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W3C Gov Linked Data WG

Minutes of 10 January 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130110
Seen
Agis Papantoniou, Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Dan Brickley, Dave Reynolds, Fadi Maali, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, James McKinney, John Erickson, Makx Dekkers, Michael Pendleton, Phil Archer, Sandro Hawke
Guests
Dan Brickley
Chair
Bernadette Hyland
Scribe
Fadi Maali
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. accept the minutes link
Topics
14:55:21 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-gld-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-gld-irc

14:55:37 <bhyland> Meeting: W3C Gov Linked Data WG
14:55:43 <bhyland> Chair: bhyland
14:55:47 <bhyland> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130110
14:55:57 <BartvanLeeuwen> hi bhyland

Bart van Leeuwen: hi bhyland

14:56:08 <bhyland> Hi Bart!  Happy new year to you

Bernadette Hyland: Hi Bart! Happy new year to you

14:56:37 <HadleyBeeman> Hi all

Hadley Beeman: Hi all

14:56:43 <BartvanLeeuwen> yeah and a safe one to you !

Bart van Leeuwen: yeah and a safe one to you !

14:57:21 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, what's the code?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, what's the code?

14:57:21 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, HadleyBeeman, I don't know what conference this is

14:57:23 <bhyland> yes, repairs are done & additional smoke detectors will be installed next week… hoping for a smoke free 2013

Bernadette Hyland: yes, repairs are done & additional smoke detectors will be installed next week… hoping for a smoke free 2013

14:57:27 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, this is gld

Hadley Beeman: zakim, this is gld

14:57:27 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, HadleyBeeman; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

14:57:34 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, what's the code?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, what's the code?

14:57:34 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), HadleyBeeman

14:57:39 <bhyland>   conference code 45394#  ("GLDWG")

Bernadette Hyland: conference code 45394# ("GLDWG")

14:57:47 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, bhyland! :)

Hadley Beeman: thanks, bhyland! :)

14:58:03 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:58:15 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p2 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p2 is me

14:58:15 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

14:58:52 <Zakim> +??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8

14:59:01 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aabb

14:59:14 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aabb is me

Hadley Beeman: zakim, aabb is me

14:59:15 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it

14:59:23 <BenediktKaempgen> Zakim, who is there?

Benedikt Kaempgen: Zakim, who is there?

14:59:24 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, BenediktKaempgen.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, BenediktKaempgen.

14:59:28 <BenediktKaempgen> Zakim, who is here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: Zakim, who is here?

14:59:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.540.898.aaaa, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P8, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.540.898.aaaa, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P8, HadleyBeeman

14:59:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see jmynarz, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, RRSAgent, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, danbri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see jmynarz, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, RRSAgent, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, danbri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

14:59:46 <HadleyBeeman> bhyland, i'm surprised that adddress isn't released as open data

Hadley Beeman: bhyland, i'm surprised that adddress isn't released as open data

15:00:29 <PhilA2> up the lurkers!

Phil Archer: up the lurkers!

15:00:48 <Zakim> + +3539149aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aacc

15:00:52 <Zakim> +??P14

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P14

15:01:02 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:01:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.540.898.aaaa, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P8, HadleyBeeman, +3539149aacc, ??P14

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.540.898.aaaa, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P8, HadleyBeeman, +3539149aacc, ??P14

15:01:12 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is me

15:01:12 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it

15:01:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353 is fadmaa

Fadi Maali: Zakim, +353 is fadmaa

15:01:15 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +fadmaa; got it

15:01:18 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks!

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks!

15:01:21 <PhilA> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

15:01:21 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

15:01:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:01:36 <PhilA> zakim, IPcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, IPcaller is me

15:01:36 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it

15:01:44 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:01:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P8, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, ??P14, PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P8, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, ??P14, PhilA

15:02:05 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

15:02:13 <bhyland> zakim, ??P8 is BenediktK

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, ??P8 is BenediktK

15:02:13 <Zakim> +BenediktK; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktK; got it

15:02:30 <BenediktKaempgen> Zakim, BenediktK is BenediktKaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: Zakim, BenediktK is BenediktKaempgen

15:02:30 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it

15:02:34 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:02:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, ??P14, PhilA, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, ??P14, PhilA, Sandro

15:03:27 <bhyland> no, not that I know of Dave

Bernadette Hyland: no, not that I know of Dave

15:03:42 <bhyland> How are you trying to get in? Web UI?

Bernadette Hyland: How are you trying to get in? Web UI?

15:03:51 <fadmaa> scribe:fadmaa

(Scribe set to Fadi Maali)

15:03:51 <fadmaa> guest: Dan (danbri) Brickley
15:03:54 <bhyland> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130110
15:05:04 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

15:05:04 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted

15:05:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:05:24 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:05:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, [IPcaller]

15:05:29 <agipap> zakim, IPcaller is me

Agis Papantoniou: zakim, IPcaller is me

15:05:29 <Zakim> +agipap; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +agipap; got it

15:05:42 <Zakim> +Mike_Pendleton

Zakim IRC Bot: +Mike_Pendleton

15:06:03 <fadmaa> PhilA: we might hear news regarding a second chair next week

Phil Archer: we might hear news regarding a second chair next week

15:06:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:06:45 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: accept minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-12-20

PROPOSED: accept minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-12-20

15:06:50 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:06:53 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

15:07:01 <agipap> +1

Agis Papantoniou: +1

15:07:07 <Zakim> +??P34

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P34

15:07:19 <fadmaa> RESOLUTION: accept the minutes

RESOLVED: accept the minutes

15:07:24 <olyerickson> zakim, ??P34 is me.

John Erickson: zakim, ??P34 is me.

15:07:24 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

15:07:34 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.

John Erickson: zakim, mute me.

15:07:34 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted

15:07:35 <bhyland> Topic: RegOrg FPWD

1. RegOrg FPWD

15:07:35 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+

15:07:43 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:07:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, olyerickson (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, olyerickson (muted)

15:08:38 <bhyland> All, please review http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-regorg/ at your convenience this month.

Bernadette Hyland: All, please review http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-regorg/ at your convenience this month.

15:08:38 <fadmaa> philA:  we hope to get increasing use of the RegOrg ontology

Phil Archer: we hope to get increasing use of the RegOrg ontology

15:09:15 <bhyland> … Netherlands Fire Dept is beginning to use it.

Bernadette Hyland: … Netherlands Fire Dept is beginning to use it.

15:09:47 <fadmaa> agipap: started before christmas working on modeling data we have using the core Organisation ontology using RegOrg. expect some results  next month

Agis Papantoniou: started before christmas working on modeling data we have using the core Organisation ontology using RegOrg. expect some results next month

15:09:52 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

15:09:52 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted

15:10:05 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

15:10:05 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted

15:10:23 <PhilA> It's a pretty simply vocab to be honest ;-)

Phil Archer: It's a pretty simply vocab to be honest ;-)

15:10:26 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:10:58 <fadmaa> bhyland: encourage reviewing ontologies we are working on continuously  esp. Org ontology

Bernadette Hyland: encourage reviewing ontologies we are working on continuously esp. Org ontology

15:11:37 <bhyland> Bart: Beginning to work RegOrg for local chamber of commerce site.  Not being used by official gov't site yet

Bart van Leeuwen: Beginning to work RegOrg for local chamber of commerce site. Not being used by official gov't site yet [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:11:48 <fadmaa> BartvanLeeuwen: where should question re. ontology go?

Bart van Leeuwen: where should question re. ontology go?

15:11:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> ack me

Bart van Leeuwen: ack me

15:11:55 <fadmaa> PhilA: public comment mailing list

Phil Archer: public comment mailing list

15:12:12 <bhyland> Topic: Quick update on Org Vocab

2. Quick update on Org Vocab

15:12:23 <bhyland> … by DaveReynolds

Bernadette Hyland: … by DaveReynolds

15:12:24 <PhilA> The public mailing list for comments on our deliverables is public-gld-comments@w3.org

Phil Archer: The public mailing list for comments on our deliverables is public-gld-comments@w3.org

15:12:36 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we captured issues particularly from provenance group. next step to me is to look at them and propose resolutions

Dave Reynolds: we captured issues particularly from provenance group. next step to me is to look at them and propose resolutions

15:14:20 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have lost some people in this working group including Michael Hausenblas

Bernadette Hyland: we have lost some people in this working group including Michael Hausenblas

15:14:56 <PhilA> topic: What do individuals want to get out of the WG?

3. What do individuals want to get out of the WG?

15:15:07 <fadmaa> bhyland: let's see what people like to see things done from our charter in the remaining next 5 months

Bernadette Hyland: let's see what people like to see things done from our charter in the remaining next 5 months

15:16:00 <fadmaa> agipap: I find the Best practices document very helpful

Agis Papantoniou: I find the Best practices document very helpful

15:16:43 <fadmaa> agipap: it already helped us in our work and we finished a publication with its help recently

Agis Papantoniou: it already helped us in our work and we finished a publication with its help recently

15:17:20 <fadmaa> BartvanLeeuwen: I'd like to see the vocabularies we worked on in practice. I have done some work along this lines

Bart van Leeuwen: I'd like to see the vocabularies we worked on in practice. I have done some work along this lines

15:17:51 <fadmaa> BartvanLeeuwen: I think the best practice document should come from the results and lessons of putting things (vocabularies) in use

Bart van Leeuwen: I think the best practice document should come from the results and lessons of putting things (vocabularies) in use

15:18:32 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds

15:19:01 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: Data Cube vocabulary is my focus. it is related to my PhD topic and a number of projects we are working on

Benedikt Kaempgen: Data Cube vocabulary is my focus. it is related to my PhD topic and a number of projects we are working on

15:19:34 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

15:19:46 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:19:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), DaveReynolds

15:19:50 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I'd love to see the Data Cube vocabulary as a standard.

Benedikt Kaempgen: I'd love to see the Data Cube vocabulary as a standard.

15:20:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:20:21 <james> zakim, [IPcaller] is me

James McKinney: zakim, [IPcaller] is me

15:20:21 <Zakim> +james; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +james; got it

15:20:24 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I sent an email today to the list including usecases for Data Cube vocabulary. Would love to see this published a s note

Benedikt Kaempgen: I sent an email today to the list including usecases for Data Cube vocabulary. Would love to see this published as anote

15:20:37 <fadmaa> s/a s /as a/
15:21:39 <fadmaa> bhyland: is there a (reference) implementation using Data Cube vocabulary as part of these projects?

Bernadette Hyland: is there a (reference) implementation using Data Cube vocabulary as part of these projects?

15:22:09 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: it is being used in a number of projects and we publish data using it. not sure I call this a reference implementation

Benedikt Kaempgen: it is being used in a number of projects and we publish data using it. not sure I call this a reference implementation

15:22:18 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+

15:23:11 <DaveReynolds> we don't have "nothing" on QB, there are lots of public uses of it already

Dave Reynolds: we don't have "nothing" on QB, there are lots of public uses of it already

15:23:37 <fadmaa> bhyland: I encourage you  and all to share the work they are doing with the vocabularies even if the work is not perfect (yet)

Bernadette Hyland: I encourage you and all to share the work they are doing with the vocabularies even if the work is not perfect (yet)

15:25:32 <bhyland> All - please consider submission to:

Bernadette Hyland: All - please consider submission to:

15:25:33 <bhyland> European Data Forum 2013 - Call for Contribution

Bernadette Hyland: European Data Forum 2013 - Call for Contribution

15:25:33 <bhyland> 	1.	9-10 April 2013 in Dublin, Ireland. Submissions should be sent via mail to: edf2013@data-forum.eu

Bernadette Hyland: 1. 9-10 April 2013 in Dublin, Ireland. Submissions should be sent via mail to: edf2013@data-forum.eu

15:25:33 <bhyland> 	2.	The deadline for submissions is: 22nd Feb 2013, 02.00pm CET

Bernadette Hyland: 2. The deadline for submissions is: 22nd Feb 2013, 02.00pm CET

15:25:33 <bhyland> 	3.	Details on the Call for Contribution: http://bit.ly/EDF2013-CfC

Bernadette Hyland: 3. Details on the Call for Contribution: http://bit.ly/EDF2013-CfC

15:26:28 <PhilA> q-

Phil Archer: q-

15:26:31 <fadmaa> bhyland: my focus is to get the best practice document done

Bernadette Hyland: my focus is to get the best practice document done

15:26:42 <fadmaa> bhyland: hope to have this done in January

Bernadette Hyland: hope to have this done in January

15:27:06 <fadmaa> bhyland: would like to see a better version of the community directory

Bernadette Hyland: would like to see a better version of the community directory

15:27:16 <sandro> DaveReynolds, is there a list of places of QB?    I'm thinking this WG should be tracking such things, if someone else isn't.

Sandro Hawke: DaveReynolds, is there a list of places using QB? I'm thinking this WG should be tracking such things, if someone else isn't.

15:27:31 <PhilA> Just a nod to BenediktKaempgen that the subject of XBRL keeps coming up at W3C. If we get anywhere near something concrete, I'll let you know. It's been around for years and we keep dancing round each other

Phil Archer: Just a nod to BenediktKaempgen that the subject of XBRL keeps coming up at W3C. If we get anywhere near something concrete, I'll let you know. It's been around for years and we keep dancing round each other

15:27:35 <sandro> s/of QB/using QB/
15:28:18 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: my main interest is on the vocabulary side, particularly Data Cube

Dave Reynolds: my main interest is on the vocabulary side, particularly Data Cube

15:29:06 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: giving the existing usage and adoption of Data Cube I'd be catious about introducing major changes

Dave Reynolds: giving the existing usage and adoption of Data Cube I'd be cautious about introducing major changes

15:29:14 <fadmaa> s/catious/cautious/
15:29:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

15:29:15 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted

15:29:43 <danbri> [aside] re XBRL, I was asked about Financial vocab extensions for schema.org last week ... nothing planned short-term unless there is some interest

Dan Brickley: [aside] re XBRL, I was asked about Financial vocab extensions for schema.org last week ... nothing planned short-term unless there is some interest

15:29:45 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

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Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted

15:29:57 <sandro> gatemezi ?

Sandro Hawke: gatemezi ?

15:30:00 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks, PhilA. Currently, we are again participating in the XBRL challenge. So, great to hear that it also is interesting for W3C.

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks, PhilA. Currently, we are again participating in the XBRL challenge. So, great to hear that it also is interesting for W3C.

15:30:02 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:30:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), DaveReynolds, james

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), DaveReynolds, james

15:30:03 <fadmaa> fadmaa: mainly dcat and the best practice document

Fadi Maali: mainly dcat and the best practice document

15:30:12 <HadleyBeeman> danbri, how do you define "some interest"?

Hadley Beeman: danbri, how do you define "some interest"?

15:30:12 <sandro> gatemezi, are you on the phone?

Sandro Hawke: gatemezi, are you on the phone?

15:31:04 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: getting robust vocabularies to help producing interoperable data

Hadley Beeman: getting robust vocabularies to help producing interoperable data

15:31:13 <BenediktKaempgen> @sandro: We are collecting datasets reusing QB at:  http://wiki.planet-data.eu/web/Datasets Is that what you mean?

Benedikt Kaempgen: @sandro: We are collecting datasets reusing QB at: http://wiki.planet-data.eu/web/Datasets Is that what you mean?

15:31:15 <sandro> gatemezi, ahhh.     bhyland was calling on you on the phone.  :-)

Sandro Hawke: gatemezi, ahhh. bhyland was calling on you on the phone. :-)

15:31:47 <danbri> HadleyBeeman ... I'm not sure! People who'll do the legwork, I guess.

Dan Brickley: HadleyBeeman ... I'm not sure! People who'll do the legwork, I guess.

15:32:01 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: mostly interested in supporting the publication of integrated data and cross datasets links

Hadley Beeman: mostly interested in supporting the publication of integrated data and cross datasets links

15:32:26 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: dcat and Org seem to be helpful to this goal along with the best practices

Hadley Beeman: dcat and Org seem to be helpful to this goal along with the best practices

15:33:56 <fadmaa> james: initially ADMS and Org vocabularies attracted me to the WG. I am happy to contribute to their development

James McKinney: initially ADMS and Org vocabularies attracted me to the WG. I am happy to contribute to their development

15:35:21 <fadmaa> james: I am most on the side of using the vocabularies (development) and can help in reviewing the specifications

James McKinney: I am most on the side of using the vocabularies (development) and can help in reviewing the specifications

15:35:36 <bhyland> … Working with non-profit, citizens to monitor local gov't.

Bernadette Hyland: … Working with non-profit, citizens to monitor local gov't.

15:36:01 <HadleyBeeman> DanBri: thanks.  That helps me get a sense of what you need.

Dan Brickley: thanks. That helps me get a sense of what you need. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:36:14 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen, yes, that's exactly what I was asking about, I think.....

Sandro Hawke: BenediktKaempgen, yes, that's exactly what I was asking about, I think.....

15:36:30 <fadmaa> Mike_Pendleton: EPA and other federal agencies would be most interested in the best pratice documents

Michael Pendleton: EPA and other federal agencies would be most interested in the best pratice documents

15:36:43 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.

John Erickson: zakim, unmute me.

15:36:43 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted

15:36:44 <fadmaa> Mike_Pendleton: the glossary and community directory are also very helpful

Michael Pendleton: the glossary and community directory are also very helpful

15:38:00 <fadmaa> olyerickson: the WG has been amazing so far. In the context of best practices, we have identified a number of vocabularies that people can use

John Erickson: the WG has been amazing so far. In the context of best practices, we have identified a number of vocabularies that people can use

15:38:24 <fadmaa> olyerickson: I'd like to see a sustainable artifacts. In the sense that they hold up over time

John Erickson: I'd like to see a sustainable artifacts. In the sense that they hold up over time

15:38:38 <bhyland> olyerickson: Researcher/RPI.  When we started, we aspired to produce BP for gov't agencies/researchers/companies who want to participate in this ecosystem. In 5 mos., I'd like to see sustainable artifacts that are used by practitioners.

John Erickson: Researcher/RPI. When we started, we aspired to produce BP for gov't agencies/researchers/companies who want to participate in this ecosystem. In 5 mos., I'd like to see sustainable artifacts that are used by practitioners. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:39:17 <fadmaa> olyerickson: that can be by providing artifacts that are general to an extent they remain useful but not too general to the extent that makes them useless

John Erickson: that can be by providing artifacts that are general to an extent they remain useful but not too general to the extent that makes them useless

15:39:56 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

15:39:59 <olyerickson> shoot

John Erickson: shoot

15:40:40 <fadmaa> PhilA: Sandro and me are mainly to help facilitate the WG work

Phil Archer: Sandro and me are mainly to help facilitate the WG work

15:41:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:41:28 <Zakim> + +2134010aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +2134010aadd

15:41:31 <olyerickson> zaqkim, [ipcaller] is me.

John Erickson: zaqkim, [ipcaller] is me.

15:41:43 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to seeing the religious wars between linked data and other forms of open data broken down

Hadley Beeman: +1 to seeing the religious wars between linked data and other forms of open data broken down

15:41:44 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

John Erickson: zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

15:41:44 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

15:41:57 <olyerickson> "Chasm..." hmmm

John Erickson: "Chasm..." hmmm

15:42:55 <olyerickson> Curious about this religious war...

John Erickson: Curious about this religious war...

15:43:51 <fadmaa> sandro:  also mainly to help facilitating the WG functioing and promote the W3C work

Sandro Hawke: also mainly to help facilitating the WG functioning and promote the W3C work

15:43:56 <Makx_Dekkers> hi sorry to be late

Makx Dekkers: hi sorry to be late

15:44:30 <fadmaa> sandro: interested in vocabularies and enhancing their standing in getting adopted

Sandro Hawke: interested in vocabularies and enhancing their standing in getting adopted

15:45:01 <gatemezi> s/functioing/functioning
15:48:00 <fadmaa> Makx_Dekkers: I worked previously on ADMS. for me  refining and having the support for ADMS is a success for the WG

Makx Dekkers: I worked previously on ADMS. for me refining and having the support for ADMS is a success for the WG

15:48:22 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:48:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, james, olyerickson,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa (muted), ??P14, PhilA, Sandro, agipap, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, james, olyerickson,

15:48:25 <Zakim> ... +2134010aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +2134010aadd

15:48:55 <fadmaa> Zakim, aadd is Makx_Dekkers

Zakim, aadd is Makx_Dekkers

15:48:55 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers; got it

15:49:54 <fadmaa> bhyland: people who are not on the call are encouraged to email the group of their wishes for the deliverables in the next 5 months

Bernadette Hyland: people who are not on the call are encouraged to email the group of their wishes for the deliverables in the next 5 months

15:50:36 <fadmaa> bhyland: so far based on the poll about attending the F2F meeting we have 15-a7 people so far

Bernadette Hyland: so far based on the poll about attending the F2F meeting we have 15-a7 people so far

15:50:49 <fadmaa> TOPIC: second F2F meeting

4. second F2F meeting

15:51:07 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:51:12 <BenediktKaempgen> Hoping to come, looking forward to it.

Benedikt Kaempgen: Hoping to come, looking forward to it.

15:51:32 <Makx_Dekkers> planning to be there

Makx Dekkers: planning to be there

15:51:41 <HadleyBeeman> Should be there

Hadley Beeman: Should be there

15:52:14 <fadmaa> bhyland: giving that the meeting is just a month before the end of our charter, please plan for the meeting and think how

Bernadette Hyland: giving that the meeting is just a month before the end of our charter, please plan for the meeting and think how

15:52:14 <gatemezi> Should be there

Ghislain Atemezing: Should be there

15:52:22 <fadmaa> ... to make use of our time there

... to make use of our time there

15:52:51 <bhyland> Topic: EU Data Forum 2013

5. EU Data Forum 2013

15:52:53 <Makx_Dekkers> probably not able to attend the Forum

Makx Dekkers: probably not able to attend the Forum

15:53:06 <bhyland> The big conference for EU open data projects.

Bernadette Hyland: The big conference for EU open data projects.

15:53:18 <fadmaa> PhilA: European Data Forum 2012 was a success... in this year also there will be a good number of projects, practitioners... I encourage people to go there

Phil Archer: European Data Forum 2012 was a success... in this year also there will be a good number of projects, practitioners... I encourage people to go there

15:54:22 <sandro> everyone should double-check https://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my

Sandro Hawke: everyone should double-check https://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my

15:54:39 <DaveReynolds> Most issues are listed as "raised" rather than "open" but yes, I know all the ones that affect me :)

Dave Reynolds: Most issues are listed as "raised" rather than "open" but yes, I know all the ones that affect me :)

15:54:43 <olyerickson> I'm on

John Erickson: I'm on

15:54:53 <bhyland> @Sandro … is that a no so subtle hint? ;-)

Bernadette Hyland: @Sandro … is that a no so subtle hint? ;-)

15:55:15 <bhyland> When I look at my tracker, i see 10 items with my name...

Bernadette Hyland: When I look at my tracker, i see 10 items with my name...

15:55:25 <fadmaa> PhilA: danbri mentioned an extension to schema.org about dataset

Phil Archer: danbri mentioned an extension to schema.org about dataset

15:55:42 <bhyland> Topic: Schema.org datasets extent

6. Schema.org datasets extent

15:55:43 <PhilA> schema.org Datasets extension, see http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

Phil Archer: schema.org Datasets extension, see http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

15:55:46 <fadmaa> PhilA: it is similar to DCAT and ADMS and it is an important thing to keep an eye on

Phil Archer: it is similar to DCAT and ADMS and it is an important thing to keep an eye on

15:56:02 <bhyland> Per olyerickson, heavily influenced by DCAT

Bernadette Hyland: Per olyerickson, heavily influenced by DCAT

15:56:08 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:56:22 <fadmaa> olyerickson: the Dataset extension to schema.org is heavily influenced by DCAT

John Erickson: the Dataset extension to schema.org is heavily influenced by DCAT

15:56:46 <bhyland> … semi-open process, there is transparent process but ultimately search engines make final call

Bernadette Hyland: … semi-open process, there is transparent process but ultimately search engines make final call

15:57:06 <fadmaa> ... the extension mechanism of schema.org requires showing feasibility and usefulness of the extension before being adopted

... the extension mechanism of schema.org requires showing feasibility and usefulness of the extension before being adopted

15:57:09 <bhyland> … primary work done by Joshua @ RPI

Bernadette Hyland: … primary work done by Joshua @ RPI

15:57:44 <bhyland> … recommend people in this group monitor the public list for schema.org.

Bernadette Hyland: … recommend people in this group monitor the public list for schema.org.

15:57:46 <PhilA> Relevant mailing list is public-vocabs@w3.org

Phil Archer: Relevant mailing list is public-vocabs@w3.org

15:57:52 <bhyland> ta

Bernadette Hyland: ta

15:58:23 <bhyland> … vendors & gov't data publishers & consumers should all be paying attention to this as it evolves, and contribute!

Bernadette Hyland: … vendors & gov't data publishers & consumers should all be paying attention to this as it evolves, and contribute!

15:59:20 <BartvanLeeuwen> q?

Bart van Leeuwen: q?

16:00:49 <fadmaa> sandro: this group is charted to advice the world about consensus regarding what vocabularies peole should use. I'm still concerned about what to recommend DCAT or schema.org extension

Sandro Hawke: this group is charted to advice the world about consensus regarding what vocabularies people should use. I'm still concerned about what to recommend DCAT or schema.org extension

16:01:02 <fadmaa> s/peole/people/
16:01:05 <bhyland> sandro: This group is chartered to reflect the worldwide consensus on what gov't publishers  should use to mark up their content

Sandro Hawke: This group is chartered to reflect the worldwide consensus on what gov't publishers should use to mark up their content [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

16:01:25 <bhyland> … or ADMS or something else.

Bernadette Hyland: … or ADMS or something else.

16:02:13 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+

16:02:46 <bhyland> WG members options that gov publishers should use — it shouldn't be exclusive, rather inclusive.   Discussed RDFa Lite v1.1 to decorate their pages …

Bernadette Hyland: WG members options that gov publishers should use — it shouldn't be exclusive, rather inclusive. Discussed RDFa Lite v1.1 to decorate their pages …

16:02:50 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers

16:02:59 <fadmaa> olyerickson: I think people should use DCAT to publish their catalogs. they also need to use light RDFa to annotate their web pages. Using schema.org allows major search engines to index the structured data embedded

John Erickson: I think people should use DCAT to publish their catalogs. they also need to use light RDFa to annotate their web pages. Using schema.org allows major search engines to index the structured data embedded

16:03:09 <bhyland> ping - we're outta' time

Bernadette Hyland: ping - we're outta' time

16:03:18 <PhilA> q-

Phil Archer: q-

16:03:22 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

16:03:29 <fadmaa> olyerickson: the techniques are not exclusive in my opinion

John Erickson: the techniques are not exclusive in my opinion

16:04:13 <DaveReynolds> +1 to Sandro's comments, group will eventually have to give clear advice and there is an apparent conflict here

Dave Reynolds: +1 to Sandro's comments, group will eventually have to give clear advice and there is an apparent conflict here

16:04:18 <olyerickson> "RDFa Lite"

John Erickson: "RDFa Lite"

16:04:18 <Zakim> -Mike_Pendleton

Zakim IRC Bot: -Mike_Pendleton

16:04:19 <Zakim> -??P14

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P14

16:04:24 <olyerickson> Thanks everyone

John Erickson: Thanks everyone

16:04:24 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

16:04:26 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted

16:04:26 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

16:04:26 <Zakim> -james

Zakim IRC Bot: -james

16:04:27 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA

16:04:29 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks bhyland!

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks bhyland!

16:04:30 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds

16:04:30 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

16:04:32 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

16:04:34 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen

16:04:35 <Zakim> + +3858965aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +3858965aaee

16:04:40 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen

16:04:44 <Zakim> -fadmaa

Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa

16:04:45 <Zakim> -bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland

16:04:46 <Zakim> -agipap

Zakim IRC Bot: -agipap

16:04:53 <bhyland> Thanks everyone

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks everyone

16:05:55 <bhyland> rrsagent, set logs world-visible

Bernadette Hyland: rrsagent, set logs world-visible

16:06:02 <bhyland> rrsagent, generate minutes

Bernadette Hyland: rrsagent, generate minutes

16:06:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-gld-minutes.html bhyland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-gld-minutes.html bhyland

16:06:26 <bhyland> @Fadmaa - over to you now to publish.  If you have any questions, please ask.

Bernadette Hyland: @Fadmaa - over to you now to publish. If you have any questions, please ask.

16:06:30 <bhyland> Thank you for scribing!

Bernadette Hyland: Thank you for scribing!

16:08:12 <fadmaa> rrsagent, generate minutes

rrsagent, generate minutes

16:08:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-gld-minutes.html fadmaa

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-gld-minutes.html fadmaa

16:12:16 <bhyland> Thank you Fadi, looks good

Bernadette Hyland: Thank you Fadi, looks good



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