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13:58:21 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/23-gld-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/23-gld-irc ←
13:58:24 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting
Sandro Hawke: trackbot, start meeting ←
13:58:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
13:58:27 <bhyland> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120823
13:58:28 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be GLD ←
13:58:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes ←
13:58:29 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:58:29 <trackbot> Date: 23 August 2012
13:58:48 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
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13:58:55 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aaaa
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13:58:57 <Zakim> - +1.440.389.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.440.389.aaaa ←
13:58:58 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
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13:58:58 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.440.389.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.440.389.aaaa ←
13:59:02 <gatemezi> Meeting: Focus on Best Practices
13:59:08 <gatemezi> Chair:Bernadette
13:59:10 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started ←
13:59:11 <Zakim> +??P3
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3 ←
13:59:16 <gatemezi> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120823
13:59:21 <Zakim> +bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland ←
13:59:22 <gatemezi> Scribe:Ghislain
(Scribe set to Ghislain Atemezing)
13:59:23 <Zakim> -bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←
13:59:23 <Zakim> +bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland ←
13:59:33 <gatemezi> ScribeNick:gatemezi
13:59:55 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen ←
14:00:08 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aaaa ←
14:00:09 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is here?
Zakim, who is here? ←
14:00:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, +1.440.389.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P3, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, +1.440.389.aaaa ←
14:00:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro ←
14:00:14 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p3 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p3 is me ←
14:00:14 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
14:00:14 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is me
Hadley Beeman: zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:00:17 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it ←
14:00:31 <Zakim> +sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +sandro ←
14:00:49 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aabb ←
14:01:28 <Zakim> +George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: +George_Thomas ←
14:01:45 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←
14:01:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas ←
14:01:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro ←
14:02:17 <Zakim> +??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13 ←
14:02:29 <olyerickson> zakim, ?p13 is me.
John Erickson: zakim, ?p13 is me. ←
14:02:29 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named '?p13'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named '?p13' ←
14:02:42 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is talking
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is talking ←
14:02:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is talking', HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is talking', HadleyBeeman ←
14:02:42 <olyerickson> zakim, ??p13 is me.
John Erickson: zakim, ??p13 is me. ←
14:02:43 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:03:29 <Zakim> +cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri ←
14:04:39 <sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
14:04:39 <Zakim> + +3539149aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aacc ←
14:04:43 <bhyland> @Ghislain are you able to hear the call?
Bernadette Hyland: @Ghislain are you able to hear the call? ←
14:04:58 <sandro> zakim, aacc is Fadi
zakim, aacc is Fadi ←
14:04:58 <Zakim> +Fadi; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Fadi; got it ←
14:05:21 <sandro> gatemezi, I'm scribing until you get here.
gatemezi, I'm scribing until you get here. ←
14:05:22 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353 is fadmaa
Fadi Maali: Zakim, +353 is fadmaa ←
14:05:26 <Zakim> sorry, fadmaa, I do not recognize a party named '+353'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, fadmaa, I do not recognize a party named '+353' ←
14:05:30 <bhyland> Approve last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-08-16
Bernadette Hyland: Approve last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-08-16 ←
14:05:32 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here?
Fadi Maali: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:05:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, Fadi
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, Fadi ←
14:05:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see fadmaa, George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see fadmaa, George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, ←
14:05:37 <Zakim> ... sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... sandro ←
14:05:42 <gatemezi> @sandro : Thanks
Ghislain Atemezing: @sandro : Thanks ←
14:05:44 <fadmaa> Zakim, Fadi is fadmaa
Fadi Maali: Zakim, Fadi is fadmaa ←
14:05:45 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadmaa; got it ←
14:06:05 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aadd ←
14:06:06 <sandro> bhyland: F2F at TPAC? No.
Bernadette Hyland: F2F at TPAC? No. ←
14:06:06 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
14:06:12 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:06:34 <sandro> bhyland: If you're attending TPAC ...
Bernadette Hyland: If you're attending TPAC ... ←
14:06:51 <sandro> +1 I'm going to TPAC
+1 I'm going to TPAC ←
14:06:52 <HadleyBeeman> I'm planning to attend TPAC
Hadley Beeman: I'm planning to attend TPAC ←
14:07:05 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 be at TPAC
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 be at TPAC ←
14:07:19 <Zakim> + +1.267.481.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.267.481.aaee ←
14:07:23 <sandro> bhyland: My hope is that we make some progress -- using it as a deadline, a chance for some people to talk, maybe a chance to present.
Bernadette Hyland: My hope is that we make some progress -- using it as a deadline, a chance for some people to talk, maybe a chance to present. ←
14:07:30 <sandro> scribe: gatemezi
(Scribe set to Ghislain Atemezing)
14:07:36 <Zakim> +[LC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←
14:07:42 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←
14:07:42 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it ←
14:07:47 <luisBermudez> aaee is me
Luis Bermudez: aaee is me ←
14:07:50 <sandro> me
Sandro Hawke: me ←
14:07:53 <cygri> me
Richard Cyganiak: me ←
14:07:55 <gatemezi> ..plans to go for the TPAC
..plans to go for the TPAC ←
14:08:42 <gatemezi> sandro is going also for the TPAC...Somebody from DERI? @cygri for sure
sandro is going also for the TPAC...Somebody from DERI? @cygri for sure ←
14:08:54 <bhyland> People attending: Sandro, Bernadette, (Dave Wood), Hadley (maybe), Richard C,
Bernadette Hyland: People attending: Sandro, Bernadette, (Dave Wood), Hadley (maybe), Richard C, ←
14:09:27 <gatemezi> bhyland: Anyone form the Provenance Group going to TPAC?
Bernadette Hyland: Anyone form the Provenance Group going to TPAC? ←
14:09:32 <bhyland> TPAC Schedule: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/
Bernadette Hyland: TPAC Schedule: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/ ←
14:09:48 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/#GroupSchedule
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/#GroupSchedule ←
14:09:59 <olyerickson> Will there be a UnConference format again this year? If so, opportunity for GLD breakout...
John Erickson: Will there be a UnConference format again this year? If so, opportunity for GLD breakout... ←
14:10:36 <HadleyBeeman> my thought too, olyerickson
Hadley Beeman: my thought too, olyerickson ←
14:11:28 <olyerickson> Q+
John Erickson: Q+ ←
14:11:30 <gatemezi> bhyland: In TPAC has a lighthing session..should GLD stand up to speak this year ?
Bernadette Hyland: In TPAC has a lighthing session..should GLD stand up to speak this year ? ←
14:11:49 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:11:54 <bhyland> ack olyerickson
Bernadette Hyland: ack olyerickson ←
14:11:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:12:06 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:12:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, fadmaa (muted), +33.4.93.00.aadd,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, fadmaa (muted), +33.4.93.00.aadd, ←
14:12:10 <Zakim> ... +1.267.481.aaee, tinagheen, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.267.481.aaee, tinagheen, [IPcaller] ←
14:12:11 <Yigal> zakim, IPcaller is me.
Yigal Arens: zakim, IPcaller is me. ←
14:12:11 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it ←
14:12:32 <bhyland> zakim aabb is Mike_Pendleton
Bernadette Hyland: zakim aabb is Mike_Pendleton ←
14:12:47 <sandro> q?
Sandro Hawke: q? ←
14:12:56 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:12:58 <gatemezi> olyerickson: He attended in one TPAC some days ago...There is a way to do a breakout for GLD group
John Erickson: He attended in one TPAC some years ago...There is a way to do a breakout for GLD group ←
14:13:08 <bhyland> Olyerickson: Suggested we consider a breakout on GLD WG @ TPAC, if there is an extension available.
John Erickson: Suggested we consider a breakout on GLD WG @ TPAC, if there is an extension available. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:13:11 <gatemezi> s/days/years
14:14:17 <sandro> sandro: It looks like it will be unconf again: http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2012
Sandro Hawke: It looks like it will be unconf again: http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2012 [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:14:27 <gatemezi> HadleyBeeman: There is always a benefit to speak during the TPAC..
Hadley Beeman: There is always a benefit to speak during the TPAC.. ←
14:14:52 <olyerickson> @bhyland Note that PROV is pretty intense...
John Erickson: @bhyland Note that PROV is pretty intense... ←
14:15:40 <HadleyBeeman> q-
Hadley Beeman: q- ←
14:15:59 <sandro> sandro: We've given up on the idea of a 2-day meeting, but we could still do an unconference session on Wednesday (but as Hadley says, that would be lots of work to prepare)
Sandro Hawke: We've given up on the idea of a 2-day meeting, but we could still do an unconference session on Wednesday (but as Hadley says, that would be lots of work to prepare) [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:16:18 <sandro> [ and yet, unconference sessions are not supposed to take much work.... ? ]
Sandro Hawke: [ and yet, unconference sessions are not supposed to take much work.... ? ] ←
14:16:30 <bhyland> Review minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-08-16
Bernadette Hyland: Review minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-08-16 ←
14:16:33 <gatemezi> Topic: Review of the last minutes
14:16:36 <HadleyBeeman> Actually, sandro, I don't think it would need to be lots of work. I think we could organise a constructive dialogue with the rest of the community with what we have already.
Hadley Beeman: Actually, sandro, I don't think it would need to be lots of work. I think we could organise a constructive dialogue with the rest of the community with what we have already. ←
14:16:38 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:16:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
14:16:45 <bhyland> Accepted
Bernadette Hyland: Accepted ←
14:16:46 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:16:49 <gatemezi> +1
+1 ←
14:16:53 <Yigal> +1
Yigal Arens: +1 ←
14:16:59 <olyerickson> Not me!
John Erickson: Not me! ←
14:17:36 <gatemezi> Topic: Linked Data Glossary update..see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
14:17:40 <olyerickson> Zakim, mute everyone mod(bhyland)
John Erickson: Zakim, mute everyone mod(bhyland) ←
14:17:40 <Zakim> I don't understand 'mute everyone mod(bhyland)', olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'mute everyone mod(bhyland)', olyerickson ←
14:17:50 <sandro> gatemezi, is that you? +33.4.93.00.aadd
Sandro Hawke: gatemezi, is that you? +33.4.93.00.aadd ←
14:18:11 <sandro> zakim, aadd is gatemezi
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aadd is gatemezi ←
14:18:11 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi; got it ←
14:18:22 <gatemezi> Topic: Linked Data Glossary Update
14:18:31 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
14:18:33 <gatemezi> URL of the actual version: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
URL of the actual version: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html ←
14:18:50 <DaveReynolds> zakim, mute me
Dave Reynolds: zakim, mute me ←
14:18:50 <Zakim> DaveReynolds should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: DaveReynolds should now be muted ←
14:18:53 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.80.67.84.aaff ←
14:19:12 <gatemezi> bhyland: Is it better a Working Note or just a wiki page for LD glossary?
Bernadette Hyland: Is it better a Working Note or just a wiki page for LD glossary? ←
14:19:37 <bhyland> zakim aaff is Biplav
Bernadette Hyland: zakim aaff is Biplav ←
14:19:48 <sandro> zakim, aaff is Biplav
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaff is Biplav ←
14:19:48 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Biplav; got it ←
14:20:51 <sandro> bhyland: Please email me any changes you want to the glossary
Bernadette Hyland: Please email me any changes you want to the glossary [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:21:00 <gatemezi> bhyland: Could we have a look at the glossary and send mail to Ghislain or Bernadette for changing /adding items
Bernadette Hyland: Could we have a look at the glossary and send mail to Ghislain or Bernadette for changing /adding items ←
14:21:39 <gatemezi> ..we need to have some momentum as a group
..we need to have some momentum as a group ←
14:21:55 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:22:06 <olyerickson> Terms needed: Application, Mashup, Hackathon
John Erickson: Terms needed: Application, Mashup, Hackathon ←
14:22:12 <gatemezi> bhyland: Any question about that?
Bernadette Hyland: Any question about that? ←
14:22:45 <gatemezi> Topic: Best Practices effort
14:22:57 <olyerickson> Need abbreviations more prominent: SOA, SKOS, URI, HTML, HTTP,
John Erickson: Need abbreviations more prominent: SOA, SKOS, URI, HTML, HTTP, ←
14:23:19 <sandro> q+
Sandro Hawke: q+ ←
14:23:32 <gatemezi> bhyland: What is the actual status? What people are working on?
Bernadette Hyland: What is the actual status? What people are working on? ←
14:23:47 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:25:12 <gatemezi> sandro: Suggest for transition for review...
Sandro Hawke: Suggest for transition for review... ←
14:26:10 <gatemezi> bhyland feels that there is a need of more discussion in some parts of the document
bhyland feels that there is a need of more discussion in some parts of the document ←
14:26:28 <bhyland> Question for the group: What barriers or hurdles are you facing that the GLD should address in the Best Practices doc?
Bernadette Hyland: Question for the group: What barriers or hurdles are you facing that the GLD should address in the Best Practices doc? ←
14:26:34 <sandro> sandro: Let's have people start to note whether the right things are in this doc
Sandro Hawke: Let's have people start to note whether the right things are in this doc [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:26:59 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:27:19 <sandro> Mike_Pendleton: We're running into issues. Even DB experts / enterprise architects have trouble understanding what LD is and how it will help.
Michael Pendleton: We're running into issues. Even DB experts / enterprise architects have trouble understanding what LD is and how it will help. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:27:32 <sandro> q-
Sandro Hawke: q- ←
14:27:44 <gatemezi> Mike_Pendleton: People want to know what LD is, or what is the benefit of it
Michael Pendleton: People want to know what LD is, or what is the benefit of it ←
14:28:02 <bhyland> Mike_Pendleton: Running into fundamental issues related to the basics around Linked Data in the eyes of an experienced enterprise IT manager
Michael Pendleton: Running into fundamental issues related to the basics around Linked Data in the eyes of an experienced enterprise IT manager [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:28:06 <sandro> Mike_Pendleton: We've got a FAQ for these people; it's not quite BPs but might be useful.
Michael Pendleton: We've got a FAQ for these people; it's not quite BPs but might be useful. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:28:32 <bhyland> …. communicating the benefits so they could buy into it.
Bernadette Hyland: …. communicating the benefits so they could buy into it. ←
14:28:35 <tinagheen> @Mike_Pendleton - can you please share the document when it is out of draft, even if it is not included in Best Practices?
Tina Gheen: @Mike_Pendleton - can you please share the document when it is out of draft, even if it is not included in Best Practices? ←
14:29:02 <Mike_Pendleton> Sure
Michael Pendleton: Sure ←
14:29:09 <Mike_Pendleton> Happy to
Michael Pendleton: Happy to ←
14:29:20 <olyerickson> +1 to notion of Best Practices "FAQ"
John Erickson: +1 to notion of Best Practices "FAQ" ←
14:30:15 <olyerickson> RE Words to include in Glossary: Note my previous suggestions (above)
John Erickson: RE Words to include in Glossary: Note my previous suggestions (above) ←
14:31:25 <Biplav> q+
Biplav Srivastava: q+ ←
14:31:25 <gatemezi> @olyerickson: you mean SOA, SKOS, URI, HTML and HTTP?
@olyerickson: you mean SOA, SKOS, URI, HTML and HTTP? ←
14:32:45 <bhyland> Hadley: Gov't data is generally lots of small data that only have meaning when stitched together.
Hadley Beeman: Gov't data is generally lots of small data that only have meaning when stitched together. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:33:16 <olyerickson> Yes, and above that (Application, Mashup, Hackathon, etc)
John Erickson: Yes, and above that (Application, Mashup, Hackathon, etc) ←
14:33:19 <gatemezi> s/Hadley/HadleyBeeman
14:33:27 <bhyland> … Use terms that people are familiar with, cross reference terms in Wikipedia, to emphasis is not necessary new & maveric, it is tested & proven.
Bernadette Hyland: … Use terms that people are familiar with, cross reference terms in Wikipedia, to emphasis is not necessary new & maveric, it is tested & proven. ←
14:35:52 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
14:35:52 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:35:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q
Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←
14:35:56 <HadleyBeeman> q-
Hadley Beeman: q- ←
14:35:58 <gatemezi> bhyland: GLD could help in giving "meaning" aroud big data, huge data process, etc..
Bernadette Hyland: GLD could help in giving "meaning" aroud big data, huge data process, etc.. ←
14:36:43 <bhyland> Biplav: Practical issue people face when considering LOD is tooling that is available ...
Biplav Srivastava: Practical issue people face when considering LOD is tooling that is available ... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:36:57 <bhyland> … If we can make some suggestions around tooling, that would go a long way.
Bernadette Hyland: … If we can make some suggestions around tooling, that would go a long way. ←
14:37:50 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 for showcases
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 for showcases ←
14:38:38 <Mike_Pendleton> +1 Bernadette - we need to say where LOD fits in the Big Data paradigm (hitch our wagon to it because it has cache)
Michael Pendleton: +1 Bernadette - we need to say where LOD fits in the Big Data paradigm (hitch our wagon to it because it has cache) ←
14:38:38 <bhyland> … Community Directory is useful to let people interested in LD technology to locate it.
Bernadette Hyland: … Community Directory is useful to let people interested in LD technology to locate it. ←
14:38:42 <DaveReynolds> +1 to bhyland not appropriate for the WG to recommend specific tool chains
Dave Reynolds: +1 to bhyland not appropriate for the WG to recommend specific tool chains ←
14:38:46 <bhyland> … Tutorials would be helpful
Bernadette Hyland: … Tutorials would be helpful ←
14:39:38 <gatemezi> what abput just giving the links of the tutorials of the tools in ComDir?
what about just giving the links of the tutorials of the tools in ComDir? ←
14:39:48 <gatemezi> s/abput/about
14:40:10 <bhyland> … Example Biplav gave was transportation domain, how do we use technology to determine high level concepts for transportation …
Bernadette Hyland: … Example Biplav gave was transportation domain, how do we use technology to determine high level concepts for transportation … ←
14:41:41 <gatemezi> bhyland: encourages @biplav to send a mail to clarify all the ideas he has in main for the transportation domain
Bernadette Hyland: encourages @biplav to send a mail to clarify all the ideas he has in main for the transportation domain ←
14:41:45 <bhyland> … Biplav: answered questions like 'what is a vehicle?, what is a route?'
Bernadette Hyland: … Biplav: answered questions like 'what is a vehicle?, what is a route?' ←
14:41:57 <Mike_Pendleton> Jeff Hollister (US EPA) has attempted to quanitfy how LOD approaches will save money/time for his limnological (freshwater lakes) research efforts. We need pithy annecdotes to support our assertions about the benefits of LOD.
Michael Pendleton: Jeff Hollister (US EPA) has attempted to quanitfy how LOD approaches will save money/time for his limnological (freshwater lakes) research efforts. We need pithy annecdotes to support our assertions about the benefits of LOD. ←
14:43:10 <BartvanLeeuwen> -q
Bart van Leeuwen: -q ←
14:43:14 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:43:19 <bhyland> ack Biplav
Bernadette Hyland: ack Biplav ←
14:44:09 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:44:33 <DaveReynolds> ack me
Dave Reynolds: ack me ←
14:45:35 <gatemezi> DaveReynolds: Is the BP doc ready for reviewing ?
Dave Reynolds: Is the BP doc ready for reviewing ? ←
14:45:39 <Biplav> Agree with @Ghislain that links to tutorials will be helpful.
Biplav Srivastava: Agree with @Ghislain that links to tutorials will be helpful. ←
14:46:21 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:48:41 <gatemezi> Pragmatic Provenance URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#Pragmatic_Provenance
Pragmatic Provenance URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#Pragmatic_Provenance ←
14:48:52 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:49:16 <DaveReynolds> zakim, mute me
Dave Reynolds: zakim, mute me ←
14:49:16 <Zakim> DaveReynolds should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: DaveReynolds should now be muted ←
14:49:50 <gatemezi> Topic: Schedule update ?
14:50:29 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter ←
14:51:08 <gatemezi> bhyland : The chairs will contact the different editors for re-scheduling our WG
bhyland : The chairs will contact the different editors for re-scheduling our WG ←
14:51:17 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:52:08 <bhyland> Open discussion around selling LOD internally ...
Bernadette Hyland: Open discussion around selling LOD internally ... ←
14:52:18 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+
Bart van Leeuwen: q+ ←
14:52:39 <bhyland> Internal bias to use the technology & approaches that are known
Bernadette Hyland: Internal bias to use the technology & approaches that are known ←
14:52:59 <gatemezi> tinagheen: It could be benefit to show clearly the benefits of LOD in enterprises..
Tina Gheen: It could be benefit to show clearly the benefits of LOD in enterprises.. ←
14:53:05 <bhyland> Bart: He is seeing the same thing
Bart van Leeuwen: He is seeing the same thing [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:54:18 <bhyland> … every uses the Web to find things but when they need *authoritative* data, they're biased towards a traditional monolithic system
Bernadette Hyland: … every uses the Web to find things but when they need *authoritative* data, they're biased towards a traditional monolithic system ←
14:55:24 <bhyland> tinagheen: People are focused internally & their own content, rather than on linking to external data sets.
Tina Gheen: People are focused internally & their own content, rather than on linking to external data sets. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:55:57 <bhyland> George: We're seeing some convergence, beginning to see convergence of global name space, value of key:value pairs, they start to get it.
George Thomas: We're seeing some convergence, beginning to see convergence of global name space, value of key:value pairs, they start to get it. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:56:32 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q
Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←
14:56:47 <gatemezi> Zakim, who's here?
Zakim, who's here? ←
14:56:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, fadmaa (muted), gatemezi (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, fadmaa (muted), gatemezi (muted), ←
14:56:51 <Zakim> ... +1.267.481.aaee, tinagheen, Yigal, DaveReynolds (muted), Biplav
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.267.481.aaee, tinagheen, Yigal, DaveReynolds (muted), Biplav ←
14:56:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see Biplav, Yigal, tinagheen, luisBermudez, fadmaa, George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Biplav, Yigal, tinagheen, luisBermudez, fadmaa, George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, ←
14:56:52 <Zakim> ... BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro ←
14:57:06 <bhyland> … when you can show 'cooperation without coordination' it makes the case easier.
Bernadette Hyland: … when you can show 'cooperation without coordination' it makes the case easier. ←
14:57:43 <bhyland> Bart: It is tough to encapsulate that in a BP doc.
Bart van Leeuwen: It is tough to encapsulate that in a BP doc. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:58:06 <gatemezi> s/Bart/BartvanLeeuwen
14:59:29 <Zakim> - +1.267.481.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.267.481.aaee ←
14:59:33 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
15:00:07 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:00:15 <bhyland> ack olyerickson
Bernadette Hyland: ack olyerickson ←
15:00:28 <BartvanLeeuwen> q-
Bart van Leeuwen: q- ←
15:01:15 <bhyland> Olyerickson: There is something different in selling the Web 2.0 meme vs. Linked Data meme … there were a set of activities, a certain Web utilization model and Tim O'Reilly came up with a name & attributes for describing it.
John Erickson: There is something different in selling the Web 2.0 meme vs. Linked Data meme … there were a set of activities, a certain Web utilization model and Tim O'Reilly came up with a name & attributes for describing it. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:01:17 <gatemezi> Maybe we need more collaborative work (or porjects ) around LOD involving academics and enterprises..
Maybe we need more collaborative work (or porjects ) around LOD involving academics and enterprises.. ←
15:01:36 <bhyland> … this helped define the meme that entrepreneurs, VCs & developers understood.
Bernadette Hyland: … this helped define the meme that entrepreneurs, VCs & developers understood. ←
15:02:10 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is here?
Zakim, who is here? ←
15:02:11 <bhyland> … This helped define "labels" or buckets to understand what people were doing.
Bernadette Hyland: … This helped define "labels" or buckets to understand what people were doing. ←
15:02:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, fadmaa (muted), gatemezi (muted), tinagheen,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, sandro, +1.202.566.aabb, George_Thomas, olyerickson, cygri, fadmaa (muted), gatemezi (muted), tinagheen, ←
15:02:21 <Zakim> ... Yigal, DaveReynolds (muted), Biplav
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Yigal, DaveReynolds (muted), Biplav ←
15:02:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see Biplav, Yigal, tinagheen, luisBermudez, fadmaa, George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Biplav, Yigal, tinagheen, luisBermudez, fadmaa, George, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, olyerickson, Zakim, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, MacTed, ←
15:02:26 <Zakim> ... BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, cygri, trackbot, sandro ←
15:02:33 <bhyland> … In the case of Linked Data, there has been less organic pull, and thus less of organic rise of business models to propel the meme forward.
Bernadette Hyland: … In the case of Linked Data, there has been less organic pull, and thus less of organic rise of business models to propel the meme forward. ←
15:03:09 <bhyland> ack BartvanLeeuwen
Bernadette Hyland: ack BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:03:25 <olyerickson> zakim, excuse yourself... ;)
John Erickson: zakim, excuse yourself... ;) ←
15:03:25 <Zakim> I'm glad that smiley is there, olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I'm glad that smiley is there, olyerickson ←
15:04:01 <olyerickson> +1 to skidaddling... (sp?)
John Erickson: +1 to skidaddling... (sp?) ←
15:04:19 <olyerickson> Thanks bhyland
John Erickson: Thanks bhyland ←
15:04:21 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks, bhyland!
Hadley Beeman: Thanks, bhyland! ←
15:04:35 <gatemezi> bhyland: encourage editors to continue working on different docs
Bernadette Hyland: encourage editors to continue working on different docs ←
15:04:36 <BartvanLeeuwen> thanks bhyland !
Bart van Leeuwen: thanks bhyland ! ←
15:04:37 <bhyland> Thanks all!
Bernadette Hyland: Thanks all! ←
15:04:38 <olyerickson> Bye!
John Erickson: Bye! ←
15:04:38 <Biplav> Thanks bhyland!
Biplav Srivastava: Thanks bhyland! ←
15:04:40 <DaveReynolds> bye
Dave Reynolds: bye ←
15:04:40 <Zakim> - +1.202.566.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.566.aabb ←
15:04:42 <Zakim> -tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen ←
15:04:43 <gatemezi> Thanks all!
Thanks all! ←
15:04:43 <Zakim> -fadmaa
Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa ←
15:04:43 <Zakim> -George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Thomas ←
15:04:44 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
15:04:46 <BenediktKaempgen> Bye!
Benedikt Kaempgen: Bye! ←
15:04:47 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
15:04:48 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
15:04:51 <gatemezi> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
RRSAgent, set logs world-visible ←
15:04:52 <Zakim> -sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro ←
15:04:55 <bhyland> @Sandro, are you publishing the minutes?
Bernadette Hyland: @Sandro, are you publishing the minutes? ←
15:04:56 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
15:04:59 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
15:05:01 <Zakim> -Yigal
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal ←
15:05:01 <gatemezi> RRSAgent, generate minutes
RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
15:05:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/23-gld-minutes.html gatemezi
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/23-gld-minutes.html gatemezi ←
15:05:03 <Zakim> -bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←
15:05:04 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:05:15 <bhyland> Thanks Ghislain & Sandro for scribing, much appreciated!
Bernadette Hyland: Thanks Ghislain & Sandro for scribing, much appreciated! ←
15:05:20 <sandro> bhyland, that should be gatemezi 's job, but I can if necessary.
Sandro Hawke: bhyland, that should be gatemezi 's job, but I can if necessary. ←
15:05:41 <bhyland> sorry, I meant Ghislain … I didn't realize who was scribing at the end...
Bernadette Hyland: sorry, I meant Ghislain … I didn't realize who was scribing at the end... ←
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