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13:47:18 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/02/04-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/02/04-egov-irc ←
13:47:32 <josema> zakim, this will be egov
José Alonso: zakim, this will be egov ←
13:47:33 <Zakim> ok, josema; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes ←
13:49:25 <josema> agenda+ Appoint a scribe
José Alonso: agenda+ Appoint a scribe ←
13:49:40 <josema> agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments, new Members around?
José Alonso: agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments, new Members around? ←
13:50:02 <josema> agenda+ Open Actions
José Alonso: agenda+ Open Actions ←
13:50:10 <josema> agenda+ Editor's draft
José Alonso: agenda+ Editor's draft ←
13:50:20 <josema> agenda+ Graduating Use Cases
José Alonso: agenda+ Graduating Use Cases ←
13:50:29 <josema> agenda+ What's going on?
José Alonso: agenda+ What's going on? ←
13:50:43 <josema> agenda+ F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009) -- Status Update
José Alonso: agenda+ F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009) -- Status Update ←
13:51:01 <josema> agenda+ Use of Social Media tools for the Group's benefit and fun, too!
José Alonso: agenda+ Use of Social Media tools for the Group's benefit and fun, too! ←
13:51:11 <josema> agenda+ Next Meeting
José Alonso: agenda+ Next Meeting ←
13:51:13 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:56:54 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
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Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started ←
13:56:56 <josema> trackbot, start telcon
José Alonso: trackbot, start telcon ←
13:56:58 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
13:57:00 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV ←
13:57:01 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM already started ←
13:57:01 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
13:57:02 <trackbot> Date: 04 February 2009
13:57:02 <Zakim> + +1.202.449.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.449.aaaa ←
13:57:53 <Daniel_Bennett> new member here- Daniel Bennett - Washington, DC
Daniel Bennett: new member here- Daniel Bennett - Washington, DC ←
13:58:10 <Zakim> + +0203334aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0203334aabb ←
13:58:11 <josema> welcome, daniel!
José Alonso: welcome, daniel! ←
13:58:28 <Zakim> +Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←
13:59:17 <josema> zakim, aabb is john
José Alonso: zakim, aabb is john ←
13:59:17 <Zakim> +john; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +john; got it ←
13:59:43 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
13:59:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.449.aaaa, john, Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.202.449.aaaa, john, Josema ←
13:59:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot ←
14:00:12 <Zakim> + +1.509.464.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.464.aacc ←
14:00:37 <josema> zakim, aaaa is Daniel_Bennett
José Alonso: zakim, aaaa is Daniel_Bennett ←
14:00:37 <Zakim> +Daniel_Bennett; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Daniel_Bennett; got it ←
14:00:47 <josema> zakim, aacc is Rachel
José Alonso: zakim, aacc is Rachel ←
14:00:47 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel; got it ←
14:00:49 <Zakim> + +1.202.564.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.564.aadd ←
14:01:44 <Zakim> -Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←
14:01:55 <Zakim> + +1.301.455.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.455.aaee ←
14:02:11 <Zakim> +[CTIC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[CTIC] ←
14:02:22 <josema> zakim, [CTIC] is me
José Alonso: zakim, [CTIC] is me ←
14:02:22 <Zakim> +josema; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +josema; got it ←
14:02:38 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
14:02:50 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
14:02:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, john, Rachel, +1.202.564.aadd, +1.301.455.aaee, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, john, Rachel, +1.202.564.aadd, +1.301.455.aaee, josema ←
14:02:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot ←
14:06:55 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
14:07:13 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
José Alonso: zakim, take up next agendum ←
14:07:13 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Appoint a scribe" taken up [from josema]
14:08:14 <josema> scribe: josema
(Scribe set to José Alonso)
14:08:31 <josema> zakim, take upo next agendum
zakim, take upo next agendum ←
14:08:31 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take upo next agendum', josema
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'take upo next agendum', josema ←
14:08:35 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
14:08:35 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Convene, agenda adjustments, new Members around?" taken up [from josema]
14:08:41 <josema> john: any additions?
John Sheridan: any additions? ←
14:08:48 <josema> [none heard]
[none heard] ←
14:09:07 <josema> john: Daniel, can you introduce yourself?
John Sheridan: Daniel, can you introduce yourself? ←
14:09:31 <josema> daniel: based in DC, working on Internet communication and standards since 1993
Daniel Bennett: based in DC, working on Internet communication and standards since 1993 ←
14:09:49 <josema> ... former co-chair of Legislative XML? at OASIS
... former co-chair of Legislative XML? at OASIS ←
14:10:58 <john> good idea
John Sheridan: good idea ←
14:11:31 <josema> zakim, who's here?
zakim, who's here? ←
14:11:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, john, Rachel, +1.202.564.aadd, +1.301.455.aaee, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, john, Rachel, +1.202.564.aadd, +1.301.455.aaee, josema ←
14:11:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see ocr, Owen, Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ocr, Owen, Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot ←
14:12:59 <Daniel_Bennett> jose, where is the log?
Daniel Bennett: jose, where is the log? ←
14:13:14 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
rrsagent, draft minutes ←
14:13:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/04-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/04-egov-minutes.html josema ←
14:14:39 <josema> Brand: just joined the Group, co-Chairing federal community on data interoperability
Scribe problem: the name 'Brand' does not match any of the 40 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett David Osimo Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Brand: just joined the Group, co-Chairing federal community on data interoperability ←
14:15:06 <josema> ... we are organizing a conference with international speakers, everybody interested drop me a note
... we are organizing a conference with international speakers, everybody interested drop me a note ←
14:15:13 <josema> zakim, aaee is Owen
zakim, aaee is Owen ←
14:15:13 <Zakim> +Owen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Owen; got it ←
14:15:16 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:15:38 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:17:16 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
14:17:16 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Open Actions" taken up [from josema]
14:17:49 <josema> [http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open]
[http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open] ←
14:18:14 <josema> [john gives some context for new Members]
[john gives some context for new Members] ←
14:19:50 <josema> [19 open actions]
[19 open actions] ←
14:20:04 <josema> ACTION-3 ?
14:20:04 <trackbot> ACTION-3 -- Kevin Novak to get in touch with AIIM and ASCX12 -- due 2009-01-05 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-3 -- Kevin Novak to get in touch with AIIM and ASCX12 -- due 2009-01-05 -- OPEN ←
14:20:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/3
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/3 ←
14:20:17 <josema> ACTION-14 ?
14:20:17 <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- John Sheridan to share how he justified the business decision of becoming W3C Members -- due 2008-10-30 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-14 -- John Sheridan to share how he justified the business decision of becoming W3C Members -- due 2008-10-30 -- OPEN ←
14:20:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/14
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/14 ←
14:21:11 <josema> john: this one is important and I also encourage others to think about
John Sheridan: this one is important and I also encourage others to think about ←
14:21:22 <josema> action-15
14:21:25 <josema> action-15?
14:21:25 <trackbot> ACTION-15 -- Martin Mollema to elaborate on what exists wrt 7. Identification and Authentication (G2C) -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-15 -- Martin Mollema to elaborate on what exists wrt 7. Identification and Authentication (G2C) -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:21:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/15
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/15 ←
14:21:35 <Zakim> + +1.202.488.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.488.aaff ←
14:21:41 <josema> john: martin changed jobs and is about to leave the Group
John Sheridan: martin changed jobs and is about to leave the Group ←
14:21:45 <josema> zakim, aaff is chris
zakim, aaff is chris ←
14:21:45 <Zakim> +chris; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +chris; got it ←
14:22:07 <josema> john: anybody want to take responsibility for this one?
John Sheridan: anybody want to take responsibility for this one? ←
14:22:17 <josema> chris: I have interest and background
Daniel Bennett: I have interest and background ←
14:22:41 <josema> q+ to talk about use cases vs. group note
q+ to talk about use cases vs. group note ←
14:23:11 <chris> yes, apologies for joining late
Christopher Testa: yes, apologies for joining late ←
14:23:38 <Daniel_Bennett> will work on http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/15 -Daniel
Daniel Bennett: will work on http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/15 -Daniel ←
14:24:15 <josema> trackbot, comment action-15 dainel to review
trackbot, comment ACTION-15 dainel to review ←
14:24:15 <trackbot> ACTION-15 Elaborate on what exists wrt 7. Identification and Authentication (G2C) notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-15 Elaborate on what exists wrt 7. Identification and Authentication (G2C) notes added ←
14:24:44 <josema> action-19
14:24:46 <josema> action-19?
14:24:46 <trackbot> ACTION-19 -- Martin Mollema to find use case for number 9. your web site is your API -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-19 -- Martin Mollema to find use case for number 9. your web site is your API -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:24:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/19
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/19 ←
14:24:51 <josema> action-20?
14:24:51 <trackbot> ACTION-20 -- John Sheridan to help with use case for number 9. your web site is your API -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-20 -- John Sheridan to help with use case for number 9. your web site is your API -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:24:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/20
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/20 ←
14:25:09 <josema> s/chris/daniel
14:25:18 <josema> john: I can take these two
John Sheridan: I can take these two ←
14:25:26 <josema> daniel: can also help
Daniel Bennett: can also help ←
14:25:38 <josema> action-21
14:25:40 <josema> action-21?
14:25:40 <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- John Sheridan to find people within the organization to build use case to illustrate 5. Digital Preservation + Authenticity + Temporal Degradation -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-21 -- John Sheridan to find people within the organization to build use case to illustrate 5. Digital Preservation + Authenticity + Temporal Degradation -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:25:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/21
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/21 ←
14:25:44 <josema> leave open
leave open, too ←
14:25:50 <josema> s/open/open, too
14:26:01 <josema> action-22?
14:26:01 <trackbot> ACTION-22 -- to find use case on 6. I.P. Expression unassigned -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-22 -- to find use case on 6. I.P. Expression unassigned -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:26:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/22
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/22 ←
14:26:04 <josema> action-23?
14:26:04 <trackbot> ACTION-23 -- to find use case for 4. Data Sharing Policy Expression -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-23 -- to find use case for 4. Data Sharing Policy Expression -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:26:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/23
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/23 ←
14:26:07 <josema> action-24?
14:26:07 <trackbot> ACTION-24 -- Oscar Azanon Esteire to elaborate on what exists wrt 7. Identification and Authentication (G2C) -- due 2008-11-12 -- CLOSED
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-24 -- Oscar Azanon Esteire to elaborate on what exists wrt 7. Identification and Authentication (G2C) -- due 2008-11-12 -- CLOSED ←
14:26:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/24
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/24 ←
14:26:20 <josema> q?
q? ←
14:26:42 <john> ack jose
John Sheridan: ack jose ←
14:26:42 <Zakim> josema, you wanted to talk about use cases vs. group note
Zakim IRC Bot: josema, you wanted to talk about use cases vs. group note ←
14:27:51 <josema> josema: most actions on use cases, given the group note development, would it be better to put the effort there?
José Alonso: most actions on use cases, given the group note development, would it be better to put the effort there? ←
14:28:21 <josema> john: step one could be to post thoughts to the listserv as a place to start
John Sheridan: step one could be to post thoughts to the listserv as a place to start ←
14:28:38 <josema> ... maybe we could turn the actions into posting something to the Group
... maybe we could turn the actions into posting something to the Group ←
14:28:46 <josema> ... any thoughts?
... any thoughts? ←
14:28:49 <josema> [none heard]
[none heard] ←
14:28:55 <josema> action-27?
14:28:55 <trackbot> ACTION-27 -- Benjamin Nguyen to work on 12. Temporal Data: legislation/legal and geospatial -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-27 -- Benjamin Nguyen to work on 12. Temporal Data: legislation/legal and geospatial -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:28:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/27
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/27 ←
14:29:20 <josema> action-28?
14:29:20 <trackbot> ACTION-28 -- John Sheridan to work on 12. Temporal Data: legislation/legal and geospatial -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-28 -- John Sheridan to work on 12. Temporal Data: legislation/legal and geospatial -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:29:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/28
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/28 ←
14:29:24 <josema> action-29?
14:29:24 <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- John Sheridan to work on 3. Performance Data and Citizen Choice -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-29 -- John Sheridan to work on 3. Performance Data and Citizen Choice -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:29:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/29
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/29 ←
14:29:40 <josema> action-31?
14:29:40 <trackbot> ACTION-31 -- José Manuel Alonso to find route for SEMIC.EU to be engaged in the IG and provide cases for 1. Semantic Interoperability -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-31 -- José Manuel Alonso to find route for SEMIC.EU to be engaged in the IG and provide cases for 1. Semantic Interoperability -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:29:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/31
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/31 ←
14:29:46 <josema> action-32?
14:29:46 <trackbot> ACTION-32 -- José Manuel Alonso to talk to the DBPedia/LOD people/Ivan Herman about using the Linked Data/DBPedia approach for 10. What Data? -- due 2008-11-02 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-32 -- José Manuel Alonso to talk to the DBPedia/LOD people/Ivan Herman about using the Linked Data/DBPedia approach for 10. What Data? -- due 2008-11-02 -- OPEN ←
14:29:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/32
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/32 ←
14:30:22 <josema> action-34?
14:30:22 <trackbot> ACTION-34 -- Anne Washington to document "Handle" use for THOMAS as use case for 2.Persistent URIs -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-34 -- Anne Washington to document "Handle" use for THOMAS as use case for 2.Persistent URIs -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN ←
14:30:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/34
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/34 ←
14:30:49 <Zakim> -Brand
Scribe problem: the name 'Brand' does not match any of the 40 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett David Osimo Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand ←
14:30:51 <josema> john: anne and me have been exchanging private email about this and our projects in the UK and USA
John Sheridan: anne and me have been exchanging private email about this and our projects in the UK and USA ←
14:31:24 <josema> ??: I can help with that
??: I can help with that ←
14:31:35 <josema> action-36?
14:31:35 <trackbot> ACTION-36 -- John Sheridan to post and ask around about 4, 6, 13 -- due 2008-11-19 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-36 -- John Sheridan to post and ask around about 4, 6, 13 -- due 2008-11-19 -- OPEN ←
14:31:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/36
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/36 ←
14:31:41 <josema> action-42?
14:31:41 <trackbot> ACTION-42 -- Rachel Flagg to provide use case on social media -- due 2009-01-28 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-42 -- Rachel Flagg to provide use case on social media -- due 2009-01-28 -- OPEN ←
14:31:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/42
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/42 ←
14:32:30 <josema> [john on our position paper: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/msnws/papers/egov-social-ws]
[john on our position paper: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/msnws/papers/egov-social-ws] ←
14:32:50 <josema> rachel: if there's another W3C Group working on this we should just coordinate
Rachel Flagg: if there's another W3C Group working on this we should just coordinate ←
14:33:11 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2008/09/msnws/report social networks workshop report
->http://www.w3.org/2008/09/msnws/report social networks workshop report ←
14:36:14 <josema> [http://esw.w3.org/topic/SocialWebXGCharter]
[http://esw.w3.org/topic/SocialWebXGCharter] ←
14:36:21 <josema> daniel: [missed]
Daniel Bennett: some specific eGov issues can be missed from there eg. jurisdictions and ?? ←
14:36:49 <josema> owen: ?? in the US about record keeping and more specific egv stuff
Owen Ambur: ?? in the US about record keeping and more specific egv stuff ←
14:37:32 <josema> s/[missed]/some specific eGov issues can be missed from there eg. jurisdictions and ??
14:38:22 <josema> john: I think this is getting increasingly important and there are things we must want to say
John Sheridan: I think this is getting increasingly important and there are things we must want to say ←
14:38:38 <josema> ... raise with them our particular eGov issues
... raise with them our particular eGov issues ←
14:38:52 <Owen> In the US some .gov agencies are blocking access to social media sites due to security and record-keeping concerns.
Owen Ambur: In the US some .gov agencies are blocking access to social media sites due to security and record-keeping concerns. ←
14:39:05 <Daniel_Bennett> the general w3c social network group misses the need for political jurisdiction being added to XFN, FOAF, etc
Daniel Bennett: the general w3c social network group misses the need for political jurisdiction being added to XFN, FOAF, etc ←
14:39:46 <josema> josema: we can invite Dom to discuss more in detail, he coordinates this area at W3C
José Alonso: we can invite Dom to discuss more in detail, he coordinates this area at W3C ←
14:39:50 <Owen> Other groups considering social media more generically may not focus on government-specific policy issues.
Owen Ambur: Other groups considering social media more generically may not focus on government-specific policy issues. ←
14:39:54 <josema> john: I think it's a very hot topic
John Sheridan: I think it's a very hot topic ←
14:40:03 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:40:33 <josema> daniel: not anything in the agenda abut standards to communicate with governments using this technology?
Daniel Bennett: not anything in the agenda abut standards to communicate with governments using this technology? ←
14:41:13 <josema> john: in terms of where we go is more about how government is increasing the use of social media channels
John Sheridan: in terms of where we go is more about how government is increasing the use of social media channels ←
14:41:44 <josema> [john on http://poit.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/]
[john on http://poit.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/] ←
14:41:45 <john> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7867285.stm
John Sheridan: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7867285.stm ←
14:42:29 <josema> john: different way of doing things, opening up for comments, communicating better with people
John Sheridan: different way of doing things, opening up for comments, communicating better with people ←
14:43:03 <josema> ... the report was published both, a more social media approach and a regular one
... the report was published both, a more social media approach and a regular one ←
14:43:51 <josema> rachel: we also have a group focusing on social media
Rachel Flagg: we also have a group focusing on social media ←
14:43:59 <josema> .. will try to have one of the co-Chairs attending the F2F
... will try to have one of the co-Chairs attending the F2F ←
14:44:07 <josema> s/../...
14:44:15 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:45:08 <josema> rachel: interest on us producing a use case?
Rachel Flagg: interest on us producing a use case? ←
14:45:11 <josema> josema: yes
José Alonso: yes ←
14:45:13 <josema> john: yes
John Sheridan: yes ←
14:45:22 <josema> +1000 !
+1000 ! ←
14:45:37 <Daniel_Bennett> daniel: yes
Daniel Bennett: yes [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:45:54 <josema> daniel: yes
Daniel Bennett: yes ←
14:46:42 <josema> rachel: I will extend an invitation to ?? at EPA to attend F2F
Rachel Flagg: I will extend an invitation to ?? at EPA to attend F2F ←
14:46:59 <josema> owen: I also know one of the people involved?? I tell him to coordinate
Owen Ambur: I also know one of the people involved?? I tell him to coordinate ←
14:47:11 <josema> action-43?
14:47:11 <trackbot> ACTION-43 -- Rachel Flagg to provide use case on \"plain language\" -- due 2009-01-28 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-43 -- Rachel Flagg to provide use case on \"plain language\" -- due 2009-01-28 -- OPEN ←
14:47:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/43
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/43 ←
14:47:18 <josema> rachel: this one is almost done
Rachel Flagg: this one is almost done ←
14:47:36 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
14:47:36 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Editor's draft" taken up [from josema]
14:48:00 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/Group/docs/note Group Note
->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/Group/docs/note Group Note ←
14:48:13 <john> I'll scribe for this bit
John Sheridan: I'll scribe for this bit ←
14:48:31 <john> most complete section is Open Gov Data
John Sheridan: most complete section is Open Gov Data ←
14:48:45 <Owen> I know one of EPA's records officers. Will ask her to coordinate with Jeffry Levy with respect to the social media use case.
Owen Ambur: I know one of EPA's records officers. Will ask her to coordinate with Jeffry Levy with respect to the social media use case. ←
14:49:23 <john> structure of doc: into (Kevin), modalities (John), 6 topic areas
John Sheridan: structure of doc: intro (Kevin), modalities (John), 6 topic areas ←
14:49:31 <john> s/into/intro
14:50:24 <john> structure agreed some months ag0 - aim to have first draft done by next Monday, then suggestions from Group, then freeze at end of Feb
John Sheridan: structure agreed some months ag0 - aim to have first draft done by next Monday, then suggestions from Group, then freeze at end of Feb ←
14:50:34 <Owen> The US Fed Web Managers Council's paper on social media is available at http://www.usa.gov/webcontent/documents/SocialMediaFed%20Govt_BarriersPotentialSolutions.pdf
Owen Ambur: The US Fed Web Managers Council's paper on social media is available at http://www.usa.gov/webcontent/documents/SocialMediaFed%20Govt_BarriersPotentialSolutions.pdf ←
14:50:44 <john> aim to publish week before F2F in March
John Sheridan: aim to publish week before F2F in March ←
14:52:41 <josema> john: if some others are interested in contributing, just please say so
John Sheridan: if some others are interested in contributing, just please say so ←
14:52:59 <josema> ... please review the six sections and say so, anyone?
... please review the six sections and say so, anyone? ←
14:54:55 <josema> josema: on that it's not required to do _everything_ for the FPWD
José Alonso: on that it's not required to do _everything_ for the FPWD ←
14:55:17 <josema> rachel: I can help with Participation?
Rachel Flagg: I can help with Participation?? ←
14:55:23 <josema> s/?/??
14:55:29 <josema> daniel: me, too ??
Daniel Bennett: me, too ?? ←
14:55:36 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:55:49 <josema> john: what about interop?
John Sheridan: what about interop? ←
14:56:31 <josema> john: multi-channel
John Sheridan: multi-channel ←
14:56:44 <josema> john: id & auth?
John Sheridan: id & auth? ←
14:56:51 <josema> daniel: I can volunteer to do this one
Daniel Bennett: I can volunteer to do this one ←
14:56:56 <josema> .. .timeline?
...timeline? ←
14:57:18 <josema> s/.. ./...
14:59:47 <josema> [jose on timeline and differences between FPWD and final doc]
[jose on timeline and differences between FPWD and final doc] ←
14:59:59 <josema> chris: I can do the long term one
Christopher Testa: I can do the long term one ←
15:00:23 <josema> john: important message for us to convey is that open standards are key to acheive it
John Sheridan: important message for us to convey is that open standards are key to acheive it ←
15:04:43 <josema> RESOLUTION: 25 February is deadline to provide content for the FPWD
RESOLVED: 25 February is deadline to provide content for the FPWD ←
15:04:48 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
15:04:57 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
15:04:57 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Graduating Use Cases" taken up [from josema]
15:05:31 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/UseCases/doc/how-does-it-work Use Cases
->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/UseCases/doc/how-does-it-work Use Cases ←
15:07:31 <josema> [working on that, almost done, will ping the Group later in time when ready]
[working on that, almost done, will ping the Group later in time when ready] ←
15:07:33 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
15:07:33 <Zakim> agendum 6. "What's going on?" taken up [from josema]
15:07:48 <josema> [[+ Obama Memo: "Transparency and Open Government"
[[+ Obama Memo: "Transparency and Open Government" ←
15:07:48 <josema> http://www.govexec.com/execorders/opengov012109.pdf
http://www.govexec.com/execorders/opengov012109.pdf ←
15:07:48 <josema> + Beta version of UK POI TF Report released
+ Beta version of UK POI TF Report released ←
15:07:49 <josema> http://poit.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/poit/
http://poit.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/poit/ ←
15:07:49 <josema> + debrief of recent UK Barcamp
+ debrief of recent UK Barcamp ←
15:07:49 <josema> http://www.ukgovweb.org/
15:07:51 <josema> + upcoming US barcamps
+ upcoming US barcamps ←
15:07:53 <josema> http://transparencycamp.eventbrite.com
http://transparencycamp.eventbrite.com ←
15:07:55 <josema> http://barcamp.org/Government20Camp
http://barcamp.org/Government20Camp ←
15:07:57 <josema> + ePractice "Public Services 2.0" workshop
+ ePractice "Public Services 2.0" workshop ←
15:07:59 <josema> http://www.epractice.eu/workshop/40
http://www.epractice.eu/workshop/40 ←
15:08:01 <josema> ]]
]] ←
15:08:42 <josema> john: at the barcamp two main issues where OGD and government use of social media
John Sheridan: at the barcamp two main issues where OGD and government use of social media ←
15:09:02 <josema> ... same main topics as in the POI report
... same main topics as in the POI report ←
15:09:42 <josema> ... is that other people's experience wrt importance of the topics?
... is that other people's experience wrt importance of the topics? ←
15:10:52 <josema> chris: those are very key, and I have Obama's memo on my hand now
Christopher Testa: those are very key, and I have Obama's memo on my hand now ←
15:11:31 <josema> ... [missed]
... [missed] ←
15:12:06 <josema> daniel: [missed2]
Daniel Bennett: [missed2] ←
15:12:46 <josema> rachel: huge issues for us here??
Rachel Flagg: huge issues for us here?? ←
15:13:13 <josema> chris: "digital natives" have different expectations and are becoming a big piece of the workforce and the culture
Christopher Testa: "digital natives" have different expectations and are becoming a big piece of the workforce and the culture ←
15:13:35 <Daniel_Bennett> daniel: the issues of Open Data Standards for Gov and Social Networking is very big, but they subsume many other issues
Daniel Bennett: the issues of Open Data Standards for Gov and Social Networking is very big, but they subsume many other issues [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
15:13:35 <josema> john: do you think that we are entering a new era in 2009 wrt these two issues?
John Sheridan: do you think that we are entering a new era in 2009 wrt these two issues? ←
15:13:42 <josema> rachel: absolutely
Rachel Flagg: absolutely ←
15:14:03 <josema> ... they are getting huge ??
... they are getting huge ?? ←
15:14:57 <josema> daniel: one more thing, not all forms of communication have to do with the Web
Daniel Bennett: one more thing, not all forms of communication have to do with the Web ←
15:15:14 <josema> rachel: good point, also about getting access to the technology ??
Rachel Flagg: good point, also about getting access to the technology ?? ←
15:16:13 <Daniel_Bennett> daniel: does the use of phones/SMS/iphone/WAP come up for this group.
Daniel Bennett: does the use of phones/SMS/iphone/WAP come up for this group. [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
15:16:37 <Daniel_Bennett> no, iphone here. Google's Android instead
Daniel Bennett: no, iphone here. Google's Android instead ←
15:16:47 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
15:16:47 <Zakim> agendum 7. "F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009) -- Status Update" taken up [from josema]
15:17:08 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/F2F2 F2F2
->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/F2F2 F2F2 ←
15:21:16 <josema> [josema on how the F2F is being prepared]
[josema on how the F2F is being prepared] ←
15:21:48 <josema> daniel: any formal invitation to folks in the legislative branch of the US gov ??
Daniel Bennett: any formal invitation to folks in the legislative branch of the US gov ?? ←
15:21:51 <josema> josema: nope
José Alonso: nope ←
15:22:17 <josema> john: in terms of Group's work and topics of interest for the community
John Sheridan: in terms of Group's work and topics of interest for the community ←
15:22:35 <josema> ... I think the first two issues are the most attractive
... I think the first two issues are the most attractive ←
15:23:11 <josema> chris: +1 to focus on those and build on the memo
Christopher Testa: +1 to focus on those and build on the memo ←
15:23:28 <josema> daniel: how participation is different from OGD?
Daniel Bennett: how participation is different from OGD? ←
15:23:36 <josema> chris: goes across ??
Christopher Testa: goes across ?? ←
15:24:07 <josema> john: participation for me is one of the outcomes you achieve when using things like social media tools
John Sheridan: participation for me is one of the outcomes you achieve when using things like social media tools ←
15:24:35 <josema> ... transparency, openness are also key things government try to accomplish
... transparency, openness are also key things government try to accomplish ←
15:24:56 <john> agenda?
John Sheridan: agenda? ←
15:25:23 <josema> take up next agendum
take up next agendum ←
15:25:53 <josema> dainel: I miss standardization and metadata in OGD agenda item
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Unknown dainel: I miss standardization and metadata in OGD agenda item ←
15:25:59 <Daniel_Bennett> suggesting adding metadata to Open Gov Data list on F2F
Daniel Bennett: suggesting adding metadata to Open Gov Data list on F2F ←
15:26:06 <Daniel_Bennett> tnx
Daniel Bennett: tnx ←
15:26:48 <josema> john: opening up the topic
John Sheridan: opening up the topic ←
15:26:55 <josema> rachel: I'm all for that
Rachel Flagg: I'm all for that ←
15:26:58 <josema> chris: +1
Christopher Testa: +1 ←
15:27:29 <Daniel_Bennett> daniel: +1
Daniel Bennett: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
15:28:41 <john> we need a #tag
John Sheridan: we need a #tag ←
15:28:58 <john> for everything - twitter, flickr, youtube etc
John Sheridan: for everything - twitter, flickr, youtube etc ←
15:29:16 <Daniel_Bennett> suggestion #w3cigegov
Daniel Bennett: suggestion #w3cigegov ←
15:29:58 <john> what about just #egov? or too cheeky?
John Sheridan: what about just #egov? or too cheeky? ←
15:30:42 <john> exactly - w3c is like a gov
John Sheridan: exactly - w3c is like a gov ←
15:30:56 <john> it has its ideas about whats good for us
John Sheridan: it has its ideas about whats good for us ←
15:31:44 <josema> [on how this is already affecting the governments]
[on how this is already affecting the governments] ←
15:32:06 <john> ecosystem of official avenues and other places
John Sheridan: ecosystem of official avenues and other places ←
15:33:01 <Daniel_Bennett> our use of Facebook, Twitter, etc should mirror what is on the group's site and wiki
Daniel Bennett: our use of Facebook, Twitter, etc should mirror what is on the group's site and wiki ←
15:33:10 <josema> owen: we need to be clear on the vision, government records should be posted in publicly readily shareable formats
Owen Ambur: we need to be clear on the vision, government records should be posted in publicly readily shareable formats ←
15:33:26 <Daniel_Bennett> which probably reflect what government should also do
Daniel Bennett: which probably reflect what government should also do ←
15:33:37 <josema> chris: I think that's the goal, more about syndication
Christopher Testa: I think that's the goal, more about syndication ←
15:34:05 <josema> [all agree about using those channels beside W3C's]
[all agree about using those channels beside W3C's] ←
15:35:01 <josema> john: anything else to add?
John Sheridan: anything else to add? ←
15:35:11 <josema> [nothing heard]
[nothing heard] ←
15:35:21 <Zakim> -Owen
Zakim IRC Bot: -Owen ←
15:35:22 <josema> [ADJoURNED]
[ADJOURNED] ←
15:35:23 <Zakim> -chris
Zakim IRC Bot: -chris ←
15:35:24 <Zakim> -Rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel ←
15:35:25 <Zakim> -Daniel_Bennett
Zakim IRC Bot: -Daniel_Bennett ←
15:35:34 <Daniel_Bennett> bye all
Daniel Bennett: bye all ←
15:35:41 <josema> s/[ADJoURNED]/[ADJOURNED]
15:38:13 <josema> zakim, who's here?
zakim, who's here? ←
15:38:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see john, josema, oscar
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see john, josema, oscar ←
15:38:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see ocr, Owen, Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ocr, Owen, Rachel, john, RRSAgent, Zakim, Daniel_Bennett, josema, darobin, trackbot ←
15:38:50 <josema> zakim, drop oscar
zakim, drop oscar ←
15:38:50 <Zakim> oscar is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: oscar is being disconnected ←
15:38:51 <Zakim> -oscar
Zakim IRC Bot: -oscar ←
15:39:06 <Zakim> -josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -josema ←
15:39:07 <Zakim> -john
Zakim IRC Bot: -john ←
15:39:07 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←
15:39:08 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.202.449.aaaa, +0203334aabb, Josema, john, +1.509.464.aacc, Daniel_Bennett, Rachel, +1.202.564.aadd, +1.301.455.aaee, Brand, Owen, oscar, +1.202.488.aaff, chris
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.202.449.aaaa, +0203334aabb, Josema, john, +1.509.464.aacc, Daniel_Bennett, Rachel, +1.202.564.aadd, +1.301.455.aaee, Brand, Owen, oscar, +1.202.488.aaff, chris ←
15:40:13 <josema> list attendees
list attendees ←
15:40:17 <josema> zakim, list attendees
zakim, list attendees ←
15:40:17 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is ←
15:40:26 <josema> rrsagent, draf minutes
rrsagent, draf minutes ←
15:40:26 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draf minutes', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'draf minutes', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
15:40:30 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:40:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/04-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/04-egov-minutes.html josema ←
17:11:11 <josema> zakim, bye
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17:11:15 <josema> rrsagent, bye
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17:11:15 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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