13:57:33 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-irc ←
13:57:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs 351 ←
13:57:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP ←
13:57:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:57:38 <trackbot> Date: 14 November 2014
13:57:43 <hadleybeeman> Hello!
Hadley Beeman: Hello! ←
13:58:09 <deirdrelee> Hi hadleybeeman
Deirdre Lee: Hi hadleybeeman ←
13:58:24 <hadleybeeman> Hello, deirdrelee!
Hadley Beeman: Hello, deirdrelee! ←
13:58:29 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:59:07 <deirdrelee> i'm trying to invite him
Deirdre Lee: i'm trying to invite him ←
13:59:45 <deirdrelee> "/invite zakim #dwbp"
Deirdre Lee: "/invite zakim #dwbp" ←
13:59:50 <deirdrelee> that's what i'm using
Deirdre Lee: that's what i'm using ←
14:00:10 <deirdrelee> nope, not working for me
Deirdre Lee: nope, not working for me ←
14:00:16 <yaso_> Zakim, Caroline has yaso_
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline has yaso_ ←
14:00:33 <nathalia> Zakim, Caroline has nathalia
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, Caroline has nathalia ←
14:00:53 <yaso_> haha
Yaso Córdova: haha ←
14:01:33 <phila> OK, who's able to use Skype?
Phil Archer: OK, who's able to use Skype? ←
14:01:45 <deirdrelee> i'm on skype
Deirdre Lee: i'm on skype ←
14:02:21 <yaso_> we can use skype from here also
Yaso Córdova: we can use skype from here also ←
14:02:27 <hadleybeeman> I'm on Skype.
Hadley Beeman: I'm on Skype. ←
14:02:31 <yaso_> Me, Nathalia, Caroline and Newton
Yaso Córdova: Me, Nathalia, Caroline and Newton ←
14:02:31 <phila> It seems to be a recent security update on the Windows box that Zakim runs on
Phil Archer: It seems to be a recent security update on the Windows box that Zakim runs on ←
14:02:51 <AdrianoC> me too, I can use Skype!
Adriano Pereira: me too, I can use Skype! ←
14:03:36 <hadleybeeman> phila, were you suggesting a group Skype chat?
Hadley Beeman: phila, were you suggesting a group Skype chat? ←
14:03:41 <phila> OK, let's get everyone's Skype handle
Phil Archer: OK, let's get everyone's Skype handle ←
14:03:44 <phila> yes, sorry hadleybeeman
Phil Archer: yes, sorry hadleybeeman ←
14:03:48 <nathalia> deception
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: deception ←
14:03:48 <phila> Zakim is down
Phil Archer: Zakim is down ←
14:03:49 <deirdrelee> ah
Deirdre Lee: ah ←
14:04:06 <phila> Ralph is looking at it but it looks like a security patch has killed zakim
Phil Archer: Ralph is looking at it but it looks like a security patch has killed zakim ←
14:04:10 <deirdrelee> but i could hear eric kauz and yaso no the call
Deirdre Lee: but i could hear eric kauz and yaso no the call ←
14:04:10 <yaso> “the day zakim went down” seems like a good name for a movie
Yaso Córdova: “the day zakim went down” seems like a good name for a movie ←
14:04:17 <phila> +1 yaso
Phil Archer: +1 yaso ←
14:04:31 <RiccardoAlbertoni> hi everyone!
Riccardo Albertoni: hi everyone! ←
14:04:35 <phila> OK, I;m going to start calling people on Skype in 1 minute
Phil Archer: OK, I;m going to start calling people on Skype in 1 minute ←
14:04:41 <hadleybeeman> k
Hadley Beeman: k ←
14:04:52 <phila> If we're not already linked on Skype, please enter your Skype handle here
Phil Archer: If we're not already linked on Skype, please enter your Skype handle here ←
14:05:00 <phila> prefix with /me if you don't want it in the minutes
Phil Archer: prefix with /me if you don't want it in the minutes ←
14:05:13 <yaso> ouquei. Call Caroline Burle, plz @phila
Yaso Córdova: ouquei. Call Caroline Burle, plz @phila ←
14:05:22 <laufer> hello all
Carlos Laufer: hello all ←
14:05:40 <phila> I would if she were online yaso
Phil Archer: I would if she were online yaso ←
14:06:01 <yaso> Ops. Call Newtoncallegari then, please
Yaso Córdova: Ops. Call Newtoncallegari then, please ←
14:06:23 <AdrianoC> My skype id is adriano.machado
Adriano Pereira: My skype id is adriano.machado ←
14:07:10 <laufer> \me is carlos.laufer
Carlos Laufer: \me is carlos.laufer ←
14:08:13 <Caroline_> Is the meeting on Skype?
Caroline Burle: Is the meeting on Skype? ←
14:08:14 <phila> Wa hay!
Phil Archer: Wa hay! ←
14:08:17 <phila> Zakim, is back
Phil Archer: Zakim, is back ←
14:08:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'is back', phila
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'is back', phila ←
14:08:31 <deirdrelee> Zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:08:31 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:08:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, rhiaro,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, rhiaro, ←
14:08:33 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot ←
14:08:40 <phila> zakim, this is dwbp
Phil Archer: zakim, this is dwbp ←
14:08:40 <Zakim> ok, phila; that matches DATA_DWBP()9:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila; that matches DATA_DWBP()9:00AM ←
14:08:41 <hadleybeeman> Hi Caroline_ — we're on zakim now. You can dial in as normal.
Hadley Beeman: Hi Caroline_ — we're on zakim now. You can dial in as normal. ←
14:08:47 <deirdrelee> Zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:08:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.609.557.aaaa, +1.510.384.aabb, +39.349.096.aacc, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.609.557.aaaa, +1.510.384.aabb, +39.349.096.aacc, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman ←
14:08:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, rhiaro,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, rhiaro, ←
14:08:49 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot ←
14:08:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:08:59 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me ←
14:08:59 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
14:09:05 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller.a is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller.a is me ←
14:09:05 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
14:09:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:09:18 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
14:09:18 <Zakim> +phila; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it ←
14:09:24 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aacc is RiccardoAlbertoni
Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aacc is RiccardoAlbertoni ←
14:09:24 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it ←
14:09:25 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
14:09:28 <annette_g> zakim, +1.510.384.aabb is me
Annette Greiner: zakim, +1.510.384.aabb is me ←
14:09:28 <Zakim> +annette_g; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g; got it ←
14:09:32 <yaso> Zakim, Caroline is Yaso
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline is Yaso ←
14:09:32 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it ←
14:09:45 <yaso> Zakim, yaso has Newton, Flavio and Nathalia
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has Newton, Flavio and Nathalia ←
14:09:45 <Zakim> +Newton, Flavio, Nathalia; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Newton, Flavio, Nathalia; got it ←
14:09:46 <Zakim> +Yaso.a
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso.a ←
14:09:49 <nathalia> Zakim, Caroline has nathalia
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, Caroline has nathalia ←
14:09:49 <Zakim> sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline' ←
14:09:55 <deirdrelee> zakim, +1.609 is Eric_Kauz
Deirdre Lee: zakim, +1.609 is Eric_Kauz ←
14:09:55 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it ←
14:09:57 <Caroline_> Zakim, Yaso.a is Caroline_
Caroline Burle: Zakim, Yaso.a is Caroline_ ←
14:09:57 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_; got it ←
14:09:58 <Zakim> +??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←
14:10:02 <deirdrelee> Zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:10:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22 ←
14:10:04 <Zakim> Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia
Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia ←
14:10:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, ←
14:10:04 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot ←
14:10:13 <Zakim> +??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25 ←
14:10:51 <deirdrelee> Zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:10:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, ??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, ??P25 ←
14:10:53 <Zakim> Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia
Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia ←
14:10:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, ←
14:10:53 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot ←
14:10:54 <AdrianoC> zakim, +??P25 is me
Adriano Pereira: zakim, +??P25 is me ←
14:10:55 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC, I do not recognize a party named '+??P25'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AdrianoC, I do not recognize a party named '+??P25' ←
14:10:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:11:05 <deirdrelee> Zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:11:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, ??P25, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, ??P25, [IPcaller] ←
14:11:06 <laufer> zakim, IPcaller is me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:11:08 <Zakim> Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia
Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia ←
14:11:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, ←
14:11:08 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot ←
14:11:08 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it ←
14:11:09 <Zakim> -??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P25 ←
14:11:15 <deirdrelee> Zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:11:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, laufer ←
14:11:18 <Zakim> Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia
Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia ←
14:11:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, ←
14:11:18 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot ←
14:11:19 <AdrianoC> zakim, ??P25 is me
Adriano Pereira: zakim, ??P25 is me ←
14:11:19 <Zakim> I already had ??P25 as ??P25, AdrianoC
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P25 as ??P25, AdrianoC ←
14:11:31 <Zakim> +??P24
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24 ←
14:11:43 <laufer> \mute me
Carlos Laufer: \mute me ←
14:11:52 <hadleybeeman> zakim, mute laufer
Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute laufer ←
14:11:52 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
14:11:56 <laufer> Zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: Zakim, mute me ←
14:11:56 <Zakim> laufer was already muted, laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was already muted, laufer ←
14:11:58 <Zakim> -??P24
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P24 ←
14:12:15 <phila> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:12:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, laufer (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, laufer (muted) ←
14:12:18 <Zakim> Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia
Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia ←
14:12:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see flavio, cgueret, newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see flavio, cgueret, newton, Zakim, Caroline_, annette_g, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, nathalia, yaso, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, AdrianoC, ←
14:12:18 <Zakim> ... deirdrelee, antoine, phila, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... deirdrelee, antoine, phila, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot ←
14:12:27 <deirdrelee> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141114
14:12:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:12:35 <Zakim> +??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25 ←
14:12:35 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
14:12:36 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
14:12:38 <phila> chair: Deirdre
14:12:39 <cgueret> zakim, ??P25 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P25 is me ←
14:12:39 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
14:12:40 <deirdrelee> scribe: annette_g
(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)
14:12:42 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
14:12:42 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
14:12:47 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
14:12:47 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
14:12:48 <deirdrelee> scribe: antoine
(Scribe set to Antoine Isaac)
14:12:53 <phila> Regrets: Bart
14:13:06 <Zakim> +??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29 ←
14:13:21 <antoine> Last week's minutes
Last week's minutes ←
14:13:26 <deirdrelee> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-07
Deirdre Lee: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-07 ←
14:13:28 <phila> PROPOSED: Acceot last week's minutes
PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes ←
14:13:38 <antoine> s/acceot/accept
s/acceot/accept (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:13:46 <phila> s/Acceot/Accept/
14:13:47 <phila> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
14:13:48 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:13:49 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
14:13:51 <nathalia> +1
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: +1 ←
14:13:57 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
14:13:58 <Zakim> -??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P29 ←
14:14:02 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
14:14:03 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
14:14:04 <Eric_Kauz> +1
14:14:07 <AdrianoC> +1
Adriano Pereira: +1 ←
14:14:07 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
14:14:14 <antoine> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes
RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes ←
14:14:18 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
14:14:25 <antoine> Topic: Issues
14:14:26 <AdrianoC> zakim, P25 is me
Adriano Pereira: zakim, P25 is me ←
14:14:26 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC, I do not recognize a party named 'P25'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AdrianoC, I do not recognize a party named 'P25' ←
14:14:32 <Zakim> +??P28
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P28 ←
14:14:35 <deirdrelee> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open
Deirdre Lee: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open ←
14:14:46 <Zakim> +Steve
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve ←
14:14:46 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P28 is me
Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P28 is me ←
14:14:48 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
14:14:51 <antoine> Focusing on the Use Cases first
Focusing on the Use Cases first ←
14:14:58 <nathalia> Zakim, who is noisy?
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, who is noisy? ←
14:14:58 <Zakim> I am sorry, nathalia; I don't have the necessary resources to track talkers right now
Zakim IRC Bot: I am sorry, nathalia; I don't have the necessary resources to track talkers right now ←
14:15:09 <phila> issue-48?
14:15:09 <trackbot> issue-48 -- Phil to look at whether the ucr doc sufficiently covers code lists -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-48 -- Phil to look at whether the ucr doc sufficiently covers code lists -- open ←
14:15:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/48
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/48 ←
14:15:22 <antoine> phila: it doesn't
Phil Archer: it doesn't ←
14:15:32 <antoine> ... suggests to close the issue :-)
... suggests to close the issue :-) ←
14:15:56 <antoine> ... We have already 30 UCs
... We have already 30 UCs ←
14:16:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:16:12 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ipcaller is me
Makx Dekkers: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
14:16:12 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers; got it ←
14:16:14 <antoine> ... Perhaps an existing UC could be completed with code lists
... Perhaps an existing UC could be completed with code lists ←
14:16:53 <antoine> deirdrelee: what are code lists?
Deirdre Lee: what are code lists? ←
14:17:09 <antoine> phila: controlled vocabularies with list of values to be used
Phil Archer: controlled vocabularies with list of values to be used ←
14:17:49 <antoine> phila: I think the same reasoning (on requirements and use cases) could be applied more widely.
Phil Archer: I think the same reasoning (on requirements and use cases) could be applied more widely. ←
14:18:07 <antoine> ... it's quite easy now to do this
... it's quite easy now to do this ←
14:18:16 <cgueret> Would it be interesting to look at how schema.org solved the issue ? I remember Peter Mika explaining something about it but forgot what their solution was
Christophe Gueret: Would it be interesting to look at how schema.org solved the issue ? I remember Peter Mika explaining something about it but forgot what their solution was ←
14:18:30 <adler1> don't we run the risk of having too many use cases to digest?
Steven Adler: don't we run the risk of having too many use cases to digest? ←
14:18:31 <antoine> ... I can review the use cases that I've put it to check if some are related to code lists
... I can review the use cases that I've put it to check if some are related to code lists ←
14:19:01 <Zakim> -cgueret
Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret ←
14:19:17 <antoine> phila: Issue 49 about reference vocs is about the same isssu
Phil Archer: ISSUE-49 about reference vocs is about the same issue ←
14:19:22 <antoine> s/isssu/issue
14:19:32 <antoine> ... same for Issue 50
14:19:34 <Zakim> +??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25 ←
14:19:39 <cgueret> zakim, ??P25 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P25 is me ←
14:19:39 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
14:19:43 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
14:19:43 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
14:19:47 <antoine> deirdrelee: I could take an action
Deirdre Lee: I could take an action ←
14:19:53 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
14:19:55 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:20:05 <antoine> ... on writing to indiviual case authors about things they should check
... on writing to indiviual case authors about things they should check ←
14:20:06 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Caroline Burle: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:20:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, laufer (muted), BernadetteLoscio (muted), jerdeb,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see antoine, Eric_Kauz, Caroline_, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, phila, Yaso, ??P22, laufer (muted), BernadetteLoscio (muted), jerdeb, ←
14:20:09 <Zakim> ... Steve, MakxDekkers, cgueret (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Steve, MakxDekkers, cgueret (muted) ←
14:20:09 <Zakim> Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia
Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Newton, Flavio, Nathalia ←
14:20:15 <antoine> phila: and put an action on them!
Phil Archer: and put an action on them! ←
14:20:21 <adler1> intellectually it seems we are seeking new use cases to justify new ideas instead of investigating existing use cases more deeply to discover what we already may have
Steven Adler: intellectually it seems we are seeking new use cases to justify new ideas instead of investigating existing use cases more deeply to discover what we already may have ←
14:20:23 <Caroline_> Zakim, P22 is AdrianoC
Caroline Burle: Zakim, P22 is AdrianoC ←
14:20:23 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'P22'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'P22' ←
14:20:34 <AdrianoC> zakim, P22 is me
Adriano Pereira: zakim, P22 is me ←
14:20:34 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC, I do not recognize a party named 'P22'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AdrianoC, I do not recognize a party named 'P22' ←
14:20:37 <Caroline_> Zakim, ??P22 is AdrianoC
Caroline Burle: Zakim, ??P22 is AdrianoC ←
14:20:37 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AdrianoC; got it ←
14:20:47 <Zakim> -cgueret
Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret ←
14:21:17 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
14:21:21 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
14:21:29 <cgueret> zakim, ??P31 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P31 is me ←
14:21:29 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
14:21:31 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
14:21:31 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
14:21:31 <phila> action: Deirdre to review issues around UCR and contact individual use case authors to review them in the light of current issues and create relevant actions
ACTION: Deirdre to review issues around UCR and contact individual use case authors to review them in the light of current issues and create relevant actions ←
14:21:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-130 - Review issues around ucr and contact individual use case authors to review them in the light of current issues and create relevant actions [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-11-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-130 - Review issues around ucr and contact individual use case authors to review them in the light of current issues and create relevant actions [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-11-21]. ←
14:21:58 <antoine> [ annette_g asks about the rational for publishing UCs, deirdrelee answers]
[ annette_g asks about the rational for publishing UCs, deirdrelee answers] ←
14:23:22 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:23:27 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g
Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g ←
14:23:44 <antoine> [phila digs up what other groups have done - CSVW ]
[phila digs up what other groups have done - CSVW ] ←
14:23:56 <deirdrelee> ack adler1
Deirdre Lee: ack adler1 ←
14:24:03 <antoine> zakim, ack adler
zakim, ack adler ←
14:24:03 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one on the speaker queue ←
14:24:21 <antoine> adler1: UC are important for relevancy
Steven Adler: UC are important for relevancy ←
14:24:28 <antoine> ... the publishing is less important
... the publishing is less important ←
14:24:47 <antoine> ... and it seems we're in a never ending process of revising UCs
... and it seems we're in a never ending process of revising UCs ←
14:25:00 <phila> http://www.w3.org/TR/ldp-ucr/ http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-ucr/ http://www.w3.org/TR/webaudio-usecases/
Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/TR/ldp-ucr/ http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-ucr/ http://www.w3.org/TR/webaudio-usecases/ ←
14:25:07 <antoine> ... It seems that we've done a superficial documentation job on existing UCs
... It seems that we've done a superficial documentation job on existing UCs ←
14:25:25 <annette_g> +1 to working use case to requirements, not the other way
Annette Greiner: +1 to working use case to requirements, not the other way ←
14:25:36 <antoine> ...The intent of light use cases was to establish contact
...The intent of light use cases was to establish contact ←
14:25:54 <antoine> ... with owners, start a more organic process than what we have.
... with owners, start a more organic process than what we have. ←
14:26:12 <nathalia> +1
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: +1 ←
14:26:26 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
14:26:32 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:26:40 <antoine> ... UC like Palo Alto and NYC are really wide. They probably have discussed everything we're discussing
... UC like Palo Alto and NYC are really wide. They probably have discussed everything we're discussing ←
14:26:48 <phila> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
14:26:53 <antoine> deirdrelee: we agree
Deirdre Lee: we agree ←
14:27:17 <antoine> ... we're in process of refining, finding more details
... we're in process of refining, finding more details ←
14:27:33 <antoine> ... what we need is not necessarily new UC, but diving deeper in existing UCs
... what we need is not necessarily new UC, but diving deeper in existing UCs ←
14:27:39 <deirdrelee> zakim, ack annette_g
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ack annette_g ←
14:27:39 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one on the speaker queue ←
14:27:53 <antoine> annette_g: we could look at them from the perspective of data re-user
Annette Greiner: we could look at them from the perspective of data re-user ←
14:28:04 <antoine> ... not only the perspective of publisher
... not only the perspective of publisher ←
14:28:23 <antoine> deirdrelee: seems a sensible idea
Deirdre Lee: seems a sensible idea ←
14:28:43 <antoine> ... the scope is data on the web, so before it's used, but it's published to be used.
... the scope is data on the web, so before it's used, but it's published to be used. ←
14:28:57 <antoine> ... We seem to have general agreement
... We seem to have general agreement ←
14:29:16 <antoine> deirdrelee: BAck to issue-48. Phil should we close?
Deirdre Lee: BAck to ISSUE-48. Phil should we close? ←
14:29:39 <antoine> phila: we should have a list of current issues that UC owner should look at
Phil Archer: we should have a list of current issues that UC owner should look at ←
14:30:09 <antoine> ... if we find a UC that says something that someone else has said, the UC could be removed
... if we find a UC that says something that someone else has said, the UC could be removed ←
14:30:33 <antoine> deirdrelee: way to relate this to actions?
Deirdre Lee: way to relate this to actions? ←
14:30:43 <antoine> phila: your action should be enough
Phil Archer: your action should be enough ←
14:30:58 <antoine> ... Including ISSUE-X in the mail you send seems ok.
... Including ISSUE-X in the mail you send seems ok. ←
14:31:41 <antoine> ... same for issue-48, issue-49, issue50...
... same for ISSUE-48, ISSUE-49, ISSUE-50... ←
14:31:53 <antoine> deirdrelee: We could list the issues now
Deirdre Lee: We could list the issues now ←
14:31:57 <phila> issue-49?
14:31:58 <trackbot> issue-49 -- Phil to either improve on the definition of "reference vocabulary", or point to existing definitions -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-49 -- Phil to either improve on the definition of "reference vocabulary", or point to existing definitions -- open ←
14:31:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/49
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/49 ←
14:32:02 <phila> issue-50?
14:32:02 <trackbot> issue-50 -- Bernadette to help us find more use cases on the vocabulary itself (including creating a vocabulary) -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-50 -- Bernadette to help us find more use cases on the vocabulary itself (including creating a vocabulary) -- open ←
14:32:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/50
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/50 ←
14:32:29 <phila> issue-51?
14:32:29 <trackbot> issue-51 -- Phil to clarify the use of the word "provenance" any potential confusion it causes -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-51 -- Phil to clarify the use of the word "provenance" any potential confusion it causes -- open ←
14:32:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/51
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/51 ←
14:32:54 <antoine> phila: it's part of the action of looking back at UCs
Phil Archer: it's part of the action of looking back at UCs ←
14:33:26 <antoine> [ phila looking at issues]
[ phila looking at issues] ←
14:33:38 <phila> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html
Phil Archer: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html ←
14:34:01 <antoine> phila: there's a need to publish a new version no later than Dec 2!
Phil Archer: there's a need to publish a new version no later than Dec 2! ←
14:34:30 <antoine> ... it would be good to make enough progress on the document so that we can release a new version
... it would be good to make enough progress on the document so that we can release a new version ←
14:34:33 <BernadetteLoscio> I think we should discuss the new requirements from the new use cases
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think we should discuss the new requirements from the new use cases ←
14:34:44 <antoine> ... The kind of discussion we're having is useful for this.
... The kind of discussion we're having is useful for this. ←
14:34:59 <BernadetteLoscio> yes... im talking for the next version
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes... im talking for the next version ←
14:35:30 <antoine> phila: annette_g and Eric Stephan have put new UCs
Phil Archer: annette_g and Eric Stephan have put new UCs ←
14:35:43 <phila> issue-91?
14:35:43 <trackbot> issue-91 -- New req: Locations (countries, regions, cities etc.) must be referred to consistently -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-91 -- New req: Locations (countries, regions, cities etc.) must be referred to consistently -- open ←
14:35:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/91
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/91 ←
14:35:45 <antoine> ... which resulted in new Reqs
... which resulted in new Reqs ←
14:36:08 <phila> R-Location
Phil Archer: R-Location ←
14:36:09 <phila> Locations (countries, regions, cities etc.) must be referred to consistently
Phil Archer: Locations (countries, regions, cities etc.) must be referred to consistently ←
14:36:10 <antoine> phila: two new UCS make a lot of ref to location
Phil Archer: two new UCS make a lot of ref to locations ←
14:36:23 <antoine> s/location/locations
14:36:41 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:36:42 <antoine> ... it's not rocket science, but it is relevant, and testable
... it's not rocket science, but it is relevant, and testable ←
14:36:44 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
14:36:56 <antoine> ... it has the three (meta) requirements we need
... it has the three (meta) requirements we need ←
14:37:01 <phila> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html#R-Location
Phil Archer: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html#R-Location ←
14:37:09 <antoine> ... to declare it relevant. If the group agrees
... to declare it relevant. If the group agrees ←
14:37:21 <antoine> deirdrelee: something about code lists?
Deirdre Lee: something about code lists? ←
14:37:31 <antoine> phila: yes
Phil Archer: yes ←
14:37:53 <antoine> deirdrelee: maybe we could add "for example, a location code list" for this
Deirdre Lee: maybe we could add "for example, a location code list" for this ←
14:38:00 <antoine> q+
q+ ←
14:38:32 <antoine> phila: we could recommend to use URIs for countries
Phil Archer: we could recommend to use URIs for countries ←
14:38:43 <antoine> ... some don't like this, but the data should be consistent in any case
... some don't like this, but the data should be consistent in any case ←
14:39:02 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
14:39:09 <deirdrelee> zakim, ack deirdrelee
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ack deirdrelee ←
14:39:09 <Zakim> I see antoine, laufer on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see antoine, laufer on the speaker queue ←
14:39:17 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers ←
14:39:22 <BernadetteLoscio> location is a kind of metadata, no?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: location is a kind of metadata, no? ←
14:39:40 <deirdrelee> zakim, ack antoine
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ack antoine ←
14:39:40 <Zakim> I see laufer on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see laufer on the speaker queue ←
14:40:06 <phila> antoine: On code lists... my own project is an example. We just use text for countries. Code lists like ISO codes 3166-X would prove useful
Antoine Isaac: On code lists... my own project is an example. We just use text for countries. Code lists like ISO codes 3166-X would prove useful [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:40:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:40:22 <phila> ... so I'd be in favour of adding this example of a locatiomn code list to the use case
Phil Archer: ... so I'd be in favour of adding this example of a locatiomn code list to the use case ←
14:40:26 <laufer> zakim, unmute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←
14:40:26 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted ←
14:40:31 <deirdrelee> zakim, ack antoine
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ack antoine ←
14:40:31 <Zakim> I see laufer on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see laufer on the speaker queue ←
14:40:32 <phila> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
14:40:36 <phila> ack laufer
Phil Archer: ack laufer ←
14:40:39 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ipcaller is me
Makx Dekkers: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
14:40:39 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers; got it ←
14:40:55 <antoine> laufer: we will find a lot of things particular to each of the publication.
Carlos Laufer: we will find a lot of things particular to each of the publication. ←
14:41:14 <antoine> ... it will be difficult to define the exaxt form to do this
... it will be difficult to define the exact way to do this ←
14:41:22 <antoine> s/exaxt/exact
14:41:30 <antoine> q+
q+ ←
14:41:48 <antoine> s/form/way
14:41:50 <BernadetteLoscio> i think that the recommendation of URIs should be general, not just for countries
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i think that the recommendation of URIs should be general, not just for countries ←
14:41:51 <hadleybeeman> a+
Hadley Beeman: a+ ←
14:41:55 <hadleybeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:41:59 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:42:04 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
14:42:05 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
14:42:32 <phila> antoine: laufer - think you're right. We prob cannot force people to use one list for everyone, but we can recommend some patterns
Antoine Isaac: laufer - think you're right. We prob cannot force people to use one list for everyone, but we can recommend some patterns [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:42:50 <phila> ... like ISO codes, URI sets etc. and you might want to encourage their use in a given community
Phil Archer: ... like ISO codes, URI sets etc. and you might want to encourage their use in a given community ←
14:43:01 <phila> +1 to antoine
Phil Archer: +1 to antoine ←
14:43:08 <Eric_Kauz> +1 to antoine
14:43:13 <phila> ack hadleybeeman
Phil Archer: ack hadleybeeman ←
14:43:13 <phila> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
14:43:18 <antoine> q-
q- ←
14:43:18 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to antoine
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to antoine ←
14:43:18 <phila> q- antoine
Phil Archer: q- antoine ←
14:43:18 <deirdrelee> zakim, ack hadleybeeman
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ack hadleybeeman ←
14:43:19 <Zakim> I see phila on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see phila on the speaker queue ←
14:43:46 <antoine> hadleybeeman: list of countries are very political
Hadley Beeman: list of countries are very political ←
14:44:12 <phila> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:44:18 <phila> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#bp-license
Phil Archer: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#bp-license ←
14:44:30 <antoine> deirdre + phila : we agree
deirdre + phila : we agree ←
14:44:55 <antoine> phila: pointing to the license BP: it doesn't specify one single way to do it
Phil Archer: pointing to the license BP: it doesn't specify one single way to do it ←
14:45:11 <antoine> ... rather, it says what the intension is, and gives possible implementation
... rather, it says what the intension is, and gives possible implementation ←
14:45:27 <antoine> ... sthg like "here's one acceptable way you could do it"
... sthg like "here's one acceptable way you could do it" ←
14:45:41 <BernadetteLoscio> I guess that some metadata values should be defined bt URIs, for examploe: location
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I guess that some metadata values should be defined bt URIs, for example: location ←
14:46:04 <antoine> deirdrelee: should we incorporate the req?
Deirdre Lee: should we incorporate the req? ←
14:46:27 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
14:46:33 <antoine> Steve: it's a specific field: should it be included explicitly?
Steven Adler: it's a specific field: should it be included explicitly? ←
14:46:38 <antoine> ... GIS is super important
... GIS is super important ←
14:46:57 <nathalia> s/examploe/example
14:47:01 <antoine> ... but does it deserve specific formal requirement?
... but does it deserve specific formal requirement? ←
14:47:16 <antoine> phila: if it's not included then it won't be in the BP doc
Phil Archer: if it's not included then it won't be in the BP doc ←
14:47:23 <antoine> steve: I'm good with it!
Steven Adler: I'm good with it! ←
14:47:38 <hadleybeeman> +1 to PhilA
Hadley Beeman: +1 to PhilA ←
14:47:40 <phila> Locations (countries, regions, cities etc.) must be referred to consistently
Phil Archer: Locations (countries, regions, cities etc.) must be referred to consistently ←
14:47:54 <annette_g> q-
Annette Greiner: q- ←
14:48:03 <BernadetteLoscio> +q
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +q ←
14:48:04 <antoine> phila: this is the current phrase, the intension was to link it to the use of code lists
Phil Archer: this is the current phrase, the intension was to link it to the use of code lists ←
14:48:27 <antoine> adler1: most of the UCs I wrote have GIS/maps in them
Steven Adler: most of the UCs I wrote have GIS/maps in them ←
14:49:01 <antoine> ... which location: location in map or physical location?
... which location: location in map or physical location? ←
14:49:13 <antoine> phila: many cases
Phil Archer: many cases ←
14:49:27 <phila> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
14:49:30 <antoine> ... as long as the case have consistent practice
... as long as the case have consistent practice ←
14:49:39 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio ←
14:49:39 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted ←
14:49:47 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio
Phil Archer: ack BernadetteLoscio ←
14:49:57 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: not sure the requirement should be specific to location
Bernadette Farias Loscio: not sure the requirement should be specific to location ←
14:50:05 <antoine> ... other type of metadtaa could have the same
... other type of metadata could have the same ←
14:50:05 <phila> q+ to say it's not all about metadata
Phil Archer: q+ to say it's not all about metadata ←
14:50:12 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
14:50:22 <antoine> adler1: is there a downside?
Steven Adler: is there a downside? ←
14:50:26 <laufer> +1 to bernadette
Carlos Laufer: +1 to bernadette ←
14:50:34 <phila> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:50:34 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to say it's not all about metadata
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to say it's not all about metadata ←
14:50:34 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
14:50:35 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
14:50:38 <antoine> ... I don't think it's exclusive
... I don't think it's exclusive ←
14:50:47 <nathalia> s/metadtaa/metadata
14:51:28 <antoine> phila: yes, spatial is relevant for metadata. Also for structural data itself.
Phil Archer: yes, spatial is relevant for metadata. Also for structural metadata and data itself itself. ←
14:51:36 <BernadetteLoscio> ok... i understand
Bernadette Farias Loscio: ok... i understand ←
14:51:40 <BernadetteLoscio> but again...
Bernadette Farias Loscio: but again... ←
14:51:50 <antoine> s/structural data/structural metadata and data itself
14:51:52 <BernadetteLoscio> it should be a general requirement, no?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: it should be a general requirement, no? ←
14:52:02 <BernadetteLoscio> for both data and metadata?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: for both data and metadata? ←
14:52:20 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:52:30 <nathalia> s/lomng/long
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: s/lomng/long (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:52:53 <BernadetteLoscio> data and metadata values should be referred to consistently
Bernadette Farias Loscio: data and metadata values should be referred to consistently ←
14:53:02 <MakxDekkers> q+
Makx Dekkers: q+ ←
14:53:09 <antoine> deirdrelee: technically location is included in the code list but there's no harm making it a separate requirement
Deirdre Lee: technically location is included in the code list but there's no harm making it a separate requirement ←
14:53:31 <antoine> annette_g: there maybe other metadata type that raise to the same level
Annette Greiner: there maybe other metadata type that raise to the same level ←
14:53:49 <antoine> ... maybe we can convert this a best practice that lists the different types that should be concerned
... maybe we can convert this a best practice that lists the different types that should be concerned ←
14:54:08 <antoine> makx: I want to add language!
Makx Dekkers: I want to add language! ←
14:54:21 <Eric_Kauz> currency too.
14:54:24 <antoine> deirdrelee: this is getting close to a list of critical data types
Deirdre Lee: this is getting close to a list of critical data types ←
14:54:36 <phila> q+ to make a suggestion based on what Makx just said
Phil Archer: q+ to make a suggestion based on what Makx just said ←
14:54:38 <MakxDekkers> +1 to currency
Makx Dekkers: +1 to currency ←
14:54:41 <BernadetteLoscio> so... this should be a general requirement
Bernadette Farias Loscio: so... this should be a general requirement ←
14:54:45 <MakxDekkers> q-
Makx Dekkers: q- ←
14:54:53 <annette_g> q-
Annette Greiner: q- ←
14:55:33 <antoine> phila: deirdre took an action on asking people to look at their UC
Phil Archer: deirdre took an action on asking people to look at their UC ←
14:55:49 <antoine> ... we could ask people with specific interest to look at a wider range of UC
... we could ask people with specific interest to look at a wider range of UC ←
14:56:07 <antoine> ... trying to detect whether their favorite topic could be represented in the UC
... trying to detect whether their favorite topic could be represented in the UC ←
14:56:12 <phila> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
14:56:13 <annette_g> +1 to phil
Annette Greiner: +1 to phil ←
14:56:32 <MakxDekkers> I think language applies to each and every use case
Makx Dekkers: I think language applies to each and every use case ←
14:56:39 <antoine> deirdrelee: what would be the end result. E.g. "language should be described consistently"?
Deirdre Lee: what would be the end result. E.g. "language should be described consistently"? ←
14:56:50 <antoine> ... separate requirements for everything?
... separate requirements for everything? ←
14:56:51 <MakxDekkers> at least when there is any text involved
Makx Dekkers: at least when there is any text involved ←
14:57:01 <BernadetteLoscio> and for the data?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: and for the data? ←
14:57:04 <antoine> ... where do we draw the line?
... where do we draw the line? ←
14:57:36 <MakxDekkers> q+
Makx Dekkers: q+ ←
14:58:02 <yaso> +1 to Phila
Yaso Córdova: +1 to Phila ←
14:58:27 <antoine> adler1: BP should apply to all the data points we've discussed
Steven Adler: BP should apply to all the data points we've discussed ←
14:59:37 <antoine> ... but I don't think to spend time on each BP (location etc)
... but I don't think to spend time on each BP (location etc) ←
15:00:07 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
15:00:10 <antoine> ... we would imagine how the world should be based on our standards
... we would imagine how the world should be based on our standards ←
15:00:48 <antoine> MakxDekkers: we're talking about a number of things that could be expressed as code lists
Makx Dekkers: we're talking about a number of things that could be expressed as code lists ←
15:01:03 <antoine> ... maybe we could cover that aspect as an horizontal issue
... maybe we could cover that aspect as an horizontal issue ←
15:01:09 <antoine> ... in the BP document
... in the BP document ←
15:01:23 <antoine> ... we should have a general view.
... we should have a general view. ←
15:01:31 <BernadetteLoscio> +1 to Makx
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 to Makx ←
15:01:41 <hadleybeeman> q+ to respond to Makx about requirement s not in the use cases
Hadley Beeman: q+ to respond to Makx about requirement s not in the use cases ←
15:01:59 <phila> q- MakxDekkers
Phil Archer: q- MakxDekkers ←
15:02:02 <phila> ack annette_g
Phil Archer: ack annette_g ←
15:02:06 <phila> ack hadleybeeman
Phil Archer: ack hadleybeeman ←
15:02:06 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to respond to Makx about requirement s not in the use cases
Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to respond to Makx about requirement s not in the use cases ←
15:02:11 <antoine> annette_g: if it helps people we can put at higher level
Annette Greiner: if it helps people we can put at higher level ←
15:02:14 <phila> zakim, close q
Phil Archer: zakim, close q ←
15:02:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close q', phila
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'close q', phila ←
15:02:26 <phila> zakim, close the queue
Phil Archer: zakim, close the queue ←
15:02:26 <Zakim> ok, phila, the speaker queue is closed
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila, the speaker queue is closed ←
15:02:37 <antoine> hadleybeeman: I'm a bit worried about 'horizontal' phrasing
Hadley Beeman: I'm a bit worried about 'horizontal' phrasing ←
15:02:41 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public
Phil Archer: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
15:02:50 <BernadetteLoscio> +1 to Makx to have a general view
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 to Makx to have a general view ←
15:03:18 <antoine> deirdrelee: good discussion, even though we've not closed issues!
Deirdre Lee: good discussion, even though we've not closed issues! ←
15:03:24 <MakxDekkers> bye
Makx Dekkers: bye ←
15:03:26 <yaso> Bye
Yaso Córdova: Bye ←
15:03:27 <nathalia> bye
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye ←
15:03:27 <Zakim> -Caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: -Caroline_ ←
15:03:27 <Zakim> -Steve
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steve ←
15:03:29 <BernadetteLoscio> entendi que deveria ser tratado bye
Bernadette Farias Loscio: entendi que deveria ser tratado bye ←
15:03:29 <Zakim> -Yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso ←
15:03:30 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee ←
15:03:30 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz
Zakim IRC Bot: -Eric_Kauz ←
15:03:30 <newton> bye
Newton Calegari: bye ←
15:03:31 <RiccardoAlbertoni> thanks, bye
Riccardo Albertoni: thanks, bye ←
15:03:31 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
15:03:31 <annette_g> bye
Annette Greiner: bye ←
15:03:32 <laufer> bye all, nice wk
Carlos Laufer: bye all, nice wk ←
15:03:34 <jerdeb> BYE
Jeremy Debattista: BYE ←
15:03:36 <adler1> nice call!
Steven Adler: nice call! ←
15:03:38 <Zakim> -phila
Zakim IRC Bot: -phila ←
15:03:38 <AdrianoC> Good bye!
Adriano Pereira: Good bye! ←
15:03:39 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
15:03:41 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
15:03:43 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers ←
15:03:45 <Zakim> -laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer ←
15:04:00 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
15:04:06 <Zakim> -AdrianoC
Zakim IRC Bot: -AdrianoC ←
15:04:08 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni
Zakim IRC Bot: -RiccardoAlbertoni ←
15:04:08 <phila> trackbot end meeting
Phil Archer: trackbot end meeting ←
15:04:08 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
15:04:09 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.609.557.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, Newton, Flavio, Nathalia, Yaso, Eric_Kauz,
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been +1.609.557.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, antoine, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, Newton, Flavio, Nathalia, Yaso, Eric_Kauz, ←
15:04:09 <Zakim> ... Caroline_, laufer, BernadetteLoscio, cgueret, Steve, jerdeb, MakxDekkers, AdrianoC
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Caroline_, laufer, BernadetteLoscio, cgueret, Steve, jerdeb, MakxDekkers, AdrianoC ←
15:04:14 <Zakim> -annette_g
Zakim IRC Bot: -annette_g ←
15:04:16 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
15:04:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-minutes.html trackbot ←
15:04:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
15:04:17 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-actions.rdf : ←
15:04:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Deirdre to review issues around UCR and contact individual use case authors to review them in the light of current issues and create relevant actions [1]
ACTION: Deirdre to review issues around UCR and contact individual use case authors to review them in the light of current issues and create relevant actions [1] ←
15:04:17 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-irc#T14-21-31-2
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-dwbp-irc#T14-21-31-2 ←
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