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12:57:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
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12:57:51 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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12:57:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:57:52 <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2015
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12:59:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
12:59:17 <phila> zakim, [ is me
Phil Archer: zakim, [ is me ←
12:59:17 <Zakim> +phila; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it ←
12:59:27 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150313
Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150313 ←
12:59:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
12:59:50 <deirdrelee> Guest: Newton Calegari
12:59:50 <deirdrelee> zakim, ipcaller is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
12:59:50 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
13:00:23 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
13:00:43 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P15 is me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P15 is me ←
13:00:43 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it ←
13:00:58 <MTCarrasco> zakim, mute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, mute me ←
13:00:58 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should now be muted ←
13:01:01 <Zakim> + +1.617.646.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.646.aaaa ←
13:01:42 <Zakim> +annette_g
Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g ←
13:02:16 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:02:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco (muted), +1.617.646.aaaa, annette_g
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco (muted), +1.617.646.aaaa, annette_g ←
13:02:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, annette_g, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, yaso, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, annette_g, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, yaso, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot ←
13:02:37 <deirdrelee> zakim, aaaa is SumitPurohit
Deirdre Lee: zakim, aaaa is SumitPurohit ←
13:02:37 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit; got it ←
13:03:06 <MTCarrasco> zakim, umnute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, umnute me ←
13:03:06 <Zakim> I don't understand 'umnute me', MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'umnute me', MTCarrasco ←
13:03:28 <deirdrelee> scribe: annette_g
(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)
13:03:43 <Zakim> +Reinaldo
Zakim IRC Bot: +Reinaldo ←
13:03:55 <newton> Zakim, Reinaldo is yaso
Newton Calegari: Zakim, Reinaldo is yaso ←
13:03:55 <Zakim> +yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it ←
13:04:11 <newton> Zakim, yaso has newton, Caroline_
Newton Calegari: Zakim, yaso has newton, Caroline_ ←
13:04:11 <Zakim> +newton, Caroline_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +newton, Caroline_; got it ←
13:04:18 <MTCarrasco> zakim, unmute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, unmute me ←
13:04:18 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should no longer be muted ←
13:04:24 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:04:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, SumitPurohit, annette_g, yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, SumitPurohit, annette_g, yaso ←
13:04:27 <Zakim> yaso has newton, Caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso has newton, Caroline_ ←
13:04:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see adler1, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, newton, laufer, annette_g, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, yaso, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see adler1, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, newton, laufer, annette_g, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, yaso, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot ←
13:04:36 <yaso1> Zakim, Reinaldo is yaso
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Reinaldo is yaso ←
13:04:36 <Zakim> sorry, yaso1, I do not recognize a party named 'Reinaldo'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso1, I do not recognize a party named 'Reinaldo' ←
13:04:55 <Zakim> + +1.516.944.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.516.944.aabb ←
13:05:00 <newton> Zakim, yaso1 is yaso
Newton Calegari: Zakim, yaso1 is yaso ←
13:05:00 <Zakim> sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso1'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso1' ←
13:05:05 <adler1> zakim, aabb is me
Steven Adler: zakim, aabb is me ←
13:05:05 <Zakim> +adler1; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1; got it ←
13:05:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:05:10 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
13:05:10 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
13:05:14 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: we should always plan the date according to UCT
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we should always plan the date according to UCT ←
13:05:25 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:05:25 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
13:05:32 <annette_g> deirdrelee: our system uses EST
Deirdre Lee: our system uses EST ←
13:05:41 <Caroline_> q+ about time difference
Caroline Burle: q+ about time difference ←
13:05:48 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:05:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, SumitPurohit, annette_g, yaso, adler1, BernadetteLoscio (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, SumitPurohit, annette_g, yaso, adler1, BernadetteLoscio (muted) ←
13:05:51 <Zakim> yaso has newton, Caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso has newton, Caroline_ ←
13:05:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see yaso1, adler1, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, newton, laufer, annette_g, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, yaso, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see yaso1, adler1, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, newton, laufer, annette_g, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, yaso, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, ←
13:05:51 <Zakim> ... trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot ←
13:05:56 <annette_g> phila: we can do it either way, but there is always some confusion
Phil Archer: we can do it either way, but there is always some confusion ←
13:05:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:06:01 <MTCarrasco> zakim, mute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, mute me ←
13:06:01 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should now be muted ←
13:06:14 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:06:14 <Zakim> sorry, laufer, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, laufer, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
13:06:20 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-03-06
PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-03-06 ←
13:06:28 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:06:28 <laufer> zakim, IPcaller is me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:06:28 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it ←
13:06:35 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:06:37 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:06:37 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:06:38 <yaso1> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:06:40 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
13:06:42 <phila> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:06:44 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:06:45 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:06:52 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:06:55 <phila> zakim, who is noisy?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is noisy? ←
13:06:58 <laufer> 0 (was not here)
Carlos Laufer: 0 (was not here) ←
13:07:06 <Zakim> phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (95%), yaso (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (95%), yaso (9%) ←
13:07:14 <annette_g> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes
RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes ←
13:07:32 <yaso1> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:07:35 <yaso1> q-
Yaso Córdova: q- ←
13:07:50 <Caroline_> if we keep USA time is easier because Zakim is attached to it. So we may consider the diferent timezones based on USA
Caroline Burle: if we keep USA time is easier because Zakim is attached to it. So we may consider the diferent timezones based on USA ←
13:07:51 <annette_g> deirdrelee: should we switch the system to use UTC?
Deirdre Lee: should we switch the system to use UTC? ←
13:07:56 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:08:06 <adler1> agree!
Steven Adler: agree! ←
13:08:24 <adler1> yes, ET is best :)
Steven Adler: yes, ET is best :) ←
13:08:25 <annette_g> Caroline: we should only consider Zakim time, EST
Caroline Burle: we should only consider Zakim time, EST ←
13:08:31 <annette_g> q+
q+ ←
13:09:00 <adler1> it is New York time
Steven Adler: it is New York time ←
13:09:05 <adler1> Boston is a minor city
Steven Adler: Boston is a minor city ←
13:09:12 <Caroline_> Suggestion - consider Boston time, even when is changes to Winter or Summer time! :)
Caroline Burle: Suggestion - consider Boston time, even when is changes to Winter or Summer time! :) ←
13:09:17 <annette_g> Annette: Zakim is EDT
Annette Greiner: Zakim is EDT ←
13:09:20 <adler1> we have more Irish in NY
Steven Adler: we have more Irish in NY ←
13:09:28 <annette_g> phila: let's just call it Boston time (Cambridge time)
Phil Archer: let's just call it Boston time (Cambridge time) ←
13:09:39 <Caroline_> +1 to phila
Caroline Burle: +1 to phila ←
13:09:57 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:10:09 <MTCarrasco> +1 as it is easier Boston time
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1 as it is easier Boston time ←
13:10:17 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:10:17 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted ←
13:10:19 <annette_g> deirdrelee: we need to get back to issues. First half hour is dedicated to Best Practies.
Deirdre Lee: we need to get back to issues. First half hour is dedicated to Best Practies. ←
13:10:42 <MTCarrasco> zakim, mute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, mute me ←
13:10:42 <Zakim> MTCarrasco was already muted, MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco was already muted, MTCarrasco ←
13:11:06 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: was talking with Newton about issues. They selected most important issues for metadata
Bernadette Farias Loscio: was talking with Newton about issues. They selected most important issues for metadata ←
13:11:35 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: they changed some numbers of issues.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: they changed some numbers of issues. ←
13:12:08 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: looking at notes from Chritophe, Annette, Don ??
Bernadette Farias Loscio: looking at notes from Chritophe, Annette, Don ?? ←
13:12:18 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:12:18 <newton> s/Dan ??/Dan Brickley
Newton Calegari: s/Dan ??/Dan Brickley (warning: replacement failed) ←
13:12:29 <annette_g> ack me
ack me ←
13:13:04 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: we need to discuss the organization of the BPs
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we need to discuss the organization of the BPs ←
13:13:20 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:14:09 <phila> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:14:25 <phila> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Mar/0031.html
Phil Archer: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Mar/0031.html ←
13:14:37 <phila> https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/BP%20Doc%20FPWD/
Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/BP%20Doc%20FPWD/ ←
13:14:46 <annette_g> phila: we have a new tool, comment tracker, tracks comments we receive (links above)
Phil Archer: we have a new tool, comment tracker, tracks comments we receive (links above) ←
13:15:06 <ericstephan> Sorry joining late, just got back in from a workshop at 1am this morning...
Eric Stephan: Sorry joining late, just got back in from a workshop at 1am this morning... ←
13:15:23 <annette_g> phila: at bottom of page, there are places for us to put notes, resolutions
Phil Archer: at bottom of page, there are places for us to put notes, resolutions ←
13:15:43 <deirdrelee> no worries Eric, welcome!
Deirdre Lee: no worries Eric, welcome! ←
13:15:49 <adler1> who is authorized to change status?
Steven Adler: who is authorized to change status? ←
13:16:07 <adler1> what happens if three different people change status
Steven Adler: what happens if three different people change status ←
13:16:13 <annette_g> phila: we can resolve yes/no/partial, put in pointer to resolution (point to minutes of the meeting)
Phil Archer: we can resolve yes/no/partial, put in pointer to resolution (point to minutes of the meeting) ←
13:16:15 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:16:40 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio
Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio ←
13:17:15 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: Christophe sent a list of comments, which will have more than one resolution
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Christophe sent a list of comments, which will have more than one resolution ←
13:17:43 <annette_g> phila: at the bottom, there's a link to add a comment. YOu can copy/paste a particular paragraph or the whole message
Phil Archer: at the bottom, there's a link to add a comment. YOu can copy/paste a particular paragraph or the whole message ←
13:17:54 <annette_g> you can use the separate comment approach
you can use the separate comment approach ←
13:17:57 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:18:00 <Zakim> +estephan
Zakim IRC Bot: +estephan ←
13:18:32 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: definition of metadata is an issue resolved by mail
Bernadette Farias Loscio: definition of metadata is an issue resolved by mail ←
13:19:02 <annette_g> phila: we do need to record that we resolved something, can be quick mention in a meeting
Phil Archer: we do need to record that we resolved something, can be quick mention in a meeting ←
13:19:26 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: I think we can do this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think we can do this ←
13:19:45 <annette_g> phila: editors need to decisde who puts comments into the tracker each time
Phil Archer: editors need to decide who puts comments into the tracker each time ←
13:19:58 <deirdrelee> ack adler1
Deirdre Lee: ack adler1 ←
13:19:59 <annette_g> s/decisde/decide
13:20:04 <deirdrelee> ack adler
Deirdre Lee: ack adler ←
13:20:18 <annette_g> adler1: do we add comemnts ourselves?
Steven Adler: do we add comemnts ourselves? ←
13:20:34 <phila> https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/
Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/ ←
13:21:17 <annette_g> phila: you can go straight there and click the comments link. It's only for comments made by email.
Phil Archer: you can go straight there and click the comments link. It's only for comments made by email. ←
13:21:46 <newton> The first issue related to the BP1 is http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/142
Newton Calegari: The first issue related to the BP1 is http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/142 ←
13:22:14 <phila> issue-142?
13:22:14 <trackbot> issue-142 -- About multilingualism -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-142 -- About multilingualism -- open ←
13:22:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/142
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/142 ←
13:22:36 <annette_g> newton: Max raised this issue
Newton Calegari: Makx raised this issue ←
13:22:43 <newton> s/Max/Makx
13:22:46 <phila> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0240.html Makx's comments
Phil Archer: -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0240.html Makx's comments ←
13:23:08 <annette_g> adler1: is the issue that metadata's always in English?
Steven Adler: is the issue that metadata's always in English? ←
13:23:37 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:23:49 <annette_g> deirdrelee: we want to make sure everyone is happy with each bP
Deirdre Lee: we want to make sure everyone is happy with each bP ←
13:24:48 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:24:51 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: it's important that we are happy with the organization and each of the three BPs. Others are specializations of these ones.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: it's important that we are happy with the organization and each of the three BPs. Others are specializations of these ones. ←
13:25:03 <deirdrelee> ack adler
Deirdre Lee: ack adler ←
13:25:10 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:25:14 <annette_g> adler1: excellent topic.
Steven Adler: excellent topic. ←
13:25:46 <annette_g> are we going to allow people in Brazil to write metadata in Portuguese, Germans in German?
are we going to allow people in Brazil to write metadata in Portuguese, Germans in German? ←
13:25:58 <MTCarrasco> zakim, unmute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, unmute me ←
13:25:58 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should no longer be muted ←
13:26:01 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:26:02 <annette_g> phila: suggests use native language, add English if possible
Phil Archer: suggests use native language, add English if possible ←
13:26:03 <BernadetteLoscio> q=
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q= ←
13:26:50 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: I think we're talking about different things. Docuemnt metadata means to provide metadat. It should be provided in more than one language. If we use standard terms, they should be in English.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think we're talking about different things. Docuemnt metadata means to provide metadat. It should be provided in more than one language. If we use standard terms, they should be in English. ←
13:26:52 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
13:26:58 <deirdrelee> q-
Deirdre Lee: q- ←
13:27:32 <phila> q+ to talk about multilingual schemata
Phil Archer: q+ to talk about multilingual schemata ←
13:27:58 <annette_g> adler1: agrees that those are the issues. Do we need to write a BP that normalizes multilingual metadata so that it can be understood by machines and humans. In the future, we might have things conforming but that might not be apparent to machines.
Steven Adler: agrees that those are the issues. Do we need to write a BP that normalizes multilingual metadata so that it can be understood by machines and humans. In the future, we might have things conforming but that might not be apparent to machines. ←
13:27:59 <yaso1> q?
Yaso Córdova: q? ←
13:27:59 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:28:16 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: But we're talking about standard vocabularies, no?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: But we're talking about standard vocabularies, no? ←
13:28:34 <annette_g> adler1: you have the standard terms but also the values
Steven Adler: you have the standard terms but also the values ←
13:28:54 <deirdrelee> ack MTCarrasco
Deirdre Lee: ack MTCarrasco ←
13:29:19 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: three items: name of element (must be the same in all languages), content of the element.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: three items: name of element (must be the same in all languages), content of the element. ←
13:30:02 <annette_g> With content you have some that are not language dependent and some, like descriptions, that are
With content you have some that are not language dependent and some, like descriptions, that are ←
13:30:26 <adler1> well said
Steven Adler: well said ←
13:30:28 <laufer> zakim, unmute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←
13:30:28 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted ←
13:30:33 <deirdrelee> ack laufer
Deirdre Lee: ack laufer ←
13:30:53 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:30:57 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:31:44 <annette_g> laufer: each publisher will choose the language for the content that they think is suitable, but vocabularies are defined in the language of the vocab writers. We can recommend, but we can't be overly assertive about this.
Carlos Laufer: each publisher will choose the language for the content that they think is suitable, but vocabularies are defined in the language of the vocab writers. We can recommend, but we can't be overly assertive about this. ←
13:31:55 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:31:55 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:31:56 <deirdrelee> ack laufer
Deirdre Lee: ack laufer ←
13:31:59 <deirdrelee> ack phila
Deirdre Lee: ack phila ←
13:32:00 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about multilingual schemata
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to talk about multilingual schemata ←
13:32:00 <phila> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-bp/#vocabulary-checklist LD-BP
Phil Archer: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-bp/#vocabulary-checklist LD-BP ←
13:32:00 <annette_g> phila: agrees with laufer
Phil Archer: agrees with laufer ←
13:32:20 <phila> -> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl DCAT namespace
Phil Archer: -> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl DCAT namespace ←
13:32:38 <annette_g> phila: the linked data BPs has something to say about this. DCAT is in multiple languages now.
Phil Archer: the linked data BPs has something to say about this. DCAT is in multiple languages now. ←
13:32:58 <annette_g> phila: whataver you use, it's the same vocab
Phil Archer: whataver you use, it's the same vocab ←
13:33:00 <adler1> nice
Steven Adler: nice ←
13:33:02 <Zakim> +??P32
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32 ←
13:33:12 <phila> zakim, who is noisy?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is noisy? ←
13:33:15 <annette_g> I cannot hear
I cannot hear ←
13:33:19 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute adler1
Caroline Burle: Zakim, mute adler1 ←
13:33:19 <Zakim> adler1 should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: adler1 should now be muted ←
13:33:24 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute AdrianoC
Caroline Burle: Zakim, mute AdrianoC ←
13:33:25 <Zakim> phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (31%), MTCarrasco (4%), laufer (8%)
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (31%), MTCarrasco (4%), laufer (8%) ←
13:33:25 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to AdrianoC
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to AdrianoC ←
13:33:26 <AdrianoC> Zakim, ??P32 is AdrianoC
Adriano Pereira: Zakim, ??P32 is AdrianoC ←
13:33:28 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AdrianoC; got it ←
13:33:29 <adler1> I am muted on my phone
Steven Adler: I am muted on my phone ←
13:33:33 <phila> zakim, mute laufer
Phil Archer: zakim, mute laufer ←
13:33:33 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:33:33 <newton> Zakim, mute +??P32
Newton Calegari: Zakim, mute +??P32 ←
13:33:34 <Zakim> sorry, newton, I do not know which phone connection belongs to +??P32
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, newton, I do not know which phone connection belongs to +??P32 ←
13:33:36 <laufer> hey P32!!!
Carlos Laufer: hey P32!!! ←
13:33:42 <Caroline_> Zakim, unmute adler1
Caroline Burle: Zakim, unmute adler1 ←
13:33:42 <Zakim> adler1 should no longer be muted
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13:33:43 <phila> zakim, mute MTCarrasco
Phil Archer: zakim, mute MTCarrasco ←
13:33:43 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should now be muted ←
13:33:44 <newton> Zakim, mute AdrianoC
Newton Calegari: Zakim, mute AdrianoC ←
13:33:44 <Zakim> AdrianoC should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: AdrianoC should now be muted ←
13:33:49 <phila> zakim, unmute laufer
Phil Archer: zakim, unmute laufer ←
13:33:49 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted ←
13:33:56 <phila> ack deirdrelee
Phil Archer: ack deirdrelee ←
13:34:03 <MTCarrasco> zakim, unmute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, unmute me ←
13:34:03 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should no longer be muted ←
13:34:12 <BernadetteLoscio> +q
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +q ←
13:34:15 <AdrianoC> Sorry, I am in a crowd place and my mic was on! :-}
Adriano Pereira: Sorry, I am in a crowd place and my mic was on! :-} ←
13:34:31 <annette_g> deirdrelee: I agres with what previous people said, we should include it in the BP doc. We have a pretty concrete approach.
Deirdre Lee: I agres with what previous people said, we should include it in the BP doc. We have a pretty concrete approach. ←
13:34:34 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:34:35 <annette_g> * resolution?
* resolution? ←
13:35:08 <deirdrelee> ack MTCarrasco
Deirdre Lee: ack MTCarrasco ←
13:35:29 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: we should have a language neutral code.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we should have a language neutral code. ←
13:35:29 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee ←
13:36:12 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: when people publish, they must follow certain rules. It depends on who they are publishing to.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: when people publish, they must follow certain rules. It depends on who they are publishing to. ←
13:36:29 <phila> Hmmm... http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat#Catalog is the code. The labels are "Catalog"@en, "Catálogo"@es, "Κατάλογος"@el, "カタログ"@ja;
Phil Archer: Hmmm... http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat#Catalog is the code. The labels are "Catalog"@en, "Catálogo"@es, "Κατάλογος"@el, "カタログ"@ja; ←
13:36:41 <Caroline_> I think deirdrelee is not on the phone
Caroline Burle: I think deirdrelee is not on the phone ←
13:36:42 <laufer> I think this is an issue thta is now particular to the web
Carlos Laufer: I think this is an issue thta is now particular to the web ←
13:37:12 <annette_g> phila: does that cover what you want with a code?
Phil Archer: does that cover what you want with a code? ←
13:37:16 <phila> "Una colección conservada de metadatos de conjuntos de datos"@es;
Phil Archer: "Una colección conservada de metadatos de conjuntos de datos"@es; ←
13:37:20 <adler1> he means the content that the definition describes
Steven Adler: he means the content that the definition describes ←
13:37:24 <phila> "A curated collection of metadata about datasets"@en;
Phil Archer: "A curated collection of metadata about datasets"@en; ←
13:37:41 <phila> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat#Catalog
Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat#Catalog ←
13:37:45 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: there should be a sentence there
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: there should be a sentence there ←
13:37:59 <annette_g> ah, yes, excellent
ah, yes, excellent ←
13:38:24 <annette_g> phila: the label is any number of names that you call the element
Phil Archer: the label is any number of names that you call the element ←
13:38:38 <MTCarrasco> title=t123
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: title=t123 ←
13:38:41 <annette_g> but the code is the same no matter which language you use
but the code is the same no matter which language you use ←
13:38:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:39:02 <deirdrelee_> zakim, ipcaller is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
13:39:02 <Zakim> +deirdrelee_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee_; got it ←
13:39:04 <laufer> you have the same uri that define the property... and they have labels...
Carlos Laufer: you have the same uri that define the property... and they have labels... ←
13:39:06 <deirdrelee_> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:39:19 <annette_g> phila: can also be done in XML
Phil Archer: can also be done in XML ←
13:39:49 <annette_g> we should say that you should use multilingual labels
we should say that you should use multilingual labels ←
13:40:19 <phila> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
13:41:09 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: I agree that we should talk about this in the BP
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I agree that we should talk about this in the BP ←
13:41:31 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:41:38 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio
Phil Archer: ack BernadetteLoscio ←
13:41:45 <annette_g> but this is something for the vocabularies BP
but this is something for the vocabularies BP ←
13:42:09 <phila> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:42:10 <adler1> yes
Steven Adler: yes ←
13:42:39 <phila> PROPOSED: That we include a Best Practice to cover multingualism
PROPOSED: That we include a Best Practice to cover multingualism ←
13:42:46 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: we can propose something for how to incorporate this into the BPs
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we can propose something for how to incorporate this into the BPs ←
13:42:47 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:42:56 <MTCarrasco> We have to address the multilingual metadata aspects - either inside the doc or new one
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: We have to address the multilingual metadata aspects - either inside the doc or new one ←
13:42:58 <laufer> 0
Carlos Laufer: 0 ←
13:43:00 <Caroline_> +1 to BernadetteLoscio
Caroline Burle: +1 to BernadetteLoscio ←
13:43:01 <deirdrelee_> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:43:04 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:43:06 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:43:07 <phila> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:43:23 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:43:32 <laufer> I agree with bernadette that could be a comment...
Carlos Laufer: I agree with bernadette that could be a comment... ←
13:43:43 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:43:49 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:43:53 <phila> PROPOSED: That we include multingualism in the Best Practice document
PROPOSED: That we include multingualism in the Best Practice document ←
13:43:59 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
13:44:01 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:44:02 <phila> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:44:04 <deirdrelee_> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:44:07 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:44:10 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:44:10 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:44:13 <phila> RESOLVED: That we include multingualism in the Best Practice document
RESOLVED: That we include multingualism in the Best Practice document ←
13:44:15 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:44:17 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:44:26 <annette_g> phila:
13:44:29 <phila> close issue-142
Phil Archer: close ISSUE-142 ←
13:44:29 <trackbot> Closed issue-142.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-142. ←
13:45:15 <phila> action: bernadette to work with Newton and Carol to include multilingualism in the best practice document as per resolution of Issue-142
ACTION: bernadette to work with Newton and Carol to include multilingualism in the best practice document as per resolution of ISSUE-142 ←
13:45:16 <annette_g> deirdrelee_: seems like we should spend the whole meeting on the BP doc
Deirdre Lee: seems like we should spend the whole meeting on the BP doc ←
13:45:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-144 - Work with newton and carol to include multilingualism in the best practice document as per resolution of issue-142 [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2015-03-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-144 - Work with newton and carol to include multilingualism in the best practice document as per resolution of ISSUE-142 [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2015-03-20]. ←
13:45:28 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/76
Newton Calegari: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/76 ←
13:45:47 <newton> We could talk about the Issue-76
Newton Calegari: We could talk about the ISSUE-76 ←
13:45:52 <phila> issue-76?
13:45:52 <trackbot> issue-76 -- What advice do we give about publishing metadata so that we identify the intended outcome without making assumptions that maybe false? -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-76 -- What advice do we give about publishing metadata so that we identify the intended outcome without making assumptions that maybe false? -- open ←
13:45:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/76
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/76 ←
13:45:53 <deirdrelee_> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:46:07 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: next issue was raised during the F2F by Hadley
Bernadette Farias Loscio: next issue was raised during the F2F by Hadley ←
13:46:17 <annette_g> I don't understand it very well
I don't understand it very well ←
13:46:41 <annette_g> phila: hard to know without Hadley here
Phil Archer: hard to know without Hadley here ←
13:47:06 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: next one is 136, about organization of BPs for metadata, proposed by Carlos
Bernadette Farias Loscio: next one is 136, about organization of BPs for metadata, proposed by Carlos ←
13:47:27 <annette_g> about the initial version
about the initial version ←
13:47:35 <annette_g> The doc has changed since then
The doc has changed since then ←
13:47:51 <deirdrelee_> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/136
Deirdre Lee: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/136 ←
13:48:11 <adler1> agree
Steven Adler: agree ←
13:48:13 <adler1> too general
Steven Adler: too general ←
13:48:25 <phila> issue-136?
13:48:25 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: saying that metadata should be provided is too general
Bernadette Farias Loscio: saying that metadata should be provided is too general ←
13:48:25 <trackbot> issue-136 -- Proposal for Metadata BP -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-136 -- Proposal for Metadata BP -- open ←
13:48:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/136
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/136 ←
13:48:42 <laufer> I think BP1 + BP2 say that
Carlos Laufer: I think BP1 + BP2 say that ←
13:48:50 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: I'm happy with it
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I'm happy with it ←
13:49:19 <adler1> should we insist on vocabulary specific metadata?
Steven Adler: should we insist on vocabulary specific metadata? ←
13:49:39 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: how can we provide an implementation for this?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: how can we provide an implementation for this? ←
13:49:46 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:49:49 <annette_g> how are we going to test this?
how are we going to test this? ←
13:50:20 <annette_g> there are also other BPs that assume metadata is provided
there are also other BPs that assume metadata is provided ←
13:50:51 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: they should not be two different metadata sets, just one that is both human and machien readable
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: they should not be two different metadata sets, just one that is both human and machien readable ←
13:50:59 <annette_g> s/machein/machine
s/machein/machine (warning: replacement failed) ←
13:51:10 <MTCarrasco> http://dragoman.org/hmformat.html
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://dragoman.org/hmformat.html ←
13:51:26 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: we shouldn't have a BP that can't be tested
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we shouldn't have a BP that can't be tested ←
13:51:53 <annette_g> adler1: I think BernadetteLoscio and MTCarrasco are both correct, but it's a question of how much documentation you provide
Steven Adler: I think BernadetteLoscio and MTCarrasco are both correct, but it's a question of how much documentation you provide ←
13:52:46 <annette_g> adler1: just did some work trying to solve this stuff for two countries in Africa. He realized you just don't find consistent metadat. It's up to us to provide guidance.
Steven Adler: just did some work trying to solve this stuff for two countries in Africa. He realized you just don't find consistent metadat. It's up to us to provide guidance. ←
13:52:57 <phila> q+ to talk about the inevitable
Phil Archer: q+ to talk about the inevitable ←
13:52:59 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:53:09 <MTCarrasco> Implementation guidence +1
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Implementation guidence +1 ←
13:53:10 <annette_g> adler1: we have to go beyond what we have so far and provide implementation guidance
Steven Adler: we have to go beyond what we have so far and provide implementation guidance ←
13:53:11 <deirdrelee_> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:53:16 <deirdrelee_> ack adler1
Deirdre Lee: ack adler1 ←
13:53:21 <deirdrelee_> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:53:23 <annette_g> phli
phli ←
13:53:24 <MTCarrasco> In medicine http://www.ich.org
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: In medicine http://www.ich.org ←
13:53:26 <deirdrelee_> ack adler
Deirdre Lee: ack adler ←
13:53:32 <annette_g> phila: Steve's point is right.
Phil Archer: Steve's point is right. ←
13:53:49 <laufer> I think the work that phil pointed can guide this idea of describing a dataset...
Carlos Laufer: I think the work that phil pointed can guide this idea of describing a dataset... ←
13:54:05 <annette_g> people want us to tell them exactly what to do. We're afraid that they'll run away if we tell them something too demanding
people want us to tell them exactly what to do. We're afraid that they'll run away if we tell them something too demanding ←
13:54:12 <adler1> lol
Steven Adler: lol ←
13:54:12 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:54:19 <deirdrelee_> ack phila
Deirdre Lee: ack phila ←
13:54:19 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about the inevitable
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to talk about the inevitable ←
13:54:21 <annette_g> phila: you can't just say "grow up"
Phil Archer: you can't just say "grow up" ←
13:54:43 <phila> Comply or Explain
Phil Archer: Comply or Explain ←
13:54:47 <annette_g> maybe there's a continuum between being too proscriptive and being too lenient.
maybe there's a continuum between being too proscriptive and being too lenient. ←
13:54:54 <adler1> Best Pracice: make metadata available, for example here is how one group did it...
Steven Adler: Best Pracice: make metadata available, for example here is how one group did it... ←
13:54:59 <laufer> we can have examples of doing the things like: http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/joejimbo/HCLSDatasetDescriptions/blob/master/Overview.html
Carlos Laufer: we can have examples of doing the things like: http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/joejimbo/HCLSDatasetDescriptions/blob/master/Overview.html ←
13:55:00 <annette_g> comply or explain is often used in government
comply or explain is often used in government ←
13:55:01 <yaso1> q?
Yaso Córdova: q? ←
13:55:05 <yaso1> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:55:33 <annette_g> If you can make the case for using something else, you can do that, but it can't just be "I don't like it"
If you can make the case for using something else, you can do that, but it can't just be "I don't like it" ←
13:55:39 <MTCarrasco> examples +1
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: examples +1 ←
13:55:40 <ericstephan> Best Practices either suggest them what to do for enticements, or "kick the can down the road" (figure it out on your own)
Eric Stephan: Best Practices either suggest them what to do for enticements, or "kick the can down the road" (figure it out on your own) ←
13:55:43 <annette_g> adler1: we could just provide examples, guidance
Steven Adler: we could just provide examples, guidance ←
13:55:45 <annette_g> q+
q+ ←
13:56:14 <annette_g> deirdrelee_: Steve just led up to my comment perfectly
Deirdre Lee: Steve just led up to my comment perfectly ←
13:56:32 <annette_g> people are looking for specifics, the how
people are looking for specifics, the how ←
13:56:56 <laufer> Maybe we have to define a virtual example that will illustrate our BPs...
Carlos Laufer: Maybe we have to define a virtual example that will illustrate our BPs... ←
13:57:03 <annette_g> we can start off by saying that they should use metadata, the next BP gets to the next level
we can start off by saying that they should use metadata, the next BP gets to the next level ←
13:57:30 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:57:31 <annette_g> we can recommend guildelines, like the European Commission does
we can recommend guildelines, like the European Commission does ←
13:57:54 <BernadetteLoscio> +q
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +q ←
13:58:08 <annette_g> If people say they already have their own, we can give them the mappings
If people say they already have their own, we can give them the mappings ←
13:58:19 <annette_g> to help them use the recommended approach
to help them use the recommended approach ←
13:58:25 <deirdrelee_> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:58:38 <deirdrelee_> ack deirdrelee_
Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee_ ←
13:58:42 <phila> zakim, close queue
Phil Archer: zakim, close queue ←
13:58:43 <Zakim> ok, phila, the speaker queue is closed
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila, the speaker queue is closed ←
13:58:44 <deirdrelee_> ack MTCarrasco
Deirdre Lee: ack MTCarrasco ←
13:58:49 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: we must give several concrete, detailed examples
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we must give several concrete, detailed examples ←
13:58:54 <annette_g> not just abstract ones
not just abstract ones ←
13:59:10 <annette_g> give example terminology
give example terminology ←
13:59:37 <annette_g> what is acceptable, what is mandatory
what is acceptable, what is mandatory ←
13:59:48 <adler1> remember, our goal is to influence and change behavior. Examples are non-binding but they do change expectations of behavior
Steven Adler: remember, our goal is to influence and change behavior. Examples are non-binding but they do change expectations of behavior ←
13:59:58 <phila> ack yaso1
Phil Archer: ack yaso1 ←
14:00:25 <annette_g> yaso1: there is a connection between this and another problem, that we are biased toward LD
Yaso Córdova: there is a connection between this and another problem, that we are biased toward LD ←
14:00:37 <deirdrelee_> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:00:41 <deirdrelee_> ack yaso
Deirdre Lee: ack yaso ←
14:01:31 <annette_g> yaso1: maybe we need to agree that we really are working based on LD concepts
Yaso Córdova: maybe we need to agree that we really are working based on LD concepts ←
14:01:57 <deirdrelee_> ack annette_g
Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g ←
14:02:17 <MTCarrasco> Start levels +1
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Start levels +1 ←
14:02:26 <deirdrelee_> annette_g: this relates to the question we had with using stars.
Annette Greiner: this relates to the question we had with using stars. [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ] ←
14:02:55 <deirdrelee_> ... agree with phila, we do need to get tough, we need to encourage people to use the best practices
Deirdre Lee: ... agree with phila, we do need to get tough, we need to encourage people to use the best practices ←
14:03:28 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: yes, we can have different approaches, not just saying this is the only one
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes, we can have different approaches, not just saying this is the only one ←
14:03:52 <annette_g> deirdrelee_: we can do that in the context of all our BPs
Deirdre Lee: we can do that in the context of all our BPs ←
14:04:08 <annette_g> a lot of these questions are existential for us
a lot of these questions are existential for us ←
14:04:17 <annette_g> sounds like people agree with that
sounds like people agree with that ←
14:04:17 <adler1> we have many language options to make recommendations that both prescriptive and descriptive
Steven Adler: we have many language options to make recommendations that both prescriptive and descriptive ←
14:04:35 <MTCarrasco> Starts like the linked data mug
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Starts like the linked data mug ←
14:04:40 <BernadetteLoscio> great!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: great! ←
14:04:42 <adler1> great call
Steven Adler: great call ←
14:04:48 <annette_g> deirdrelee_: let's follow up on email
Deirdre Lee: let's follow up on email ←
14:04:51 <MTCarrasco> Bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Bye ←
14:04:52 <laufer> bye, nice weekend for all!!!
Carlos Laufer: bye, nice weekend for all!!! ←
14:04:54 <SumitPurohit> thanks....
Sumit Purohit: thanks.... ←
14:04:55 <annette_g> happy St. Pat's day!
happy St. Pat's day! ←
14:04:55 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
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14:04:57 <Zakim> -estephan
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14:04:59 <Zakim> -deirdrelee_
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14:05:00 <Zakim> -phila
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14:05:00 <Zakim> -adler1
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14:05:00 <newton> Bye!
Newton Calegari: Bye! ←
14:05:02 <Zakim> -annette_g
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14:05:03 <annette_g> bye!
bye! ←
14:05:03 <Zakim> -laufer
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14:05:04 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
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14:05:06 <Caroline_> happy St. Pat's day! :)
Caroline Burle: happy St. Pat's day! :) ←
14:05:09 <AdrianoC> Thanks all! Bye bye!
Adriano Pereira: Thanks all! Bye bye! ←
14:05:11 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit
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14:05:12 <Zakim> -yaso
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14:05:24 <Zakim> -AdrianoC
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14:05:25 <Zakim> Attendees were phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, +1.617.646.aaaa, annette_g, SumitPurohit, newton, Caroline_, +1.516.944.aabb, adler1, BernadetteLoscio, laufer, estephan, AdrianoC,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were phila, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, +1.617.646.aaaa, annette_g, SumitPurohit, newton, Caroline_, +1.516.944.aabb, adler1, BernadetteLoscio, laufer, estephan, AdrianoC, ←
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Zakim IRC Bot: ... deirdrelee_ ←
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