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12:56:25 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-irc ←
12:56:27 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
12:56:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV ←
12:56:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←
12:56:30 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
12:56:30 <trackbot> Date: 03 September 2008
12:56:51 <josema> agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments
José Alonso: agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments ←
12:57:01 <josema> agenda+ Introductions - new people onboard
José Alonso: agenda+ Introductions - new people onboard ←
12:57:14 <josema> agenda+ Review of open action items
José Alonso: agenda+ Review of open action items ←
12:57:26 <josema> agenda+ Face to Face Meeting
José Alonso: agenda+ Face to Face Meeting ←
12:57:42 <josema> agenda+ Compilation of Use Cases + Group Outline
José Alonso: agenda+ Compilation of Use Cases + Group Outline ←
12:57:44 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started ←
12:57:51 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
Zakim IRC Bot: +Katie_Haritos-Shea ←
12:58:01 <josema> agenda+ Group Activity Plan
José Alonso: agenda+ Group Activity Plan ←
12:58:15 <josema> agenda+ Liaisons: review
José Alonso: agenda+ Liaisons: review ←
12:58:21 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
12:58:36 <Zakim> +Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←
12:59:48 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
13:00:13 <Zakim> -??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P9 ←
13:00:33 <Zakim> + +1.301.455.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.455.aaaa ←
13:01:00 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
13:01:19 <Zakim> + +39.25.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.25.aabb ←
13:01:32 <Zakim> + +1.202.731.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.731.aacc ←
13:01:42 <Beng> zakim +39.25.aabb is Beng
Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Beng: zakim +39.25.aabb is Beng ←
13:01:59 <Zakim> - +1.301.455.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.301.455.aaaa ←
13:02:19 <Zakim> + +1.509.464.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.464.aadd ←
13:02:20 <Zakim> + +1.202.256.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.256.aaee ←
13:02:34 <kjetil> Zakim, code?
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, code? ←
13:02:34 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kjetil
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kjetil ←
13:03:09 <josema> zakim, aabb is Benjamin
José Alonso: zakim, aabb is Benjamin ←
13:03:10 <Zakim> +Benjamin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Benjamin; got it ←
13:03:31 <josema> zakim, aacc is kevin
José Alonso: zakim, aacc is kevin ←
13:03:31 <Zakim> +kevin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin; got it ←
13:03:40 <Zakim> + +1.301.384.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.384.aaff ←
13:04:02 <josema> zakim, aaff is Owen
José Alonso: zakim, aaff is Owen ←
13:04:02 <Zakim> +Owen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Owen; got it ←
13:04:44 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
13:04:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Benjamin, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Benjamin, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen ←
13:04:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot ←
13:05:07 <josema> kjetil, are you around?
José Alonso: kjetil, are you around? ←
13:05:15 <josema> you are supposed to scribe today
José Alonso: you are supposed to scribe today ←
13:05:23 <kjetil> josema, yeah, but phone problems
Kjetil Kjernsmo: josema, yeah, but phone problems ←
13:05:54 <josema> scribe: josema
(Scribe set to José Alonso)
13:06:04 <josema> zakim, take up agendum 1
zakim, take up agendum 1 ←
13:06:04 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene, agenda adjustments" taken up [from josema]
13:06:33 <josema> kevin: welcome everybody, thanks for coming
Kevin Novak: welcome everybody, thanks for coming ←
13:07:51 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
13:07:58 <kjetil> Zakim, ??P18
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, ??P18 ←
13:07:58 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P18', kjetil
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '??P18', kjetil ←
13:08:02 <kjetil> Zakim, ??P18 is me
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, ??P18 is me ←
13:08:02 <Zakim> +kjetil; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kjetil; got it ←
13:08:27 <josema> scribe: kjetil
(Scribe set to Kjetil Kjernsmo)
13:08:29 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
13:08:29 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted ←
13:08:53 <Beng> Zakim, Benjamin is Beng
Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Beng: Zakim, Benjamin is Beng ←
13:08:53 <Zakim> +Beng; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Beng; got it ←
13:10:28 <josema> [introducing new Members]
José Alonso: [introducing new Members] ←
13:10:55 <josema> [Tanya, John not here, jose and Kevin give short intro]
José Alonso: [Tanya, John not here, jose and Kevin give short intro] ←
13:11:33 <kjetil> John runs the openhouse project
John runs the openhouse project ←
13:11:43 <josema> [Ari mentions Openhouse project by Sunlight]
José Alonso: [Ari mentions Openhouse project by Sunlight] ←
13:13:04 <josema> [Trond introduces himself]
José Alonso: [Trond introduces himself] ←
13:13:05 <kjetil> Representative from Oracle
Representative from Oracle ←
13:13:29 <kjetil> has previously worked for the European Commission
has previously worked for the European Commission ←
13:13:43 <kjetil> josema: Martijn is not around either
José Alonso: Martijn is not around either ←
13:15:35 <kjetil> josema: I got regrets from a few people, but not all, so it is difficult to know who is on the call
José Alonso: I got regrets from a few people, but not all, so it is difficult to know who is on the call ←
13:15:51 <kjetil> josema: please send us your regrets to the mailing list, or the chairs
José Alonso: please send us your regrets to the mailing list, or the chairs ←
13:16:52 <kjetil> josema: we have to pre-book ports on the conference system, so please let us know a little in advance
José Alonso: we have to pre-book ports on the conference system, so please let us know a little in advance ←
13:17:18 <josema> zakim, move to next agendum
José Alonso: zakim, move to next agendum ←
13:17:18 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Introductions - new people onboard" taken up [from josema]
13:17:22 <josema> zakim, move to next agendum
José Alonso: zakim, move to next agendum ←
13:17:22 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 2 was just opened, josema ←
13:17:29 <josema> zakim, close this agendum
José Alonso: zakim, close this agendum ←
13:17:29 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 2 closed ←
13:17:30 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
Zakim IRC Bot: I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is ←
13:17:31 <Zakim> 3. Review of open action items [from josema]
Zakim IRC Bot: 3. Review of open action items [from josema] ←
13:17:32 <josema> zakim, move to next agendum
José Alonso: zakim, move to next agendum ←
13:17:32 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Review of open action items" taken up [from josema]
13:17:40 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open
José Alonso: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open ←
13:18:26 <kjetil> josema: mentions some long acronyms we should be in touch with
José Alonso: mentions some long acronyms we should be in touch with ←
13:18:47 <kjetil> josema: we are charted to find ways to cooperate
José Alonso: we are chartered to find ways to cooperate ←
13:19:28 <kjetil> Zakim: who is talking?
Zakim IRC Bot: who is talking? ←
13:19:35 <josema> s/charted/chartered
13:19:59 <kjetil> right
right ←
13:20:22 <josema> [reviewing liaisons here]
José Alonso: [reviewing liaisons here] ←
13:20:41 <kjetil> Kevin is reporting on ongoing efforts to establish collaborations
Kevin is reporting on ongoing efforts to establish collaborations ←
13:20:52 <josema> [potential joint event with OASIS in March in DC]
José Alonso: [potential joint event with OASIS in March in DC] ←
13:21:11 <josema> [The World Bank could provide room and some logistics]
José Alonso: [The World Bank could provide room and some logistics] ←
13:21:13 <Zakim> +??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19 ←
13:21:15 <Zakim> + +1.202.488.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.488.aagg ←
13:21:42 <josema> [late March]
José Alonso: [late March] ←
13:22:00 <josema> zakim, whos's noisy
José Alonso: zakim, whos's noisy ←
13:22:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'whos's noisy', josema
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'whos's noisy', josema ←
13:22:04 <josema> zakim, who's noisy
José Alonso: zakim, who's noisy ←
13:22:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's noisy', josema
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who's noisy', josema ←
13:22:08 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?
José Alonso: zakim, who's noisy? ←
13:22:09 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?
Zakim, who is talking? ←
13:22:18 <Zakim> josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (24%), kevin (91%), ??P19 (20%)
Zakim IRC Bot: josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (24%), kevin (91%), ??P19 (20%) ←
13:22:26 <josema> zakim, mute me
José Alonso: zakim, mute me ←
13:22:26 <Zakim> Josema should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Josema should now be muted ←
13:22:29 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (14%), kevin (50%), ??P19 (35%), +1.202.488.aagg (5%)
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (14%), kevin (50%), ??P19 (35%), +1.202.488.aagg (5%) ←
13:23:14 <josema> [talked about funding, they are putting together an internal proposal??]
José Alonso: [talked about funding, they are putting together an internal proposal??] ←
13:23:26 <josema> [talked about open standards and the use in their projects]
José Alonso: [talked about open standards and the use in their projects] ←
13:23:45 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?
José Alonso: zakim, who's noisy? ←
13:23:55 <Zakim> josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kevin (90%), ??P19 (54%)
Zakim IRC Bot: josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kevin (90%), ??P19 (54%) ←
13:24:04 <josema> zakim, who is ??P19
José Alonso: zakim, who is ??P19 ←
13:24:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is ??P19', josema
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is ??P19', josema ←
13:24:09 <chris> i'm on
Christopher Testa: i'm on ←
13:24:17 <josema> zakim, mute ??P19
José Alonso: zakim, mute ??P19 ←
13:24:17 <Zakim> ??P19 should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ??P19 should now be muted ←
13:24:28 <kjetil> Zakim, ??P19 is chris
Zakim, ??P19 is chris ←
13:24:28 <Zakim> +chris; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +chris; got it ←
13:24:33 <kjetil> right?
right? ←
13:24:41 <josema> hope so
José Alonso: hope so ←
13:24:46 <chris> not sure
Christopher Testa: not sure ←
13:24:59 <josema> maybe aagg
José Alonso: maybe aagg ←
13:25:13 <josema> chris, is your number +1.202.488--something
José Alonso: chris, is your number +1.202.488--something ←
13:25:16 <josema> ?
José Alonso: ? ←
13:25:32 <chris> yes, that's me. i'm on mute
Christopher Testa: yes, that's me. i'm on mute ←
13:25:35 <kjetil> Kevin will be speaking with government official in late sept
Kevin will be speaking with government official in late sept ←
13:25:35 <josema> [kevin to speak at FIRM event on September, 24th]
José Alonso: [kevin to speak at FIRM event on September, 24th] ←
13:25:57 <josema> zakim, aagg is chris
José Alonso: zakim, aagg is chris ←
13:25:57 <Zakim> +chris; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +chris; got it ←
13:26:41 <josema> ack me
José Alonso: ack me ←
13:27:33 <kjetil> Zakim, unmute ??P19
Zakim, unmute ??P19 ←
13:27:33 <Zakim> sorry, kjetil, I do not know which phone connection belongs to ??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, kjetil, I do not know which phone connection belongs to ??P19 ←
13:28:29 <kjetil> josema: let us look at wikis for the TF's, lets also hear their leaders
José Alonso: let us look at wikis for the TF's, lets also hear their leaders ←
13:29:10 <kjetil> Kevin: before we do that, let us go back to the workshop in spring
Kevin Novak: before we do that, let us go back to the workshop in spring ←
13:29:24 <kjetil> Kevin: what should that look like?
Kevin Novak: what should that look like? ←
13:29:37 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:30:14 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:30:28 <josema> zakim, close agendum 3
José Alonso: zakim, close agendum 3 ←
13:30:28 <Zakim> agendum 3, Review of open action items, closed
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 3, Review of open action items, closed ←
13:30:29 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
Zakim IRC Bot: I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is ←
13:30:30 <Zakim> 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema]
Zakim IRC Bot: 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema] ←
13:30:39 <kjetil> kevin: we are allready two weeks into the time span for this group, and we need to speed up now
Kevin Novak: we are already two weeks into the time span for this group, and we need to speed up now ←
13:30:57 <josema> s/allready/already
13:31:12 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/GroupOutline Group Outline
José Alonso: ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/GroupOutline Group Outline ←
13:31:30 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan Activity Plan
José Alonso: ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan Activity Plan ←
13:32:46 <josema> [kevin reviews plan]
José Alonso: [kevin reviews plan] ←
13:33:44 <josema> zakim, who is here?
José Alonso: zakim, who is here? ←
13:33:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Beng, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen, kjetil (muted), chris (muted), chris.a
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Beng, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen, kjetil (muted), chris (muted), chris.a ←
13:33:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see chris, Zakim, RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see chris, Zakim, RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot ←
13:33:58 <josema> zakim, aadd is Rachel
José Alonso: zakim, aadd is Rachel ←
13:33:58 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel; got it ←
13:35:05 <Zakim> - +1.202.256.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.256.aaee ←
13:35:06 <Zakim> +CDT
Zakim IRC Bot: +CDT ←
13:35:17 <josema> zakim, CDT is Ari
José Alonso: zakim, CDT is Ari ←
13:35:17 <Zakim> +Ari; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ari; got it ←
13:35:42 <josema> yes, we need feedback!!
José Alonso: yes, we need feedback!! ←
13:36:09 <josema> we need the expertise from the Group
José Alonso: we need the expertise from the Group ←
13:37:42 <kjetil> chris: I would like to review the group activity and align that with the actions for the task force
Christopher Testa: I would like to review the group activity and align that with the actions for the task force ←
13:38:15 <kjetil> josema: these plans are not fixed, they are food for thought
José Alonso: these plans are not fixed, they are food for thought ←
13:39:01 <kjetil> josema: we are trying to find out what the eGov Activity should be, not just for the present IG
José Alonso: we are trying to find out what the eGov Activity should be, not just for the present IG ←
13:39:20 <kjetil> josema: there are lots of questions about what we should do
José Alonso: there are lots of questions about what we should do ←
13:40:01 <kjetil> Zakim, who is noisy?
Zakim, who is noisy? ←
13:40:11 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (25%), Josema (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (25%), Josema (4%) ←
13:41:07 <kjetil> Zakim, who is noisy?
Zakim, who is noisy? ←
13:41:17 <Zakim> -kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←
13:41:18 <josema> [kevin leaves call]
José Alonso: [kevin leaves call] ←
13:41:18 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (45%), Josema (30%), kevin (19%)
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (45%), Josema (30%), kevin (19%) ←
13:41:31 <josema> zakim, mute Katie
José Alonso: zakim, mute Katie ←
13:41:31 <Zakim> Katie_Haritos-Shea should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Katie_Haritos-Shea should now be muted ←
13:42:25 <kjetil> josema: there is an article in ?? from some guys at Princeton about open government
José Alonso: there is an article in ?? from some guys at Princeton about open government ←
13:42:48 <kjetil> josema: it got a lot of attention, in blogs and so on
José Alonso: it got a lot of attention, in blogs and so on ←
13:43:08 <kjetil> josema: the govt should stop publishing websites and focus on publishing data
José Alonso: the govt should stop publishing websites and focus on publishing data ←
13:43:25 <kjetil> josema: to use by persons and organisations
José Alonso: to use by persons and organisations ←
13:43:28 <Zakim> -Beng
Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Beng ←
13:44:08 <kjetil> josema: we will send the reference, when I have it handy
José Alonso: we will send the reference, when I have it handy ←
13:44:20 <kjetil> josema: if anybody has it handy, please send it to the group list?
José Alonso: if anybody has it handy, please send it to the group list? ←
13:44:46 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:44:48 <kjetil> josema: I will try to find it
José Alonso: I will try to find it ←
13:44:57 <Zakim> +Beng
Zakim IRC Bot: +Beng ←
13:45:52 <kjetil> josema: task force chairs: what do you expect from your task force?
José Alonso: task force chairs: what do you expect from your task force? ←
13:46:34 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?
Zakim, who is talking? ←
13:46:45 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (4%), chris.a (76%)
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (4%), chris.a (76%) ←
13:47:43 <kjetil> chris.a: I have heard from some individuals about interest in the TF
chris.a: I have heard from some individuals about interest in the TF ←
13:48:46 <kjetil> ... I will be updating the use case documents
... I will be updating the use case documents ←
13:50:01 <kjetil> josema: I have been reviewing guidelines from several countries
José Alonso: I have been reviewing guidelines from several countries ←
13:50:23 <kjetil> josema: some countries say "follow these specs, this performance level" and so on
José Alonso: some countries say "follow these specs, this performance level" and so on ←
13:50:28 <pasquale> sorry, I am not able to continue, hi all
Pasquale Popolizio: sorry, I am not able to continue, hi all ←
13:50:38 <kjetil> josema: several countries have been working on this
José Alonso: several countries have been working on this ←
13:51:06 <kjetil> josema: would it be interesting to compile "the best of the best"?
José Alonso: would it be interesting to compile "the best of the best"? ←
13:51:23 <kjetil> chris.a: Yeah, I think that would be very interesting
chris.a: Yeah, I think that would be very interesting ←
13:51:32 <josema> zakim, is rachel here?
José Alonso: zakim, is rachel here? ←
13:51:32 <Zakim> probably, josema; Rachel arrived 49 minutes ago
Zakim IRC Bot: probably, josema; Rachel arrived 49 minutes ago ←
13:52:17 <kjetil> josema: Rachel: if the group would produce that, would it be useful for you?
José Alonso: Rachel: if the group would produce that, would it be useful for you? ←
13:52:37 <kjetil> Rachel: the guiding principles are
Rachel Flagg: the guiding principles are ←
13:52:48 <kjetil> we have documented a lot of practices
we have documented a lot of practices ←
13:53:22 <kjetil> the more we can do the same way not only in the US, but all over the world, the better it is
the more we can do the same way not only in the US, but all over the world, the better it is ←
13:54:01 <kjetil> josema: I hope a lot of people will send you email about joining this TF effort
José Alonso: I hope a lot of people will send you email about joining this TF effort ←
13:54:08 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?
Zakim, who is talking? ←
13:54:12 <josema> september... I'm full of energy :)
José Alonso: september... I'm full of energy :) ←
13:54:19 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (33%), Ari (100%)
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (33%), Ari (100%) ←
13:54:57 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
Zakim IRC Bot: -Katie_Haritos-Shea ←
13:55:24 <kjetil> ari: please put up the things that you read and find interesting to the wiki
Ari Schwartz: please put up the things that you read and find interesting to the wiki ←
13:55:39 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
Zakim IRC Bot: +Katie_Haritos-Shea ←
13:55:43 <kjetil> josema: how do you envision the TF work?
José Alonso: how do you envision the TF work? ←
13:56:34 <kjetil> ari: the goal is to find out how open standards are used to gain transparancy, and where are the gaps
Ari Schwartz: the goal is to find out how open standards are used to gain transparancy, and where are the gaps ←
13:56:58 <kjetil> ari: the short term goals is to find out what's out there
Ari Schwartz: the short term goals is to find out what's out there ←
13:57:18 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:57:46 <kjetil> josema: any other commentS?
José Alonso: any other commentS? ←
13:58:23 <josema> zakim, close this agendum
José Alonso: zakim, close this agendum ←
13:58:23 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 5 closed ←
13:58:24 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
Zakim IRC Bot: I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is ←
13:58:27 <Zakim> 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema]
Zakim IRC Bot: 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema] ←
13:58:58 <kjetil> josema: let us talk about IG Notes
José Alonso: let us talk about IG Notes ←
13:59:11 <kjetil> josema: we are supposed to produce one for each TF
José Alonso: we are supposed to produce one for each TF ←
14:00:36 <kjetil> josema: we have two months to produce those
José Alonso: we have two months to produce those ←
14:01:30 <kjetil> josema: we are supposed to be doing that right now, and we have not really started
José Alonso: we are supposed to be doing that right now, and we have not really started ←
14:01:45 <kjetil> josema: I will try to push a little bit
José Alonso: I will try to push a little bit ←
14:02:45 <kjetil> josema: I will try to help with the W3C editing principles, which are not very hard, but they are there, and involve valid (X)HTML
José Alonso: I will try to help with the W3C editing principles, which are not very hard, but they are there, and involve valid (X)HTML ←
14:02:57 <kjetil> josema: we have very tight deadlines now
José Alonso: we have very tight deadlines now ←
14:03:16 <josema> move to next agendum
José Alonso: move to next agendum ←
14:03:16 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Face to Face Meeting" taken up [from josema]
14:03:37 <kjetil> josema: I sent an email about the F2F meeting
José Alonso: I sent an email about the F2F meeting ←
14:03:57 <kjetil> josema: the meeting is in a hotel near Cannes
José Alonso: the meeting is in a hotel near Cannes ←
14:04:32 <kjetil> josema: the discount rate expires on next monday
José Alonso: the discount rate expires on next monday ←
14:04:42 <Beng> jose's mail is : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2008Aug/0004.html
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Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Beng: jose's mail is : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2008Aug/0004.html ←
14:04:54 <kjetil> josema: there are other hotels of course
José Alonso: there are other hotels of course ←
14:05:11 <kjetil> josema: the deadline for the meeting is sept 28
José Alonso: the deadline for the meeting is sept 28 ←
14:05:49 <kjetil> josema: this is the TPAC, the Technical Plenary, which is the main W3C technical meeting
José Alonso: this is the TPAC, the Technical Plenary, which is the main W3C technical meeting ←
14:06:07 <kjetil> josema: it is one of the best meetings in the year, highly recommended
José Alonso: it is one of the best meetings in the year, highly recommended ←
14:06:29 <kjetil> josema: if we need to interact with other groups, the best experts will be there
José Alonso: if we need to interact with other groups, the best experts will be there ←
14:07:00 <kjetil> josema: most meetings are open to observers, so you may join other meetings
José Alonso: most meetings are open to observers, so you may join other meetings ←
14:07:43 <kjetil> josema: this is very useful to learn technologies, and all the experts are there
José Alonso: this is very useful to learn technologies, and all the experts are there ←
14:08:57 <kjetil> Important dates: sept 8th and sept 28th
Important dates: sept 8th and sept 28th ←
14:09:04 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
14:09:06 <kjetil> josema: any questions?
José Alonso: any questions? ←
14:09:41 <kjetil> Zakim: unmute me
Zakim IRC Bot: unmute me ←
14:09:47 <kjetil> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
14:09:47 <Zakim> kjetil should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should no longer be muted ←
14:10:03 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
14:10:03 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted ←
14:10:04 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
14:10:22 <josema> move to next agendum
José Alonso: move to next agendum ←
14:10:22 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Group Activity Plan" taken up [from josema]
14:11:32 <josema> close this agendum
José Alonso: close this agendum ←
14:11:36 <josema> move to next agendum
José Alonso: move to next agendum ←
14:11:36 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Liaisons: review" taken up [from josema]
14:12:04 <kjetil> josema: Kevin allready mentioned OASIS and the World Bank
José Alonso: Kevin allready mentioned OASIS and the World Bank ←
14:12:37 <kjetil> josema: we are in a state where we try to gain more knowledge about each other
José Alonso: we are in a state where we try to gain more knowledge about each other ←
14:12:50 <kjetil> josema: we will return to the group with reports
José Alonso: we will return to the group with reports ←
14:13:15 <josema> http://www.semic.eu
José Alonso: http://www.semic.eu ←
14:13:20 <kjetil> josema: we have had some interest from the Semantic Interoperability in Europe
José Alonso: we have had some interest from the Semantic Interoperability in Europe ←
14:13:45 <kjetil> josema: this is especially relevant to data integration
José Alonso: this is especially relevant to data integration ←
14:13:59 <kjetil> josema: we will meet with the project in Brussels
José Alonso: we will meet with the project in Brussels ←
14:14:09 <kjetil> josema: how do we see that vision
José Alonso: how do we see that vision ←
14:14:56 <kjetil> josema: they are planning to compile a repository of "interoperability assets"
José Alonso: they are planning to compile a repository of "interoperability assets" ←
14:15:16 <kjetil> josema: I will find out more about this in two weeks from now in the meeting
José Alonso: I will find out more about this in two weeks from now in the meeting ←
14:15:31 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?
Zakim, who is talking? ←
14:15:42 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (9%) ←
14:16:16 <kjetil> Trond: it is a very interesting project, with large challenges
Trond Undheim: it is a very interesting project, with large challenges ←
14:16:54 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2004/ontaria/ Ontaria
José Alonso: ->http://www.w3.org/2004/ontaria/ Ontaria ←
14:17:32 <kjetil> josema: Ontaria was a related W3C project
José Alonso: Ontaria was a related W3C project ←
14:18:19 <kjetil> josema: that project is stopped, probably due to lack of funding
José Alonso: that project is stopped, probably due to lack of funding ←
14:18:49 <kjetil> josema: I will try to find out more
José Alonso: I will try to find out more ←
14:19:26 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
14:19:31 <kjetil> q+
q+ ←
14:19:34 <josema> close this agendum
José Alonso: close this agendum ←
14:19:42 <kjetil> ack me
ack me ←
14:21:12 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
14:21:12 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted ←
14:21:20 <kjetil> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
14:21:20 <Zakim> kjetil should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should no longer be muted ←
14:22:06 <Zakim> -Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←
14:22:11 <kjetil> kjetil: mentioned the liasons established by computas
Kjetil Kjernsmo: mentioned the liasons established by computas ←
14:22:13 <josema> I lost my phone connection :(
José Alonso: I lost my phone connection :( ←
14:22:30 <josema> zakim, call josema-office
José Alonso: zakim, call josema-office ←
14:22:31 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; the call is being made ←
14:22:32 <Zakim> +Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←
14:22:41 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
14:22:41 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted ←
14:23:09 <kjetil> josema: any further questions?
José Alonso: any further questions? ←
14:23:34 <kjetil> josema: please take a look at the documents
José Alonso: please take a look at the documents ←
14:23:40 <kjetil> josema: we're ADJOURNED
José Alonso: we're ADJOURNED ←
14:23:47 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
Zakim IRC Bot: -Katie_Haritos-Shea ←
14:23:48 <kjetil> josema: thank you all!
José Alonso: thank you all! ←
14:23:49 <Zakim> -Ari
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ari ←
14:23:50 <Zakim> -Owen
Zakim IRC Bot: -Owen ←
14:23:51 <Zakim> -??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P9 ←
14:23:52 <Zakim> -chris
Zakim IRC Bot: -chris ←
14:23:53 <Zakim> -chris.a
Scribe problem: the name 'chris.a' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -chris.a ←
14:23:55 <Zakim> -Rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel ←
14:23:55 <Zakim> -kjetil
Zakim IRC Bot: -kjetil ←
14:24:00 <Zakim> -Beng
Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Beng ←
14:24:10 <josema> thanks all for particippating today
José Alonso: thanks all for particippating today ←
14:24:18 <josema> thanks kjetil for scribing!
José Alonso: thanks kjetil for scribing! ←
14:24:25 <Zakim> -Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←
14:24:27 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←
14:24:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, +1.301.455.aaaa, +39.25.aabb, +1.202.731.aacc, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, kevin, +1.301.384.aaff, Owen, kjetil, Beng,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, +1.301.455.aaaa, +39.25.aabb, +1.202.731.aacc, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, kevin, +1.301.384.aaff, Owen, kjetil, Beng, ←
14:24:30 <Zakim> ... +1.202.488.aagg, chris, Rachel, Ari
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.202.488.aagg, chris, Rachel, Ari ←
14:24:35 <josema> RRSAgent, draft minutes
José Alonso: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
14:24:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-minutes.html josema ←
14:24:44 <josema> RRSAgent, list attendees
José Alonso: RRSAgent, list attendees ←
14:24:44 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
14:24:58 <josema> Zakim, list attendees
José Alonso: Zakim, list attendees ←
14:24:58 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is ←
16:17:03 <josema> RRSAgent, bye
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José Alonso: RRSAgent, bye ←
16:17:03 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
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