14:57:42 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/12/10-ldp-irc
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14:57:44 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
14:57:46 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP ←
14:57:46 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started ←
14:57:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:57:47 <trackbot> Date: 10 December 2012
15:00:05 <Zakim> +Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud ←
15:00:13 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
15:00:21 <dret> zakim, +1.510.206.aaaa is me
Erik Wilde: zakim, +1.510.206.aaaa is me ←
15:00:21 <Zakim> +dret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +dret; got it ←
15:00:23 <AndyS> zakim, code?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, code? ←
15:00:23 <Zakim> the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), AndyS ←
15:00:25 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
15:00:28 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me
Steve Speicher: Zakim, [IBM] is me ←
15:00:28 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
15:00:46 <dret> hello everybody!
Erik Wilde: hello everybody! ←
15:00:52 <Zakim> +bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish ←
15:01:12 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
15:01:32 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
15:01:35 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok_Malhotra ←
15:01:45 <AndyS> zakim, ??P27 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P27 is me ←
15:01:45 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
15:02:09 <Zakim> +Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves ←
15:02:10 <Zakim> +rogerm
Zakim IRC Bot: +rogerm ←
15:02:23 <Zakim> +??P30
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←
15:02:37 <Zakim> + +44.754.550.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.754.550.aabb ←
15:03:03 <Arnaud> zakim, who's here?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's here? ←
15:03:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, ??P9, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, ??P30, +44.754.550.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, ??P9, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, ??P30, +44.754.550.aabb ←
15:03:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, jmvanel, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, jmvanel, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves ←
15:03:17 <SteveBattle> zakim, aabb is me
Steve Battle: zakim, aabb is me ←
15:03:17 <Zakim> +SteveBattle; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveBattle; got it ←
15:03:48 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P30 is me
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, ??P30 is me ←
15:03:48 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nmihindu; got it ←
15:04:12 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe ←
15:04:13 <Zakim> +[OpenLink]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[OpenLink] ←
15:04:19 <MacTed> Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me ←
15:04:19 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←
15:04:20 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:04:20 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
15:04:33 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
15:04:43 <Arnaud> zakim, who's here?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's here? ←
15:04:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, ??P9, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, nmihindu, SteveBattle, JohnArwe, MacTed (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, ??P9, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, nmihindu, SteveBattle, JohnArwe, MacTed (muted) ←
15:04:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnArwe, krp, rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see JohnArwe, krp, rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves ←
15:05:21 <Zakim> +??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P43 ←
15:05:36 <krp> zakim, ??P43 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P43 is me ←
15:05:37 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
15:06:07 <SteveBattle> Sorry if it was me
Steve Battle: Sorry if it was me ←
15:06:15 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:06:15 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted ←
15:06:24 <rogerm> zakim, ??P9 is me
Roger Menday: zakim, ??P9 is me ←
15:06:25 <Zakim> +rogerm; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rogerm; got it ←
15:06:25 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:06:25 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
15:06:49 <rogerm> zakim, ??P9 is not me
Roger Menday: zakim, ??P9 is not me ←
15:06:49 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P9 is not me', rogerm
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '??P9 is not me', rogerm ←
15:06:53 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's here? ←
15:06:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, rogerm.a, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, nmihindu, SteveBattle, JohnArwe, MacTed (muted), krp
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, rogerm.a, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, nmihindu, SteveBattle, JohnArwe, MacTed (muted), krp ←
15:06:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnArwe, krp, rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see JohnArwe, krp, rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves ←
15:07:03 <bblfish> this is like zork
Henry Story: this is like zork ←
15:07:07 <MacTed> Zakim, rogerm.a is ??P9
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, rogerm.a is ??P9 ←
15:07:07 <Zakim> +??P9; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9; got it ←
15:07:15 <bblfish> go west
Henry Story: go west ←
15:07:29 <Arnaud> zakim, who's here?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's here? ←
15:07:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, ??P9, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, nmihindu, SteveBattle, JohnArwe, MacTed (muted), krp
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, Arnaud, SteveS, ??P9, bblfish, AndyS, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, rogerm, nmihindu, SteveBattle, JohnArwe, MacTed (muted), krp ←
15:07:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnArwe, krp, rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see JohnArwe, krp, rogerm, SteveBattle, Ashok, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, dret, deiu, MacTed, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, bblfish, trackbot, ericP, sandro, Yves ←
15:07:32 <MacTed> best to ignore unidentified caller...
Ted Thibodeau: best to ignore unidentified caller... ←
15:08:00 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:08:00 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted ←
15:08:14 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:08:14 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
15:08:27 <JohnArwe> ruben and sandro emailed regrets
John Arwe: ruben and sandro emailed regrets ←
15:08:29 <bblfish> I can
Henry Story: I can ←
<bblfish> scribe: bblfish
(Scribe set to Henry Story)
<bblfish> chair: Arnaud
15:08:51 <Zakim> -??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P9 ←
15:09:01 <bblfish> ok, sometimes my connection breaks
ok, sometimes my connection breaks ←
15:09:15 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:09:45 <bblfish> Topic: Previous meeting minutes
<bblfish> PROPOSED: Approve minutes from last week
PROPOSED: Approve minutes from last week ←
15:09:49 <SteveBattle> +1
Steve Battle: +1 ←
15:09:57 <bblfish> +1 read it but was not there
+1 read it but was not there ←
15:09:58 <Zakim> +??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P43 ←
15:10:08 <krp> zakim, ??P43 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P43 is me ←
15:10:08 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
15:10:39 <Zakim> +MHausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +MHausenblas ←
15:10:40 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me ←
15:10:40 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
15:10:57 <bblfish> someone: So there was an indexical problem under 4 proposed and resolved, not clear who it was
John Arwe: So there was an indexical problem under 4 proposed and resolved, not clear who it was ←
15:11:12 <JohnArwe> s/someone/JohnArwe/
15:11:13 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice] ←
15:11:25 <bblfish> RESOLVED: minutes of last week, December 3, 2012 approved.
RESOLVED: minutes of last week, December 3, 2012 approved. ←
15:11:30 <ericP> Zakim, [GVoice] is me
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, [GVoice] is me ←
15:11:31 <Zakim> +ericP; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP; got it ←
15:11:41 <bblfish> Topic: Next year's F2F meeting
15:12:00 <bblfish> there seems to have been at TPAC a preference for March
there seems to have been at TPAC a preference for March ←
15:12:37 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's noisy? ←
15:12:40 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ericP
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute ericP ←
15:12:40 <Zakim> ericP should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ericP should now be muted ←
15:12:48 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (26%), ericP (27%)
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (26%), ericP (27%) ←
15:12:54 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
15:13:15 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:13:34 <bblfish> Arnaud: going over the situation as decided by TPAC and available online ( xxx ? )
Arnaud Le Hors: going over the situation as decided by TPAC and available online ( xxx ? ) ←
15:13:54 <bblfish> xyz: Proposed Boston
Steve Speicher: Proposed Boston ←
15:14:06 <Zakim> +??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P43 ←
15:14:07 <JohnArwe> s/xyz/SteveSpeicher/
15:14:14 <bblfish> .... for reasons of it being close to a lot of people.
.... for reasons of it being close to a lot of people. ←
15:14:17 <krp> zakim, ??P43 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P43 is me ←
15:14:17 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
15:14:32 <bblfish> Arnaud: was wondering how to go about this. A Poll?, ....
Arnaud Le Hors: was wondering how to go about this. A Poll?, .... ←
15:14:34 <Zakim> +??P46
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P46 ←
15:14:49 <bblfish> .... nobody seems to be voicing an opinion one way or the other.
.... nobody seems to be voicing an opinion one way or the other. ←
15:14:51 <SteveS> +1 for 3 days, since we go through the trouble of traveling that far
Steve Speicher: +1 for 3 days, since we go through the trouble of traveling that far ←
15:14:52 <svillata> Zakim, ??P46 is me
Serena Villata: Zakim, ??P46 is me ←
15:14:52 <Zakim> +svillata; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +svillata; got it ←
15:15:06 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice] ←
15:15:41 <bblfish> ... 14-16 of March seems is discussed. but 13-15 would be better as it does not cover meeting
... 14-16 of March seems is discussed. but 13-15 would be better as it does not cover meeting on saturday ←
15:15:46 <SteveBattle> +1 for 3 days
Steve Battle: +1 for 3 days ←
15:15:48 <bblfish> roger: supports 3 days
Roger Menday: supports 3 days ←
15:16:00 <JohnArwe> march 16 is a saturday too
John Arwe: march 16 is a saturday too ←
15:16:02 <Zakim> +[GVoice.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice.a] ←
15:16:28 <Zakim> -[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[GVoice] ←
15:16:30 <bblfish> s/does not cover meeting/does not cover meeting on saturday/
15:16:42 <bblfish> Arnaud: 13-15 in Boston would be the proposal
Arnaud Le Hors: 13-15 in Boston would be the proposal ←
15:16:54 <bblfish> ... needs to verify with MIT
... needs to verify with MIT ←
15:17:10 <Ashok> q+
Ashok Malhotra: q+ ←
15:17:20 <bblfish> ... if those dates are workable
... if those dates are workable ←
15:17:35 <bblfish> ashok: why not start on the 12, which is Tuesday?
Ashok Malhotra: why not start on the 12, which is Tuesday? ←
15:17:52 <bblfish> Arnaud: Bart had a conflict on Tuesday
Arnaud Le Hors: Bart had a conflict on Tuesday ←
15:18:20 <bblfish> ... assuming that Erik can get the meeting rooms....
... assuming that Erik can get the meeting rooms.... ←
15:18:29 <bblfish> Eric is looking in his calendar
Eric is looking in his calendar ←
15:19:10 <bblfish> Eric: ... not the coolest room ( which is not the one next to the bar ) but with a bit of money one can get the bar
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... not the coolest room ( which is not the one next to the bar ) but with a bit of money one can get the bar ←
15:19:37 <bblfish> Eric: those who sponsor the event get their name somewhere, and people can toast your company
Eric Prud'hommeaux: those who sponsor the event get their name somewhere, and people can toast your company ←
15:19:57 <bblfish> .... 13-15 is possible on the 8th floor of Stella
.... 13-15 is possible on the 8th floor of Stella ←
15:20:11 <bblfish> Arnaud: this is going to be the default then
Arnaud Le Hors: this is going to be the default then ←
<bblfish> RESOLVED: F2F2 to be held at MIT in Boston on March 13-15 (3 days) - to be confirmed in January
RESOLVED: F2F2 to be held at MIT in Boston on March 13-15 (3 days) - to be confirmed in January ←
15:20:22 <bblfish> Topic: Actions and Issues
15:20:39 <SteveBattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:20:49 <Ashok> q-
Ashok Malhotra: q- ←
15:20:50 <bblfish> Arnaud: anyone wants to claim his actions?
Arnaud Le Hors: anyone wants to claim his actions? ←
15:21:18 <SteveBattle> q-
Steve Battle: q- ←
15:21:20 <bblfish> Arnaud: Where at Actions here
Arnaud Le Hors: We are at Actions here ←
15:21:43 <dret> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37
Erik Wilde: ISSUE-37">http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37 ←
15:21:49 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:21:58 <bblfish> s/Where at/We are at/
15:22:16 <Zakim> +??P40
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P40 ←
15:22:28 <bblfish> which action are we speaking of?
which action are we speaking of? ←
15:23:00 <krp> zakim, ??P40 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P40 is me ←
15:23:00 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
15:23:41 <bblfish> me. got lost sorry.
me. got lost sorry. ←
15:24:02 <bblfish> Arnaud: we can close the Action
Arnaud Le Hors: we can close the Action ←
<bblfish> RESOLVED: close action-32, page was created
RESOLVED: close ACTION-32, page was created ←
15:24:07 <bblfish> close action-32
15:24:07 <trackbot> ACTION-32 create wiki page to structure and consolidate discussions around LDP model (ISSUE-37) closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-32 create wiki page to structure and consolidate discussions around LDP model (ISSUE-37) closed ←
15:24:25 <bblfish> action-32?
15:24:25 <trackbot> ACTION-32 -- Erik Wilde to create wiki page to structure and consolidate discussions around LDP model (ISSUE-37) -- due 2012-12-03 -- CLOSED
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-32 -- Erik Wilde to create wiki page to structure and consolidate discussions around LDP model (ISSUE-37) -- due 2012-12-03 -- CLOSED ←
15:24:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/32
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/32 ←
15:24:40 <bblfish> Arnaud: Let's look at Issues...
Arnaud Le Hors: Let's look at Issues... ←
15:25:06 <bblfish> Issue-40?
15:25:06 <trackbot> ISSUE-40 -- creating/deleting/changing non RDF resources -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-40 -- creating/deleting/changing non RDF resources -- raised ←
15:25:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/40
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/40 ←
15:25:16 <Zakim> +??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P43 ←
15:25:23 <deiu> Zakim, ??P43 is me
Andrei Sambra: Zakim, ??P43 is me ←
15:25:23 <Zakim> +deiu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deiu; got it ←
15:25:24 <bblfish> Issue-41?
15:25:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-41 -- Standard way to manage members with attachments -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-41 -- Standard way to manage members with attachments -- raised ←
15:25:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/41
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/41 ←
15:26:12 <SteveBattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:27:46 <bblfish> SteveBattle: Added the corresponding use case 8 for this, so I think Issue-40 can be opened and closed.
Steve Battle: Added the corresponding use case 8 for this, so I think ISSUE-40 can be opened and closed. ←
<bblfish> Arnaud: let's mark it as pending and we can close it next week
Arnaud Le Hors: let's mark it as pending and we can close it next week ←
15:28:51 <SteveBattle> q-
Steve Battle: q- ←
15:29:11 <bblfish> RESOLVED: set Issue-40 to pending review
RESOLVED: set ISSUE-40 to pending review ←
15:29:37 <bblfish> talking about Issue-41
15:29:50 <SteveBattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:30:09 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:30:19 <Arnaud> ack steveb
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steveb ←
15:30:32 <Zakim> +??P40
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P40 ←
15:30:35 <bblfish> SteveBattle: has added scenarios covering Issue-41 to use case 8
Steve Battle: has added scenarios covering ISSUE-41 to use case 8 ←
15:31:03 <krp> zakim, ??P40 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P40 is me ←
15:31:03 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
15:31:35 <bblfish> .... so this can be put to pending review
.... so this can be put to pending review ←
15:31:53 <bblfish> please set it
please set it ←
<bblfish> RESOLVED: set Issue-41 to pending review
RESOLVED: set ISSUE-41 to pending review ←
15:32:00 <Zakim> -SteveBattle
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveBattle ←
15:32:20 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:32:21 <bblfish> ok, I updated it to pending rewview
ok, I updated it to pending rewview ←
15:32:42 <bblfish> Topic: Use Cases And Requirements
15:33:10 <bblfish> Arnaud: Is the document ready for review?
Arnaud Le Hors: Is the document ready for review? ←
15:33:15 <SteveBattle> q-
Steve Battle: q- ←
15:33:21 <bblfish> q?
q? ←
15:33:25 <SteveBattle> I've dropped off the call
Steve Battle: I've dropped off the call ←
15:33:40 <bblfish> SteveBattle: do you believe it is ready for review?
Steve Battle: do you believe it is ready for review? ←
15:33:41 <ericP> SteveBattle, do you want to push for WG review on UC&R today?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: SteveBattle, do you want to push for WG review on UC&R today? ←
15:33:49 <SteveBattle> Yes please
Steve Battle: Yes please ←
15:34:04 <ericP> roger
Eric Prud'hommeaux: roger ←
15:34:15 <SteveBattle> We'll freeze the document for the coming week.
Steve Battle: We'll freeze the document for the coming week. ←
15:34:19 <bblfish> So the plan is for the WG to review the UCR for next monday
So the plan is for the WG to review the UCR for next monday ←
15:34:46 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
15:35:02 <bblfish> Arnaud: So the aim is to get the document to be published before the end of the year
Arnaud Le Hors: So the aim is to get the document to be published before the end of the year ←
15:35:11 <krp> zakim, ??P31 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P31 is me ←
15:35:11 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
15:35:13 <Zakim> +SteveBattle
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveBattle ←
15:35:20 <bblfish> Zakim, who is speaking?
Zakim, who is speaking? ←
15:35:31 <Zakim> bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: dret (3%), Arnaud (33%)
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: dret (3%), Arnaud (33%) ←
15:35:33 <SteveBattle> OK - I'm back
Steve Battle: OK - I'm back ←
15:35:51 <bblfish> people need to look at what is in there.
people need to look at what is in there. ←
15:35:53 <SteveBattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:36:26 <Arnaud> ack steveb
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steveb ←
15:36:53 <bblfish> SteveBattle: asking people to review the content, the examples, is there something that should be taken out, is in scope, ...
Steve Battle: asking people to review the content, the examples, is there something that should be taken out, is in scope, ... ←
15:37:06 <bblfish> Arnaud: we can annotate the document with open issues.
Arnaud Le Hors: we can annotate the document with open issues. ←
15:37:32 <bblfish> ... so that we don't have to resolve the issues, but we can annotate them
... so that we don't have to resolve the issues, but we can annotate them ←
15:38:03 <bblfish> SteveBattle: Please try to get reviews in before Friday...
Steve Battle: Please try to get reviews in before Friday... ←
15:38:16 <bblfish> who is speaking?
who is speaking? ←
15:38:21 <Arnaud> ericp
Arnaud Le Hors: ericp ←
15:38:28 <ericP> SOTD: The WG intends to address the use cases and requirements in the document. Other use cases and requirements may be added in the future. We invite community feedback on these and other use cases.
Eric Prud'hommeaux: SOTD: The WG intends to address the use cases and requirements in the document. Other use cases and requirements may be added in the future. We invite community feedback on these and other use cases. ←
15:39:08 <bblfish> ericp: propose a status of the document so that people would know ( ? )
Eric Prud'hommeaux: propose a status of the document so that people would know ( ? ) ←
15:39:24 <bblfish> ... so reviewers can understand what they are reviewing to
... so reviewers can understand what they are reviewing to ←
15:39:26 <SteveS> +1 to ericP's SOTD
Steve Speicher: +1 to ericP's SOTD ←
15:39:27 <SteveBattle> OK - we'll add that.
Steve Battle: OK - we'll add that. ←
15:40:38 <bblfish> ericp: an html version of this document that passes the pubrules requirements
Eric Prud'hommeaux: an html version of this document that passes the pubrules requirements ←
15:40:58 <bblfish> ericp: there is a wiki page somewhere explaining this ( please point us to it if you have it )
Eric Prud'hommeaux: there is a wiki page somewhere explaining this ( please point us to it if you have it ) ←
15:41:14 <bblfish> SteveBattle: we'll use respec version 3
Steve Speicher: we'll use respec version 3 ←
15:41:30 <SteveBattle> s/SteveBattle/SteveSpeicher/
15:41:37 <bblfish> ericP: we need to look at what the short name should be
Eric Prud'hommeaux: we need to look at what the short name should be ←
15:41:48 <bblfish> SteveSpeicher: ldp-ucr?
Steve Speicher: ldp-ucr? ←
15:42:08 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:42:19 <SteveBattle> That's what we're pushing for :)
Steve Battle: That's what we're pushing for :) ←
15:42:21 <bblfish> Arnaud: it would be great if we can publish this before the end of the eyar
Arnaud Le Hors: it would be great if we can publish this before the end of the year ←
15:42:32 <bblfish> s/eyar/year/
15:42:34 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
15:42:38 <bblfish> Topic: LDP spec
15:43:46 <bblfish> Arnaud: the charter requires a refresh of the spec, beginning of 2013 January
Arnaud Le Hors: the charter requires a refresh of the spec, beginning of 2013 January ←
15:44:03 <bblfish> ... but I am not sure we have made enough progress
... but I am not sure we have made enough progress ←
15:44:26 <bblfish> ... and it is good to help us make progress
... and it is good to help us make progress ←
15:44:46 <Zakim> bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: dret (21%)
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: dret (21%) ←
15:45:02 <bblfish> dret: looking at issue 38
Steve Speicher: looking at ISSUE-38 ←
15:45:30 <Arnaud> s/dret/steves/
15:45:41 <JohnArwe> I also expect to spend a block of time over the holidays trying to clean up anything I can on spec.
John Arwe: I also expect to spend a block of time over the holidays trying to clean up anything I can on spec. ←
15:45:53 <bblfish> Steve Spiker: looking at issue 38 and this could make some changes to spec
Steve Speicher: looking at ISSUE-38 and this could make some changes to spec ←
15:46:21 <SteveS> s/Steve Spiker/SteveS/
15:48:27 <bblfish> Ashok: you have written up the AtomPub part but ours is somewhat different, where we can create and delete collections, so then we have to speak of collections, what happens to the members
Ashok Malhotra: you have written up the AtomPub part but ours is somewhat different, where we can create and delete collections, so then we have to speak of collections, what happens to the members ←
15:48:29 <SteveS> q+
Steve Speicher: q+ ←
15:48:52 <Zakim> -??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P31 ←
15:49:14 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
15:49:50 <bblfish> xxx: we are doing something more complex indeed that AtomPub, but we have it
Ashok Malhotra: we are doing something more complex indeed that AtomPub, but we have it ←
15:50:04 <JohnArwe> s/xxx/Ashok/
15:50:15 <bblfish> SteveS: we have issues for this in the tracker
Steve Speicher: we have issues for this in the tracker ←
15:50:49 <bblfish> dret: we can link open issues to this page ( which one again?)
Erik Wilde: we can link open issues to this page ( which one again?) ←
15:51:12 <dret> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37 is the page
Erik Wilde: ISSUE-37">http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37 is the page ←
15:51:16 <bblfish> thanks
thanks ←
15:51:42 <Zakim> -??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P31 ←
15:52:06 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:52:06 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted ←
15:52:09 <bblfish> Ashok: are you asking that I should edit the wiki page that dret wrote up.
Ashok Malhotra: are you asking that I should edit the wiki page that dret wrote up. ←
15:52:22 <bblfish> Arnaud: everybody should be ok to edit this page
Arnaud Le Hors: everybody should be ok to edit this page ←
15:52:58 <SteveS> q-
Steve Speicher: q- ←
15:53:02 <bblfish> dret: that's ok I did this for AtomPub, and I think it would be good if other people can do the same for other protocols
Erik Wilde: that's ok I did this for AtomPub, and I think it would be good if other people can do the same for other protocols ←
15:53:26 <bblfish> dret: it is useful to help see what kinds of questions we need to answer.
Erik Wilde: it is useful to help see what kinds of questions we need to answer. ←
15:53:39 <bblfish> Arnaud: this page gives us a framework.
Arnaud Le Hors: this page gives us a framework. ←
15:53:49 <MacTed> q+
Ted Thibodeau: q+ ←
15:54:17 <bblfish> Arnaud: regarding the issues, we can have references from that wiki page to the open issues
Arnaud Le Hors: regarding the issues, we can have references from that wiki page to the open issues ←
15:54:39 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
15:54:40 <bblfish> MacTed: this page is to expose issues by analysing these other protocols in parallel to our stuff.
Ted Thibodeau: this page is to expose issues by analysing these other protocols in parallel to our stuff. ←
15:54:59 <bblfish> agreement all around.
agreement all around. ←
15:55:25 <bblfish> MacTed: requests a bit richer use of html
Ted Thibodeau: requests a bit richer use of html ←
15:55:44 <bblfish> MacTed: in the first paragraph "any atompub server exposes a "service document" (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8) "
Ted Thibodeau: in the first paragraph "any atompub server exposes a "service document" (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8) " ←
15:55:49 <krp> zakim, ??P31 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P31 is me ←
15:55:49 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
15:56:08 <bblfish> this should be [http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8 service document]
this should be [http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8 service document] ←
15:56:10 <SteveS> q+
Steve Speicher: q+ ←
15:56:32 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:56:39 <MacTed> ack me
Ted Thibodeau: ack me ←
15:56:40 <bblfish> dret: I'll do that, just had pasted my e-mail to the wiki
Erik Wilde: I'll do that, just had pasted my e-mail to the wiki ←
15:56:47 <Arnaud> ack macted
Arnaud Le Hors: ack macted ←
15:56:49 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
15:57:18 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:57:18 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
15:57:21 <MacTed> issue-30?
15:57:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Hierarchical bugtracking service -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-30 -- Hierarchical bugtracking service -- open ←
15:57:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/30
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/30 ←
15:57:31 <SteveBattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:57:53 <Arnaud> ack steveb
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steveb ←
15:58:25 <bblfish> SteveBattle: this is can be closed, it was moved to ucr
Steve Battle: this is can be closed, it was moved to ucr ←
15:58:34 <MacTed> PROPOSAL: close issue-30, it was moved to UCR
PROPOSED: close ISSUE-30, it was moved to UCR ←
15:58:41 <SteveBattle> +1
Steve Battle: +1 ←
15:58:52 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
15:58:52 <MacTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:58:54 <cygri> +1
Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←
15:58:55 <svillata> +1
Serena Villata: +1 ←
15:58:56 <Arnaud> +1
Arnaud Le Hors: +1 ←
15:58:57 <krp> +1
Kevin Page: +1 ←
15:59:02 <rogerm> +1
Roger Menday: +1 ←
15:59:09 <bblfish> close issue-30
15:59:09 <trackbot> ISSUE-30 Hierarchical bugtracking service closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-30 Hierarchical bugtracking service closed ←
15:59:16 <MacTed> RESOLVED: close issue-30, it was moved to UCR
RESOLVED: close ISSUE-30, it was moved to UCR ←
15:59:34 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:59:34 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted ←
16:00:15 <MacTed> q+
Ted Thibodeau: q+ ←
16:00:18 <bblfish> Arnaud: the only way to make progress is to close these issues
Arnaud Le Hors: the only way to make progress is to close these issues ←
16:00:26 <bblfish> ... and this needs proposals
... and this needs proposals ←
16:00:56 <bblfish> Arnaud: so is suggesting to go down the list and propose to close the issue
Arnaud Le Hors: so is suggesting to go down the list and propose to close the issue ←
16:01:10 <Arnaud> ack macted
Arnaud Le Hors: ack macted ←
16:01:15 <Zakim> -SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←
16:01:45 <bblfish> ... if people don't have proposals then the issue gets closed
... if people don't have proposals then the issue gets closed ←
<bblfish> ... if someone objects to closing the issue they will have to take an action to make a proposal
... if someone objects to closing the issue they will have to take an action to make a proposal ←
16:02:07 <dret> thanks everybody!
Erik Wilde: thanks everybody! ←
16:02:13 <SteveBattle> Thanks
Steve Battle: Thanks ←
16:02:13 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra ←
16:02:15 <Zakim> -rogerm
Zakim IRC Bot: -rogerm ←
16:02:15 <Zakim> -Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves ←
16:02:15 <bblfish> MacTed: suggests that there should be a heads up on which issues should be decided in the topics for the teleconf
Ted Thibodeau: suggests that there should be a heads up on which issues should be decided in the topics for the teleconf ←
<bblfish> Arnaud: yes, we can do that
Arnaud Le Hors: yes, we can do that ←
16:02:16 <svillata> bye
Serena Villata: bye ←
16:02:18 <bblfish> bye
bye ←
16:02:18 <Zakim> -MacTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -MacTed ←
16:02:19 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
16:02:20 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
16:02:21 <Zakim> -dret
Zakim IRC Bot: -dret ←
16:02:23 <Zakim> -deiu
Zakim IRC Bot: -deiu ←
16:02:24 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
16:02:24 <Zakim> -svillata
Zakim IRC Bot: -svillata ←
16:02:26 <Zakim> -bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←
16:02:28 <Zakim> -??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P31 ←
16:02:31 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
16:02:33 <Ashok> rrsagent, pointer?
Ashok Malhotra: rrsagent, pointer? ←
16:02:33 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2012/12/10-ldp-irc#T16-02-33
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2012/12/10-ldp-irc#T16-02-33 ←
16:02:36 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
16:02:38 <Zakim> -SteveBattle
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveBattle ←
16:02:59 <MacTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
Ted Thibodeau: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
16:02:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/10-ldp-minutes.html MacTed
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/10-ldp-minutes.html MacTed ←
16:03:02 <MacTed> RRSAgent, set logs public
Ted Thibodeau: RRSAgent, set logs public ←
16:03:05 <Zakim> -nmihindu
Zakim IRC Bot: -nmihindu ←
16:03:07 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
16:03:07 <Zakim> Attendees were Arnaud, dret, SteveS, bblfish, Ashok_Malhotra, AndyS, Yves, rogerm, +44.754.550.aabb, SteveBattle, nmihindu, JohnArwe, MacTed, krp, ??P9, cygri, ericP, svillata,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Arnaud, dret, SteveS, bblfish, Ashok_Malhotra, AndyS, Yves, rogerm, +44.754.550.aabb, SteveBattle, nmihindu, JohnArwe, MacTed, krp, ??P9, cygri, ericP, svillata, ←
16:03:07 <Zakim> ... [GVoice], deiu
Zakim IRC Bot: ... [GVoice], deiu ←
16:03:21 <MacTed> trackbot, end meeting
Ted Thibodeau: trackbot, end meeting ←
16:03:21 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
16:03:22 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is ←
16:03:29 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
16:03:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/10-ldp-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/10-ldp-minutes.html trackbot ←
16:03:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
16:03:30 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
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