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14:58:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:58:47 <trackbot> Date: 19 December 2013
15:00:20 <Zakim> +bhyland
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15:00:50 <PhilA> I will be there shortly
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15:01:06 <MakxDekkers> On slow and unstable line today because of rain
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15:02:21 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
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15:02:22 <PhilA> Hadley and I are just finishing another call
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15:02:25 <gatemezi> zamil, +33.4.93.00.aaaa is me
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15:02:26 <HadleyBeeman> sorry, all — philA and I are nearly there
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15:02:26 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
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15:02:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, bhyland, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, Makx_Dekkers
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15:03:36 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
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15:04:04 <PhilA> zakim, code?
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15:04:04 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
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15:05:22 <PhilA> chair: bhyland
15:05:47 <PhilA> bhyland: Thanks to everyone for the input. My apologies for the confusion over Tuesday's meeting
Bernadette Hyland: Thanks to everyone for the input. My apologies for the confusion over Tuesday's meeting [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
15:05:57 <PhilA> bhyland: Sandro kindly called the vote
Bernadette Hyland: Sandro kindly called the vote [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
15:06:05 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
15:06:10 <PhilA> scribeNick: PhilA
15:06:12 <bhyland> Frozen version of BP doc is https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/4dbafa673d70/bp/index.html
Bernadette Hyland: Frozen version of BP doc is https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/4dbafa673d70/bp/index.html ←
15:06:41 <PhilA> bhyland: We had 17 or so votes. Mostly with +1, but some with fractions
Bernadette Hyland: We had 17 or so votes. Mostly with +1, but some with fractions ←
15:07:02 <PhilA> bhyland: But a 0 from Dave Reynolds and a -1 from MakxDekkers
Bernadette Hyland: But a 0 from Dave Reynolds and a -1 from MakxDekkers ←
15:07:19 <PhilA> bhyland: Do we have any room to address MakxDekkers' concerns
Bernadette Hyland: Do we have any room to address MakxDekkers' concerns ←
15:08:37 <PhilA> sandro: I think so. Procedurally we can make changes as long as everyone's happy with them. The question is how can we assess that everyone's happy with them within the time frame we have
Sandro Hawke: I think so. Procedurally we can make changes as long as everyone's happy with them. The question is how can we assess that everyone's happy with them within the time frame we have ←
15:08:56 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
15:08:56 <PhilA> ... so if the changes discussed on this call are non-controversial then we should be OK
... so if the changes discussed on this call are non-controversial then we should be OK ←
15:09:33 <PhilA> bhyland: I'll say on behalf of the editors that we'll make these changes. The suggestions are right, there's no push back on the changes proposed and we're happy to fix them
Bernadette Hyland: I'll say on behalf of the editors that we'll make these changes. The suggestions are right, there's no push back on the changes proposed and we're happy to fix them ←
15:09:41 <PhilA> sandro: You mean in Makx's e-mail
Sandro Hawke: You mean in Makx's e-mail ←
15:09:45 <PhilA> bhyland: Yes
Bernadette Hyland: Yes ←
15:09:50 <HadleyBeeman> Makx
Hadley Beeman: Makx ←
15:09:55 <HadleyBeeman> Makx's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Dec/0093.html
Hadley Beeman: Makx's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Dec/0093.html ←
15:10:01 <PhilA> bhyland: His and Dave Reynolds' concerned too
Bernadette Hyland: His and Dave Reynolds' concerns too ←
15:10:09 <PhilA> s/concerned/concerns/
15:10:33 <PhilA> bhyland: Dave was questioning the 5 star scheme usage - and I agree
Bernadette Hyland: Dave was questioning the 5 star scheme usage - and I agree ←
15:10:52 <HadleyBeeman> Dave Reynolds's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Dec/0080.html
Hadley Beeman: Dave Reynolds's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Dec/0080.html ←
15:10:56 <PhilA> bhyland: He was questioning the word Web site - I didn't know what else to call it. OK#
Bernadette Hyland: He was questioning the word Web site - I didn't know what else to call it. OK# ←
15:11:19 <PhilA> bhyland: He had other concerns with which I don't disagree
Bernadette Hyland: He had other concerns with which I don't disagree ←
15:11:32 <PhilA> sandro: Several people talked about the 5 star - how do you plan to address that?
Sandro Hawke: Several people talked about the 5 star - how do you plan to address that? ←
15:11:47 <PhilA> sandro: I heard people being unhappy with 'diluting the 5 star brand'
Sandro Hawke: I heard people being unhappy with 'diluting the 5 star brand' ←
15:12:15 <PhilA> bhyland: I'm happy to delete it altogether as long as there's a link to the 5 star system in the glossary then I'm happy to have it out of the BP doc
Bernadette Hyland: I'm happy to delete it altogether as long as there's a link to the 5 star system in the glossary then I'm happy to have it out of the BP doc ←
15:12:36 <PhilA> sandro: Anyone else?
Sandro Hawke: Anyone else? ←
15:12:40 <MakxDekkers> +1 for removing it
Makx Dekkers: +1 for removing it ←
15:12:49 <PhilA> sandro: My inclination is just to remove it but it's not a show stopper for me
Sandro Hawke: My inclination is just to remove it but it's not a show stopper for me ←
15:13:15 <bhyland> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/4dbafa673d70/bp/index.html#VOCABULARIES
Bernadette Hyland: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/4dbafa673d70/bp/index.html#VOCABULARIES ←
15:13:24 <bhyland> scroll down a bit to the "Vocabulary Creation"
Bernadette Hyland: scroll down a bit to the "Vocabulary Creation" ←
15:13:28 <bhyland> section
Bernadette Hyland: section ←
15:13:34 <HadleyBeeman> q-
Hadley Beeman: q- ←
15:14:05 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: I had 3 major points.
Makx Dekkers: I had 3 major points. ←
15:14:31 <PhilA> ... in section 3 it says that the doc will highlight how LD modelling differs from other formats - but then it doesn't
... in section 3 it says that the doc will highlight how LD modelling differs from other formats - but then it doesn't ←
15:14:40 <PhilA> ... so either that needs to be removed or we need to add what it says
... so either that needs to be removed or we need to add what it says ←
15:15:12 <PhilA> bhyland: I think step N needs to be in the BP doc. I'm disappointed that I didn't I didn't add more on that. My preference is to put in another paragraph
Bernadette Hyland: I think step N needs to be in the BP doc. I'm disappointed that I didn't I didn't add more on that. My preference is to put in another paragraph ←
15:15:39 <PhilA> .... I think there should be a paragraph there. I think there was some language that got cut out. So I want to propose some non-controversial language
.... I think there should be a paragraph there. I think there was some language that got cut out. So I want to propose some non-controversial language ←
15:15:46 <PhilA> ... I'd like the opportunity to put it back in
... I'd like the opportunity to put it back in ←
15:16:00 <PhilA> ... but I don't want to upset anyone at this stage
... but I don't want to upset anyone at this stage ←
15:16:13 <PhilA> ... but I think I can write something there that's not controversial
... but I think I can write something there that's not controversial ←
15:16:26 <PhilA> sandro: Do you think you have that para written somewhere?
Sandro Hawke: Do you think you have that para written somewhere? ←
15:16:37 <PhilA> bhyland: No, but I can follow up directly after the call
Bernadette Hyland: No, but I can follow up directly after the call ←
15:16:57 <PhilA> bhyland: I don't want to start searching around for the old version that has it
Bernadette Hyland: I don't want to start searching around for the old version that has it ←
15:17:34 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: The second part is under provide basic metadata - the way it's formulated now, it sort of says that you must give those descriptors but they're not all always relevant
Makx Dekkers: The second part is under provide basic metadata - the way it's formulated now, it sort of says that you must give those descriptors but they're not all always relevant ←
15:18:02 <PhilA> ... I also know from experience that not all of things are always available or relevant. My proposal is to say 'may include' not must
... I also know from experience that not all of things are always available or relevant. My proposal is to say 'may include' not must ←
15:18:14 <PhilA> ... and MAY, not SHOULD
... and MAY, not SHOULD ←
15:18:30 <PhilA> bhyland: So better qualification
Bernadette Hyland: So better qualification ←
15:19:24 <gatemezi> I don't see the SHOULD here "When modeling Linked Data, it is a best practice to provide basic metadata, including MIME type, publishing organization and/or agency, creation date, modification date, version, frequency of updates, contact email for the data steward(s). In subsequent sections, further guidance on the use of vocabularies, as well as a vocabulary "checklist" are provided as further informative guidance as they play a key role in the Linked Dat[CUT]
Ghislain Atemezing: I don't see the SHOULD here "When modeling Linked Data, it is a best practice to provide basic metadata, including MIME type, publishing organization and/or agency, creation date, modification date, version, frequency of updates, contact email for the data steward(s). In subsequent sections, further guidance on the use of vocabularies, as well as a vocabulary "checklist" are provided as further informative guidance as they play a key role in the Linked Dat[CUT] ←
15:19:30 <PhilA> bhyland: This is a problem in real life is that agencies overlook this. I don't think using MAY not SHOULD will change behaviour. Some of those things get missed when they really shouldn't be optional
Bernadette Hyland: This is a problem in real life is that agencies overlook this. I don't think using MAY not SHOULD will change behaviour. Some of those things get missed when they really shouldn't be optional ←
15:19:38 <gatemezi> Am I missing something?
Ghislain Atemezing: Am I missing something? ←
15:20:05 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: The first argument is that you have some resources where those things don't exist. For e.g. I don't get updated
Makx Dekkers: The first argument is that you have some resources where those things don't exist. For e.g. I don't get updated ←
15:20:20 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: The implication is a MUST - and it's context-dependent
Makx Dekkers: The implication is a MUST - and it's context-dependent ←
15:20:36 <PhilA> ... the basic metadata is different for differnet kinds of resource
... the basic metadata is different for differnet kinds of resource ←
15:20:49 <PhilA> bhyland: How about we say 'if it is available, one may include'
Bernadette Hyland: How about we say 'if it is available, one may include' ←
15:21:05 <HadleyBeeman> "… in can be helpful to include…"?
Hadley Beeman: "… it can be helpful to itclude…"? ←
15:21:10 <HadleyBeeman> s/in/it
15:21:11 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: Say it as you like as long as people who read this afresh don't think that they MUST provide these descriptiors
Makx Dekkers: Say it as you like as long as people who read this afresh don't think that they MUST provide these descriptors ←
15:21:46 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: And in section 8 - that's a show stopper for me. It really should say follow your nose
Makx Dekkers: And in section 8 - that's a show stopper for me. It really should say follow your nose ←
15:21:55 <PhilA> bhyland: I agree completely. That was an oversight. it must be in there
Bernadette Hyland: I agree completely. That was an oversight. it must be in there ←
15:21:57 <gatemezi> s/descriptiors/descriptors
15:22:49 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: And then for consistency with DCAT - you should mention the Loc URI sets. I like Lexvo but it's maintained by one person. I'd be happy to keep it, but the LoC URI set is the most authoritative for this kind of info
Makx Dekkers: And then for consistency with DCAT - you should mention the Loc URI sets. I like Lexvo but it's maintained by one person. I'd be happy to keep it, but the LoC URI set is the most authoritative for this kind of info ←
15:23:07 <PhilA> PhilA: MakxDekkers - LoC and not EUPO NAL??
Phil Archer: MakxDekkers - LoC and not EUPO NAL?? ←
15:23:42 <PhilA> bhyland: I don't think we should link to a one person project
Bernadette Hyland: I don't think we should link to a one person project ←
15:23:44 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:23:49 <PhilA> bhyland: Any other opinions about this?
Bernadette Hyland: Any other opinions about this? ←
15:24:20 <PhilA> sandro: I'm not familiar with Lexvo, but yes, we should link to LoC
Sandro Hawke: I'm not familiar with Lexvo, but yes, we should link to LoC ←
15:24:43 <PhilA> bhyland: Thank you - I will go back and re-read your past messages. I need to do that
Bernadette Hyland: Thank you - I will go back and re-read your past messages. I need to do that ←
15:24:45 <gatemezi> q+
Ghislain Atemezing: q+ ←
15:25:02 <gatemezi> http://www.lexvo.org/linkeddata/references.html uses library of Congress data
Ghislain Atemezing: http://www.lexvo.org/linkeddata/references.html uses library of Congress data ←
15:25:03 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: The spelling of my last name needs correcting in teh acknowledgements
Makx Dekkers: The spelling of my last name needs correcting in teh acknowledgements ←
15:25:14 <HadleyBeeman> While we're at it, LinkedGov isn't "UK LinkedGov"
Hadley Beeman: While we're at it, LinkedGov isn't "UK LinkedGov" ←
15:26:11 <PhilA> sandro: I changed the header field - you should make it today's date
Sandro Hawke: I changed the header field - you should make it today's date ←
15:26:56 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:27:40 <PhilA> bhyland: I'll deal with Dave's issues
Bernadette Hyland: I'll deal with Dave's issues ←
15:27:41 <gatemezi> q-
Ghislain Atemezing: q- ←
15:28:00 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I think it's great that you want to do this but I don't think you have to.
Hadley Beeman: I think it's great that you want to do this but I don't think you have to. ←
15:28:14 <PhilA> ... you *could* not address dave's
... you *could* not address dave's ←
15:28:34 <PhilA> bhyland: But I can, it's a one minute change and I'd like to do it since Dave took the time to review and write the mail
Bernadette Hyland: But I can, it's a one minute change and I'd like to do it since Dave took the time to review and write the mail ←
15:28:46 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:28:58 <PhilA> bhyland: We did this in 28 minutes ;-)
Bernadette Hyland: We did this in 28 minutes ;-) ←
15:29:56 <PhilA> sandro: Who might have an issue with the modelling paragraph
Sandro Hawke: Who might have an issue with the modelling paragraph ←
15:30:31 <PhilA> bhyland: We want to highlight that LD modelling is about stating relationships between resources, you don't have a use in mind
Bernadette Hyland: We want to highlight that LD modelling is about stating relationships between resources, you don't have a use in mind ←
15:30:37 <PhilA> ... that's how I present LD
... that's how I present LD ←
15:30:53 <PhilA> ... you're working in an application-independent way
... you're working in an application-independent way ←
15:31:03 <PhilA> sandro: I don't think that's entirely uncontroversial
Sandro Hawke: I don't think that's entirely uncontroversial ←
15:31:31 <PhilA> bhyland: Yeah, you're right,. I'll go softly softly. It was one if the things Dave highlighted
Bernadette Hyland: Yeah, you're right,. I'll go softly softly. It was one if the things Dave highlighted ←
15:31:31 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
15:32:12 <PhilA> bhyland: Oracle has the 'convert to RDF button' - which doesn't do modelling as such
Bernadette Hyland: Oracle has the 'convert to RDF button' - which doesn't do modelling as such ←
15:32:40 <PhilA> sandro: So let me propose that if you write a paragraph that Dave and I are both happy with - and anyone else that wants to see it
Sandro Hawke: So let me propose that if you write a paragraph that Dave and I are both happy with - and anyone else that wants to see it ←
15:33:15 <PhilA> sandro: I think the process here is that Bernadette is going to make some edits in the next couple of hours. I'm going to suggest she runs those past the relevant people - Makx, Dave, me and maybe others
Sandro Hawke: I think the process here is that Bernadette is going to make some edits in the next couple of hours. I'm going to suggest she runs those past the relevant people - Makx, Dave, me and maybe others ←
15:33:29 <bhyland> I agree.
Bernadette Hyland: I agree. ←
15:33:45 <PhilA> ... and if those people are happy then we circulate it to the group one more time. We believe it's OK but if not speak up before it's published in January
... and if those people are happy then we circulate it to the group one more time. We believe it's OK but if not speak up before it's published in January ←
15:33:56 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I have a counter-suggestion...
Hadley Beeman: I have a counter-suggestion... ←
15:34:43 <PhilA> ... I am uncomfortable with introducing new content at this stage. Makx offered two ways of resolving his issue, one of which was to remove the relevant text
... I am uncomfortable with introducing new content at this stage. Makx offered two ways of resolving his issue, one of which was to remove the relevant text ←
15:35:09 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: i.e. remove the sentecne that says that that paragraph needs to exist. That seems to be an easier resolution
Hadley Beeman: i.e. remove the sentecne that says that that paragraph needs to exist. That seems to be an easier resolution ←
15:35:19 <PhilA> sandro: I'm inclined to agree with you that it reduces the risk
Sandro Hawke: I'm inclined to agree with you that it reduces the risk ←
15:35:33 <PhilA> bhyland: My feeling is that it's a really important step and that it needs to be in the doc
Bernadette Hyland: My feeling is that it's a really important step and that it needs to be in the doc ←
15:36:28 <PhilA> ... we've already neutered this to say that detail is out of scope. We've cut it down a lot. To not have anything else there makes it look inconsequential which means people may think why is it there?
... we've already neutered this to say that detail is out of scope. We've cut it down a lot. To not have anything else there makes it look inconsequential which means people may think why is it there? ←
15:36:35 <PhilA> q+
q+ ←
15:36:51 <PhilA> q- HadleyBeeman
q- HadleyBeeman ←
15:36:56 <PhilA> ack me
ack me ←
15:38:18 <PhilA> PhilA: I suggest showing the doc with the new para and with that sentence that makes it necessary is removed
Phil Archer: I suggest showing the doc with the new para and with that sentence that makes it necessary is removed ←
15:38:31 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So if all that is done, are we agreed that it's ready to go
Hadley Beeman: So if all that is done, are we agreed that it's ready to go ←
15:38:42 <PhilA> proposed resolution: pending the changes discussed in this call, that the WG will publish the Best Practices document as a NOTE - accepting the e-mail vote
proposed resolution: pending the changes discussed in this call, that the WG will publish the Best Practices document as a NOTE - accepting the e-mail vote ←
15:39:35 <PhilA> sandro: I'd like a 2 stage process. Can we get approval from the commentators first
Sandro Hawke: I'd like a 2 stage process. Can we get approval from the commentators first ←
15:40:14 <MakxDekkers> I am available tomorrow to look at it
Makx Dekkers: I am available tomorrow to look at it ←
15:40:43 <PhilA> proposed resolution: pending the changes discussed in this call being approved by the commentators by end of Friday 20th December, that the WG will publish the Best Practices document as a NOTE - as per the e-mail vote
proposed resolution: pending the changes discussed in this call being approved by the commentators by end of Friday 20th December, that the WG will publish the Best Practices document as a NOTE - as per the e-mail vote ←
15:41:15 <MakxDekkers> +1
Makx Dekkers: +1 ←
15:41:17 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
15:41:27 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
15:42:10 <PhilA> proposed resolution: pending the changes discussed in this call being approved by the commentators by end of Friday 20th December, that the WG will publish the Best Practices document as a NOTE - as per the e-mail vote. Members will have until the end of Tuesday 24th to raise any objections
proposed resolution: pending the changes discussed in this call being approved by the commentators by end of Friday 20th December, that the WG will publish the Best Practices document as a NOTE - as per the e-mail vote. Members will have until the end of Tuesday 24th to raise any objections ←
15:42:32 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
15:43:08 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
15:43:15 <MakxDekkers> +1
Makx Dekkers: +1 ←
15:43:19 <HadleyBeeman> sandro: +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:43:33 <PhilA> bhyland: I think we're done...
Bernadette Hyland: I think we're done... ←
15:43:33 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
15:44:02 <MakxDekkers> bye
Makx Dekkers: bye ←
15:44:03 <gatemezi> thanks all
Ghislain Atemezing: thanks all ←
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15:44:10 <Zakim> -bhyland
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15:44:11 <Zakim> -PhilA
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15:44:12 <Zakim> -gatemezi
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15:44:14 <Zakim> -Sandro
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15:44:15 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
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15:44:15 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, bhyland, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, Makx_Dekkers, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, PhilA
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15:44:18 <PhilA> bhyland: On behalf of the editors thank you everyone
Bernadette Hyland: On behalf of the editors thank you everyone ←
15:44:21 <bhyland> Happy Holidays, whatever you celebrate!
Bernadette Hyland: Happy Holidays, whatever you celebrate! ←
15:44:28 <HadleyBeeman> You too, bhyland
Hadley Beeman: You too, bhyland ←
15:45:16 <PhilA> RRSAgent: make logs public
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15:45:33 <PhilA> trackbot, end meeting
trackbot, end meeting ←
15:45:33 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
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15:45:33 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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15:45:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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15:45:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/19-gld-minutes.html trackbot
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15:45:42 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
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15:45:42 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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