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14:00:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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14:00:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
14:00:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start now
14:00:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:00:25 <trackbot> Date: 21 April 2014
14:00:33 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started
14:00:40 <Zakim> +??P0
14:01:09 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
14:01:21 <Zakim> +Arnaud
14:01:35 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:01:39 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me
14:01:39 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
14:01:52 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
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14:04:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:04:22 <betehess> Zakim, IPcaller is betehess
14:04:22 <Zakim> +betehess; got it
14:04:53 <betehess> Zakim, mute betehess
14:04:53 <Zakim> betehess should now be muted
14:08:47 <betehess> Zakim, who is here?
14:08:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, betehess (muted)
14:08:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see bblfish, betehess, Zakim, RRSAgent, Ashok, pchampin, JohnArwe, TallTed, SteveS, Arnaud, sandro, trackbot, Yves, ericP
14:21:30 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:21:36 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:21:36 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:21:41 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:21:41 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:31:26 <Zakim> +ericP
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14:38:17 <betehess> live version of the draft at http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/index.html
14:38:17 <betehess> it already includes full example, concrete syntax, abstract data model and operational semantics
14:38:17 <betehess> the spec lives at https://github.com/ld-specs/ld-patch/ , will be moved under w3c organization soon
14:39:11 <betehess> Zakim, unmute me
14:39:12 <Zakim> betehess should no longer be muted
14:47:43 <Ashok> John, please send mail about your concern
14:49:19 <TallTed> probably better SHOULD than MUST ...
14:49:19 <TallTed> typical wish is likely to be all Membership Triples grouped together and all Containment Triples grouped together -- which doesn't mix well with putting all triples with same object on same page
14:49:19 <TallTed> we do have the Prefer header to request *only* Membership or *only* Containment, but server can ignore that
14:51:22 <betehess> maybe we are missing a more general notion of grouping triples according to some criteria
14:54:43 <SteveS> paged containers (as writen today) have members sorted, so this “only on one page” doesn’t really change much…once they client sees the next member resource triple, it can assume it has received all the member/contain triples for prior member resource
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15:00:45 <betehess> bye guys, got to go
15:00:51 <Zakim> -betehess
15:02:41 <SteveS> I did -0.1 it, so I really wasn’t supportive
15:02:59 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
15:03:18 <Zakim> -SteveS
15:03:53 <Zakim> -Arnaud
15:09:08 <Zakim> -ericP
15:09:09 <Zakim> -TallTed
15:09:24 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
15:09:27 <Zakim> -pchampin
15:09:28 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
15:09:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Ashok_Malhotra, pchampin, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, betehess, TallTed, ericP
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