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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 21 April 2014

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Alexandre Bertails, Arnaud Le Hors, Ashok Malhotra, Eric Prud'hommeaux, John Arwe, Pierre-Antoine Champin, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau
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14:00:20 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/04/21-ldp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/04/21-ldp-irc

14:00:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public

14:00:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP

14:00:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start now

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start now

14:00:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:00:25 <trackbot> Date: 21 April 2014
14:00:33 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

14:00:40 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

14:01:09 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok_Malhotra

14:01:21 <Zakim> +Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud

14:01:35 <Zakim> +[IBM]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM]

14:01:39 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me

Steve Speicher: Zakim, [IBM] is me

14:01:39 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it

14:01:52 <Zakim> +JohnArwe

Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe

14:04:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:04:22 <betehess> Zakim, IPcaller is betehess

Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, IPcaller is betehess

14:04:22 <Zakim> +betehess; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +betehess; got it

14:04:53 <betehess> Zakim, mute betehess

Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, mute betehess

14:04:53 <Zakim> betehess should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: betehess should now be muted

14:08:47 <betehess> Zakim, who is here?

Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, who is here?

14:08:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, betehess (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, betehess (muted)

14:08:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see bblfish, betehess, Zakim, RRSAgent, Ashok, pchampin, JohnArwe, TallTed, SteveS, Arnaud, sandro, trackbot, Yves, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bblfish, betehess, Zakim, RRSAgent, Ashok, pchampin, JohnArwe, TallTed, SteveS, Arnaud, sandro, trackbot, Yves, ericP

14:21:30 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

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Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:21:36 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:21:36 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it

14:21:41 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:21:41 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted

14:31:26 <Zakim> +ericP

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Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP

14:38:17 <betehess> live version of the draft at http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/index.html

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Alexandre Bertails: live version of the draft at http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/index.html

14:38:17 <betehess> it already includes full example, concrete syntax, abstract data model and operational semantics

Alexandre Bertails: it already includes full example, concrete syntax, abstract data model and operational semantics

14:38:17 <betehess> the spec lives at https://github.com/ld-specs/ld-patch/ , will be moved under w3c organization soon

Alexandre Bertails: the spec lives at https://github.com/ld-specs/ld-patch/ , will be moved under w3c organization soon

14:39:11 <betehess> Zakim, unmute me

Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, unmute me

14:39:12 <Zakim> betehess should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: betehess should no longer be muted

14:47:43 <Ashok> John, please send mail about your concern

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Ashok Malhotra: John, please send mail about your concern

14:49:19 <TallTed> probably better SHOULD than MUST ...

Ted Thibodeau: probably better SHOULD than MUST ...

14:49:19 <TallTed> typical wish is likely to be all Membership Triples grouped together and all Containment Triples grouped together -- which doesn't mix well with putting all triples with same object on same page

Ted Thibodeau: typical wish is likely to be all Membership Triples grouped together and all Containment Triples grouped together -- which doesn't mix well with putting all triples with same object on same page

14:49:19 <TallTed> we do have the Prefer header to request *only* Membership or *only* Containment, but server can ignore that

Ted Thibodeau: we do have the Prefer header to request *only* Membership or *only* Containment, but server can ignore that

14:51:22 <betehess> maybe we are missing a more general notion of grouping triples according to some criteria

Alexandre Bertails: maybe we are missing a more general notion of grouping triples according to some criteria

14:54:43 <SteveS> paged containers (as writen today) have members sorted, so this “only on one page” doesn’t really change much…once they client sees the next member resource triple, it can assume it has received all the member/contain triples for prior member resource

Steve Speicher: paged containers (as writen today) have members sorted, so this “only on one page” doesn’t really change much…once they client sees the next member resource triple, it can assume it has received all the member/contain triples for prior member resource

15:00:45 <betehess> bye guys, got to go

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Alexandre Bertails: bye guys, got to go

15:00:51 <Zakim> -betehess

Zakim IRC Bot: -betehess

15:02:41 <SteveS> I did -0.1 it, so I really wasn’t supportive

Steve Speicher: I did -0.1 it, so I really wasn’t supportive

15:02:59 <Zakim> -JohnArwe

Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe

15:03:18 <Zakim> -SteveS

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS

15:03:53 <Zakim> -Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud

15:09:08 <Zakim> -ericP

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Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP

15:09:09 <Zakim> -TallTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed

15:09:24 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra

15:09:27 <Zakim> -pchampin

Zakim IRC Bot: -pchampin

15:09:28 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

15:09:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Ashok_Malhotra, pchampin, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, betehess, TallTed, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Ashok_Malhotra, pchampin, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, betehess, TallTed, ericP



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