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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 05 August 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.08.05
Seen
Arnaud Le Hors, Ashok Malhotra, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Miel Vander Sande, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya, Raúl García Castro, Sandro Hawke, Serena Villata, Steve Battle, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau
Regrets
Sandro Hawke, Steve Battle
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Raúl García Castro
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Minutes of July 22 approved link
Topics
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13:53:36 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

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13:53:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes

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13:53:37 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:53:37 <trackbot> Date: 05 August 2013
14:00:06 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

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14:00:13 <Zakim> +Arnaud

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14:01:15 <Zakim> +??P3

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14:01:27 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

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14:01:32 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P3 is me

Raúl García Castro: zakim, ??P3 is me

14:01:32 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it

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14:03:03 <Zakim> +Steve_Speicher

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14:03:43 <Zakim> +??P7

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14:04:23 <SteveS> Zakim, Steve_Speicher is me

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14:04:23 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

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14:04:27 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?

Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:04:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, rgarcia, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, ??P7

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, rgarcia, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, ??P7

14:04:34 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P7 is me

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, ??P7 is me

14:04:34 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it

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14:06:22 <mielvds> Great, phones are dead here; won't be able to tune in

Miel Vander Sande: Great, phones are dead here; won't be able to tune in

14:06:49 <rgarcia> scribenick: rgarcia

(Scribe set to Raúl García Castro)

<rgarcia> chair: Arnaud
<rgarcia> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.08.05
<rgarcia> regrets: sandro, steveb
<rgarcia> topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:07:03 <rgarcia> subtopic: Minutes of last meeting

1.1. Minutes of last meeting

14:07:39 <Zakim> +??P13

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14:07:56 <Zakim> -??P13

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14:08:18 <rgarcia> Resolved: Minutes of July 22 approved

RESOLVED: Minutes of July 22 approved

<rgarcia> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2013-07-22

http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2013-07-22

14:08:21 <Zakim> +??P13

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14:08:28 <rgarcia> subtopic: F2F4

1.2. F2F4

14:08:31 <svillata> Zakim, ??P13 is me

Serena Villata: Zakim, ??P13 is me

14:08:31 <Zakim> +svillata; got it

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14:08:40 <rgarcia> Arnaud: Please, indicate your expected attendance

Arnaud Le Hors: Please, indicate your expected attendance

14:08:45 <Zakim> + +329331aaaa

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14:08:58 <rgarcia> topic: Tracking of actions and issues

2. Tracking of actions and issues

14:09:03 <mielvds> Zakim, +329331aaaa is me

Miel Vander Sande: Zakim, +329331aaaa is me

14:09:03 <Zakim> +mielvds; got it

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14:09:34 <rgarcia> Arnaud: We can close action 91, it has been done

Arnaud Le Hors: We can close ACTION-91, it has been done

14:10:34 <rgarcia> mielvds: I completed ACTION-82 (the comparison with GSP)

Miel Vander Sande: I completed ACTION-82 (the comparison with GSP)

14:10:42 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:10:49 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:10:49 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

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14:10:50 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:10:50 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

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14:11:03 <rgarcia> Arnaud: the document looks great

Arnaud Le Hors: the document looks great

14:11:25 <rgarcia> SteveS: What do we do with the text in the wiki?

Steve Speicher: What do we do with the text in the wiki?

14:11:47 <rgarcia> Arnaud: We need to move the document from google docs to W3C land

Arnaud Le Hors: We need to move the document from google docs to W3C land

14:12:17 <rgarcia> mielvds: I can cut and paste into the wiki

Miel Vander Sande: I can cut and paste into the wiki

14:12:19 <TallTed> action-82?

Ted Thibodeau: ACTION-82?

14:12:19 <trackbot> ACTION-82 -- Miel Vander Sande to take another look at how LDP and GSP compare and report back -- due 2013-06-27 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-82 -- Miel Vander Sande to take another look at how LDP and GSP compare and report back -- due 2013-06-27 -- OPEN

14:12:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/82

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/82

14:12:52 <Ashok> q+

Ashok Malhotra: q+

14:13:05 <Arnaud> ack ashok

Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok

14:13:07 <rgarcia> Arnaud: it could also be an appendix in the spec. From now, we link to it from the WG web page

Arnaud Le Hors: it could also be an appendix in the spec. From now, we link to it from the WG web page

14:13:23 <rgarcia> Ashok: Is a wiki entry formal enough?

Ashok Malhotra: Is a wiki entry formal enough?

14:15:26 <rgarcia> Arnaud: the document is informational and probably no specification will reference it

Arnaud Le Hors: the document is informational and probably no specification will reference it

14:15:44 <rgarcia> … we can discuss later whether to promote it

… we can discuss later whether to promote it

14:16:29 <Zakim> -rgarcia

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14:16:34 <Zakim> +EricP

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14:17:01 <Zakim> +??P3

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14:17:11 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P3 is me

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14:17:11 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it

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14:17:46 <rgarcia> Arnaud: ACTION-53 should be closed

Arnaud Le Hors: ACTION-53 should be closed

14:18:08 <rgarcia> Arnaud: What do we do with Richard's actions?

Arnaud Le Hors: What do we do with Richard's actions?

14:18:44 <rgarcia> SteveS: ACTION-49 is now owned by Cody

Steve Speicher: ACTION-49 is now owned by Cody

14:19:24 <rgarcia> … and maybe ACTION-46 is not valid anymore

… and maybe ACTION-46 is not valid anymore

14:19:33 <rgarcia> Arnaud: Let's put that on Roger

Arnaud Le Hors: Let's put that on Roger

<rgarcia> topic: Status

3. Status

14:20:20 <rgarcia> subtopic: LDP Last Call

3.1. LDP Last Call

14:21:01 <rgarcia> Arnaud: we already received a first comment

Arnaud Le Hors: we already received a first comment

14:22:17 <rgarcia> … the editors will manage the comments received and make sure they are tracked and solved in an orderly fashion

… the editors will manage the comments received and make sure they are tracked and solved in an orderly fashion

14:22:51 <rgarcia> … when issues are raised, the editors will bring them to the attention of the WG

… when issues are raised, the editors will bring them to the attention of the WG

14:23:28 <rgarcia> … and the WG answers them (in different ways)

… and the WG answers them (in different ways)

14:23:42 <rgarcia> subtopic: UC&R

3.2. UC&R

14:24:11 <rgarcia> Arnaud: we should publish a new version as soon as possible

Arnaud Le Hors: we should publish a new version as soon as possible

14:24:24 <rgarcia> subtopic: Test Suites

3.3. Test Suites

14:25:25 <svillata> rgarcia: I will update the document

Raúl García Castro: I will update the document [ Scribe Assist by Serena Villata ]

14:25:49 <svillata> ... I cover the absolute requirements in the spec

Serena Villata: ... I cover the absolute requirements in the spec

14:26:12 <svillata> ... maybe I will need more help to cover further cases

Serena Villata: ... maybe I will need more help to cover further cases

14:28:09 <svillata> ... the primer provides input and output, we could refer to it

Serena Villata: ... the primer provides input and output, we could refer to it

14:29:10 <rgarcia> subtopic: Access control note

3.4. Access control note

14:29:49 <rgarcia> Ashok: I haven't updated it, don't think that an update is required but I can work on it

Ashok Malhotra: I haven't updated it, don't think that an update is required but I can work on it

14:29:58 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:29:58 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted

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14:30:15 <rgarcia> Arnaud: Miguel and Ted have to review the document, so don't do anything before getting the reviews

Arnaud Le Hors: Miguel and Ted have to review the document, so don't do anything before getting the reviews

14:30:34 <rgarcia> TallTed: I have made a partial pass over the document

Ted Thibodeau: I have made a partial pass over the document

14:31:14 <rgarcia> … a lot of emptiness must be filled in (e.g., tables)

… a lot of emptiness must be filled in (e.g., tables)

14:31:51 <rgarcia> Arnaud: Ashok and TallTed can work offline on it

Arnaud Le Hors: Ashok and TallTed can work offline on it

14:32:15 <rgarcia> subtopic: Best practices and guidelines

3.5. Best practices and guidelines

14:32:15 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

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14:32:18 <Zakim> -rgarcia

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14:32:38 <Zakim> +??P3

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14:32:44 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P3 is me

zakim, ??P3 is me

14:32:44 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it

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14:32:48 <nmihindu> Yes, most of the stuff in the wiki are now edited, regarding the best practices guide

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Yes, most of the stuff in the wiki are now edited, regarding the best practices guide

14:33:04 <rgarcia> Arnaud: the work is in progress

Arnaud Le Hors: the work is in progress

14:33:10 <nmihindu> one thing we need to discuss is that do we need any contributions for that

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: one thing we need to discuss is that do we need any contributions for that

14:33:23 <nmihindu> like we did for UCR document

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: like we did for UCR document

<rgarcia> subtopic: IETF Accept-Post draft

3.6. IETF Accept-Post draft

14:33:46 <rgarcia> SteveS: The publication of the IETF draft is under review

Steve Speicher: The publication of the IETF draft is under review

14:34:26 <rgarcia> Arnaud: support the spec in IETF so it progresses

Arnaud Le Hors: support the spec in IETF so it progresses

14:34:58 <rgarcia> … but we cannot do anything else

… but we cannot do anything else

14:35:33 <rgarcia> … if anyone has made any implementation, you can support the draft at IETF

… if anyone has made any implementation, you can support the draft at IETF

14:35:58 <rgarcia> … Eric Wilde could provide advice on how to support

… Eric Wilde could provide advice on how to support

14:36:39 <rgarcia> … I will gather this information

… I will gather this information

14:37:11 <rgarcia> Ashok: Someone asked about the LDP schema

Ashok Malhotra: Someone asked about the LDP schema

14:37:19 <rgarcia> … not clear what is it about

… not clear what is it about

14:37:36 <rgarcia> SteveS: I will take the action to respond pointing to the ontology documents

Steve Speicher: I will take the action to respond pointing to the ontology documents

14:38:04 <rgarcia> ericP: maybe the question is related to the RDF validation workshop

Eric Prud'hommeaux: maybe the question is related to the RDF validation workshop

14:38:46 <rgarcia> Arnaud: and ask him to clarify his question

Arnaud Le Hors: and ask him to clarify his question

14:39:38 <rgarcia> topic: Admin (continue) - Next meeting

4. Admin (continue) - Next meeting

14:41:25 <rgarcia> Arnaud: we have the F2F to discuss any issues that appear, maybe we don't need to have calls unless something urgent appears

Arnaud Le Hors: we have the F2F to discuss any issues that appear, maybe we don't need to have calls unless something urgent appears

14:42:45 <rgarcia> … we skip August 12th and the next call is on August 19th

… we skip August 12th and the next call is on August 19th

14:43:03 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra

14:43:30 <Ashok> Hi Eric, were you trying to attract my attention?

Ashok Malhotra: Hi Eric, were you trying to attract my attention?

14:44:02 <Zakim> -svillata

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14:44:03 <Zakim> -EricP

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14:44:04 <Zakim> -mielvds

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14:44:04 <Zakim> -SteveS

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14:44:06 <Zakim> -TallTed

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14:44:06 <Zakim> -Arnaud

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14:44:08 <Zakim> -rgarcia

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14:44:10 <Zakim> -nmihindu

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14:44:10 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

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14:44:10 <Zakim> Attendees were Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, rgarcia, SteveS, nmihindu, svillata, mielvds, TallTed, EricP

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, rgarcia, SteveS, nmihindu, svillata, mielvds, TallTed, EricP

14:54:34 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting

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Arnaud Le Hors: trackbot, end meeting

14:54:34 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

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14:54:34 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

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14:54:42 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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14:54:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/05-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

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14:54:43 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

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14:54:43 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

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