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15:03:14 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:03:14 <trackbot> Date: 04 April 2012
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15:07:42 <gavinc> Sebastopol! Forever!
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15:09:18 <zwu2> zakim, code?
15:09:18 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), zwu2
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15:09:23 <MacTed> scribenick: MacTed
(Scribe set to Ted Thibodeau)
15:09:49 <MacTed> PROPOSED: accept minutes of 2012-03-28, http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2012-03-28
PROPOSED: accept minutes of 2012-03-28, http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2012-03-28 ←
15:09:57 <Zakim> + +1.650.265.aaee
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15:09:59 <MacTed> RESOLVED: accept minutes of 2012-03-28, http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2012-03-28
RESOLVED: accept minutes of 2012-03-28, http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2012-03-28 ←
15:10:11 <zwu2> zakim, +1.650.265.aaee is me
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15:10:18 <MacTed> TOPIC: Action Items
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15:10:48 <AlexHall> zakim, aaff is me
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15:13:54 <MacTed> TOPIC: Turtle LC
15:15:04 <Zakim> +EricP
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15:15:18 <Zakim> -EricP
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15:16:38 <MacTed> [[ colon-related actions taken, followup expected on list ]]
[[ colon-related actions taken, followup expected on list ]] ←
15:17:15 <MacTed> TOPIC: Turtle LC intermediate comments, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Mar/0156.html
15:17:52 <Zakim> +EricP
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15:18:23 <MacTed> Gavin: summarizing main issues... consistency and import of whether N-Triples is defined as a subset of Turtle, or Turtle is defined an extension of N-Triples
Gavin Carothers: summarizing main issues... consistency and import of whether N-Triples is defined as a subset of Turtle, or Turtle is defined an extension of N-Triples ←
15:19:58 <MacTed> Eric: initially tried to write with more distinction between Turtle being distinct from N-Triples, but it became easier to write with a blur
Eric Prud'hommeaux: initially tried to write with more distinction between Turtle and N-Triples, but it became easier to write with a blur ←
15:20:22 <MacTed> s/Turtle being distinct from N-Triples/Turtle and N-Triples/
15:21:45 <MacTed> ... priority is to make spec explicit for parsers and implementers, but also try to be nice and make something readable for authors
... priority is to make spec explicit for parsers and implementers, but also try to be nice and make something readable for authors ←
15:24:44 <MacTed> [[ discussion of which really takes priority ... ]]
[[ discussion of which really takes priority ... ]] ←
15:28:19 <MacTed> [[ discussion about title and thus doc focus -- perhaps Turtle with N-Triples as appendix/chapter? ]]
[[ discussion about title and thus doc focus -- perhaps Turtle with N-Triples as appendix/chapter? ]] ←
15:29:07 <Arnaud> q+
Arnaud Le Hors: q+ ←
15:30:15 <Guus> rnaudack
Guus Schreiber: rnaudack ←
15:30:25 <Guus> ack Arnaud
Guus Schreiber: ack Arnaud ←
15:30:27 <MacTed> Arnaud: agrees we should focus on Turtle, and introduce N-Triples at the end
Arnaud Le Hors: agrees we should focus on Turtle, and introduce N-Triples at the end ←
15:31:21 <Guus> q?
Guus Schreiber: q? ←
15:31:23 <sandro> +1 call it "simple statement", etc, and then later say n-triples == simple statements, simple terms.
Sandro Hawke: +1 call it "simple statement", etc, and then later say n-triples == simple statements, simple terms. ←
15:31:31 <zwu2> simple is good
15:31:33 <zwu2> :)
15:32:10 <MacTed> Guus: call for any other points from review needing discussion
Guus Schreiber: call for any other points from review needing discussion ←
15:32:39 <gavinc> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#sec-escapes
Gavin Carothers: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#sec-escapes ←
15:33:07 <MacTed> gavinc: "5.3 Escape Sequences" needs touch
Gavin Carothers: "5.3 Escape Sequences" needs touch ←
15:34:21 <MacTed> [[ quick discussion resolved ]]
[[ quick discussion resolved ]] ←
15:34:49 <MacTed> gavinc: no qname defined for Turtle... do we need one?
Gavin Carothers: no qname defined for Turtle... do we need one? ←
15:34:52 <Zakim> -PatH
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15:34:56 <gavinc> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#sec-identifiers
Gavin Carothers: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#sec-identifiers ←
15:35:22 <PatH> Im still on IRC, will call back on phone.
Patrick Hayes: Im still on IRC, will call back on phone. ←
15:35:58 <MacTed> ... why are we defining an XML namespace for Turtle?
... why are we defining an XML namespace for Turtle? ←
15:36:00 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:36:37 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
15:36:50 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/data/Turtle
Ivan Herman: http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/data/Turtle ←
15:37:08 <gavinc> http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/Turtle
Gavin Carothers: http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/Turtle ←
15:37:25 <MacTed> ivan: there is a URI to identify the format, http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/Turtle ... is that what we're talking about?
Ivan Herman: there is a URI to identify the format, http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/Turtle ... is that what we're talking about? ←
15:38:03 <MacTed> gavinc: submission defined format URI, as well as XML namespace and localname. still wondering why the latter are there.
Gavin Carothers: submission defined format URI, as well as XML namespace and localname. still wondering why the latter are there. ←
15:38:34 <ericP> <someDoc xmlns:ttl="http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/"><ttl:Turtle>...</ttl:Turtle></someDoc>
Eric Prud'hommeaux: <someDoc xmlns:ttl="http://www.w3.org/ns/formats/"><ttl:Turtle>...</ttl:Turtle></someDoc> ←
15:38:37 <ericP> ?
15:38:49 <gavinc> The XML (Namespace name, Local name) pair that identifies the Turtle language is:
Gavin Carothers: The XML (Namespace name, Local name) pair that identifies the Turtle language is: ←
15:38:51 <gavinc> Namespace: http://www.dajobe.org/2004/01/turtle#
Gavin Carothers: Namespace: http://www.dajobe.org/2004/01/turtle# ←
15:38:52 <gavinc> Local name: turtle
Gavin Carothers: Local name: turtle ←
15:38:54 <gavinc> The suggested namespace prefix is ttl (informative) which would make this ttl:turtle as an XML QName.
Gavin Carothers: The suggested namespace prefix is ttl (informative) which would make this ttl:turtle as an XML QName. ←
15:39:08 <MacTed> gavinc: any objections to removing XML namespace and localname?
Gavin Carothers: any objections to removing XML namespace and localname? ←
15:39:31 <MacTed> PROPOSAL: remove XML namespace and localname definitions (from 2004 draft) from current doc
PROPOSED: remove XML namespace and localname definitions (from 2004 draft) from current doc ←
15:39:36 <gavinc> +!
Gavin Carothers: +! ←
15:39:39 <Guus> +1
Guus Schreiber: +1 ←
15:39:39 <ericP> PROPOSED: remove XML namespace and localname from Turtle
PROPOSED: remove XML namespace and localname from Turtle ←
15:39:40 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
15:40:05 <MacTed> RESOLVED: remove XML namespace and localname definitions (from 2004 draft) from current doc
RESOLVED: remove XML namespace and localname definitions (from 2004 draft) from current doc ←
15:41:15 <MacTed> TOPIC: Turtle LC planning
15:42:41 <MacTed> [[ do we need another draft round? or will LC be next output? ]]
[[ do we need another draft round? or will LC be next output? ]] ←
15:43:33 <MacTed> [[ rough consensus that this round of editorial ToDo will result in LC-ready draft, but timing probably pushes back ]]
[[ rough consensus that this round of editorial ToDo will result in LC-ready draft, but timing probably pushes back ]] ←
15:45:12 <Guus> zakim, who ishere?
Guus Schreiber: zakim, who ishere? ←
15:45:12 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Guus.
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15:45:24 <Zakim> +PatH
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15:45:29 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
Zakim, who's here? ←
15:45:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see yvesr, Guus, Arnaud1 (muted), David_Wood, AZ, Sandro, Ivan, gavinc, MacTed, cgreer, zwu2 (muted), AlexHall, EricP, PatH
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15:45:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see pchampin, AlexHall, zwu2, cgreer, PatH, RRSAgent, Zakim, Guus, SteveH, yvesr, AZ, mischat, gavinc, MacTed, LeeF, ivan, Arnaud, danbri, davidwood, manu, manu1, mdmdm_,
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15:45:32 <Zakim> ... NickH, trackbot, sandro, ericP
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15:45:39 <pchampin> I'm on IRC, but I can't manage to dial in :-(
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I'm on IRC, but I can't manage to dial in :-( ←
15:45:43 <PatH> zakim, mute me
Patrick Hayes: zakim, mute me ←
15:45:43 <Zakim> PatH should now be muted
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15:45:58 <pchampin> I confirm: *I* volunteeded to review the turtle document, not Antoine...
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I confirm: *I* volunteeded to review the turtle document, not Antoine... ←
15:46:55 <ericP> pchampin, andy's review has prompted a major re-write. to save frustration, you may as well wait for word that the doc is stable
Eric Prud'hommeaux: pchampin, andy's review has prompted a major re-write. to save frustration, you may as well wait for word that the doc is stable ←
15:47:11 <pchampin> no problem
Pierre-Antoine Champin: no problem ←
15:47:50 <MacTed> TOPIC: aside, re JSON-LD...
15:48:14 <MacTed> davidwood: JSON-LD spec has made much progress, no other WG has charter to deal with it
David Wood: JSON-LD spec has made much progress, no other WG has charter to deal with it ←
15:48:17 <gavinc> +0.5 for JSON-LD in this working group
Gavin Carothers: +0.5 for JSON-LD in this working group ←
15:48:22 <MacTed> Guus: we may revisit it soon
Guus Schreiber: we may revisit it soon ←
15:48:32 <MacTed> TOPIC: Named Graphs semantics
15:49:24 <MacTed> Guus: current proposal on wiki is extra nice because it has lots of tests
Guus Schreiber: current proposal on wiki is extra nice because it has lots of tests ←
15:50:41 <Zakim> -Arnaud1
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15:51:06 <Guus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Apr/0027.html
Guus Schreiber: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Apr/0027.html ←
15:52:12 <PatH> zakim, unmute me
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15:52:55 <PatH> sandro, why do you want to impose this functionality?
Patrick Hayes: sandro, why do you want to impose this functionality? ←
15:53:19 <MacTed> sandro: most everyone agrees that Graph Names are unique within a data set. less agreement that Graph Names are unique in the world.
Sandro Hawke: most everyone agrees that Graph Names are unique within a data set. less agreement that Graph Names are unique in the world. ←
15:53:19 <MacTed> ... if you're going to say something hasGraph it can *only* have *one* graph, regardless of context
... if you're going to say something hasGraph it can *only* have *one* graph, regardless of context ←
15:54:37 <MacTed> PatH: could weaken that (or break it) and then be able to handle more cases
Patrick Hayes: could weaken that (or break it) and then be able to handle more cases ←
15:54:57 <Zakim> +Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud ←
15:57:40 <ericP> DB1 matches SELECT*{GRAPH <http://a.example/> {:Fido a :Dog}} while DB2 matches SELECT*{GRAPH <http://a.example/> {:Fido a :Dog, :Mammal}}
Eric Prud'hommeaux: DB1 matches SELECT*{GRAPH <http://a.example/> {:Fido a :Dog}} while DB2 matches SELECT*{GRAPH <http://a.example/> {:Fido a :Dog, :Mammal}} ←
15:57:41 <MacTed> sandro: strawman proposal is that when you say graphName holds { triples }, that's a closed and complete list
Sandro Hawke: strawman proposal is that when you say graphName holds { triples }, that's a closed and complete list ←
15:59:34 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:00:10 <Guus> ack ivan
Guus Schreiber: ack ivan ←
16:00:51 <MacTed> [[ discussion of strawmen ]]
[[ discussion of strawmen ]] ←
16:01:00 <Guus> PatH: could be two snapshots of the same container
Patrick Hayes: could be two snapshots of the same container [ Scribe Assist by Guus Schreiber ] ←
16:01:03 <ericP> q+ to characterize that restriction
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to characterize that restriction ←
16:01:13 <PatH> +1 to ivan
Patrick Hayes: +1 to ivan ←
16:01:16 <MacTed> q+
q+ ←
16:01:34 <MacTed> ivan: restriction proposed seems entirely unenforceable
Ivan Herman: restriction proposed seems entirely unenforceable ←
16:02:21 <MacTed> ... people *will* use same name for GRAPHs with different tripleset content
... people *will* use same name for GRAPHs with different tripleset content ←
16:02:34 <PatH> if we make the rules stiff, people will snap them.
Patrick Hayes: if we make the rules stiff, people will snap them. ←
16:02:36 <MacTed> ... (they *do* today)
... (they *do* today) ←
16:03:30 <PatH> I will say that if Ivan doesnt.
Patrick Hayes: I will say that if Ivan doesnt. ←
16:03:55 <PatH> q+
Patrick Hayes: q+ ←
16:04:12 <MacTed> sandro: they're saying "GRAPH contains" rather than "GRAPH is" "this data"
Sandro Hawke: they're saying "GRAPH contains" rather than "GRAPH is" "this data" ←
16:04:22 <ericP> what if we have two semantics?: high-semantics: make sure all names refer to the same thing, low: do what you want
Eric Prud'hommeaux: what if we have two semantics?: high-semantics: make sure all names refer to the same thing, low: do what you want ←
16:04:23 <Guus> ack ericP
Guus Schreiber: ack ericP ←
16:04:28 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to characterize that restriction
Zakim IRC Bot: ericP, you wanted to characterize that restriction ←
16:05:00 <Guus> q+ to ask about the current state of container
Guus Schreiber: q+ to ask about the current state of container ←
16:06:12 <MacTed> sandro: prefers simply high-semantics
Sandro Hawke: prefers simply high-semantics ←
16:06:28 <Guus> ack MacTed
Guus Schreiber: ack MacTed ←
16:06:29 <MacTed> MacTed: Gbox, Gsnap distinction seems lacking. this discussion seems to blur the two.
Ted Thibodeau: Gbox, Gsnap distinction seems lacking. this discussion seems to blur the two. ←
16:07:00 <PatH> good point.
Patrick Hayes: good point. ←
16:08:30 <Guus> ack PatH
Guus Schreiber: ack PatH ←
16:09:55 <MacTed> PatH: instincts are to support sandro. problem is that there are lots of "lower" semantics which are internally consistent, but don't fit into strict CoolURI picture.
Patrick Hayes: instincts are to support sandro. problem is that there are lots of "lower" semantics which are internally consistent, but don't fit into strict CoolURI picture. ←
16:11:23 <Guus> ack Guus
Guus Schreiber: ack Guus ←
16:11:23 <Zakim> Guus, you wanted to ask about the current state of container
Zakim IRC Bot: Guus, you wanted to ask about the current state of container ←
16:11:40 <cgreer> q+
Charles Greer: q+ ←
16:12:24 <sandro> pat: q?
Patrick Hayes: q? [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
16:12:26 <sandro> q?
Sandro Hawke: q? ←
16:12:48 <MacTed> Guus: question... URI of a graph container. if I get two snapshots with two different sets of triples, they should have different labels?
Guus Schreiber: question... URI of a graph container. if I get two snapshots with two different sets of triples, they should have different labels? ←
16:12:57 <MacTed> sandro: change over time is a different question...
Sandro Hawke: change over time is a different question... ←
16:13:55 <Guus> ack cgreer
Guus Schreiber: ack cgreer ←
16:13:57 <gavinc> q?
Gavin Carothers: q? ←
16:14:21 <PatH> we could always start a new WG...
Patrick Hayes: we could always start a new WG... ←
16:14:24 <ericP> q+ to say that there are use case examples which address time
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to say that there are use case examples which address time ←
16:14:27 <sandro> sandro: If we're going to talk about change-over-time, let's settle it for foaf:age *before* we try to settle it for dereference.
Sandro Hawke: If we're going to talk about change-over-time, let's settle it for foaf:age *before* we try to settle it for dereference. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
16:15:12 <MacTed> MacTed: time is just another axis of context. it's all contextual.
Ted Thibodeau: time is just another axis of context. it's all contextual. ←
16:15:39 <PatH> do i detect a certtain burnout?
Patrick Hayes: do i detect a certtain burnout? ←
16:15:48 <sandro> yes.
Sandro Hawke: yes. ←
16:15:50 <sandro> so done.
Sandro Hawke: so done. ←
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