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16:28:55 <MacTed> scribenick: AZ
(Scribe set to Antoine Zimmermann)
16:33:02 <MacTed> chair: David Wood
14:57:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-irc
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14:57:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:57:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 73394
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14:57:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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14:57:57 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
14:57:57 <trackbot> Date: 21 September 2011
14:58:24 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has now started
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14:58:31 <Zakim> +AZ
Zakim IRC Bot: +AZ ←
14:58:39 <Zakim> +bhyland
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14:58:55 <davidwood> Zakim, bhyland is me
David Wood: Zakim, bhyland is me ←
14:58:55 <Zakim> +davidwood; got it
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14:59:23 <Zakim> +gavinc
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15:00:18 <Zakim> +??P14
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15:01:08 <Zakim> +Scott_Bauer
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15:01:31 <gavinc> zakim, who is talking
Gavin Carothers: zakim, who is talking ←
15:01:31 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is talking', gavinc
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is talking', gavinc ←
15:01:46 <davidwood> Zakim, +P14 is Arnaud
David Wood: Zakim, +P14 is Arnaud ←
15:01:46 <Zakim> sorry, davidwood, I do not recognize a party named '+P14'
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15:01:57 <davidwood> Zakim, P14 is Arnaud
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15:01:57 <Zakim> sorry, davidwood, I do not recognize a party named 'P14'
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15:02:15 <gavinc> zakim, ??P14 is Arnaud
Gavin Carothers: zakim, ??P14 is Arnaud ←
15:02:15 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
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15:02:58 <Zakim> +??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←
15:03:05 <pchampin> +??P22 is me
Pierre-Antoine Champin: +??P22 is me ←
15:03:17 <Zakim> +??P25
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15:03:26 <pchampin> zakim, ??P22 is me
Pierre-Antoine Champin: zakim, ??P22 is me ←
15:03:26 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it
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15:03:29 <mischat> Zakim, ??P25 is me
Mischa Tuffield: Zakim, ??P25 is me ←
15:03:29 <Zakim> +mischat; got it
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15:03:32 <pchampin> zakim, mute me
Pierre-Antoine Champin: zakim, mute me ←
15:03:32 <Zakim> pchampin should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pchampin should now be muted ←
15:04:18 <cygri> zakim, what's the code?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, what's the code? ←
15:04:18 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), cygri
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15:04:30 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
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15:04:35 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mhausenblas is me ←
15:04:35 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
15:04:58 <AZ> topic: Admin
15:05:22 <davidwood> Proposed to accept http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-09-14
David Wood: Proposed to accept http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-09-14 ←
15:05:24 <zwu2> zakim, code?
15:05:24 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), zwu2
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), zwu2 ←
15:05:38 <AZ> PROPOSED: to accept the minutes of the 14 Sep telecon
PROPOSED: to accept the minutes of the 14 Sep telecon ←
15:05:58 <Zakim> +zwu2
Zakim IRC Bot: +zwu2 ←
15:06:03 <AZ> davidwood: The meeting was adjourned before the minutes were issued
David Wood: The meeting was adjourned before the minutes were issued ←
15:06:06 <zwu2> zakim, mute me
15:06:06 <Zakim> zwu2 should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: zwu2 should now be muted ←
15:06:10 <mischat> the minutes do state where the telecon adjourned
Mischa Tuffield: the minutes do state where the telecon adjourned ←
15:06:43 <AZ> davidwood: we'll close Guus action
David Wood: we'll close Guus action ←
15:07:32 <Zakim> +LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF ←
15:07:33 <AZ> cygri: will do my action later today
cygri: will do my action later today ←
15:08:07 <AZ> topic: FTF planning
15:08:17 <ericP> davidwood, Guus, i'm on another call. RDF WG has dibs so you can ping "ericP" in irc and I'll switch focus
Eric Prud'hommeaux: davidwood, Guus, i'm on another call. RDF WG has dibs so you can ping "ericP" in irc and I'll switch focus ←
15:08:23 <mischat> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2
Mischa Tuffield: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2 ←
15:09:24 <AZ> davidwood: talks on hotels difficult to find
David Wood: talks on hotels difficult to find ←
15:10:09 <AZ> davidwood: we'll have the F2F split in 2 places (EU and US)
David Wood: we'll have the F2F split in 2 places (EU and US) ←
15:11:02 <mischat> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2#Agenda
Mischa Tuffield: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2#Agenda ←
15:11:08 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
15:11:25 <AZ> davidwood: we have to figure out 2 things,
David Wood: we have to figure out 2 things, ←
15:11:36 <AZ> ...: manage the timezones
...: manage the timezones ←
15:12:04 <AZ> ...: when London adjourn, we use the time left in Boston to do useful things
...: when London adjourn, we use the time left in Boston to do useful things ←
15:12:25 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
15:12:32 <davidwood> ack cygri
David Wood: ack cygri ←
15:12:33 <AZ> ...: we make progress on the RDF primer
...: we make progress on the RDF primer ←
15:12:55 <AZ> cygri: I was surprised by the strong titles in the agenda
Richard Cyganiak: I was surprised by the strong titles in the agenda ←
15:13:21 <AZ> ... I wasn't expecting the two would work apart
... I wasn't expecting the two would work apart ←
15:13:37 <gavinc> Issue seems to be that far more people will be in London then in Boston :\
Gavin Carothers: Issue seems to be that far more people will be in London then in Boston :\ ←
15:13:40 <AZ> ... there are advantages in doing that, more stuff gets done,
... there are advantages in doing that, more stuff gets done, ←
15:13:51 <AZ> .... but advantages having shared time
.... but advantages having shared time ←
15:14:07 <AZ> ... we should maximise shared time
... we should maximise shared time ←
15:14:36 <pchampin> +1 to try to align schedule as much as possible
Pierre-Antoine Champin: +1 to try to align schedule as much as possible ←
15:14:37 <AZ> davidwood: I hope we can get in MIT earlier
David Wood: I hope we can get in MIT earlier ←
15:14:47 <mischat> cygri: i agree too, but iirc yvesr_ and NickH mentioned that there was end time to when we had to get out of their buildings
Richard Cyganiak: i agree too, but iirc yvesr_ and NickH mentioned that there was end time to when we had to get out of their buildings [ Scribe Assist by Mischa Tuffield ] ←
15:14:52 <gavinc> there are 5 solid confirmations in Boston, and 11 in London
Gavin Carothers: there are 5 solid confirmations in Boston, and 11 in London ←
15:15:06 <AZ> ... and we can't be in BBC late
... and we can't be in BBC late ←
15:15:14 <LeeF> I'm sorry that my phone has decided to act up, but I wanted to say that I'm not sure that a group editing of the primer will be a good way to edit the primer. I think we might be more successful identifying goals for the updated primer and then enlisting 1 or 2 editors to do the actual updating.
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm sorry that my phone has decided to act up, but I wanted to say that I'm not sure that a group editing of the primer will be a good way to edit the primer. I think we might be more successful identifying goals for the updated primer and then enlisting 1 or 2 editors to do the actual updating. ←
15:15:31 <AZ> ... the current agenda is (sort of) a worst case scenario
... the current agenda is (sort of) a worst case scenario ←
15:15:58 <AZ> cygri: currently, we'll adjourn in London at 5pm
Richard Cyganiak: currently, we'll adjourn in London at 5pm ←
15:16:04 <Zakim> +LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF ←
15:16:04 <mischat> cygri++
Mischa Tuffield: cygri++ ←
15:16:13 <AZ> ... we could shift everything 2 hours backward
... we could shift everything 2 hours backward ←
15:16:45 <davidwood> Yves Raimond
David Wood: Yves Raimond ←
15:16:47 <davidwood> (BBC)
David Wood: (BBC) ←
15:17:01 <mischat> davidwood: to email yvesr_ about how late we can stay at the BBC's london location
David Wood: to email yvesr_ about how late we can stay at the BBC's london location [ Scribe Assist by Mischa Tuffield ] ←
15:17:13 <AZ> ACTION: david to mail Yves if we can get to BBC later
ACTION: david to mail Yves if we can get to BBC later ←
15:17:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Mail Yves if we can get to BBC later [on David Wood - due 2011-09-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-90 - Mail Yves if we can get to BBC later [on David Wood - due 2011-09-28]. ←
15:17:20 <mischat> davidwood, LeeF had a point above
Mischa Tuffield: davidwood, LeeF had a point above ←
15:17:23 <LeeF> q+
Lee Feigenbaum: q+ ←
15:17:30 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
15:17:31 <davidwood> ack LeeF
David Wood: ack LeeF ←
15:18:20 <AZ> LeeF: we should get consensus on what to put in Primer then assign writing to 2 people
Lee Feigenbaum: we should get consensus on what to put in Primer then assign writing to 2 people ←
15:18:42 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
15:18:52 <mischat> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Editors
Mischa Tuffield: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Editors ←
15:18:57 <mischat> editors doc ^^
Mischa Tuffield: editors doc ^^ ←
15:19:20 <Zakim> +LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF ←
15:19:22 <AZ> davidwood: with neither editors of Primer on the call we can't really decide how to proceed wrt Primer
David Wood: with neither editors of Primer on the call we can't really decide how to proceed wrt Primer ←
15:19:49 <LeeF> Great! (i was just confused by what it said in the agenda)
Lee Feigenbaum: Great! (i was just confused by what it said in the agenda) ←
15:19:54 <davidwood> ack cygri
David Wood: ack cygri ←
15:19:58 <AZ> ...: we will just suggest updates for Primer at the Boston meeting
...: we will just suggest updates for Primer at the Boston meeting ←
15:20:24 <AZ> cygri: we should spend time on the documents the WG has to update and produce
Richard Cyganiak: we should spend time on the documents the WG has to update and produce ←
15:20:54 <davidwood> Changed agenda wording for the RDF Primer task
David Wood: Changed agenda wording for the RDF Primer task ←
15:21:01 <AZ> ... a number of documents have not yet been touch in terms of editing
... a number of documents have not yet been touch in terms of editing ←
15:21:16 <LeeF> I will attend at MIT - I didn't realize I wasn't already on the list. Sorry!
Lee Feigenbaum: I will attend at MIT - I didn't realize I wasn't already on the list. Sorry! ←
15:21:40 <AZ> ... it's not clear what's going to happen wrt the JSON document
... it's not clear what's going to happen wrt the JSON document ←
15:21:58 <AZ> ... we should discuss the JSON doc at the meeting
... we should discuss the JSON doc at the meeting ←
15:22:14 <AZ> davidwood: there should be someone reviewing the JSON doc
David Wood: there should be someone reviewing the JSON doc ←
15:22:24 <AZ> ... and present the review to the group on the ML
... and present the review to the group on the ML ←
15:23:03 <AZ> cygri: there was a decision at the F2F1 that we have 2 documents
Richard Cyganiak: there was a decision at the F2F1 that we have 2 documents ←
15:23:21 <AZ> ... is there still this consensus?
... is there still this consensus? ←
15:23:29 <mischat> zakim, who is on the call?
Mischa Tuffield: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:23:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see AZ, davidwood, gavinc, Arnaud, Scott_Bauer, pchampin (muted), mischat, cygri, zwu2 (muted), LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AZ, davidwood, gavinc, Arnaud, Scott_Bauer, pchampin (muted), mischat, cygri, zwu2 (muted), LeeF ←
15:23:41 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
15:23:49 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
15:23:49 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←
15:23:51 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:23:51 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
15:24:41 <AZ> davidwood: we have 2 actions to do for the F2F:
David Wood: we have 2 actions to do for the F2F: ←
15:24:54 <AZ> ... 1. whether BC can be accessible late and;
... 1. whether BBC can be accessible late and; ←
15:25:03 <AZ> ... 2. review JSON LD
... 2. review JSON LD ←
15:25:04 <MacTed> s/BC/BBC/
15:25:40 <davidwood> TO DO for the Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2#Agenda
David Wood: TO DO for the Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2#Agenda ←
15:25:45 <mischat> i was wrong about a json-ld review, I was thinking of all the json-ld related chat on the mailing list that is all
Mischa Tuffield: i was wrong about a json-ld review, I was thinking of all the json-ld related chat on the mailing list that is all ←
15:26:05 <AZ> davidwood: I'll update the agenda accordingly
David Wood: I'll update the agenda accordingly ←
15:26:20 <AZ> topic: Liaison with Provenance WG
15:26:32 <AZ> davidwood: there was a telecon last Thursday
David Wood: there was a telecon last Thursday ←
15:26:47 <AZ> ... there is a mailing list for RDF / Prov liaison
... there is a mailing list for RDF / Prov liaison ←
15:27:00 <AZ> public-rdf-prov@lists.w3.org
public-rdf-prov@lists.w3.org ←
15:27:10 <mischat> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-prov/
Mischa Tuffield: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-prov/ ←
15:27:22 <AZ> ... anyone interested in Graph TF should take a look and join the discussions
... anyone interested in Graph TF should take a look and join the discussions ←
15:27:26 <mischat> and the minutes to the meeting last week http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-09-15
Mischa Tuffield: and the minutes to the meeting last week http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-09-15 ←
15:28:06 <AZ> ... the Prov WG make good progress but it's not clear exactly there use cases
... the Prov WG make good progress but it's not clear exactly there use cases ←
15:28:30 <davidwood> Discussed http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs-UC
David Wood: Discussed http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs-UC ←
15:28:59 <AZ> ... we (RDF WG) have a provenance use case
... we (RDF WG) have provenance use cases ←
15:29:01 <mischat> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs-UC#Provenance_Use_Cases
Mischa Tuffield: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs-UC#Provenance_Use_Cases ←
15:29:12 <AZ> s/a provenance use case/provenance use cases/
15:29:38 <AZ> ... we need an agreement on the g-* terminology
... we need an agreement on the g-* terminology ←
15:29:48 <mischat> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Graph_Terminology
Mischa Tuffield: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Graph_Terminology ←
15:29:53 <AZ> ... it must be fixed after the F2F2
... it must be fixed after the F2F2 ←
15:29:55 <mischat> g-box
Mischa Tuffield: g-box ←
15:30:35 <AZ> ... the Prov WG is waiting for our final terminology
... the Prov WG is waiting for our final terminology ←
15:30:41 <Arnaud> got it, thanks
Arnaud Le Hors: got it, thanks ←
15:30:42 <AZ> ... and they need their final use cases
... and they need their final use cases ←
15:31:04 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
15:31:45 <AZ> topic: Status RDF Dataset proposal
15:32:31 <AZ> davidwood: Richard, can you answer Sandro's criticism wrt the Dataset proposal?
David Wood: Richard, can you answer Sandro's criticism wrt the Dataset proposal? ←
15:33:05 <davidwood> Sandro's criticism: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-09-14#RDF_Dataset_proposal
David Wood: Sandro's criticism: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-09-14#RDF_Dataset_proposal ←
15:33:06 <AZ> ... in the minutes of the last meeting
... in the minutes of the last meeting ←
15:33:51 <AZ> cygri: the proposal is not based on use cases, but based on SPARQL specs
Richard Cyganiak: the proposal is not based on use cases, but based on SPARQL specs ←
15:34:20 <AZ> ... these concepts are already implemented in SPARQL graph stores
... these concepts are already implemented in SPARQL graph stores ←
15:34:31 <AZ> ... this addresses a lot of use cases
... this addresses a lot of use cases ←
15:34:50 <AZ> ... but it's worth looking at it in more details
... but it's worth looking at it in more details ←
15:35:15 <AZ> ... we have to define what cannot be addressed by the proposal
... we have to define what cannot be addressed by the proposal ←
15:35:52 <AZ> ... People who think it is not sufficient should point out which use cases are not addressed
... People who think it is not sufficient should point out which use cases are not addressed ←
15:37:15 <pchampin> q+ to ask a question to Richard about the dataset proposal
Pierre-Antoine Champin: q+ to ask a question to Richard about the dataset proposal ←
15:37:18 <AZ> ... I still think that the proposal is enough for all use cases
... I still think that the proposal is enough for all use cases ←
15:38:21 <AZ> davidwood: we are not sure the prov use case we have are use cases for the Prov WG (?)
David Wood: we are not sure the prov use case we have are use cases for the Prov WG (?) ←
15:38:23 <mischat> q?
Mischa Tuffield: q? ←
15:39:19 <AZ> ... we need Sandro to discuss his criticism and he's not here
... we need Sandro to discuss his criticism and he's not here ←
15:39:47 <pchampin> +1 to Richard
Pierre-Antoine Champin: +1 to Richard ←
15:39:51 <AZ> cygri: versioning is related somehow to provenance too
Richard Cyganiak: versioning is related somehow to provenance too ←
15:39:54 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
15:39:57 <pchampin> ack me
Pierre-Antoine Champin: ack me ←
15:39:59 <Zakim> pchampin, you wanted to ask a question to Richard about the dataset proposal
Zakim IRC Bot: pchampin, you wanted to ask a question to Richard about the dataset proposal ←
15:40:02 <davidwood> ack pchampin
David Wood: ack pchampin ←
15:40:05 <cygri> ACTION: cygri to respond to Sandro's trust use case
ACTION: cygri to respond to Sandro's trust use case ←
15:40:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Respond to Sandro's trust use case [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2011-09-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-91 - Respond to Sandro's trust use case [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2011-09-28]. ←
15:40:45 <AZ> Pierre-Antoine: in the dataset proposal, things are very specific to queries
Pierre-Antoine Champin: in the dataset proposal, things are very specific to queries ←
15:40:54 <AZ> ... eg, default graph
... eg, default graph ←
15:41:25 <AZ> ... shouldn't we clear the proposal from this focus (which comes from SPARQL)
... shouldn't we clear the proposal from this focus (which comes from SPARQL) ←
15:41:47 <AZ> cygri: true, default graph comes from SPARQL and may not be necessary
Richard Cyganiak: true, default graph comes from SPARQL and may not be necessary ←
15:42:25 <AZ> ... it's still open to discussion whether to keep it
... it's still open to discussion whether to keep it ←
15:42:47 <AZ> ... but it's good to take what SPARQL has and make as little changes as possible
... but it's good to take what SPARQL has and make as little changes as possible ←
15:43:42 <AZ> ... if we diverge from SPARQL, we should have a good explanation for it
... if we diverge from SPARQL, we should have a good explanation for it ←
15:44:38 <AZ> pchampin: I agree but some things in the Dataset proposal seem strange from RDF pov
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I agree but some things in the Dataset proposal seem strange from RDF pov ←
15:45:04 <gavinc> The strange thing to me is that there can't be more then one ;)
Gavin Carothers: The strange thing to me is that there can't be more then one ;) ←
15:45:16 <AZ> cygri: pchampin, if something seems weird, please find a cocnrete example to explain the reason
Richard Cyganiak: pchampin, if something seems weird, please find a cocnrete example to explain the reason ←
15:45:21 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
15:45:22 <AZ> pchampin: I'll do that
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I'll do that ←
15:46:15 <AZ> davidwood: we may not be able to address the tagged literals issue
David Wood: we may not be able to address the tagged literals issue ←
15:46:27 <davidwood> <mailto:public-rdf-prov@w3.org>
David Wood: <mailto:public-rdf-prov@w3.org> ←
15:46:33 <AZ> ... everyone, please discuss the F2F agenda,
... everyone, please discuss the F2F agenda, ←
15:46:36 <davidwood> ^^ Please join if you are interested in graphs
David Wood: ^^ Please join if you are interested in graphs ←
15:46:45 <MacTed> what's the link/address by which to join?
Ted Thibodeau: what's the link/address by which to join? ←
15:47:00 <AZ> ... and join the Prov / RDF ML if interested in graphs
... and join the Prov / RDF ML if interested in graphs ←
15:47:06 <gavinc> <public-rdf-prov-request@w3.org> SUBSCRIBE
Gavin Carothers: <public-rdf-prov-request@w3.org> SUBSCRIBE ←
15:47:07 <mischat> public-rdf-prov-request@w3.org Subject: subscribe
Mischa Tuffield: public-rdf-prov-request@w3.org Subject: subscribe ←
15:47:18 <gavinc> NOT the mailing list address
Gavin Carothers: NOT the mailing list address ←
15:47:19 <zwu2> q+
15:47:27 <MacTed> -request is key! we don't want 17 "subscribe" messages going to the list...
Ted Thibodeau: -request is key! we don't want 17 "subscribe" messages going to the list... ←
15:47:29 <cygri> q+ to mention R2RML last call
Richard Cyganiak: q+ to mention R2RML last call ←
15:47:32 <zwu2> zakim, unmute me
15:47:32 <Zakim> zwu2 should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: zwu2 should no longer be muted ←
15:47:44 <davidwood> ack zwu
David Wood: ack zwu ←
15:48:18 <MacTed> <mailto:public-rdf-prov-request@w3.org?subject=SUBSCRIBE>
Ted Thibodeau: <mailto:public-rdf-prov-request@w3.org?subject=SUBSCRIBE> ←
15:48:20 <MacTed> that will work
Ted Thibodeau: that will work ←
15:48:33 <AZ> zwu2: is it possible to change the schedule a bit to have more overlapping time
Zhe Wu: is it possible to change the schedule a bit to have more overlapping time ←
15:48:40 <davidwood> ack cygri
David Wood: ack cygri ←
15:48:40 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to mention R2RML last call
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, you wanted to mention R2RML last call ←
15:48:53 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/TR/r2rml/
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/TR/r2rml/ ←
15:48:57 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdb-direct-mapping/
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdb-direct-mapping/ ←
15:49:01 <AZ> cygri: RDB2RDF has turned their docs to last call
Richard Cyganiak: RDB2RDF has turned their docs to last call ←
15:49:44 <AZ> ... we invite comments, especially open questions,
... we invite comments, especially open questions, ←
15:50:10 <AZ> ... 1. whether the mapping language require a specific syntax or should it be just a vocabulary
... 1. whether the mapping language require a specific syntax or should it be just a vocabulary ←
15:50:51 <AZ> ... 2. how to get to specific parts of URIs
... 2. how to get to specific parts of URIs ←
15:51:55 <AZ> ... There are also issues related to Turtle etc wrt punctuation
... There are also issues related to Turtle etc wrt punctuation ←
15:52:19 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
15:52:43 <AZ> davidwood: we'll adjourn (early due to lack of participants)
David Wood: we'll adjourn (early due to lack of participants) ←
15:53:34 <AZ> davidwood: cygri, please discuss Sandro's criticism and bring this to the list
David Wood: cygri, please discuss Sandro's criticism and bring this to the list ←
15:54:05 <gavinc> <People/ID-7> rdf:type <People> .
Gavin Carothers: <People/ID-7> rdf:type <People> . ←
15:55:52 <Zakim> -zwu2
Zakim IRC Bot: -zwu2 ←
15:55:54 <Zakim> -MacTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -MacTed ←
15:55:55 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
15:55:55 <Zakim> -gavinc
Zakim IRC Bot: -gavinc ←
15:55:57 <Zakim> -davidwood
Zakim IRC Bot: -davidwood ←
15:55:57 <Zakim> -mischat
Zakim IRC Bot: -mischat ←
15:55:59 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
15:56:04 <pchampin> bye all
Pierre-Antoine Champin: bye all ←
15:56:05 <Zakim> -Scott_Bauer
Zakim IRC Bot: -Scott_Bauer ←
15:56:20 <davidwood> RRSAgent, make minutes
David Wood: RRSAgent, make minutes ←
15:56:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html davidwood
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html davidwood ←
15:56:24 <mischat> :)
Mischa Tuffield: :) ←
15:56:28 <Zakim> -pchampin
Zakim IRC Bot: -pchampin ←
15:56:29 <Zakim> -AZ
Zakim IRC Bot: -AZ ←
15:57:05 <davidwood> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
David Wood: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible ←
15:57:17 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
15:57:18 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has ended ←
15:57:20 <Zakim> Attendees were AZ, davidwood, gavinc, Scott_Bauer, Arnaud, pchampin, mischat, cygri, zwu2, LeeF, MacTed
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were AZ, davidwood, gavinc, Scott_Bauer, Arnaud, pchampin, mischat, cygri, zwu2, LeeF, MacTed ←
16:07:16 <AZ> argh, the scribe was not specified
(No events recorded for 9 minutes)
argh, the scribe was not specified ←
16:07:49 <AZ> the generated minutes are not ok
the generated minutes are not ok ←
16:09:23 <mischat> should do the trick
Mischa Tuffield: should do the trick ←
16:18:26 <mischat> can you not go in and edit the editable logs and add `scribe: XXXX and scribenick: XXX`
(No events recorded for 9 minutes)
Mischa Tuffield: can you not go in and edit the editable logs and add `scribe: XXXX and scribenick: XXX` ←
16:18:29 <mischat> AZ: ?
Antoine Zimmermann: ? [ Scribe Assist by Mischa Tuffield ] ←
16:28:55 <MacTed> scribenick: AZ
16:29:01 <MacTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
(No events recorded for 10 minutes)
Ted Thibodeau: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
16:29:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html MacTed
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html MacTed ←
16:29:56 <MacTed> that may be enough...
Ted Thibodeau: that may be enough... ←
16:31:02 <MacTed> chair: davidwood
16:31:05 <MacTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
Ted Thibodeau: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
16:31:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html MacTed
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html MacTed ←
16:31:47 <MacTed> RRSAgent, help
Ted Thibodeau: RRSAgent, help ←
16:32:53 <gavinc> RRSAgent isn't what we use for Minutes BTW
Gavin Carothers: RRSAgent isn't what we use for Minutes BTW ←
16:33:02 <MacTed> chair: David Wood
16:33:12 <MacTed> bah.
Ted Thibodeau: bah. ←
16:33:49 <MacTed> competing systems that do the same thing... I loves them! :-/
Ted Thibodeau: competing systems that do the same thing... I loves them! :-/ ←
16:37:16 <MacTed> trackbot, end meeting
Ted Thibodeau: trackbot, end meeting ←
16:37:16 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
16:37:16 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is ←
16:37:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
16:37:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot ←
16:37:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
16:37:18 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-actions.rdf : ←
16:37:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: david to mail Yves if we can get to BBC later [1]
ACTION: david to mail Yves if we can get to BBC later [1] ←
16:37:18 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-irc#T15-17-13
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-irc#T15-17-13 ←
16:37:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cygri to respond to Sandro's trust use case [2]
ACTION: cygri to respond to Sandro's trust use case [2] ←
16:37:18 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-irc#T15-40-05
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/21-rdf-wg-irc#T15-40-05 ←
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