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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 19 September 2014

Seen
Antoine Isaac, Carlos Iglesias, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Hadley Beeman, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Mark Harrison, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler, Sumit Purohit, Yaso Córdova
Regrets
Antoine Isaac, Makx Dekkers, Deirdre Lee, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto
Chair
Yaso Córdova
Scribe
Caroline Burle
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

Topics
12:58:13 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/09/19-dwbp-irc

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12:58:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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12:58:17 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

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12:58:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:58:18 <trackbot> Date: 19 September 2014
12:59:16 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140919

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140919 ←

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13:00:03 <Zakim> + +1.609.947.aabb

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13:00:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:00:25 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit

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13:00:30 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me ←

13:00:30 <Zakim> +phila; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it ←

13:01:10 <Zakim> +newton

Zakim IRC Bot: +newton ←

13:01:25 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim,  +39.349.096.aaaa is RiccardoAlbertoni

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aaaa is RiccardoAlbertoni ←

13:01:26 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it ←

13:01:56 <EricKauz> zakim, aabb is me

Eric Kauz: zakim, aabb is me ←

13:01:56 <Zakim> +EricKauz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +EricKauz; got it ←

13:02:30 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←

13:03:06 <yaso> Of course, but I’ll need your help, since I’m kind of away of the calls :-)

Yaso Córdova: Of course, but I’ll need your help, since I’m kind of away of the calls :-) ←

13:05:35 <phila> chair: yaso
13:05:54 <phila> Regrets: Antoine, Makx, Deirdre, IgBittencourt
13:06:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:06:19 <antoine> zakim, IPCaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPCaller is me ←

13:06:19 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←

13:06:35 <phila> regrets- Antoine

Phil Archer: regrets- Antoine ←

13:06:39 <antoine> Regrets- Antoine

Antoine Isaac: Regrets- Antoine ←

13:06:46 <Caroline_> Yes!

Caroline Burle: Yes! ←

13:06:53 <phila> scribe: Caroline_

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

13:07:08 <newton> yes

Newton Calegari: yes ←

13:07:13 <Caroline_> Yaso: Have everybody registered to TPAC?

Yaso Córdova: Have everybody registered to TPAC? ←

13:07:25 <Caroline_> Phil: Still not

Phil Archer: Still not ←

13:07:26 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←

13:08:36 <Caroline_> +q

+q ←

13:08:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←

13:08:47 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←

13:08:47 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←

13:08:56 <Zakim> +ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan ←

13:08:57 <Caroline_> ... the point of highlighting this for you is that the room is going to be very full

... the point of highlighting this for you is that the room is going to be very full ←

13:09:24 <Caroline_> ... we might have to change a small group to another room

... we might have to change a small group to another room ←

13:09:41 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←

13:09:47 <Caroline_> ... I think there are 3 more weeks to register

... I think there are 3 more weeks to register ←

13:10:07 <Caroline_> ... please register soon because we need to make sure there is a room big enough for us

... please register soon because we need to make sure there is a room big enough for us ←

13:10:10 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+ ←

13:10:18 <phila> ack Caroline_

Phil Archer: ack Caroline_ ←

13:10:18 <HadleyBeeman> ack caroline_

Hadley Beeman: ack caroline_ ←

13:10:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←

13:10:32 <yaso> q-

Yaso Córdova: q- ←

13:10:35 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←

13:10:35 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←

13:10:42 <SumitPurohit> +q

Sumit Purohit: +q ←

13:10:48 <HadleyBeeman> thanks Caroline_. Sorry to be missing you!

Hadley Beeman: thanks Caroline_. Sorry to be missing you! ←

13:10:48 <yaso> Caroline will held remotely

Yaso Córdova: Caroline will held remotely ←

13:10:51 <Caroline_> Caroline: I will participate remotely

Caroline Burle: I will participate remotely ←

13:10:53 <HadleyBeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q? ←

13:11:06 <Caroline_> Yaso: anyone else will attend remotely?

Yaso Córdova: anyone else will attend remotely? ←

13:11:16 <markharrison> I will try to participate remotely in TPAC - not in person

Mark Harrison: I will try to participate remotely in TPAC - not in person ←

13:11:41 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+ ←

13:11:42 <ericstephan> I am desparately attempting to get approval for funding to travel...I will be a part of it either way...

Eric Stephan: I am desparately attempting to get approval for funding to travel...I will be a part of it either way... ←

13:11:43 <antoine> I may try as well, but with the time difference it won't be easy.

Antoine Isaac: I may try as well, but with the time difference it won't be easy. ←

13:11:55 <Caroline_> Phil: Caroline_ you are right to not register if you are attending remotely. I wonder if remotely attendees should put on the wiki

Phil Archer: Caroline_ you are right to not register if you are attending remotely. I wonder if remotely attendees should put on the wiki ←

13:12:04 <Caroline_> Hadley: yes, that would be nice

Hadley Beeman: yes, that would be nice ←

13:12:12 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←

13:12:21 <Caroline_> Yaso: we don't have a agenda for TPAC yet

Yaso Córdova: we don't have a agenda for TPAC yet ←

13:12:31 <Caroline_> ... we are waiting for more confirmations

... we are waiting for more confirmations ←

13:12:32 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+ ←

13:12:35 <Zakim> +adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1 ←

13:12:38 <HadleyBeeman> ack sumit

Hadley Beeman: ack sumit ←

13:12:46 <Caroline_> ... and then we will make the agenda soon

... and then we will make the agenda soon ←

13:12:57 <newton> Zakim, newton has yaso, Caroline_, nathalia

Newton Calegari: Zakim, newton has yaso, Caroline_, nathalia ←

13:12:57 <Zakim> +yaso, Caroline_, nathalia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso, Caroline_, nathalia; got it ←

13:12:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←

13:13:08 <adler1_> hi all

Steven Adler: hi all ←

13:13:16 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, [IPcaller] is me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←

13:13:16 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it ←

13:13:32 <Caroline_> Hadley: I am creating a wikipage for the agenda of TPAC now

Hadley Beeman: I am creating a wikipage for the agenda of TPAC now ←

13:13:49 <Caroline_> Yaso: it would be better if we start with topic 3 on the agenda

Yaso Córdova: it would be better if we start with topic 3 on the agenda ←

13:13:58 <Caroline_> ... do you all agree?

... do you all agree? ←

13:14:07 <Caroline_> Hadley: yes!

Hadley Beeman: yes! ←

13:14:19 <Caroline_> Yaso: topic 3 is each deliverable

Yaso Córdova: topic 3 is each deliverable ←

13:14:34 <Caroline_> ... Bernadette and Deirdelee are not here

... Bernadette and Deirdelee are not here ←

13:14:39 <markharrison> Thanks, Hadley - if you can start a list of participants attending TPAC in person and those attending remotely, we'll all add our names to the corresponding list

Mark Harrison: Thanks, Hadley - if you can start a list of participants attending TPAC in person and those attending remotely, we'll all add our names to the corresponding list ←

13:14:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←

13:14:47 <Caroline_> Phil: I have a few words on the use cases

Phil Archer: I have a few words on the use cases ←

13:15:31 <Zakim> + +44.122.333.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.122.333.aacc ←

13:15:36 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←

13:15:36 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←

13:15:39 <adler1_> I met with Tom Schenck, Chief Data Officer of Chicago and they are deploying Rasberry devices throughout the city and I discussed with him doing a use case presentation to our team

Steven Adler: I met with Tom Schenck, Chief Data Officer of Chicago and they are deploying Rasberry devices throughout the city and I discussed with him doing a use case presentation to our team ←

13:15:40 <markharrison> zakim, aacc is markharrison

Mark Harrison: zakim, aacc is markharrison ←

13:15:40 <Zakim> +markharrison; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +markharrison; got it ←

13:15:54 <Caroline_> ... I have talked with Deirdre and we should look at them during TPAC

... I have talked with Deirdre and we should look at them during TPAC ←

13:16:11 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+ ←

13:16:17 <Caroline_> ... I am concerned about the content and we should help them. Should we do it before or during TPAC?

... I am concerned about the content and we should help them. Should we do it before or during TPAC? ←

13:16:20 <yaso> Ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: Ack HadleyBeeman ←

13:16:25 <yaso> q-

Yaso Córdova: q- ←

13:16:43 <phila> -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html Current editor's draft of the UCR

Phil Archer: -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html Current editor's draft of the UCR ←

13:16:51 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: my vote is to keep things being done as soon as possible because we always have things to do at TPAC

Hadley Beeman: my vote is to keep things being done as soon as possible because we always have things to do at TPAC ←

13:16:58 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+ ←

13:17:17 <Caroline_> yaso: next topic is best practices series

Yaso Córdova: next topic is best practices series ←

13:17:26 <Caroline_> ... the editors are Bernadette and Caroline_

... the editors are Bernadette and Caroline_ ←

13:17:58 <Caroline_> ... I would like to suggest that newton could be also an editor

... I would like to suggest that newton could be also an editor ←

13:17:59 <Caroline_> q+

q+ ←

13:18:00 <yaso> ok, tks Hadley!

Yaso Córdova: ok, tks Hadley! ←

13:18:05 <yaso> ack Caroline_

Yaso Córdova: ack Caroline_ ←

13:18:42 <Caroline_> Caroline_: would be very helpfull if newton could be added as an editor

Caroline Burle: would be very helpfull if newton could be added as an editor ←

13:18:43 <yaso> The proposal is to add Newton as a series editor

Yaso Córdova: The proposal is to add Newton as a series editor ←

13:19:00 <yaso> q-

Yaso Córdova: q- ←

13:19:16 <yaso> There’s noise on the call.

Yaso Córdova: There’s noise on the call. ←

13:19:18 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy? ←

13:19:19 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: just the the two editors must agree on that

Hadley Beeman: just the the two editors must agree on that ←

13:19:27 <Caroline_> Caroline_: I will talk with Bernadette

Caroline Burle: I will talk with Bernadette ←

13:19:28 <yaso> zakim, who’s making noise?

Yaso Córdova: zakim, who’s making noise? ←

13:19:28 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso. ←

13:19:30 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (79%)

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (79%) ←

13:19:37 <HadleyBeeman> and the chairs of the working group should be part of the decision too, caroline_

Hadley Beeman: and the chairs of the working group should be part of the decision too, caroline_ ←

13:19:39 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute laufer

Zakim, mute laufer ←

13:19:39 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←

13:19:46 <HadleyBeeman> But we will definitely lean towards what the editors want

Hadley Beeman: But we will definitely lean towards what the editors want ←

13:19:47 <laufer> sorry

Carlos Laufer: sorry ←

13:19:58 <Caroline_> Caroline_: okay, Hadley

Caroline Burle: okay, Hadley ←

13:20:01 <laufer> a lot of dogs barking here...

Carlos Laufer: a lot of dogs barking here... ←

13:20:24 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: I think the chairs will agree with this recommendation on the editors

Hadley Beeman: I think the chairs will agree with this recommendation on the editors ←

13:21:18 <yaso> Talking about the URI Design and Management for Persistence: Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton

Yaso Córdova: Talking about the URI Design and Management for Persistence: Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton ←

13:21:24 <Caroline_> yaso: lets talk about the  URI Design and Management for Persistence:      Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton

Yaso Córdova: lets talk about the URI Design and Management for Persistence: Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton ←

13:21:33 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+ ←

13:21:40 <yaso> Ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: Ack HadleyBeeman ←

13:22:28 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: about the draft of the document. Does it need to be reviewed?

Hadley Beeman: about the draft of the document. Does it need to be reviewed? ←

13:23:35 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←

13:23:47 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←

13:23:47 <adler1_> +1 phila

Steven Adler: +1 phila ←

13:24:13 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+ ←

13:24:22 <yaso> ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: ack HadleyBeeman ←

13:24:39 <phila> action: phila to review the COMURI paper

ACTION: phila to review the COMURI paper ←

13:24:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Review the comuri paper [on Phil Archer - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-79 - Review the comuri paper [on Phil Archer - due 2014-09-26]. ←

13:24:52 <adler1_> very interesting document

Steven Adler: very interesting document ←

13:25:16 <adler1_> I will share internally with my technical colleagues in IBM to get feedback

Steven Adler: I will share internally with my technical colleagues in IBM to get feedback ←

13:25:20 <phila> action carlos iglesias to review the COMURI

Phil Archer: action carlos iglesias to review the COMURI ←

13:25:21 <trackbot> 'carlos' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., carlosiglesias, claufer, dayures).

Trackbot IRC Bot: 'carlos' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., carlosiglesias, claufer, dayures). ←

13:25:29 <phila> action carlosIglesias to review the COMURI

Phil Archer: action carlosIglesias to review the COMURI ←

13:25:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Review the comuri [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-80 - Review the comuri [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2014-09-26]. ←

13:26:00 <phila> action newton to review COMURI document

Phil Archer: action newton to review COMURI document ←

13:26:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Review comuri document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-81 - Review comuri document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26]. ←

13:26:02 <newton> Yes, I can look the document also

Newton Calegari: Yes, I can look the document also ←

13:26:16 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5 ←

13:26:32 <phila> action sumit to review COMURI doc

Phil Archer: action sumit to review COMURI doc ←

13:26:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Review comuri doc [on Sumit Purohit - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-82 - Review comuri doc [on Sumit Purohit - due 2014-09-26]. ←

13:26:35 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P5 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P5 is me ←

13:26:36 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it ←

13:26:54 <phila> action steven to get IBM team to look at COMURI doc

Phil Archer: action steven to get IBM team to look at COMURI doc ←

13:26:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Get ibm team to look at comuri doc [on Steven Adler - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-83 - Get ibm team to look at comuri doc [on Steven Adler - due 2014-09-26]. ←

13:27:31 <markharrison> Please also see this e-mail thread of some existing comments in relation to the document:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/0078.html

Mark Harrison: Please also see this e-mail thread of some existing comments in relation to the document: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/0078.html ←

13:27:45 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:29:34 <Caroline_> yaso: we can talk about number 2 on the agenda

Yaso Córdova: we can talk about number 2 on the agenda ←

13:29:40 <yaso> Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig

Yaso Córdova: Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig ←

13:29:49 <MTCarrasco> Caroline: I will self scribe

Caroline Burle: I will self scribe [ Scribe Assist by Manuel Carrasco Benitez ] ←

13:29:51 <Caroline_> ... Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: contributors are   Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig

... Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: contributors are Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig ←

13:29:55 <HadleyBeeman1> MTCarrasco: yes, this is what we agreed at the beginning.  Write things and then review as a group and decide how to publish.

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: yes, this is what we agreed at the beginning. Write things and then review as a group and decide how to publish. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←

13:29:59 <phila> MTCarrasco: just back from meeting with EU institutions on URI policy. The COMURI doc was part of that discussion. Will report in due course

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: just back from meeting with EU institutions on URI policy. The COMURI concept was fed to the Task Force.Will report in due course [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

13:30:22 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I amnot prepared to talk about it today

Eric Stephan: I amnot prepared to talk about it today ←

13:30:27 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:30:43 <MTCarrasco> Phil, did it

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Phil, did it ←

13:30:44 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←

13:30:45 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted ←

13:30:49 <Caroline_> yaso: let's talk then about  Guidance on the Provision of Metadata. The contributors are Makx, Carlos, Laufer, Bernadette

Yaso Córdova: let's talk then about Guidance on the Provision of Metadata. The contributors are Makx, Carlos, Laufer, Bernadette ←

13:31:15 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

13:31:28 <Caroline_> laufer: I sent a draft of this document and Mark has written as well

Carlos Laufer: I sent a draft of this document and Mark has written as well ←

13:31:49 <Caroline_> ... I think we have to decide what types of metadata we want to talk about

... I think we have to decide what types of metadata we want to talk about ←

13:32:08 <Caroline_> ... I think we have an overlapping with the other best practices

... I think we have an overlapping with the other best practices ←

13:32:30 <Caroline_> ... I have organized in a way that metadata is organized in ??

... I have organized in a way that metadata is organized in ?? ←

13:32:58 <Caroline_> ...  when people use the meatada they will have another kind of metadata and we have different ways to organized it

... when people use the meatada they will have another kind of metadata and we have different ways to organized it ←

13:33:17 <Caroline_> ... people who knows about license, or vocabularies, etc

... people who knows about license, or vocabularies, etc ←

13:33:23 <HadleyBeeman1> q+ re vocabularies

Hadley Beeman: q+ re vocabularies ←

13:33:52 <yaso> Ack phila

Yaso Córdova: Ack phila ←

13:33:52 <Caroline_> ... I think don't think we have a way to publish one or another vocabulary

... I think don't think we have a way to publish one or another vocabulary ←

13:34:03 <yaso> ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: ack HadleyBeeman ←

13:34:03 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, you wanted to discuss vocabularies

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, you wanted to discuss vocabularies ←

13:34:07 <MTCarrasco> s/The COMURI doc was part of that discussion. /The COMURI concept was fed to the Task Force./
13:34:22 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman1: Government Linked Data Working Group

Hadley Beeman: Government Linked Data Working Group ←

13:34:33 <newton> Zakim, who's making noise?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's making noise? ←

13:34:37 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←

13:34:37 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←

13:34:44 <Zakim> newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (30%), phila (9%), newton (69%), laufer (15%)

Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (30%), phila (9%), newton (69%), laufer (15%) ←

13:35:35 <Caroline_> phila: I believe HadleyBeeman1 is saying that we did some work on the previews linked data working group

Phil Archer: I believe HadleyBeeman1 is saying that we did some work on the previews linked data working group ←

13:35:46 <HadleyBeeman1> New vocabs are created regularly, and there are so many different use cases (which would need a different vocabulary)

Hadley Beeman: New vocabs are created regularly, and there are so many different use cases (which would need a different vocabulary) ←

13:35:46 <Caroline_> ... things change all the data

... things change all the data ←

13:35:59 <Caroline_> ... right now I am doing a work on which vocab we should use

... right now I am doing a work on which vocab we should use ←

13:36:19 <Caroline_> ...there is a lot of thoughts around that

...there is a lot of thoughts around that ←

13:36:28 <yaso> +1 to Phila

Yaso Córdova: +1 to Phila ←

13:36:30 <HadleyBeeman1> +1 phila!

Hadley Beeman: +1 phila! ←

13:36:31 <HadleyBeeman1> Spot on

Hadley Beeman: Spot on ←

13:36:35 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1 ←

13:36:35 <HadleyBeeman1> thank you :)

Hadley Beeman: thank you :) ←

13:36:38 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+ ←

13:36:44 <Caroline_> ... I think we should probably try to avoid naming voocabs because at the time we added them they might change

... I think we should probably try to avoid naming voocabs because at the time we added them they might change ←

13:36:52 <Caroline_> + 1 to phila and HadleyBeeman1

+ 1 to phila and HadleyBeeman1 ←

13:37:07 <laufer> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata

Carlos Laufer: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata ←

13:37:19 <Caroline_> phila: can I encourage please, through the chairs to get specific people to review the document you have written?

Phil Archer: can I encourage please, through the chairs to get specific people to review the document you have written? ←

13:37:28 <laufer> laufer, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: laufer, unmute me ←

13:37:31 <yaso> ack Laufer

Yaso Córdova: ack Laufer ←

13:37:36 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←

13:37:36 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer ←

13:37:40 <Caroline_> zakim, unmute laufer

zakim, unmute laufer ←

13:37:40 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, Caroline_

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, Caroline_ ←

13:37:52 <Caroline_> laufer: I gree that we do not have to name the vocabs

Carlos Laufer: I gree that we do not have to name the vocabs ←

13:38:24 <phila> q+ to raise a metadata issue

Phil Archer: q+ to raise a metadata issue ←

13:38:27 <Caroline_> ... it is important to name the metadata

... it is important to name the metadata ←

13:38:39 <antoine> q+ about types of metadata

Antoine Isaac: q+ about types of metadata ←

13:38:40 <Caroline_> ... e.g. metadata licenses, metadata governance, etc

... e.g. metadata licenses, metadata governance, etc ←

13:39:15 <phila> q+ antoine to ask about types of metadata

Phil Archer: q+ antoine to ask about types of metadata ←

13:39:19 <yaso> Mark, Antoine and Carlos to help with the document

Yaso Córdova: Mark, Antoine and Carlos to help with the document ←

13:39:20 <markharrison> +q to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend

Mark Harrison: +q to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend ←

13:39:21 <Caroline_> ... I think antoine and CarlosIglesias have thoughts about these issues

... I think antoine and CarlosIglesias have thoughts about these issues ←

13:39:25 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

13:39:25 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to raise a metadata issue

Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to raise a metadata issue ←

13:39:28 <yaso> ack Phila

Yaso Córdova: ack Phila ←

13:39:29 <Caroline_> ... they might review it

... they might review it ←

13:39:47 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←

13:39:47 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←

13:39:55 <Caroline_> phila: the use case documents does include use cases with different types of metada

Phil Archer: the use case documents does include use cases with different types of metada ←

13:40:14 <phila> https://twitter.com/andyhedges/status/512171711530549248

Phil Archer: https://twitter.com/andyhedges/status/512171711530549248 ←

13:40:21 <Caroline_> ... I came across another use case that I would like to share

... I came across another use case that I would like to share ←

13:40:32 <Caroline_> ... the high level use cases for the data use vocabs

... the high level use cases for the data use vocabs ←

13:41:03 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:41:15 <Caroline_> ... I came across one that the question on twitter was is there a way to??

... I came across one that the question on twitter was is there a way to?? ←

13:41:39 <Caroline_> ... if I got a video on youtube it is usefull to me to know how many times that video have been seen

... if I got a video on youtube it is usefull to me to know how many times that video have been seen ←

13:41:56 <Caroline_> ... it is encouraging that someone else have seen my video

... it is encouraging that someone else have seen my video ←

13:42:36 <Caroline_> ... come backing on what laufer was saying. laufer asking individual people to have a look is important

... come backing on what laufer was saying. laufer asking individual people to have a look is important ←

13:42:39 <phila> ack antoine

Phil Archer: ack antoine ←

13:42:39 <Zakim> antoine, you wanted to ask about types of metadata

Zakim IRC Bot: antoine, you wanted to ask about types of metadata ←

13:42:40 <yaso> ack antoine

Yaso Córdova: ack antoine ←

13:42:59 <Caroline_> antoine: I am not sure I understand what should be reviewed

Antoine Isaac: I am not sure I understand what should be reviewed ←

13:43:27 <Caroline_> ...I see other aspects on the sections

...I see other aspects on the sections ←

13:43:56 <Caroline_> ... I ask what else we should do?

... I ask what else we should do? ←

13:44:02 <yaso> ack markharrison

Yaso Córdova: ack markharrison ←

13:44:02 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison, you wanted to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at ←

13:44:02 <markharrison> +q to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used.  Maybe we need to recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it

Mark Harrison: +q to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used. Maybe we need to recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it ←

13:44:02 <phila> ack markharrison

Phil Archer: ack markharrison ←

13:44:04 <Zakim> ... https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend

Zakim IRC Bot: ... https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend ←

13:44:04 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used.  Maybe we need to

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison, you wanted to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used. Maybe we need to ←

13:44:07 <Zakim> ... recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it

Zakim IRC Bot: ... recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it ←

13:44:08 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:44:35 <Caroline_> markharrison: there are different types of metadata in there that we can review

Mark Harrison: there are different types of metadata in there that we can review ←

13:44:49 <Caroline_> ... next stage is beyonf that list what we wnat to do

... next stage is beyond that list what we want to do ←

13:45:00 <Caroline_> ... I think we got material tehre

... I think we got material tehre ←

13:45:12 <Caroline_> ... it is not that we don't have types of metadata

... it is not that we don't have types of metadata ←

13:45:21 <newton> Publishing and accessing versions of datasets

Newton Calegari: Publishing and accessing versions of datasets ←

13:45:39 <Caroline_> yaso: lets talk about Publishing and accessing versions of datasets

Yaso Córdova: lets talk about Publishing and accessing versions of datasets ←

13:45:47 <Caroline_> ... the contributors are Flavio and newton

... the contributors are Flavio and newton ←

13:46:05 <Caroline_> newton: Flavio is on vacation and we are discussion it by email

Newton Calegari: Flavio is on vacation and we are discussion it by email ←

13:46:09 <markharrison> s/beyonf/beyond/
13:46:18 <Caroline_> ... we will start a new document and we are asking for contributions

... we will start a new document and we are asking for contributions ←

13:46:21 <newton> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Publishing_and_accessing_versions_of_datasets

Newton Calegari: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Publishing_and_accessing_versions_of_datasets ←

13:46:23 <markharrison> s/wnat/want/
13:46:29 <Caroline_> yaso: anyone could contribute?

Yaso Córdova: anyone could contribute? ←

13:46:39 <HadleyBeeman1> Newton, where are you on it?

Hadley Beeman: Newton, where are you on it? ←

13:46:52 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman1: where is the project? which part are you working on?

Hadley Beeman: where is the project? which part are you working on? ←

13:46:58 <Caroline_> newton: we are in the beggining

Newton Calegari: we are in the beggining ←

13:47:10 <Caroline_> ... we are discusssing ideas of what put in the document

... we are discusssing ideas of what put in the document ←

13:47:14 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman1: thanks

Hadley Beeman: thanks ←

13:47:14 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:47:15 <MTCarrasco> I am interested in versions

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I am interested in versions ←

13:47:29 <HadleyBeeman1> newton, let us know if we can help.  Including MTCarrasco ^

Hadley Beeman: newton, let us know if we can help. Including MTCarrasco ^ ←

13:47:39 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: is interested in working in the versions because it is part of what will be in my document

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: is interested in working in the versions because it is part of what will be in my document ←

13:47:45 <Caroline_> newton: I will send you an email

Newton Calegari: I will send you an email ←

13:47:50 <Caroline_> yaso: topi 5

Yaso Córdova: topi 5 ←

13:48:01 <yaso> Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets: Mark, Antoine

Yaso Córdova: Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets: Mark, Antoine ←

13:48:01 <newton> action newton send email to Tomas about dataset versions document

Newton Calegari: action newton send email to Tomas about dataset versions document ←

13:48:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Send email to tomas about dataset versions document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-84 - Send email to tomas about dataset versions document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26]. ←

13:48:09 <MTCarrasco> Version identificationis already in COMURI

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Version identificationis already in COMURI ←

13:48:11 <Caroline_> ..  Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets:  contritbutors are    Mark, Antoine

.. Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets: contritbutors are Mark, Antoine ←

13:48:24 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:48:25 <Caroline_> markharrison: I will have updates next time

Mark Harrison: I will have updates next time ←

13:48:50 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking? ←

13:49:02 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: antoine (84%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: antoine (84%) ←

13:49:21 <Caroline_> antoine: I am making an introduction

Antoine Isaac: I am making an introduction ←

13:50:07 <antoine> repeating what I've said...

Antoine Isaac: repeating what I've said... ←

13:50:15 <antoine> I've read Mark's document

Antoine Isaac: I've read Mark's document ←

13:50:27 <phila> action: Mark to respond to Antoine's comments and update intro on making URI sets accessible

ACTION: Mark to respond to Antoine's comments and update intro on making URI sets accessible ←

13:50:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Respond to antoine's comments and update intro on making uri sets accessible [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-85 - Respond to antoine's comments and update intro on making uri sets accessible [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-09-26]. ←

13:50:28 <antoine> ... there is some difficulty about the scope

Antoine Isaac: ... there is some difficulty about the scope ←

13:50:35 <antoine> ... but after that it's great

Antoine Isaac: ... but after that it's great ←

13:50:46 <antoine> ... so with a carefully worded intro, we're almost finsihed!

Antoine Isaac: ... so with a carefully worded intro, we're almost finsihed! ←

13:50:53 <antoine> <end of scribing?

Antoine Isaac: <end of scribing> ←

13:51:00 <antoine> s/?/>
13:51:12 <newton> Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio

Newton Calegari: Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio ←

13:51:15 <phila> Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication

Phil Archer: Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication ←

13:51:24 <yaso> Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio

Yaso Córdova: Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio ←

13:51:29 <Caroline_> I am scribing, I just had problems understading antoine

I am scribing, I just had problems understading antoine ←

13:51:44 <Caroline_> yaso: let's talk about  Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation contributors are     Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso

Yaso Córdova: let's talk about Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation contributors are Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso ←

13:51:55 <newton> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication

Newton Calegari: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication ←

13:52:07 <Caroline_> nathalia: we are reading the use cases and writing our ideas on the wiki https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: we are reading the use cases and writing our ideas on the wiki https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication ←

13:52:14 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

13:52:16 <Caroline_> nathalia: does anyone wants to help?

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: does anyone wants to help? ←

13:52:18 <yaso> Ack phila

Yaso Córdova: Ack phila ←

13:52:29 <Caroline_> phila: I will put in touch with someone who could hlep

Phil Archer: I will put in touch with someone who could help ←

13:52:43 <HadleyBeeman1> s/hlep/help
13:53:03 <Caroline_> ... I will put in contact with someone knows about this

... I will put in contact with someone knows about this ←

13:53:17 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:53:43 <MTCarrasco> Newton version http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#variant-dimensions

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Newton version http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#variant-dimensions ←

13:53:49 <Caroline_> ... adler1_ knows a lot about it and also might have a conversation with nathalia and flavio

... adler1_ knows a lot about it and also might have a conversation with nathalia and flavio ←

13:54:06 <Caroline_> ... so I am voluntering adler1_ to help them

... so I am voluntering adler1_ to help them ←

13:54:24 <Caroline_> adler1_: specially if we can do it at TPAC

Steven Adler: specially if we can do it at TPAC ←

13:54:35 <nathalia> thanks

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: thanks ←

13:54:54 <Caroline_> yaso: next topic  Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation      Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso

Yaso Córdova: next topic Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso ←

13:55:06 <hadleybeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+ ←

13:55:07 <Caroline_> yaso: we will focus on open data for this topic

Yaso Córdova: we will focus on open data for this topic ←

13:55:15 <Caroline_> ... does everybody agree on that?

... does everybody agree on that? ←

13:55:17 <yaso> ack Hadleybeeman

Yaso Córdova: ack Hadleybeeman ←

13:55:21 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: I think we can define that

Hadley Beeman: I think we can define that ←

13:55:32 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1 ←

13:55:32 <phila> nathalia - take a look at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/images/c/c0/Paper_Publishing_high-value_datasets_as_a_priority.pdf for the European work on prioritisation od datasets

Phil Archer: nathalia - take a look at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/images/c/c0/Paper_Publishing_high-value_datasets_as_a_priority.pdf for the European work on prioritisation od datasets ←

13:55:35 <Caroline_> ... personally I don't think it makes sense to use only open data

... personally I don't think it makes sense to use only open data ←

13:55:49 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q? ←

13:56:08 <phila> http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/

Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/ ←

13:56:16 <Caroline_> ... we can decide what should be written, so if we decide as a group to write more tha open data we should do taht

... we can decide what should be written, so if we decide as a group to write more tha open data we should do taht ←

13:56:32 <Caroline_> phila: the workshop of the end of the year oculd be helpfull

Phil Archer: the workshop of the end of the year oculd be helpfull ←

13:56:39 <nathalia> ok phila

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: ok phila ←

13:57:13 <Caroline_> ... it is not all necessarly open data

... it is not all necessarly open data ←

13:57:27 <Caroline_> ... there was a lot of commercial use of this

... there was a lot of commercial use of this ←

13:57:46 <Caroline_> ... companies are not willing to shre their data but they use open data to mikx with their data

... companies are not willing to shre their data but they use open data to mikx with their data ←

13:58:11 <Caroline_> ... who might have travel budget the workshop will have many conversations

... who might have travel budget the workshop will have many conversations ←

13:58:51 <phila> The agenda for Lisbon is at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/agenda

Phil Archer: The agenda for Lisbon is at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/agenda ←

13:58:52 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I would lik to consider participating

Eric Kauz: I would lik to consider participating ←

13:59:14 <newton> Zakim, who's talking?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's talking? ←

13:59:15 <phila> s/ericstephan/ericKauz/
13:59:25 <Zakim> newton, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: phila (13%), adler1 (54%), markharrison (5%)

Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: phila (13%), adler1 (54%), markharrison (5%) ←

14:00:25 <Caroline_> Adler1_ we discussed an use case on API

Adler1_ we discussed an use case on API ←

14:00:47 <hadleybeeman> Raspberry Pis for internet of things sensors? And self-publishing APIs? sounds fun, adler1!

Hadley Beeman: Raspberry Pis for internet of things sensors? And self-publishing APIs? sounds fun, adler1! ←

14:01:01 <Caroline_> ... I will set up a call with them

... I will set up a call with them ←

14:01:09 <Caroline_> phila: please invite me for the call

Phil Archer: please invite me for the call ←

14:01:10 <Zakim> -adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1 ←

14:01:21 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye ←

14:01:21 <Caroline_> yaso: let's finish the meeting

Yaso Córdova: let's finish the meeting ←

14:01:25 <Zakim> -EricKauz

Zakim IRC Bot: -EricKauz ←

14:01:27 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco ←

14:01:28 <Caroline_> thank you! bye!

thank you! bye! ←

14:01:33 <RiccardoAlbertoni> thanks, Bye,

Riccardo Albertoni: thanks, Bye, ←

14:01:33 <SumitPurohit> Thanks Everyone.

Sumit Purohit: Thanks Everyone. ←

14:01:34 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←

14:01:34 <markharrison> Bye!  Have a good weekend!

Mark Harrison: Bye! Have a good weekend! ←

14:01:34 <laufer> bye all

Carlos Laufer: bye all ←

14:01:34 <CarlosIglesias> bye!

Carlos Iglesias: bye! ←

14:01:36 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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14:01:36 <Zakim> -newton

Zakim IRC Bot: -newton ←

14:01:38 <Zakim> -phila

Zakim IRC Bot: -phila ←

14:01:39 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←

14:01:40 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias ←

14:01:43 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni

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14:01:44 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit

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14:01:47 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer ←

14:01:48 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

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14:01:48 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.609.947.aabb, SumitPurohit, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, antoine, laufer, ericstephan, adler1, yaso, Caroline_, nathalia, CarlosIglesias,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.609.947.aabb, SumitPurohit, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, antoine, laufer, ericstephan, adler1, yaso, Caroline_, nathalia, CarlosIglesias, ←

14:01:48 <Zakim> ... +44.122.333.aacc, markharrison, MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +44.122.333.aacc, markharrison, MTCarrasco ←



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