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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 19 June 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150619
Seen
Annette Greiner, Antoine Isaac, Bart van Leeuwen, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Deirdre Lee, Giancarlo Guizzardi, Hadley Beeman, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Newton Calegari, Peter Winstanley, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler, Sumit Purohit, Yaso Córdova
Guests
Newton Calegari
Chair
Deirdre Lee
Scribe
Hadley Beeman
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. APPROVE last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-12 link
  2. that the editors are asked to insert specific issues raised by annette_g in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html, and to publish http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html as a new Public Working Draft link
Topics
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12:57:19 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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12:57:20 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:57:20 <trackbot> Date: 19 June 2015
12:57:42 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: present+ deirdrelee

12:59:36 <BartvanLeeuwen> hi, is there a meeting like now ?

Bart van Leeuwen: hi, is there a meeting like now ?

13:00:47 <deirdrelee> hey bar

Deirdre Lee: hey bar

13:00:48 <deirdrelee> t

Deirdre Lee: t

13:00:54 <deirdrelee> yip, meeting now

Deirdre Lee: yip, meeting now

13:01:01 <Caroline> Hello!

Caroline Burle: Hello!

13:01:01 <Caroline> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:01:05 <deirdrelee> i guess everyone's having fun with webex

Deirdre Lee: i guess everyone's having fun with webex

13:01:13 <Caroline> What is the link of Webex, please?

Caroline Burle: What is the link of Webex, please?

13:01:50 <Caroline> Newton found it

Caroline Burle: Newton found it

13:01:50 <deirdrelee> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150619
13:01:51 <Caroline> thank you!

Caroline Burle: thank you!

13:01:53 <hadleybeeman> present+ hadleybeeman

Hadley Beeman: present+ hadleybeeman

13:02:01 <BartvanLeeuwen> present+ BartvanLeeuwen

Bart van Leeuwen: present+ BartvanLeeuwen

13:02:31 <deirdrelee> Webex link: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

Deirdre Lee: Webex link: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

13:02:50 <yaso_> Hi all

Yaso Córdova: Hi all

13:03:00 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150619 Webex link: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

Hadley Beeman: hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150619 Webex link: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

13:03:09 <yaso_> I m having problems with the sound...

Yaso Córdova: I m having problems with the sound...

13:03:29 <antoine> present+ antoine

Antoine Isaac: present+ antoine

13:08:09 <MTCarrasco> zakim, who is on the phone?

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, who is on the phone?

13:08:09 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has not yet started, MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has not yet started, MTCarrasco

13:08:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

13:08:11 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

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13:08:13 <yaso_> BartvanLeeuwen, me too :-|

Yaso Córdova: BartvanLeeuwen, me too :-|

13:08:15 <phila> present+ PhilA

Phil Archer: present+ PhilA

13:09:17 <annette_g> present+ annette_g

Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g

13:09:53 <yaso_> I'm not o webex also. I Dialed the number

Yaso Córdova: I'm not o webex also. I Dialed the number

13:09:59 <BernadetteLoscio> present+ BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: present+ BernadetteLoscio

13:10:03 <yaso_> toll number

Yaso Córdova: toll number

13:10:10 <laufer> present+ laufer

Carlos Laufer: present+ laufer

13:10:19 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:10:19 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has not yet started, hadleybeeman

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13:10:20 <yaso_> present+ yaso_

Yaso Córdova: present+ yaso_

13:10:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

13:10:21 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

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13:10:26 <MTCarrasco> present+ MTCarrasco

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: present+ MTCarrasco

13:10:30 <Caroline> present+ Caroline

Caroline Burle: present+ Caroline

13:10:32 <yaso_> BartvanLeeuwen, no

Yaso Córdova: BartvanLeeuwen, no

13:10:33 <hadleybeeman> trackbot, start meeting

Hadley Beeman: trackbot, start meeting

13:10:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351

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13:10:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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13:10:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:10:38 <trackbot> Date: 19 June 2015
13:10:39 <adler1> present+ adler1

Steven Adler: present+ adler1

13:10:44 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:10:44 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has not yet started, hadleybeeman

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13:10:45 <newton> present+ newton

Newton Calegari: present+ newton

13:10:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

13:10:46 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

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13:11:53 <phila> deirdrelee: 641444

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13:11:58 <Zakim> + +1.617.646.aaaa

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13:12:00 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:12:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.617.646.aaaa

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13:12:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

13:12:01 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

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13:12:08 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.617.646.aaaa

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13:12:25 <hadleybeeman> present+ hadleybeeman

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13:12:29 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:12:30 <Zakim> apparently DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended, hadleybeeman

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13:12:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Makx, adler1, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, newton, Caroline, RiccardoAlbertoni, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso_, deirdrelee,

13:12:31 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

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13:13:11 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public

Phil Archer: RRSAgent, make logs public

13:13:13 <yaso_> hadleybeeman, it can be a protest

Yaso Córdova: hadleybeeman, it can be a protest

13:13:16 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes

Phil Archer: RRSAgent, draft minutes

13:13:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/19-dwbp-minutes.html phila

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13:13:53 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: present+ deirdrelee

13:14:15 <hadleybeeman> scribe: hadleybeeman

(Scribe set to Hadley Beeman)

13:14:17 <PeterWinstanley> PeterWinstanley +1

Peter Winstanley: PeterWinstanley +1

13:14:21 <deirdrelee> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-12

Deirdre Lee: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-12

13:14:30 <hadleybeeman> PROPOSED: APPROVE last week's minutes:  http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-12

PROPOSED: APPROVE last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-12

13:14:39 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:14:44 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:14:44 <hadleybeeman> +1

+1

13:14:44 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:14:45 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:14:52 <yaso_> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

13:14:59 <hadleybeeman> RESOLVED: APPROVE last week's minutes:  http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-12

RESOLVED: APPROVE last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-12

13:14:59 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

13:15:00 <Caroline> +0 (wasn't there)

Caroline Burle: +0 (wasn't there)

13:15:13 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:15:27 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: There was lots of good work on the mailing list this week.

Deirdre Lee: There was lots of good work on the mailing list this week.

13:15:34 <hadleybeeman> topic: Next Face-to-face

1. Next Face-to-face

13:15:44 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Yaso suggested Sao Paolo 24-25 Sept.

Deirdre Lee: Yaso suggested Sao Paulo 24-25 Sept.

13:15:46 <deirdrelee> suggested dates: São Paulo, Sept 24-25

Deirdre Lee: suggested dates: São Paulo, Sept 24-25

13:16:12 <yaso_> hi

Yaso Córdova: hi

13:16:15 <yaso_> came back

Yaso Córdova: came back

13:16:21 <laufer> s/Paolo/Paulo/
13:16:27 <yaso_> yes i can hear you

Yaso Córdova: yes i can hear you

13:16:35 <yaso_> yes but you cant hear me

Yaso Córdova: yes but you cant hear me

13:16:38 <yaso_> Caroline, go ahead

Yaso Córdova: Caroline, go ahead

13:17:03 <yaso_> I'm talking but you can't hear

Yaso Córdova: I'm talking but you can't hear

13:17:07 <deirdrelee> fine phil

Deirdre Lee: fine phil

13:17:07 <hadleybeeman> Caroline: Idea: have it at NIC.br in Sao Paolo.

Caroline Burle: Idea: have it at NIC.br in Sao Paulo.

13:17:24 <yaso_> Yes, thanks caroline :_)

Yaso Córdova: Yes, thanks caroline :_)

13:17:27 <hadleybeeman> ... Sept 24-25, a Thursday and a Friday.

... Sept 24-25, a Thursday and a Friday.

13:17:30 <newton> s/Paolo/Paulo
13:17:40 <hadleybeeman> ...Before that is the Web.BR conference. (Tues-Weds)

...Before that is the Web.BR conference. (Tues-Weds)

13:17:49 <hadleybeeman> ...We're trying to get approval to bring someone.

...We're trying to get approval to bring someone.

13:18:03 <hadleybeeman> ...We have a call for papers open. This might help people, especially those from universities.

...We have a call for papers open. This might help people, especially those from universities.

13:18:25 <hadleybeeman> ...Do send a proposal for a paper.  It may make it easier for you to come.

...Do send a proposal for a paper. It may make it easier for you to come.

13:18:35 <hadleybeeman> ...Eric sent a message about it to the whole group.

...Eric sent a message about it to the whole group.

13:18:44 <hadleybeeman> ...I've also mentioned it to Christophe.

...I've also mentioned it to Christophe.

13:19:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/19-dwbp-minutes.html phila

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/19-dwbp-minutes.html phila

13:19:05 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:19:14 <hadleybeeman> ...This may help to get your travel expenses approved for the face-to-face.

...This may help to get your travel expenses approved for the face-to-face.

13:19:17 <phila> Chair: Deirdre
13:19:36 <hadleybeeman> ...Most of the conference participatns are Brazilian, but we will have translation into English.

...Most of the conference participatns are Brazilian, but we will have translation into English.

13:19:41 <phila> Regrets+ Eric S, Ghislain A,

Phil Archer: Regrets+ Eric S, Ghislain A,

13:19:43 <hadleybeeman> ...We have ~400 people attend.

...We have ~400 people attend.

13:19:46 <yaso_> the email that i sent https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0078.html

Yaso Córdova: the email that i sent https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0078.html

13:20:07 <Caroline> Web.br http://conferenciaweb.w3c.br/

Caroline Burle: Web.br http://conferenciaweb.w3c.br/

13:20:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/19-dwbp-minutes.html phila

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/19-dwbp-minutes.html phila

13:20:16 <hadleybeeman> ...I put the website in — it's in Portuguese now, but it may be translated into English.

...I put the website in — it's in Portuguese now, but it may be translated into English.

13:20:18 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee:

Deirdre Lee:

13:20:41 <hadleybeeman> ... I presume all Brazilian members will be able to get there. For others, will we have an alternative?

... I presume all Brazilian members will be able to get there. For others, will we have an alternative?

13:20:55 <hadleybeeman> ... Ideally, as many people as possible would go to Brazill.

... Ideally, as many people as possible would go to Brazill.

13:20:58 <BartvanLeeuwen> -1

Bart van Leeuwen: -1

13:21:02 <annette_g> I will try

Annette Greiner: I will try

13:21:04 <adler1> I could make it but it is tight for me as I also have a conference in Africa in early September

Steven Adler: I could make it but it is tight for me as I also have a conference in Africa in early September

13:21:06 <Makx> -1

Makx Dekkers: -1

13:21:09 <hadleybeeman> ...Is it feasible for you all to travel to Brazil? If you don't say no, I'll assume you can go.

...Is it feasible for you all to travel to Brazil? If you don't say no, I'll assume you can go.

13:21:17 <PeterWinstanley> might be -1

Peter Winstanley: might be -1

13:21:19 <deirdrelee> -1

Deirdre Lee: -1

13:21:22 <antoine> quick check: it's already almost 800 euros for the flight :-(

Antoine Isaac: quick check: it's already almost 800 euros for the flight :-(

13:21:22 <adler1> I can travel to Brazil but those dates are not ideal

Steven Adler: I can travel to Brazil but those dates are not ideal

13:21:27 <MTCarrasco> -1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: -1

13:21:32 <RiccardoAlbertoni> -1

Riccardo Albertoni: -1

13:21:45 <hadleybeeman> ...It seems like the Europeans can't travel there, and I'm guessing don't have funds.

...It seems like the Europeans can't travel there, and I'm guessing don't have funds.

13:21:45 <yaso_> I would suggest that we count how many are able to get here in september

Yaso Córdova: I would suggest that we count how many are able to get here in september

13:21:53 <adler1> I have to be in Brazil in November for the Internet Governance Forum

Steven Adler: I have to be in Brazil in November for the Internet Governance Forum

13:21:57 <Caroline> +1 to yaso's suggestion

Caroline Burle: +1 to yaso's suggestion

13:21:57 <hadleybeeman> ....So should we have an alternative European meeting?

....So should we have an alternative European meeting?

13:22:03 <hadleybeeman> ...Where?

...Where?

13:22:26 <phila> Amsterdam? London?

Phil Archer: Amsterdam? London?

13:22:30 <PeterWinstanley> What facilities do we need for a meeting?

Peter Winstanley: What facilities do we need for a meeting?

13:22:30 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:22:33 <adler1> I personally feel a Brazil meeting would be the best

Steven Adler: I personally feel a Brazil meeting would be the best

13:22:36 <phila> VU is Amsterdam

Phil Archer: VU is Amsterdam

13:22:44 <yaso_> phila, deirdrelee I think that we should count how many can came 1st

Yaso Córdova: phila, deirdrelee I think that we should count how many can came 1st

13:22:51 <phila> (Christophe & Antoine may be able to help)

Phil Archer: (Christophe & Antoine may be able to help)

13:23:03 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: We need a physical space to host the right number (~10, for Europeans), with good wifi facilities for Webex and skype

Deirdre Lee: We need a physical space to host the right number (~10, for Europeans), with good wifi facilities for Webex and skype

13:23:06 <Caroline> +q

Caroline Burle: +q

13:23:12 <yaso_> q=

Yaso Córdova: q=

13:23:16 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

13:23:17 <hadleybeeman> ack antoine

ack antoine

13:23:17 <yaso_> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:23:20 <hadleybeeman> antoine:

Antoine Isaac:

13:23:21 <yaso_> q=

Yaso Córdova: q=

13:23:21 <deirdrelee> ack antoine

Deirdre Lee: ack antoine

13:23:24 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:23:32 <yaso_> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+

13:23:43 <hadleybeeman> antoine: Christophe and I already discussed this. We may be able to do something with the university.

Antoine Isaac: Christophe and I already discussed this. We may be able to do something with the university.

13:23:44 <SumitPurohit> q+

Sumit Purohit: q+

13:23:45 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:23:56 <hadleybeeman> ... We are both busy, so we can't check for the next two weeks

... We are both busy, so we can't check for the next two weeks

13:24:19 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: We can put it as a possible destination? The Free University Amsterdam?

Deirdre Lee: We can put it as a possible destination? The Free University Amsterdam?

13:24:30 <deirdrelee> ack Caroline

Deirdre Lee: ack Caroline

13:25:07 <hadleybeeman> Caroline: +1 to Yaso_.  It'd be nice to know how many people would come.  We are proposing to do it here because so many brazilians went to Austin, which was a big effort for us.

Caroline Burle: +1 to Yaso_. It'd be nice to know how many people would come. We are proposing to do it here because so many brazilians went to Austin, which was a big effort for us.

13:25:32 <hadleybeeman> ... it'd be nice to know how many would try to come, or would try to submit a paper to the conference.

... it'd be nice to know how many would try to come, or would try to submit a paper to the conference.

13:25:41 <hadleybeeman> ...Or why they can't? (Funds, or the dates?)

...Or why they can't? (Funds, or the dates?)

13:25:46 <adler1> The Tenth Annual IGF Meeting is scheduled to take place in João Pessoa, Brazil, on 10-13 November 2015.

Steven Adler: The Tenth Annual IGF Meeting is scheduled to take place in João Pessoa, Brazil, on 10-13 November 2015.

13:25:59 <hadleybeeman> ... It would be nice to have everyone in one place

... It would be nice to have everyone in one place

13:26:20 <hadleybeeman> ...We can check to see if we might fund people who speak at the conference.

...We can check to see if we might fund people who speak at the conference.

13:26:27 <giancarlo_guizzardi> I would definitely come

Giancarlo Guizzardi: I would definitely come

13:26:28 <adler1> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/

Steven Adler: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/

13:26:39 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Funding is a big issue for most of us. That would be one of the main barriers.

Deirdre Lee: Funding is a big issue for most of us. That would be one of the main barriers.

13:26:48 <yaso_> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:26:52 <hadleybeeman> ...Funding might be an opportunity

...Funding might be an opportunity

13:26:55 <hadleybeeman> ack adler

ack adler

13:27:11 <hadleybeeman> +1 to deirdrelee

+1 to deirdrelee

13:27:29 <hadleybeeman> adler1: I would love to have the event in Brazil. The dates aren't perfect for me, but none will be.

Steven Adler: I would love to have the event in Brazil. The dates aren't perfect for me, but none will be.

13:27:38 <hadleybeeman> ...It would be good to lock in dates.

...It would be good to lock in dates.

13:27:55 <hadleybeeman> ...If Europe on those dates, I can accommodate that — but I think we owe the Brazillians.

...If Europe on those dates, I can accommodate that — but I think we owe the Brazillians.

13:28:15 <hadleybeeman> ...If not, IBM can host in London. Or we might have a facility in Amsterdam

...If not, IBM can host in London. Or we might have a facility in Amsterdam

13:28:20 <hadleybeeman> ... but my first choice would be Brazil.

... but my first choice would be Brazil.

13:28:24 <yaso_> +1 to steve

Yaso Córdova: +1 to steve

13:28:26 <deirdrelee> ack yaso_

Deirdre Lee: ack yaso_

13:28:58 <adler1> I can't make TPAC

Steven Adler: I can't make TPAC

13:29:09 <hadleybeeman> yaso_: we should work with these dates, since many of us are going to TPAC.  We could get a room at TPAC, but if it wasn't going to be in Brazil, I think it should be TPAC.

Yaso Córdova: we should work with these dates, since many of us are going to TPAC. We could get a room at TPAC, but if it wasn't going to be in Brazil, I think it should be TPAC.

13:29:17 <Caroline> -1 to TPAC

Caroline Burle: -1 to TPAC

13:29:28 <hadleybeeman> ...I agree with Steve — the Brazilians in our group travel often and far.

...I agree with Steve — the Brazilians in our group travel often and far.

13:29:37 <newton> No funds for TPAC also :-(

Newton Calegari: No funds for TPAC also :-(

13:29:49 <adler1> +1 yaso

Steven Adler: +1 yaso

13:29:54 <hadleybeeman> ...Not good for the group to have another big meeting in Europe.

...Not good for the group to have another big meeting in Europe.

13:30:04 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:30:19 <hadleybeeman> ...For me, it's Japan at TPAC, or Brazil.  It's not good to have a meeting in Europe, or the USA.

...For me, it's Japan at TPAC, or Brazil. It's not good to have a meeting in Europe, or the USA.

13:30:37 <hadleybeeman> ...We are talking about 9 or 10 in Europe, and 9 in Brazil.  It's the group splitting.

...We are talking about 9 or 10 in Europe, and 9 in Brazil. It's the group splitting.

13:30:56 <adler1> IGF would be an ideal audience for our meeting

Steven Adler: IGF would be an ideal audience for our meeting

13:30:57 <hadleybeeman> ...Face-to-faces are there so we can meet face-to-face.

...Face-to-faces are there so we can meet face-to-face.

13:31:04 <hadleybeeman> +1 to yaso_

+1 to yaso_

13:31:08 <adler1> and have any of you seen photos of that city?

Steven Adler: and have any of you seen photos of that city?

13:31:08 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 yaso_

Bart van Leeuwen: +1 yaso_

13:31:29 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

13:31:31 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:31:32 <hadleybeeman> yaso_: Maybe we should move to discussing the BP now, and leave the f2f to be decided by email?

Yaso Córdova: Maybe we should move to discussing the BP now, and leave the f2f to be decided by email?

13:32:19 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Yaso_ +1. I agree, that would be best. But if organisations won't pay... it's the practical problem. This might be a bigger issue for W3C membership.

Deirdre Lee: Yaso_ +1. I agree, that would be best. But if organisations won't pay... it's the practical problem. This might be a bigger issue for W3C membership.

13:32:20 <PeterWinstanley> AirChina does returns from Madrid to SaoPaolo direct for £351

Peter Winstanley: AirChina does returns from Madrid to SaoPaolo direct for £351

13:32:31 <PeterWinstanley> http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/mad/saoa/150920/150927/airfares-from-madrid-to-sao-paulo-in-september-2015.html?rtn=1

Peter Winstanley: http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/mad/saoa/150920/150927/airfares-from-madrid-to-sao-paulo-in-september-2015.html?rtn=1

13:32:33 <hadleybeeman> ... I think it's a wider issue than just for our group.

... I think it's a wider issue than just for our group.

13:32:40 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 deirdrelee

Bart van Leeuwen: +1 deirdrelee

13:32:56 <adler1> I propose that we begin to think about organizing our meetings with a wider audience in mind to influence others and to be influenced by others

Steven Adler: I propose that we begin to think about organizing our meetings with a wider audience in mind to influence others and to be influenced by others

13:33:10 <hadleybeeman> SumitPurohit: Thanks to yaso_ and Caroline for organising this conference.

Sumit Purohit: Thanks to yaso_ and Caroline for organising this conference.

13:33:34 <hadleybeeman> ...The most overlapping timezone, we should pick that city. Last time, we stretched it as much as possible.

...The most overlapping timezone, we should pick that city. Last time, we stretched it as much as possible.

13:33:40 <Caroline> +1 to deirdrelee

Caroline Burle: +1 to deirdrelee

13:33:51 <hadleybeeman> ...Other than a good place to host us, another priority should be somewhere that provides us the most working hours together.

...Other than a good place to host us, another priority should be somewhere that provides us the most working hours together.

13:33:55 <deirdrelee> ack SumitPurohit

Deirdre Lee: ack SumitPurohit

13:33:56 <hadleybeeman> q?

q?

13:34:03 <hadleybeeman> ack phil

ack phil

13:34:32 <hadleybeeman> phila: Most MIT staff can't travel beyond the Boston area; W3C is facing similar challenges. We understand this.

Phil Archer: Most MIT staff can't travel beyond the Boston area; W3C is facing similar challenges. We understand this.

13:34:50 <hadleybeeman> ...The question is if we have a European meeting — might be better than no meeting at all?

...The question is if we have a European meeting — might be better than no meeting at all?

13:34:59 <hadleybeeman> ...Last time, even Lisbon was too far for most people.

...Last time, even Lisbon was too far for most people.

13:35:14 <hadleybeeman> ...If there is a meeting in Europe, and there is a meeting in Brazil (which i agree completely we should do),

...If there is a meeting in Europe, and there is a meeting in Brazil (which i agree completely we should do),

13:35:24 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:35:25 <hadleybeeman> ...then I'll have a hard time justifying the expense of going to Brazil.

...then I'll have a hard time justifying the expense of going to Brazil.

13:35:31 <hadleybeeman> ack adler

ack adler

13:35:52 <hadleybeeman> adler1: I think we should go to Brazil, and have everyone be there or participate remotely.

Steven Adler: I think we should go to Brazil, and have everyone be there or participate remotely.

13:36:15 <hadleybeeman> ...But I think we out it to our Brazilian colleagues who have travelled so much in the past, to support them. It's the right thing to do.

...But I think we out it to our Brazilian colleagues who have travelled so much in the past, to support them. It's the right thing to do.

13:36:27 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Let's take that to email.

Deirdre Lee: Let's take that to email.

13:36:40 <hadleybeeman> topic: Next working draft of the BP document

2. Next working draft of the BP document

13:37:08 <hadleybeeman> BernadetteLoscio: We made some changes in the doc, in the content section

Bernadette Farias Loscio: We made some changes in the doc, in the content section

13:37:16 <hadleybeeman> ... About versioning.

... About versioning.

13:37:22 <deirdrelee> latest bp draft: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Deirdre Lee: latest bp draft: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

13:37:27 <hadleybeeman> ...I kept the section about context.  We can improve it later

...I kept the section about context. We can improve it later

13:37:43 <hadleybeeman> ...The diagram of dataset versioning and distributions are in the versioning section.

...The diagram of dataset versioning and distributions are in the versioning section.

13:37:50 <Makx> present+

Makx Dekkers: present+

13:38:09 <hadleybeeman> ...We sent a message to the commenters to confirm their comments had been addressed.

...We sent a message to the commenters to confirm their comments had been addressed.

13:38:11 <deirdrelee> No open comments: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/

Deirdre Lee: No open comments: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/

13:38:17 <hadleybeeman> ...They said it's okay to move on. I've closed the comments.

...They said it's okay to move on. I've closed the comments.

13:38:18 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:38:25 <hadleybeeman> ...So I think we're all set now.

...So I think we're all set now.

13:39:01 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Great

Deirdre Lee: Great

13:39:11 <phila> Congrats on being able to say "we don't have any open comments" - that's excellent work

Phil Archer: Congrats on being able to say "we don't have any open comments" - that's excellent work

13:39:24 <hadleybeeman> ... A couple of comments on the mailing list. Any one want to discuss any of them?

... A couple of comments on the mailing list. Any one want to discuss any of them?

13:39:27 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

13:39:41 <hadleybeeman> BernadetteLoscio: I just read Annette's detailed message. It came in too late for me.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I just read Annette's detailed message. It came in too late for me.

13:39:46 <hadleybeeman> ...I haven't answered yet.

...I haven't answered yet.

13:39:59 <phila> -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html Latest version of the BP editor's draft

Phil Archer: -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html Latest version of the BP editor's draft

13:40:00 <hadleybeeman> ...Max also replied about versioning. I'm happy about this discussion

...Maxk also replied about versioning. I'm happy about this discussion

13:40:22 <hadleybeeman> s/Max/Maxk
13:40:39 <hadleybeeman> s/maxk/makx

s/maxk/makx (warning: replacement failed)

13:40:40 <hadleybeeman> ...As Makx said, we first need to understand what versioning means for us

...As Makx said, we first need to understand what versioning means for us

13:40:47 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g

Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g

13:41:08 <hadleybeeman> annette_g: There were a few items I thought we should consider before publishing

Annette Greiner: There were a few items I thought we should consider before publishing

13:41:24 <hadleybeeman> ...The versioning chart. The data identification section. The text doesn't agree with the actual BP there.

...The versioning chart. The data identification section. The text doesn't agree with the actual BP there.

13:41:27 <adler1> +1 annette

Steven Adler: +1 annette

13:41:37 <hadleybeeman> ...The data up-to-date one needed some attention too

...The data up-to-date one needed some attention too

13:41:49 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:42:09 <hadleybeeman> ...I feel a bit hurried to release it now, publish as it is.  The newer stuff feels rushed.

...I feel a bit hurried to release it now, publish as it is. The newer stuff feels rushed.

13:42:24 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Generally, it's still okay to have rushness, because they're still working drafts.

Deirdre Lee: Generally, it's still okay to have roughness, because they're still working drafts.

13:42:34 <hadleybeeman> s/rushness/roughness
13:43:00 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Last week we decided it's good to get things out there anyway, to provoke further discussion and work towards some answers

Deirdre Lee: Last week we decided it's good to get things out there anyway, to provoke further discussion and work towards some answers

13:43:19 <hadleybeeman> annette_g: That's good. I think we need more discussion. Though I'm not sure some of it may not be productive discussion

Annette Greiner: That's good. I think we need more discussion. Though I'm not sure some of it may not be productive discussion

13:43:24 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:43:30 <hadleybeeman> ... like how to implement REST

... like how to implement REST

13:43:39 <hadleybeeman> ...Not sure we should cover it

...Not sure we should cover it

13:43:47 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:43:48 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: We'll vote today anyway, and see how it goes

Deirdre Lee: We'll vote today anyway, and see how it goes

13:44:08 <hadleybeeman> phila: It is a fine line. In terms of being rushed, that's coming from me. Last publication of this was in February.

Phil Archer: It is a fine line. In terms of being rushed, that's coming from me. Last publication of this was in February.

13:44:16 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:44:20 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:44:31 <hadleybeeman> ...The current state is significantly better than the FPWD. Of course there are still things open. Still work left to do.

...The current state is significantly better than the FPWD. Of course there are still things open. Still work left to do.

13:44:41 <BernadetteLoscio> -q

Bernadette Farias Loscio: -q

13:44:42 <hadleybeeman> ...But it's a question of showing progress.  That's what publishing would do.

...But it's a question of showing progress. That's what publishing would do.

13:44:45 <Caroline> +1 to phila

Caroline Burle: +1 to phila

13:44:56 <hadleybeeman> ...But if you see an error, or don't want to put your name to it, then vote against it.

...But if you see an error, or don't want to put your name to it, then vote against it.

13:45:08 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:45:24 <hadleybeeman> ...Do you think the current version shows progress? Does that outweigh concerns about roughness? it is a balance.

...Do you think the current version shows progress? Does that outweigh concerns about roughness? it is a balance.

13:45:30 <hadleybeeman> ...Personally, I think we should get it out there

...Personally, I think we should get it out there

13:45:37 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Time for a vote

Deirdre Lee: Time for a vote

13:45:40 <yaso_> o/

Yaso Córdova: o/

13:45:51 <phila> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Phil Archer: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

13:45:58 <hadleybeeman> PROPOSED: To publish http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html as a new Public Working Draft

PROPOSED: To publish http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html as a new Public Working Draft

13:46:00 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:46:00 <hadleybeeman> +1

+1

13:46:06 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:46:06 <annette_g> -1

Annette Greiner: -1

13:46:11 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:46:12 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:46:14 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

13:46:15 <Caroline> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

13:46:16 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:46:17 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

13:46:18 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:46:19 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:46:19 <Makx> +1

Makx Dekkers: +1

13:46:35 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:46:41 <hadleybeeman> ack phil

ack phil

13:46:44 <yaso_> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

13:46:47 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:47:00 <hadleybeeman> phila: annette_g, how strongly do you feel? Would you be prepared to allow us to flag your issues, put them in the document?

Phil Archer: annette_g, how strongly do you feel? Would you be prepared to allow us to flag your issues, put them in the document?

13:47:11 <BernadetteLoscio> +q

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +q

13:47:16 <hadleybeeman> ...Would you be happy if we added your specific concerns? Would that be sufficient to allow it to go forward?

...Would you be happy if we added your specific concerns? Would that be sufficient to allow it to go forward?

13:47:25 <hadleybeeman> annette_g: Yes, that would be great.

Annette Greiner: Yes, that would be great.

13:47:39 <laufer> rollback

Carlos Laufer: rollback

13:47:55 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

13:47:59 <BernadetteLoscio> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html

Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html

13:48:03 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio

Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio

13:48:23 <phila> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html Annette's e-mail

Phil Archer: -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html Annette's e-mail

13:48:33 <phila> -1 to more discussion delaying pub by another week

Phil Archer: -1 to more discussion delaying pub by another week

13:48:39 <Caroline> +1 BernadetteLoscio

Caroline Burle: +1 BernadetteLoscio

13:48:43 <hadleybeeman> BernadetteLoscio: We could delay another week to resolve this.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: We could delay another week to resolve this.

13:48:53 <laufer> I think we can include an issue with the comments of makx about version and distribution...

Carlos Laufer: I think we can include an issue with the comments of makx about version and distribution...

13:48:56 <phila> thanks

Phil Archer: thanks

13:48:59 <phila> OK :-)

Phil Archer: OK :-)

13:49:03 <Caroline> to put as issues annette_g's points

Caroline Burle: to put as issues annette_g's points

13:49:03 <hadleybeeman> s/we could delay another week/we could publish this version and move forward with a longer discussion

s/we could delay another week/we could publish this version and move forward with a longer discussion (warning: replacement failed)

13:49:07 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:49:27 <BernadetteLoscio> great ;)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: great ;)

13:49:31 <hadleybeeman> annette_g: Many more issues on that list from my email than I feel would block publication. I think we only need to mark the ones with an asterix

Annette Greiner: Many more issues on that list from my email than I feel would block publication. I think we only need to mark the ones with an asterix

13:49:31 <Caroline> :)))

Caroline Burle: :)))

13:49:43 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:49:44 <hadleybeeman> PROPOSED: that the editors are asked to insert specific issues raised with an asterix by annette_g in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html, and to publish http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html as a new Public Working Draft

PROPOSED: that the editors are asked to insert specific issues raised with an asterix by annette_g in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html, and to publish http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html as a new Public Working Draft

13:49:48 <phila> q-

Phil Archer: q-

13:49:51 <hadleybeeman> ack anne

ack anne

13:49:58 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:49:59 <hadleybeeman> +1

+1

13:49:59 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:50:00 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:50:00 <Caroline> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

13:50:00 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

13:50:01 <phila> +1

Phil Archer: +1

13:50:03 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:50:03 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:50:04 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:50:05 <Makx> +1

Makx Dekkers: +1

13:50:06 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

13:50:07 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:50:08 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:50:11 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

13:50:11 <PeterWinstanley> +1

Peter Winstanley: +1

13:50:15 <giancarlo_guizzardi> +1

Giancarlo Guizzardi: +1

13:50:22 <hadleybeeman> RESOLVED: that the editors are asked to insert specific issues raised by annette_g in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html, and to publish http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html as a new Public Working Draft

RESOLVED: that the editors are asked to insert specific issues raised by annette_g in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0087.html, and to publish http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html as a new Public Working Draft

13:50:24 <BernadetteLoscio> :):):):)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: :):):):)

13:50:32 <RiccardoAlbertoni> congrats

Riccardo Albertoni: congrats

13:50:35 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:50:39 <annette_g> :) !!

Annette Greiner: :) !!

13:50:45 <laufer> Congrats, Bernadette, Newton and Caroline!

Carlos Laufer: Congrats, Bernadette, Newton and Caroline!

13:50:55 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: That leaves us with the next pwd of the BP and the FPWD of the vocabularies that we voted a few weeks ago... phila, what's next?

Deirdre Lee: That leaves us with the next pwd of the BP and the FPWD of the vocabularies that we voted a few weeks ago... phila, what's next?

13:50:57 <BernadetteLoscio> Thanks laufer!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Thanks laufer!

13:51:13 <hadleybeeman> phila: It's with me. There is a new process coming to go from GitHub straight to our publication process, but it's not ready.

Phil Archer: It's with me. There is a new process coming to go from GitHub straight to our publication process, but it's not ready.

13:51:23 <hadleybeeman> ...BernadetteLoscio, when you've added those issues in, tell me.

...BernadetteLoscio, when you've added those issues in, tell me.

13:51:24 <newton> Thanks laufer

Newton Calegari: Thanks laufer

13:51:39 <hadleybeeman> ...We can publish them for Thursday

...We can publish them for Thursday

13:51:52 <hadleybeeman> ...BernadetteLoscio and Newton: I'm working on an SVG version of your diagram

...BernadetteLoscio and Newton: I'm working on an SVG version of your diagram

13:52:03 <hadleybeeman> ...It should be included in your diagram.

...It should be included in your diagram.

13:52:06 <phila> q-

Phil Archer: q-

13:52:22 <hadleybeeman> BernadetteLoscio: Great! I tried to do that, but didn't get there.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Great! I tried to do that, but didn't get there.

13:52:29 <hadleybeeman> phila: I used notepad

Phil Archer: I used notepad

13:52:37 <hadleybeeman> BernadetteLoscio: I tried to do it on Google Drive

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I tried to do it on Google Drive

13:52:59 <phila> (actually, PS Pad, but you get the idea)

Phil Archer: (actually, PS Pad, but you get the idea)

13:52:59 <annette_g> wouldn't it be way faster and easier to do an SVG with a vector drawing program?

Annette Greiner: wouldn't it be way faster and easier to do an SVG with a vector drawing program?

13:53:08 <hadleybeeman> phila: I need the publishable versions of all the documents by the end of Monday, to publish them on Thursday.

Phil Archer: I need the publishable versions of all the documents by the end of Monday, to publish them on Thursday.

13:53:09 <adler1> tweeted

Steven Adler: tweeted

13:53:11 <laufer> Welcome Webex! Thank you Zakim!

Carlos Laufer: Welcome Webex! Thank you Zakim!

13:53:15 <phila> Yes, but my code is better :-) Annette

Phil Archer: Yes, but my code is better :-) Annette

13:53:17 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks Deirdre!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks Deirdre!!!

13:53:29 <hadleybeeman> topic: wrapping up

3. wrapping up

13:53:46 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Next week, we will work on the next big issue. Are we going to extend DCAT?

Deirdre Lee: Next week, we will work on the next big issue. Are we going to extend DCAT?

13:54:15 <hadleybeeman> ... versioning, time series, all of those issues deeply -- will that commit us to a new vocabulary? Do we have the resources to do that? Or is that for another working group?

... versioning, time series, all of those issues deeply -- will that commit us to a new vocabulary? Do we have the resources to do that? Or is that for another working group?

13:54:42 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:54:48 <hadleybeeman> ...Other than that, we can go back to alternating between the documents: Data Usage next week, then Data Quality, then back to BP

...Other than that, we can go back to alternating between the documents: Data Usage next week, then Data Quality, then back to BP

13:54:56 <laufer> as antoine said... the D*V collection

Carlos Laufer: as antoine said... the D*V collection

13:55:02 <Caroline> q+ to suggest a deadline to decide about the d2d

Caroline Burle: q+ to suggest a deadline to decide about the f2f

13:55:04 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: [closing the call]

Deirdre Lee: [closing the call]

13:55:08 <Caroline> s/d2d/f2f
13:55:10 <hadleybeeman> ack c

ack c

13:55:10 <Zakim> Caroline, you wanted to suggest a deadline to decide about the d2d

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, you wanted to suggest a deadline to decide about the d2d

13:55:38 <annette_g> +1 for deciding early

Annette Greiner: +1 for deciding early

13:55:38 <hadleybeeman> Caroline: I suggest we set a deadline to decide about the f2f.  This week?

Caroline Burle: I suggest we set a deadline to decide about the f2f. This week?

13:55:53 <hadleybeeman> ...It would be important to decide by the end of next week, so we can make arrangements. For this and the conference too.

...It would be important to decide by the end of next week, so we can make arrangements. For this and the conference too.

13:55:59 <yaso_> +1 to decide until Friday

Yaso Córdova: +1 to decide until Friday

13:56:01 <antoine> phila: for the DQV the github version is the definitive one. We've done all editorial changes we wanted to do last time we discussed the draft, two weeks ago.

Phil Archer: for the DQV the github version is the definitive one. We've done all editorial changes we wanted to do last time we discussed the draft, two weeks ago. [ Scribe Assist by Antoine Isaac ]

13:56:17 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Okay, Caroline. Would it help to add a "what do you think" table in the wiki?

Deirdre Lee: Okay, Caroline. Would it help to add a "what do you think" table in the wiki?

13:56:20 <phila> Thanks Antoine - I'll take that version then. Thanks

Phil Archer: Thanks Antoine - I'll take that version then. Thanks

13:56:27 <hadleybeeman> ...So people can enter their info in one place?

...So people can enter their info in one place?

13:56:42 <yaso_> we already had a page on the wiki with that

Yaso Córdova: we already had a page on the wiki with that

13:56:45 <hadleybeeman> Caroline: I'm not sure that will be useful, but we can try.  Last time it wasn't useful.  Maybe email is better.

Caroline Burle: I'm not sure that will be useful, but we can try. Last time it wasn't useful. Maybe email is better.

13:56:51 <yaso_> agree

Yaso Córdova: agree

13:57:16 <hadleybeeman> ...Given how many variables there are here, discussion is helpful.

...Given how many variables there are here, discussion is helpful.

13:57:35 <hadleybeeman> deirdrelee: Okay. Everyone please send an email to the list THIS WEEK to explain your situation for the face-to-face.

Deirdre Lee: Okay. Everyone please send an email to the list THIS WEEK to explain your situation for the face-to-face.

13:57:36 <adler1> ciao

Steven Adler: ciao

13:57:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx deirdrelee

Bart van Leeuwen: thx deirdrelee

13:57:41 <MTCarrasco> bye

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye

13:57:45 <BernadetteLoscio> enjoy ;)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: enjoy ;)

13:57:46 <phila> https://www.w3.org/2015/05/zakim

Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2015/05/zakim

13:57:47 <laufer> bye all...  nice wknd...  tchau...

Carlos Laufer: bye all... nice wknd... tchau...

13:57:48 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Thanks ... have good week-end!

Riccardo Albertoni: Thanks ... have good week-end!

13:57:49 <BernadetteLoscio> tchau!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: tchau!!!

13:57:50 <annette_g> bye!

Annette Greiner: bye!

13:57:51 <newton> bye

Newton Calegari: bye

13:57:52 <giancarlo_guizzardi> bye

Giancarlo Guizzardi: bye

13:58:13 <yaso_> bye

Yaso Córdova: bye

13:58:21 <SumitPurohit> bye

Sumit Purohit: bye

13:58:24 <PeterWinstanley> bye

Peter Winstanley: bye

13:58:26 <Caroline> bye!

Caroline Burle: bye!



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