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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 27 February 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150227
Seen
Annette Greiner, Antoine Isaac, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Iglesias, Caroline Burle, Christophe Gueret, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Giancarlo Guizzardi, Hadley Beeman, Jeremy Debattista, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler, Yaso Córdova
Guests
Newton Calegari
Scribe
Caroline Burle, Yaso Córdova
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Minutes approved link
Topics
13:55:47 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/02/27-dwbp-irc

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13:55:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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13:55:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:55:52 <trackbot> Date: 27 February 2015
13:57:30 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

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13:57:38 <Zakim> +Caroline

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13:57:45 <yaso1> Zakim, Caroline has Yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline has Yaso

13:57:45 <yaso1> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:57:45 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it

13:58:11 <phila> yaso1 - did you see that hadley will be late

Phil Archer: yaso1 - did you see that hadley will be late

13:58:40 <phila> zakim, call phila-mobile

Phil Archer: zakim, call phila-mobile

13:58:40 <Zakim> ok, phila; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila; the call is being made

13:58:42 <Zakim> +Phila

Zakim IRC Bot: +Phila

13:59:32 <Caroline> Hello!

Caroline Burle: Hello!

13:59:41 <Caroline> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Caroline Burle: Zakim, who is on the phone?

13:59:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila

13:59:42 <Zakim> Caroline has Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Yaso

13:59:56 <Caroline> I can scribe

Caroline Burle: I can scribe

14:00:30 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.554.aaaa

14:00:39 <Caroline> Scribe: Caroline

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

14:00:42 <ericstephan> zakim, aaaa is me

Eric Stephan: zakim, aaaa is me

14:00:42 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it

14:00:59 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.557.aabb

14:01:05 <yaso1> Scribe: Caroline
14:02:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:02:24 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me

Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me

14:02:24 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it

14:03:07 <Zakim> + +1.510.384.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.384.aacc

14:03:31 <annette_g> zakin, aacc is me

Annette Greiner: zakin, aacc is me

14:03:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:03:39 <annette_g> zakim, aacc is me

Annette Greiner: zakim, aacc is me

14:03:39 <Zakim> +annette_g; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g; got it

14:03:39 <deirdrelee> scribe: Caroline
14:03:50 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

14:03:50 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

14:04:08 <deirdrelee> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150227
14:04:42 <deirdrelee> Proposed: Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-20

PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-20

14:04:49 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:04:51 <newton> \me hi

Newton Calegari: \me hi

14:04:59 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

14:05:04 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:05:08 <yaso1> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:05:09 <Caroline> +1

+1

14:05:09 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:05:12 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

14:05:45 <deirdrelee> Resolved: Minutes approved

RESOLVED: Minutes approved

14:05:50 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aadd

14:05:58 <Caroline> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

14:06:10 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (55%), deirdrelee (24%), Phila (89%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (55%), deirdrelee (24%), Phila (89%)

14:06:15 <Zakim> +??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15

14:06:26 <Caroline> Zakim, mute ericstephan

Zakim, mute ericstephan

14:06:26 <Zakim> ericstephan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should now be muted

14:06:29 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P15 is me

Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P15 is me

14:06:29 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it

14:06:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim,  aadd is me

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, aadd is me

14:06:48 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

14:06:51 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

14:06:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb

14:06:54 <Zakim> Caroline has Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Yaso

14:06:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1,

14:06:54 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:07:00 <Zakim> +??P16

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16

14:07:01 <Eric_Kauz> zakim, aabb is me

Eric Kauz: zakim, aabb is me

14:07:01 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it

14:07:07 <cgueret> zakim, ??P16 is me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P16 is me

14:07:08 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it

14:07:12 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me

14:07:12 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted

14:07:15 <Zakim> +Steve

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve

14:07:25 <newton> Zakim, who's speaking?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's speaking?

14:07:32 <Caroline> it is too much noisy

it is too much noisy

14:07:36 <Caroline> on the phone

on the phone

14:07:38 <Zakim> newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (21%), deirdrelee (85%), Steve (33%)

Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (21%), deirdrelee (85%), Steve (33%)

14:08:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:08:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

14:08:13 <newton> Zakim, who's noisy?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's noisy?

14:08:18 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

14:08:18 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

14:08:21 <Caroline> too much noisy

too much noisy

14:08:24 <Zakim> newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (42%), [IPcaller] (52%)

Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (42%), [IPcaller] (52%)

14:08:26 <Caroline> Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:08:26 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:08:29 <deirdrelee> please mute

Deirdre Lee: please mute

14:08:34 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:08:34 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was already muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was already muted, BernadetteLoscio

14:08:45 <Caroline> Zakim, mute [IPcaller]

Zakim, mute [IPcaller]

14:08:45 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to [IPcaller]

14:08:45 <adler1> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-data-standards-steven-adler?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_LIKE

Steven Adler: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-data-standards-steven-adler?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_LIKE

14:08:46 <BernadetteLoscio> i just arrived :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i just arrived :)

14:08:49 <ericstephan> I saw it and read the article, really enjoyable.

Eric Stephan: I saw it and read the article, really enjoyable.

14:08:51 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

14:08:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted),

14:08:55 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.a]

14:08:55 <Zakim> Caroline has Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Yaso

14:08:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1,

14:08:55 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:09:06 <Caroline> Zakim, Caroline has newton

Zakim, Caroline has newton

14:09:06 <Zakim> +newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it

14:09:06 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noisy?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noisy?

14:09:14 <Caroline> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

14:09:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> Zakim, who's speaking?

Riccardo Albertoni: Zakim, who's speaking?

14:09:21 <Zakim> deirdrelee, listening for 13 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (22%), Steve (8%), [IPcaller.a] (82%)

Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, listening for 13 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (22%), Steve (8%), [IPcaller.a] (82%)

14:09:24 <Caroline> I canno hear anything but noisy

I canno hear anything but noisy

14:09:29 <Caroline> we are on mute here

we are on mute here

14:09:34 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (45%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (45%)

14:09:37 <newton> Zakim, mute [IPcaller.a]

Newton Calegari: Zakim, mute [IPcaller.a]

14:09:37 <Zakim> [IPcaller.a] should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller.a] should now be muted

14:09:43 <cgueret> better!

Christophe Gueret: better!

14:09:48 <Zakim> riccardoAlbertoni, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (75%)

Zakim IRC Bot: riccardoAlbertoni, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (75%)

14:09:48 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noisy?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noisy?

14:09:48 <Caroline> much better! :)

much better! :)

14:09:49 <BernadetteLoscio> im gonna disconnect

Bernadette Farias Loscio: im gonna disconnect

14:09:51 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

14:09:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted),

14:09:54 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.a] (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.a] (muted)

14:09:54 <Zakim> Caroline has newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has newton

14:09:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see guizzardi, cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see guizzardi, cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent,

14:09:54 <Zakim> ... yaso1, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... yaso1, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:09:59 <Zakim> deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (24%)

Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (24%)

14:10:53 <Caroline> deirdrelee: we are talking about vocabs

Deirdre Lee: we are talking about vocabs

14:11:23 <Caroline> ... based on the BP documents we can see what are the requirements of the vocabs documents

... based on the BP documents we can see what are the requirements of the vocabs documents

14:11:32 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

14:11:40 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:11:43 <Caroline> ... let's hear from the editors of each of documents

... let's hear from the editors of each of documents

14:11:53 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:11:54 <Caroline> Zakim, unmute ericstephan

Zakim, unmute ericstephan

14:11:55 <Zakim> ericstephan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should no longer be muted

14:11:56 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

14:12:25 <Caroline> ericstephan: I think we should talk  about separating them or combining them

Eric Stephan: I think we should talk about separating them or combining them

14:12:54 <Caroline> ... should we talk about where we are moving or about hthe content?

... should we talk about where we are moving or about hthe content?

14:13:02 <Caroline> deirdrelee: in general would be helpful

Deirdre Lee: in general would be helpful

14:13:17 <ericstephan> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html#requirements-for-data-usage-description-vocabulary

Eric Stephan: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html#requirements-for-data-usage-description-vocabulary

14:13:19 <Caroline> ericstephan: BernadetteLoscio and I are working on the backgroud of the data usage vocabulary

Eric Stephan: BernadetteLoscio and I are working on the backgroud of the data usage vocabulary

14:13:48 <Caroline> ... the use case document helped regarding the data usage vocab and some use cases really helped

... the use case document helped regarding the data usage vocab and some use cases really helped

14:13:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:13:57 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule

Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule

14:13:59 <Caroline> ... there are some motivational use cases

... there are some motivational use cases

14:14:18 <Caroline> ... BernadetteLoscio and I put together a schedule so we can move towardss and propose vocabs

... BernadetteLoscio and I put together a schedule so we can move towardss and propose vocabs

14:14:34 <BernadetteLoscio> no! you said everything :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: no! you said everything :)

14:14:35 <Caroline> Zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:14:35 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to BernadetteLoscio

14:15:01 <ericstephan> http://www.hydra-cg.com/spec/latest/core/

Eric Stephan: http://www.hydra-cg.com/spec/latest/core/

14:15:05 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a]

14:15:25 <Caroline> ericstephan: we would like to wirte the document in a style similar to ??

Eric Stephan: we would like to wirte the document in a style similar to hydra vocabulary

14:15:42 <deirdrelee> s/??/hydra vocabulary
14:15:54 <Caroline> ... one of the questions is if we should use DCAT or not

... one of the questions is if we should use DCAT or not

14:16:01 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

14:16:04 <Caroline> ... it makes a lot of sense to start with it

... it makes a lot of sense to start with it

14:16:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

14:16:19 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller.a is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller.a is BernadetteLoscio

14:16:19 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

14:16:21 <Caroline> ... we are gathering weekly or every two weeks

... we are gathering weekly or every two weeks

14:16:31 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

14:16:31 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

14:16:50 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:16:50 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:17:43 <Caroline> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

14:17:56 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (100%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (100%)

14:18:05 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

14:18:09 <Caroline> ericstephan: it should be possible to track data on the web

Eric Stephan: it should be possible to track data on the web

14:18:26 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150227

Hadley Beeman: hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150227

14:18:34 <Caroline> .... we would like to find some illustrative scenarios

.... we would like to find some illustrative scenarios

14:18:40 <Caroline> ... to use as examples

... to use as examples

14:19:03 <Caroline> ... once we come up with those we want to bring them back to the WG

... once we come up with those we want to bring them back to the WG

14:19:34 <Caroline> ... we are defining the model

... we are defining the model

14:20:14 <Caroline> ... about the data quality we have talked with that team and they made requirements

... about the data quality we have talked with that team and they made requirements

14:20:44 <Caroline> ... there are nuances in data usage that we really need to explore as a WG

... there are nuances in data usage that we really need to explore as a WG

14:21:02 <BernadetteLoscio> Thanks Eric!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Thanks Eric!

14:21:06 <Caroline> ... the vocabs may be together

... the vocabs may be together

14:21:36 <Caroline> deirdrelee: the agenda is going forward

Deirdre Lee: the agenda is going forward

14:22:15 <Caroline> ericstephan: I think the BP document did a great job and it is helpful for the vocabs teams

Eric Stephan: I think the BP document did a great job and it is helpful for the vocabs teams

14:22:36 <Caroline> deirdrelee: is there any comments about the vocabs?

Deirdre Lee: is there any comments about the vocabs?

14:22:42 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: chair

Hadley Beeman: chair

14:23:06 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: I would like to talk about the data quality vocab

Hadley Beeman: I would like to talk about the data quality vocab

14:24:09 <Caroline> antoine: we are paused on the data quality vocabulary, it would be good to find more people to work on it

Antoine Isaac: we are paused on the data quality vocabulary, it would be good to find more people to work on it

14:24:49 <Caroline> ... I prefer that data usage vocabulary will not be stucked by the data quality vocabulary

... I prefer that data usage vocabulary will not be stucked by the data quality vocabulary

14:25:12 <Caroline> ... in the past month we have done some requirements

... in the past month we have done some requirements

14:25:53 <Caroline> ... the quality vocab should allow to say that data is complete

... the quality vocab should allow to say that data is complete

14:26:23 <Caroline> ... on the other hand there are a lot contributions from the research community

... on the other hand there are a lot contributions from the research community

14:26:35 <Caroline> ... I am not sure it is an ideal scenario

... I am not sure it is an ideal scenario

14:26:46 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_notes#Links.2C_related_work

Antoine Isaac: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_notes#Links.2C_related_work

14:27:16 <Caroline> ... this link shows that there is a lot to be done

... this link shows that there is a lot to be done

14:27:48 <Caroline> ... the next point was about keeping the vocabs separates

... the next point was about keeping the vocabs separates

14:28:05 <Caroline> ... I prefer that data usage vocb progress

... I prefer that data usage vocb progress

14:28:12 <Caroline> scribe: yaso

(Scribe set to Yaso Córdova)

14:28:33 <ericstephan> +1 @antoine

Eric Stephan: +1 @antoine

14:29:02 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to antoine on keeping the vocabularies separated and DCAT extension

Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to antoine on keeping the vocabularies separated and DCAT extension

14:29:03 <yaso1> antoine: I think this is clearly something that we could follow

Antoine Isaac: I think this is clearly something that we could follow

14:29:12 <cgueret> +1 too

Christophe Gueret: +1 too

14:29:39 <yaso1> q?

q?

14:29:55 <yaso1> zakim, who's speaking:

zakim, who's speaking:

14:29:55 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's speaking:', yaso1

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who's speaking:', yaso1

14:30:06 <yaso1> zakim, who is speaking?

zakim, who is speaking?

14:30:18 <Zakim> yaso1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: annette_g (5%), antoine (5%), HadleyBeeman (53%)

Zakim IRC Bot: yaso1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: annette_g (5%), antoine (5%), HadleyBeeman (53%)

14:30:32 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: you think that would be able to handle the requirements?

Hadley Beeman: you think that would be able to handle the requirements?

14:30:38 <yaso1> tks, hadleybeeman

tks, hadleybeeman

14:32:02 <hadleybeeman> q+ phil

Hadley Beeman: q+ phil

14:32:04 <hadleybeeman> ack phil

Hadley Beeman: ack phil

14:32:22 <Zakim> +??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27

14:32:33 <yaso1> Phil: DCAT comes up in conversation a lot

Phil Archer: DCAT comes up in conversation a lot

14:32:47 <yaso1> scribe: Caroline

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

14:32:50 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P27 is me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P27 is me

14:32:50 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it

14:33:10 <Caroline> Phil: I have talked with Makx about DCAT

Phil Archer: I have talked with Makx about DCAT

14:33:23 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:33:29 <hadleybeeman> q+ to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues

Hadley Beeman: q+ to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues

14:33:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:33:57 <Caroline> ... when do we get to write both vocabs into the documents is the point that we must decide

... when do we get to write both vocabs into the documents is the point that we must decide

14:34:56 <Caroline> ...  we only got 2 documents published. You can maintain separatedly

... we only got 2 documents published. You can maintain separatedly

14:35:27 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:35:32 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

14:35:33 <Caroline> ... I prefer to have only one document if the content is related

... I prefer to have only one document if the content is related

14:35:55 <deirdrelee> q+ to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec

Deirdre Lee: q+ to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec

14:36:06 <hadleybeeman> q- later

Hadley Beeman: q- later

14:36:30 <Caroline> ... two separately documents are fine, but if we think we should reunite them we can

... two separately documents are fine, but if we think we should reunite them we can

14:36:57 <Caroline> ... if we think we are going to end up with one start with one, but if we think we are ending up with two,start with two

... if we think we are going to end up with one start with one, but if we think we are ending up with two,start with two

14:37:00 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

14:37:29 <Caroline> ericstephan: I think it does make sense keep it separately while we are doing investigation

Eric Stephan: I think it does make sense keep it separately while we are doing investigation

14:37:56 <Caroline> ... about DCAT it is there on the background

... about DCAT it is there on the background

14:38:08 <adler1> I thought we had already agreed to build a DCAT+

Steven Adler: I thought we had already agreed to build a DCAT+

14:38:11 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes!

14:38:18 <Caroline> s/proces/process

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14:38:33 <hadleybeeman> @adler1: I think this discussion is checking on that

Hadley Beeman: @adler1: I think this discussion is checking on that

14:38:36 <Caroline> ... I am just holding that until we go to the requirements proces

... I am just holding that until we go to the requirements proces

14:38:36 <Caroline> ... we may out them together at some point

... we may out them together at some point

14:38:44 <Caroline> antoine: when do we need to know if we are going to merge the documents?

Antoine Isaac: when do we need to know if we are going to merge the documents?

14:38:55 <ericstephan> I would hope that we can have public working drafts evolve separately

Eric Stephan: I would hope that we can have public working drafts evolve separately

14:38:59 <Caroline> phil: you could publish separatedly and then merge

Phil Archer: you could publish separatedly and then merge

14:39:09 <BernadetteLoscio> +1 to Eric

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 to Eric

14:39:12 <Caroline> ... nothing desapears in W3C process

... nothing desapears in W3C process

14:39:19 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

14:39:21 <Caroline> ... you have complete flexibility

... you have complete flexibility

14:41:26 <Caroline> antoine: if we are talking about one document, how would that work in terms of geting them together? How should we coordinate it?

Eric Stephan: if we are talking about one document, how would that work in terms of geting them together? How should we coordinate it?

14:41:34 <antoine> s/antoine/ericstephan
14:42:03 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: there is no W3C opinion on this. I think is our interest to make one document

Hadley Beeman: there is no W3C opinion on this. I think is our interest to make one document

14:42:04 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

14:42:06 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:42:19 <Caroline> ... if it make senses regarding the content

... if it make senses regarding the content

14:42:24 <hadleybeeman> ack antoine

Hadley Beeman: ack antoine

14:43:21 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: you may prepare the document anyway you like and send it to the WG

Hadley Beeman: you may prepare the document anyway you like and send it to the WG

14:43:32 <Caroline> antoine: I am concerned about different styles of writing

Antoine Isaac: I am concerned about different styles of writing

14:43:44 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: for the FWD would be okay

Hadley Beeman: for the FWD would be okay

14:43:52 <Caroline> ... if it is writen clearly

... if it is writen clearly

14:43:57 <hadleybeeman> ack d

Hadley Beeman: ack d

14:43:57 <Zakim> deirdrelee, you wanted to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec

Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, you wanted to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec

14:44:06 <hadleybeeman> q- later

Hadley Beeman: q- later

14:44:19 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:44:20 <annette_g> * I hear her

Annette Greiner: * I hear her

14:44:31 <Caroline> deirdrelee: antoine mentioned the two vocabs weather should be together or not

Deirdre Lee: antoine mentioned the two vocabs weather should be together or not

14:44:39 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

14:44:55 <Caroline> deirdrelee: from a process point of view, DCAT is a recommendation

Deirdre Lee: from a process point of view, DCAT is a recommendation

14:45:11 <Caroline> ... data usage and data quality vocabs would be notes of this WG

... data usage and data quality vocabs would be notes of this WG

14:45:16 <ericstephan> Should we make DCAT a recommendation from our working group?

Eric Stephan: Should we make DCAT a recommendation from our working group?

14:46:08 <Caroline> phila: there could be a document (or two) that defines a number of extensions of DCAT. The fact that DCAT is a recommendation is not affect for that

Phil Archer: there could be a document (or two) that defines a number of extensions of DCAT. The fact that DCAT is a recommendation is not affect for that

14:46:31 <Caroline> ... unless that something comes up in our discussion such as we would like to replace something in DCAT

... unless that something comes up in our discussion such as we would like to replace something in DCAT

14:46:33 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:46:48 <Caroline> ... data vocabs can be a note or recommendation

... data vocabs can be a note or recommendation

14:47:12 <Caroline> deirdrelee: antoine, I am happy to help as a contributor of data quality vocab

Deirdre Lee: antoine, I am happy to help as a contributor of data quality vocab

14:47:24 <antoine> great :-)

Antoine Isaac: great :-)

14:48:17 <Caroline> ... it is important that we get started on the vocabulary

... it is important that we get started on the vocabulary

14:48:27 <hadleybeeman> ack adl

Hadley Beeman: ack adl

14:48:33 <hadleybeeman> ack adler

Hadley Beeman: ack adler

14:48:39 <hadleybeeman> ack adler

Hadley Beeman: ack adler

14:48:48 <Caroline> adler1: one of my colleagues from IBM comment abou the datasets

Steven Adler: one of my colleagues from IBM comment abou the datasets

14:48:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> I agree with deirdrelee and I am willing in helping as well :)

Riccardo Albertoni: I agree with deirdrelee and I am willing in helping as well :)

14:49:20 <ericstephan> good point adler1

Eric Stephan: good point adler1

14:49:27 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:49:28 <Caroline> ... we mentioned that data should be discoverable but I am not sure we adressed that about vocabularies

... we mentioned that data should be discoverable but I am not sure we adressed that about vocabularies

14:49:42 <Caroline> ... any comments on that?

... any comments on that?

14:49:43 <deirdrelee> like SEO for data?

Deirdre Lee: like SEO for data?

14:50:00 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: the set of requirements on vacbularies is definetly a good point

Hadley Beeman: the set of requirements on vacbularies is definetly a good point

14:50:03 <hadleybeeman> ack annette

Hadley Beeman: ack annette

14:50:18 <Caroline> annette_g: about the vocabs should be together or separate

Annette Greiner: about the vocabs should be together or separate

14:50:54 <Caroline> ... they could be kept separeted because they are different use cases

... they could be kept separeted because they are different use cases

14:51:33 <ericstephan> annette_g: I'd be very interested in hearing about your perspective further (visualization scenario)

Annette Greiner: I'd be very interested in hearing about your perspective further (visualization scenario) [ Scribe Assist by Eric Stephan ]

14:51:50 <Caroline> ... I thikn would be different and I would like to know how would people actually use that vocsb

... I thikn would be different and I would like to know how would people actually use that vocab

14:52:00 <Caroline> s/vocsb/vocab
14:52:12 <cgueret> ok

Christophe Gueret: ok

14:52:19 <cgueret> I'd suggest to use provo for this

Christophe Gueret: I'd suggest to use provo for this

14:52:30 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:52:51 <ericstephan> BernadetteLoscio has also a application vocabulary in the pipeline that we may adopt as well.

Eric Stephan: BernadetteLoscio has also a application vocabulary in the pipeline that we may adopt as well.

14:53:00 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: antoine, you started talking about time a the need people to help

Hadley Beeman: antoine, you started talking about time a the need people to help

14:53:34 <Caroline> antoine: I am not able to be an editor alone

Antoine Isaac: I am not able to be an editor alone

14:53:48 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller]

14:53:57 <Caroline> ... before March 23 I can use deirdrelee helps

... before March 23 I can use deirdrelee helps

14:54:04 <Caroline> s/hepls/hepl

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14:54:12 <Caroline> s/hepl/help

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14:54:20 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:54:46 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: keep us posted if you need other editor or more contributors

Hadley Beeman: keep us posted if you need other editor or more contributors

14:55:01 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller]

14:55:27 <Caroline> antoine: Bart and I will not be able to make to the F2F

Antoine Isaac: Bart and I will not be able to make to the F2F

14:55:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:55:44 <Caroline> ... it would be important to have someone for that discussion on there

... it would be important to have someone for that discussion on there

14:56:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+

Riccardo Albertoni: q+

14:56:23 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: we may adopt tecnhologies from other contexts such as DCAT

Hadley Beeman: we may adopt tecnhologies from other contexts such as DCAT

14:56:49 <Caroline> ... the Government Linked Data WG had recommendations used from other works, which is useful in certain use cases

... the Government Linked Data WG had recommendations used from other works, which is useful in certain use cases

14:57:04 <hadleybeeman> ack riccardo

Hadley Beeman: ack riccardo

14:57:07 <hadleybeeman> ack em

Hadley Beeman: ack em

14:57:09 <hadleybeeman> ack me

Hadley Beeman: ack me

14:57:09 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues

14:57:17 <Caroline> riccardoAlbertoni: about the data wuality vocab I am willing to contritbute

Riccardo Albertoni: about the data wuality vocab I am willing to contritbute

14:57:48 <Caroline> ... we should at least define requirements before the f2f

... we should at least define requirements before the f2f

14:58:24 <guizzardi> I would also be very willing to contribute to the Data Quality Work

Giancarlo Guizzardi: I would also be very willing to contribute to the Data Quality Work

14:58:25 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: we have 5 weeks until f2f

Hadley Beeman: we have 5 weeks until f2f

14:58:42 <hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule

14:58:50 <jerdeb> \me I can help riccardo as well

Jeremy Debattista: \me I can help riccardo as well

14:58:53 <Caroline> ... data usage editors came up with

... data usage editors came up with

14:59:03 <antoine> I have marked it as action point for next week :-)

Antoine Isaac: I have marked it as action point for next week :-)

14:59:41 <Caroline> ... data should be findable for everyone

... data should be findable for everyone

14:59:50 <Caroline> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

15:00:01 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (28%), ericstephan (33%), Steve (98%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (28%), ericstephan (33%), Steve (98%)

15:00:13 <hadleybeeman> zakim, steve is adler1

Hadley Beeman: zakim, steve is adler1

15:00:13 <Zakim> +adler1; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1; got it

15:00:13 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

15:00:32 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

15:00:39 <ericstephan> zakim, mute me

Eric Stephan: zakim, mute me

15:00:39 <Zakim> ericstephan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should now be muted

15:00:42 <hadleybeeman> zakim, close the queue

Hadley Beeman: zakim, close the queue

15:00:42 <Zakim> ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed

15:00:57 <Caroline> adler1: there are so much data

Steven Adler: there are so much data

15:01:09 <Caroline> ... and a lot of time people are unaware of it

... and a lot of time people are unaware of it

15:01:22 <hadleybeeman> ack deirdre

Hadley Beeman: ack deirdre

15:01:30 <ericstephan> data usage can help extend discoverability to more of a peer to peer model Steve

Eric Stephan: data usage can help extend discoverability to more of a peer to peer model Steve

15:02:26 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

15:02:28 <ericstephan> zakim, unmute me

Eric Stephan: zakim, unmute me

15:02:28 <Zakim> ericstephan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should no longer be muted

15:03:09 <deirdrelee> i was talking to a journalist last week, and she said that if she can find information quicker on google than on an open data portal, she will continue to use data

Deirdre Lee: i was talking to a journalist last week, and she said that if she can find information quicker on google than on an open data portal, she will continue to use data

15:03:30 <Caroline> ericstephan: it is important keep the conversation about data on the web and the different vocabularies

Eric Stephan: it is important keep the conversation about data on the web and the different vocabularies

15:03:38 <MTCarrasco> I cannot connect with the telephone

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I cannot connect with the telephone

15:03:53 <deirdrelee> so it begs the question of what is the goal of open data portals - just data discoverability or other functions, like how to improve open data

Deirdre Lee: so it begs the question of what is the goal of open data portals - just data discoverability or other functions, like how to improve open data

15:03:55 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: the meeting started an hour ago!

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the meeting started an hour ago!

15:04:02 <Caroline> thank you!

thank you!

15:04:04 <Caroline> bye!

bye!

15:04:07 <BernadetteLoscio> Thank you!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Thank you!

15:04:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye !

Riccardo Albertoni: bye !

15:04:08 <yaso1> thank you, Hadley!

Yaso Córdova: thank you, Hadley!

15:04:09 <guizzardi> thanks, bye

Giancarlo Guizzardi: thanks, bye

15:04:10 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

15:04:10 <jerdeb> bye

Jeremy Debattista: bye

15:04:10 <CarlosIglesias> bue!

Carlos Iglesias: bue!

15:04:11 <Zakim> -adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1

15:04:11 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

15:04:12 <BernadetteLoscio> bye!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: bye!

15:04:13 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan

15:04:13 <Zakim> -Phila

Zakim IRC Bot: -Phila

15:04:13 <Zakim> -annette_g

Zakim IRC Bot: -annette_g

15:04:14 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee

15:04:15 <yaso1> See you, bye!

Yaso Córdova: See you, bye!

15:04:16 <Zakim> -jerdeb

Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb

15:04:17 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz

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15:04:17 <annette_g> bye all!

Annette Greiner: bye all!

15:04:17 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

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15:04:23 <Zakim> -riccardoAlbertoni

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15:04:31 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

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15:05:31 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

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15:06:57 <Zakim> -cgueret

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15:11:57 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Caroline, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

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15:11:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Yaso, Phila, +1.509.554.aaaa, ericstephan, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, +1.510.384.aacc, annette_g, antoine, +39.349.096.aadd, jerdeb, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Yaso, Phila, +1.509.554.aaaa, ericstephan, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, +1.510.384.aacc, annette_g, antoine, +39.349.096.aadd, jerdeb, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz,

15:12:00 <Zakim> ... cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, newton, HadleyBeeman, CarlosIglesias, [IPcaller], adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: ... cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, newton, HadleyBeeman, CarlosIglesias, [IPcaller], adler1



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