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13:27:26 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/24-dwbp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/24-dwbp-irc ←
13:27:27 <PhilA> Guest: Hadley Beeman
13:27:27 <PhilA> Guest: Christian Miranda
13:27:27 <PhilA> Guest: Nathalia Sautchuk
13:27:27 <PhilA> Guest: Augusto (herrmann) Hermann
13:27:27 <PhilA> Guest: Gustavo Suarez
13:27:27 <PhilA> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:54:35 <HadleyBeeman> HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: First meeting for Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group
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Hadley Beeman: HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: First meeting for Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group ←
13:57:57 <HadleyBeeman> HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: First meeting for Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group. Agenda: www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Agenda
Hadley Beeman: HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: First meeting for Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group. Agenda: www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Agenda ←
13:59:56 <PhilA> zakim, this will be dwbp
Phil Archer: zakim, this will be dwbp ←
13:59:56 <Zakim> ok, PhilA, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started ←
14:00:02 <PhilA> zakim, code?
Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←
14:00:02 <Zakim> the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA ←
14:00:20 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:00:27 <Zakim> -??P14
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P14 ←
14:00:35 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
14:00:59 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
14:01:01 <Zakim> +??P17
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17 ←
14:01:07 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.aa] ←
14:01:11 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller.aa is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller.aa is me ←
14:01:12 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
14:01:12 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it ←
14:01:13 <rsingh2> I have conflicting meetings. I'll at least be on chat but may not be able to call in.
Raj Singh: I have conflicting meetings. I'll at least be on chat but may not be able to call in. ←
14:01:24 <Zakim> +??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20 ←
14:01:57 <Zakim> -Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: -Caroline ←
14:01:59 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:01:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.509.371.aaaa, ??P13, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a], ??P15, HadleyBeeman, ??P17, PhilA, ??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.509.371.aaaa, ??P13, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a], ??P15, HadleyBeeman, ??P17, PhilA, ??P20 ←
14:01:59 <carlosiglesias> zakim, +??P17 is me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, +??P17 is me ←
14:02:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2, carlosiglesias, Daniel, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2, carlosiglesias, Daniel, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, ←
14:02:01 <Zakim> ... yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, BernadetteLoscio, Ig_Bittencourt
Zakim IRC Bot: ... yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, BernadetteLoscio, Ig_Bittencourt ←
14:02:01 <Zakim> sorry, carlosiglesias, I do not recognize a party named '+??P17'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, carlosiglesias, I do not recognize a party named '+??P17' ←
14:02:06 <Zakim> + +33.5.56.40.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.5.56.40.aabb ←
14:02:20 <carlosiglesias> zakim, P17 is me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, P17 is me ←
14:02:20 <Zakim> sorry, carlosiglesias, I do not recognize a party named 'P17'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, carlosiglesias, I do not recognize a party named 'P17' ←
14:02:25 <carlosiglesias> zakim, ??P17 is me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P17 is me ←
14:02:26 <Zakim> +carlosiglesias; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +carlosiglesias; got it ←
14:02:38 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P15 is me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P15 is me ←
14:02:38 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it ←
14:03:01 <PhilA> zakim, aabb is ElieSL
Phil Archer: zakim, aabb is ElieSL ←
14:03:01 <Zakim> +ElieSL; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ElieSL; got it ←
14:03:30 <Zakim> +Steve
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve ←
14:03:38 <PhilA> zakim, aaaa is ericstephan
Phil Archer: zakim, aaaa is ericstephan ←
14:03:39 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it ←
14:03:49 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
14:03:52 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:03:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a], MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a], MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline ←
14:03:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2, carlosiglesias, Daniel, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2, carlosiglesias, Daniel, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, ←
14:03:54 <Zakim> ... ericstephan, yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ericstephan, yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, BernadetteLoscio ←
14:04:26 <Daniel> I'm on SKype (Daniel)
Daniel Schwabe: I'm on SKype (Daniel) ←
14:04:29 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller.a is DeirdreLee
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller.a is DeirdreLee ←
14:04:29 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +DeirdreLee; got it ←
14:04:39 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is Daniel
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is Daniel ←
14:04:39 <Zakim> +Daniel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Daniel; got it ←
14:04:43 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:04:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline ←
14:04:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2, ←
14:04:45 <Zakim> ... carlosiglesias, Daniel, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: ... carlosiglesias, Daniel, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan ←
14:04:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:05:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:05:04 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:05:04 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
14:05:29 <Seiji_Isotani> not abble to connect
Seiji Isotani: not abble to connect ←
14:05:45 <HadleyBeeman> selji_isotani, not able to connect on the phone?
Hadley Beeman: selji_isotani, not able to connect on the phone? ←
14:05:45 <adler1> hi phil
Steven Adler: hi phil ←
14:06:02 <Seiji_Isotani> yes Hadley
Seiji Isotani: yes Hadley ←
14:06:40 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is speaking?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:06:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is on the call?
Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:06:52 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P13 (24%), Caroline (34%), antoine (10%)
Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P13 (24%), Caroline (34%), antoine (10%) ←
14:06:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco (muted), HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline, antoine, [IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco (muted), HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline, antoine, [IPcaller.a] ←
14:07:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> It could be me
Joao Almeida: It could be me ←
14:07:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I am calling from skype
Joao Almeida: I am calling from skype ←
14:07:24 <yaso> Yes, Hadley!
Yaso Córdova: Yes, Hadley! ←
14:07:34 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, yaso is with caroline
Hadley Beeman: zakim, yaso is with caroline ←
14:07:35 <Zakim> +yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it ←
14:08:10 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aacc ←
14:08:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:08:50 <yaso> Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari and christianmiranda_ are with us on the same call
Yaso Córdova: Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari and christianmiranda_ are with us on the same call ←
14:08:58 <Caroline_> zakim, mute me
Caroline Burle: zakim, mute me ←
14:08:58 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
14:09:16 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari, christianmiranda_ are with caroline
Hadley Beeman: zakim, Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari, christianmiranda_ are with caroline ←
14:09:16 <Zakim> I don't understand you, HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand you, HadleyBeeman ←
14:09:23 <Seiji_Isotani> Seiji isotani
Seiji Isotani: Seiji isotani ←
14:09:24 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, Vagner_br is with caroline
Hadley Beeman: zakim, Vagner_br is with caroline ←
14:09:24 <Zakim> +Vagner_br; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vagner_br; got it ←
14:09:27 <Caroline_> +551155093537
Caroline Burle: +551155093537 ←
14:09:30 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, nathalia is with caroline
Hadley Beeman: zakim, nathalia is with caroline ←
14:09:30 <Zakim> +nathalia; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia; got it ←
14:09:31 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:09:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco (muted), HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline, antoine, [IPcaller.a],
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco (muted), HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline, antoine, [IPcaller.a], ←
14:09:35 <Zakim> ... rtroncy (muted), [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: ... rtroncy (muted), [IPcaller] ←
14:09:35 <Zakim> Caroline has Caroline, yaso, Vagner_br, nathalia
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Caroline, yaso, Vagner_br, nathalia ←
14:09:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see herrmann, nathalia, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see herrmann, nathalia, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, ←
14:09:35 <Zakim> ... christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2, carlosiglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: ... christianmiranda_, MTCarrasco, John_Goodwin, rsingh2, carlosiglesias ←
14:09:38 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, newtoncalegari is with caroline
Hadley Beeman: zakim, newtoncalegari is with caroline ←
14:09:38 <Zakim> +newtoncalegari; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +newtoncalegari; got it ←
14:09:44 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
14:09:53 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
14:09:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
14:09:57 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:10:11 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, christianmiranda_ is with caroline
Hadley Beeman: zakim, christianmiranda_ is with caroline ←
14:10:11 <Zakim> +christianmiranda_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +christianmiranda_; got it ←
14:10:11 <Seiji_Isotani> My connections is a not good here ... may go down a few times
Seiji Isotani: My connections is a not good here ... may go down a few times ←
14:10:20 <christianmiranda_> :)
Christian Miranda: :) ←
14:10:20 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is speaking
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is speaking ←
14:10:20 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is speaking', HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is speaking', HadleyBeeman ←
14:10:25 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is speaking?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:10:36 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (10%), ??P13 (19%), HadleyBeeman (48%), Caroline (57%)
Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (10%), ??P13 (19%), HadleyBeeman (48%), Caroline (57%) ←
14:10:53 <Caroline_> Hadley, could you speak louder, please?
Caroline Burle: Hadley, could you speak louder, please? ←
14:11:01 <PhilA> zakim, mute Caroline
Phil Archer: zakim, mute Caroline ←
14:11:02 <Zakim> Caroline should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline should now be muted ←
14:11:34 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page ←
14:11:53 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
14:11:58 <PhilA> scribeNick: PhilA
14:12:01 <PhilA> chair: HadleyBeeman
14:12:11 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Opens meeting
Hadley Beeman: Opens meeting ←
14:12:15 <Caroline_> Caroline_ thanks Phila
Caroline Burle: Caroline_ thanks Phila ←
14:12:38 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Says we'll spend most of the meeting getting used to how we do this
Hadley Beeman: Says we'll spend most of the meeting getting used to how we do this ←
14:12:46 <PhilA> ... introduces the queue system
... introduces the queue system ←
14:12:48 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:13:07 <rtroncy> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings
14:13:12 <PhilA> q- HadleyBeeman
q- HadleyBeeman ←
14:13:35 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Invites people to ask her to slow down if she speaks too quickly
Hadley Beeman: Invites people to ask her to slow down if she speaks too quickly ←
14:13:46 <PhilA> ... introduces scribe role
... introduces scribe role ←
14:13:54 <PhilA> ... gives us a written record of the meeting as we talk
... gives us a written record of the meeting as we talk ←
14:14:03 <PhilA> ... then becomes the meeting minutes
... then becomes the meeting minutes ←
14:14:22 <PhilA> ... everyone should feel free to type comments into IRC
... everyone should feel free to type comments into IRC ←
14:14:47 <PhilA> ... you can put in comments by typing /me {comment} and then it won't appear in the meeting minutes
... you can put in comments by typing /me {comment} and then it won't appear in the meeting minutes ←
14:14:59 <PhilA> topic: Who's Who in the Working Group
14:15:30 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Invites people to say your name, your organisation and why you're interested in the WG
Hadley Beeman: Invites people to say your name, your organisation and why you're interested in the WG ←
14:15:56 <PhilA> adler1: So I'll start. I'm Steve Adler anda I'm a co-chair with Hadley and Yaso
Steven Adler: So I'll start. I'm Steve Adler anda I'm a co-chair with Hadley and Yaso ←
14:16:11 <PhilA> ... worked at IBM for many years in Denmark and elsewhere
... worked at IBM for many years in Denmark and elsewhere ←
14:16:30 <PhilA> ... working on open data around the world. I see the need for open standards for compatability, data quality etc.
... working on open data around the world. I see the need for open standards for compatability, data quality etc. ←
14:16:40 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
14:16:42 <PhilA> ... helping different regions around the world
... helping different regions around the world ←
14:17:08 <PhilA> antoine: I work for Europeana and the Vrije University in Amsterdam
Antoine Isaac: I work for Europeana and the Vrije University in Amsterdam ←
14:17:23 <yaso> yes
Yaso Córdova: yes ←
14:17:27 <PhilA> ... same interests as Steve. My interest especially is in cultural heritage
... same interests as Steve. My interest especially is in cultural heritage ←
14:17:37 <PhilA> ack Caroline
ack Caroline ←
14:17:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I can't hear
Joao Almeida: I can't hear ←
14:18:12 <ericstephan> I can't either
Eric Stephan: I can't either ←
14:18:23 <PhilA> yaso: Hi, I'm from Nic.br/W3C Brasil. Interested in fostering open data (and I;m a co-chair of the WG!)
Yaso Córdova: Hi, I'm from Nic.br/W3C Brasil. Interested in fostering open data (and I;m a co-chair of the WG!) ←
14:18:40 <PhilA> zakim, mute Caroline
zakim, mute Caroline ←
14:18:40 <Zakim> Caroline should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline should now be muted ←
14:18:49 <PhilA> Hello BernadetteLoscio?
Hello BernadetteLoscio? ←
14:18:56 <Ig_Bittencourt> q+
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: q+ ←
14:19:04 <HadleyBeeman> ack yaso
Hadley Beeman: ack yaso ←
14:19:14 <yaso> me/ Oh yes! Of course. Thanks, Phil!
Yaso Córdova: me/ Oh yes! Of course. Thanks, Phil! ←
14:19:20 <PhilA> carlosiglesias: Hello. I'm an independent consultant, former W3C office staff
Carlos Iglesias: Hello. I'm an independent consultant, former W3C office staff ←
14:19:30 <PhilA> ... working on lots of Web standards projects
... working on lots of Web standards projects ←
14:19:37 <PhilA> ... especially on open government
... especially on open government ←
14:19:53 <PhilA> ... for last 6 years or so focussed on open data projects and initiatives
... for last 6 years or so focussed on open data projects and initiatives ←
14:20:00 <Ig_Bittencourt> speak afterwards
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: speak afterwards ←
14:20:27 <PhilA> carlosiglesias: This is not just my business it's my way of life. I feel I have to be here
Carlos Iglesias: This is not just my business it's my way of life. I feel I have to be here ←
14:20:42 <PhilA> ack Caroline
ack Caroline ←
14:21:06 <PhilA> Caroline_: I'm here with Yaso and others at Nic.br.
Caroline Burle: I'm here with Yaso and others at Nic.br. ←
14:21:16 <PhilA> zakim, mute Caroline
zakim, mute Caroline ←
14:21:16 <Zakim> Caroline should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline should now be muted ←
14:21:27 <PhilA> zakim, unmute Caroline
zakim, unmute Caroline ←
14:21:27 <Zakim> Caroline should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline should no longer be muted ←
14:21:57 <Daniel> (I may have to speak later, I need to be away for 5 mins)
Daniel Schwabe: (I may have to speak later, I need to be away for 5 mins) ←
14:22:02 <PhilA> christianmiranda__: I work at the Ministry of planning, budget etc. in Brazil. We are responsible for data.gob.br
Christian Miranda: I work at the Ministry of planning, budget etc. in Brazil. We are responsible for data.gob.br ←
14:22:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:22:14 <herrmann> Christian: dados.gov.br
Christian Miranda: dados.gov.br [ Scribe Assist by Augusto Hermann ] ←
14:22:23 <PhilA> ... we're working in a project for open data strategy for data on the Web in Brazil
... we're working in a project for open data strategy for data on the Web in Brazil ←
14:22:39 <PhilA> q+ to introduce the s// command
q+ to introduce the s// command ←
14:22:51 <Caroline_> Bernadette is on the call now
Caroline Burle: Bernadette is on the call now ←
14:23:08 <christianmiranda__> ack
Christian Miranda: ack ←
14:24:01 <PhilA> BernadetteLoscio: [hard to hear detail]
Bernadette Farias Loscio: [hard to hear detail] ←
14:24:12 <Caroline_> Phil, I will help you with the scribing
Caroline Burle: Phil, I will help you with the scribing ←
14:24:44 <Caroline_> Bernadette: I am from the Federal University of Pernambuco, I work mostly with database, open data and linked data
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I am from the Federal University of Pernambuco, I work mostly with database, open data and linked data [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ] ←
14:24:58 <PhilA> ElieSL: hi I'm Elie Sloim, in Bordeaux. We work on website quality
Elie SLOÏM: hi I'm Elie Sloim, in Bordeaux. We work on website quality ←
14:25:10 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:25:12 <PhilA> ... we wrote a checklist for better od quality
... we wrote a checklist for better od quality ←
14:25:16 <PhilA> ack Daniel
ack Daniel ←
14:25:31 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
14:25:40 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
14:25:40 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:26:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.aa] ←
14:26:11 <PhilA> DeirdreLee: Hi, I'm from the Insight team at the University in Galway, formerly DERI
Deirdre Lee: Hi, I'm from the Insight team at the University in Galway, formerly DERI ←
14:26:13 <ericstephan> no sound?
Eric Stephan: no sound? ←
14:26:14 <Daniel> ok I'll introduce myself after Deirdre
Daniel Schwabe: ok I'll introduce myself after Deirdre ←
14:26:22 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, daniel
Hadley Beeman: thanks, daniel ←
14:26:26 <PhilA> ... done lots of work with W3C on standards, eGov, linked data etc.
... done lots of work with W3C on standards, eGov, linked data etc. ←
14:27:13 <PhilA> Daniel: I'm a prof in Rio. Worked in Sem Web for a long time. Using Sem Web, have worked with various agencies at federal and local level, helping them publish their data on the Web
Daniel Schwabe: I'm a prof in Rio. Worked in Sem Web for a long time. Using Sem Web, have worked with various agencies at federal and local level, helping them publish their data on the Web ←
14:27:18 <Vagner_Br> He was also one of the general chairs of the successful WWW2013 in Rio de Janeiro las year
Vagner Diniz: He was also one of the general chairs of the successful WWW2013 in Rio de Janeiro las year ←
14:27:23 <PhilA> ... also collaborating with the W3C office in Brazil
... also collaborating with the W3C office in Brazil ←
14:27:37 <PhilA> Hailing ericstephan
Hailing ericstephan ←
14:27:47 <ericstephan> phone not working
Eric Stephan: phone not working ←
14:27:47 <PhilA> Erik M??
Erik M?? ←
14:27:57 <ericstephan> Eric Stephan, Pacific Northwest National Labs
Eric Stephan: Eric Stephan, Pacific Northwest National Labs ←
14:28:07 <PhilA> what a pain ericstephan
what a pain ericstephan ←
14:28:08 <ericstephan> Interested in linked data for science
Eric Stephan: Interested in linked data for science ←
14:29:21 <ErikMannens> q+
Erik Mannens: q+ ←
14:29:35 <PhilA> ericstephan: I'm interested in the practical application of LD for scientific data
Eric Stephan: I'm interested in the practical application of LD for scientific data ←
14:29:44 <PhilA> ack ErikMannens
ack ErikMannens ←
14:29:50 <HadleyBeeman> unmute erikmannens
Hadley Beeman: unmute erikmannens ←
14:29:53 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
14:29:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline, antoine, rtroncy (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, Caroline, antoine, rtroncy (muted), ←
14:29:56 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a], JoaoPauloAlmeida, [IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a], JoaoPauloAlmeida, [IPcaller.aa] ←
14:29:56 <Zakim> Caroline has Caroline, yaso, Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari, christianmiranda_
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Caroline, yaso, Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari, christianmiranda_ ←
14:29:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see gguizzardi, vkoster, herrmann, christianmiranda__, ErikMannens, nathalia, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gguizzardi, vkoster, herrmann, christianmiranda__, ErikMannens, nathalia, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine, ←
14:29:56 <Zakim> ... newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: ... newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, MTCarrasco ←
14:30:44 <PhilA> gguizzardi: I'm Gianluca - working in Trento and elsewhere. Lots of experience in building conceptual models etc
Giancarlo Guizzardi: I'm Giancarlo - working in Trento and elsewhere. Lots of experience in building conceptual models etc ←
14:30:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> he's Giancarlo
Joao Almeida: he's Giancarlo ←
14:31:08 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/Gianluca/Giancarlo
14:31:10 <christianmiranda__> :)
Christian Miranda: :) ←
14:31:13 <PhilA> s/Gianluca/Giancarlo/
14:31:43 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I wear a bunch of hats. I'm just finishing chairing the Gov Linked data WG
Hadley Beeman: I wear a bunch of hats. I'm just finishing chairing the Gov Linked data WG ←
14:31:49 <PhilA> ... also work for UK Government
... also work for UK Government ←
14:31:51 <gguizzardi> Giancarlo Guizzardi. Professor in the Federal University of Espirito Santo in Brazil and currently also a Visiting Professor in the University of Trento, Italy
Giancarlo Guizzardi: Giancarlo Guizzardi. Professor in the Federal University of Espirito Santo in Brazil and currently also a Visiting Professor in the University of Trento, Italy ←
14:31:54 <PhilA> ... and Mozilla
... and Mozilla ←
14:32:09 <PhilA> ... want to fix some of the problems that have been bugging me
... want to fix some of the problems that have been bugging me ←
14:32:26 <PhilA> herrmann: Hello
Augusto Hermann: Hello ←
14:32:28 <gguizzardi> Most of the academic, technology transfer and outreach work in Ontologies, Conceptual Modeling, Data Semantics and Semantic Interoperability
Giancarlo Guizzardi: Most of the academic, technology transfer and outreach work in Ontologies, Conceptual Modeling, Data Semantics and Semantic Interoperability ←
14:32:57 <Vagner_Br> Augusto Hermann: works for the Ministry of Planning at the Open Data Team
Vagner Diniz: Augusto Hermann: works for the Ministry of Planning at the Open Data Team ←
14:33:07 <PhilA> RRSAgent, make logs public
RRSAgent, make logs public ←
14:33:42 <ErikMannens> I'm from iMinds-MMLab ... I lead a group of 20 SemWeb researchers ... was co-chair of W3C's Media Fragments WG (together with my friend rtroncy :) ... now still active in Provenance and CSV group ... have a big Open Data project in Flanders & are maintainers of two LOD publishing platforms, i.e., TheDataTank and R&Wbase
Erik Mannens: I'm from iMinds-MMLab ... I lead a group of 20 SemWeb researchers ... was co-chair of W3C's Media Fragments WG (together with my friend rtroncy :) ... now still active in Provenance and CSV group ... have a big Open Data project in Flanders & are maintainers of two LOD publishing platforms, i.e., TheDataTank and R&Wbase ←
14:33:59 <PhilA> Ig_Bittencourt: ('eegee' (forgive my Anglo-Saxon ignornace Ig_Bittencourt)
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: ('eegee' (forgive my Anglo-Saxon ignornace Ig_Bittencourt) ←
14:34:08 <herrmann_> PhilA: sorry I lost connection so couldn't see your transcript
Phil Archer: sorry I lost connection so couldn't see your transcript [ Scribe Assist by Augusto Hermann ] ←
14:34:08 <Vagner_Br> Augusto Hermann: I am interested on Onthology topics. At the ministry they are in charge of Open Data group
Vagner Diniz: Augusto Hermann: I am interested on Onthology topics. At the ministry they are in charge of Open Data group ←
14:34:41 <PhilA> JoaoPauloAlmeida: Prof and colleague of Giancarlo. Mostly interested in vocab design and quality, conceptual models etc.
Joao Almeida: Prof and colleague of Giancarlo. Mostly interested in vocab design and quality, conceptual models etc. ←
14:34:58 <PhilA> John_Goodwin: Hi, I work at Ordnance Survey (UK mapping agency)
John Goodwin: Hi, I work at Ordnance Survey (UK mapping agency) ←
14:35:16 <PhilA> ... interests include linked data. Sit on UK Gov open standards data group, UK Gov Linked Data WG
... interests include linked data. Sit on UK Gov open standards data group, UK Gov Linked Data WG ←
14:35:25 <PhilA> ... we have published a lot of data, some linked, some open
... we have published a lot of data, some linked, some open ←
14:35:26 <herrmann_> Vagner_Br: ack
Vagner Diniz: ack [ Scribe Assist by Augusto Hermann ] ←
14:35:35 <PhilA> ... sitting with a geospatial hat on
... sitting with a geospatial hat on ←
14:35:52 <PhilA> ... tie things back to Open Geospatial Consortium too
... tie things back to Open Geospatial Consortium too ←
14:35:58 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco ←
14:36:47 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
14:36:51 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Pretty significant contingent from Brazil...
Hadley Beeman: Pretty significant contingent from Brazil... ←
14:37:01 <PhilA> newtoncalegari: Hi, I;m from nic.br too
Newton Calegari: Hi, I'mg from nic.br too ←
14:37:03 <Caroline_> Nathalia: I work at Brazilian Internet Steering Committtee (CGI.Br)
Nathalia Sautchuk: I work at Brazilian Internet Steering Committtee (CGI.Br) [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ] ←
14:37:10 <PhilA> s/I;m/I'mg
14:37:10 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P15 is me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P15 is me ←
14:37:10 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it ←
14:37:34 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA: I'm the Data Activity lead at W3C, coordinating the working groups in this space.
Phil Archer: I'm the Data Activity lead at W3C, coordinating the working groups in this space. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
14:37:37 <Vagner_Br> Nathalia: works for the Internet Steering Committee in Brazil. I am also interested in open data in general
Nathalia Sautchuk: works for the Internet Steering Committee in Brazil. I am also interested in open data in general [ Scribe Assist by Vagner Diniz ] ←
14:37:53 <HadleyBeeman> … Includes the CSV on the Web working group, the Semantic Web working groups. I'm pleased to see this one get off the ground.
Hadley Beeman: … Includes the CSV on the Web working group, the Semantic Web working groups. I'm pleased to see this one get off the ground. ←
14:38:14 <HadleyBeeman> … It goes back to a workshop we held in London nearly a year ago. Those discussions pointed to the need for this group.
Hadley Beeman: … It goes back to a workshop we held in London nearly a year ago. Those discussions pointed to the need for this group. ←
14:38:29 <Vagner_Br> Newton Calegari: I am work for NIC.br in Brazil. I am also interested in fostering open data.
Vagner Diniz: Newton Calegari: I am work for NIC.br in Brazil. I am also interested in fostering open data. ←
14:38:44 <HadleyBeeman> … In this group, I'm team contact. I keep out of things as much as possible. I support you, the group, and the chairs, to steer you along the W3C recommendations track.
Hadley Beeman: … In this group, I'm team contact. I keep out of things as much as possible. I support you, the group, and the chairs, to steer you along the W3C recommendations track. ←
14:39:04 <HadleyBeeman> … I wrote the charter for this group, based on input from the conference in Rio (among other inputs).
Hadley Beeman: … I wrote the charter for this group, based on input from the conference in Rio (among other inputs). ←
14:39:18 <HadleyBeeman> … It's my job to help you deliver against that charter.
Hadley Beeman: … It's my job to help you deliver against that charter. ←
14:39:51 <MTCarrasco> M.T. Carrasco Benitez - European Commission - multilingual data - http://dragoman.org/dwbp - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Jan/0012.html
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: M.T. Carrasco Benitez - European Commission - multilingual data - http://dragoman.org/dwbp - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Jan/0012.html ←
14:40:05 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: I'm at the European Commission in Luxembourg, my interest is in multilingual aspects
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I'm at the European Commission in Luxembourg, my interest is in multilingual aspects ←
14:40:48 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Explains that RRSAgent is a bot that sits on the channel and helps to record the minutes. (RRS stands for Ralph R Swick, COO of W3C)
Hadley Beeman: Explains that RRSAgent is a bot that sits on the channel and helps to record the minutes. (RRS stands for Ralph R Swick, COO of W3C) ←
14:40:55 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:41:06 <PhilA> calling rtroncy
calling rtroncy ←
14:41:12 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
14:41:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
14:41:15 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:41:25 <Daniel_> My client crashed, I re-logged in, but I don't know how to kill my previous id (Daniel)
Daniel Schwabe: My client crashed, I re-logged in, but I don't know how to kill my previous id (Daniel) ←
14:41:27 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me ←
14:41:27 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted ←
14:41:41 <PhilA> rtroncy: I'm Raphael Troncy from Eurecom
Raphaël Troncy: I'm Raphael Troncy from Eurecom ←
14:41:51 <PhilA> ... a non-profit research institute in SE France.
... a non-profit research institute in SE France. ←
14:42:15 <PhilA> ... I lead a Sem Web research group. Co-Chaired several W3C groups, member of various Community groups
... I lead a Sem Web research group. Co-Chaired several W3C groups, member of various Community groups ←
14:42:33 <PhilA> ... interested in making a better use of data, esp from government
... interested in making a better use of data, esp from government ←
14:42:51 <PhilA> ... involved in DataLift project in France that, among otehr things, created lov.okfn.org
... involved in DataLift project in France that, among other things, created lov.okfn.org ←
14:43:06 <PhilA> call Seiji_Isotani
call Seiji_Isotani ←
14:43:24 <PhilA> Seiji_Isotani: From Uni Sao Paolo
Seiji Isotani: From Uni Sao Paolo ←
14:43:36 <rtroncy> s/otehr things/other things
14:43:48 <PhilA> ... working with ontologies for 10 years. I see this WG has a need to create best pract for structured open data
... working with ontologies for 10 years. I see this WG has a need to create best pract for structured open data ←
14:43:53 <PhilA> ... hope I can help a little buit
... hope I can help a little buit ←
14:44:32 <Daniel_> zakim, mute me
Daniel Schwabe: zakim, mute me ←
14:44:32 <Zakim> sorry, Daniel_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Daniel_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
14:45:28 <Daniel_> I had to reenter the IRC, but I don't know how to tie it to my Skype call
Daniel Schwabe: I had to reenter the IRC, but I don't know how to tie it to my Skype call ←
14:45:31 <Zakim> -Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: -Caroline ←
14:45:45 <yaso> Sorry, we disconnected
Yaso Córdova: Sorry, we disconnected ←
14:45:48 <yaso> Dialing again
Yaso Córdova: Dialing again ←
14:46:04 <yaso> \o/
Yaso Córdova: \o/ ←
14:46:35 <PhilA> vkoster Are you there?
vkoster Are you there? ←
14:46:45 <PhilA> Are you here Raj?
Are you here Raj? ←
14:46:47 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here? ←
14:46:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, antoine, rtroncy (muted), [IPcaller],
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, ??P13, Daniel, DeirdreLee, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, ??P20, ElieSL, Steve, antoine, rtroncy (muted), [IPcaller], ←
14:46:51 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.a], [IPcaller.aa], MTCarrasco (muted), JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.a], [IPcaller.aa], MTCarrasco (muted), JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted) ←
14:46:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see Daniel_, herrmann, christianmiranda, gguizzardi, vkoster, ErikMannens, nathalia, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Daniel_, herrmann, christianmiranda, gguizzardi, vkoster, ErikMannens, nathalia, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, ←
14:46:51 <Zakim> ... antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani
Zakim IRC Bot: ... antoine, newtoncalegari, ElieSL, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani ←
14:47:22 <PhilA> zakim, who is making noise?
zakim, who is making noise? ←
14:47:33 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel (50%), ??P13 (17%), HadleyBeeman (90%), ElieSL (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel (50%), ??P13 (17%), HadleyBeeman (90%), ElieSL (4%) ←
14:47:33 <PhilA> Topic: main Agenda
14:47:37 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
14:47:40 <PhilA> zakim, mute Daniel_
zakim, mute Daniel_ ←
14:47:41 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Daniel_
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PhilA, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Daniel_ ←
14:47:44 <PhilA> zakim, mute Daniel
zakim, mute Daniel ←
14:47:44 <Zakim> Daniel should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Daniel should now be muted ←
14:47:48 <yaso> and... We're back!
Yaso Córdova: and... We're back! ←
14:47:51 <Vagner_Br> Q+
Vagner Diniz: Q+ ←
14:48:14 <rsingh2> Raj is here now
14:48:18 <HadleyBeeman> ack vagner
Hadley Beeman: ack vagner ←
14:49:06 <PhilA> Vagner_Br: I'm Vagner Diniz, I'm head of W3C office in Brazil. One of our main topics is open data. We want to see open data spreading around Brasil. Also connected with OGP
Vagner Diniz: I'm Vagner Diniz, I'm head of W3C office in Brazil. One of our main topics is open data. We want to see open data spreading around Brasil. Also connected with OGP ←
14:49:25 <PhilA> ... also connected to ??? initiative on open data for Latin America
... also connected to IDRC Canadian Agency initiative on Open Data for Latin America and the Caribbean initiative on open data for Latin America ←
14:49:40 <PhilA> ... we help wth the open data for development portal
... we help wth the open data for development portal ←
14:49:54 <PhilA> ... Og4D (og4d.org)
... Og4D (og4d.org) ←
14:50:12 <christianmiranda> also connected to OD4D - http://www.od4d.org/
Christian Miranda: also connected to OD4D - http://www.od4d.org/ ←
14:50:17 <Caroline_> ... also conected to OGP Open Data Working Group
Caroline Burle: ... also conected to OGP Open Data Working Group ←
14:50:28 <PhilA> Vanessa_Tonini: I'm a Web developer at W3C Brasil, here to learn more about open data
Vanessa Me Tonini: I'm a Web developer at W3C Brasil, here to learn more about open data ←
14:50:46 <PhilA> ack Ig_Bittencourt
ack Ig_Bittencourt ←
14:51:02 <HadleyBeeman> ack phila
Hadley Beeman: ack phila ←
14:51:02 <Zakim> PhilA, you wanted to introduce the s// command
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, you wanted to introduce the s// command ←
14:51:03 <Caroline_> s/og4D; m/OD4D (www.od4d.org)
Caroline Burle: s/og4D; m/OD4D (www.od4d.org) (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:51:16 <gsuarez> Hi all, I'm Gustavo Suarez and i'm working for the open data project in Uruguay...
Gustavo Suarez: Hi all, I'm Gustavo Suarez and i'm working for the open data project in Uruguay... ←
14:51:16 <Vagner_Br> s/???/IDRC Canadian Agency initiative on Open Data for Latin America and the Caribbean
14:52:59 <PhilA> Topic: Practicalities
14:53:00 <John_Goodwin> sorry have to go at 3
John Goodwin: sorry have to go at 3 ←
14:53:10 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We're a group trying to work together remotely
Hadley Beeman: We're a group trying to work together remotely ←
14:53:22 <PhilA> ... we have to create a Best practices doc and two vocabularies
... we have to create a Best practices doc and two vocabularies ←
14:53:31 <PhilA> ... we'll come together once a week on the phone
... we'll come together once a week on the phone ←
14:53:40 <HadleyBeeman> Doodle poll to find a time for our weekly meetings: http://doodle.com/dt3xax6tkk8grq83
Hadley Beeman: Doodle poll to find a time for our weekly meetings: http://doodle.com/dt3xax6tkk8grq83 ←
14:53:51 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: we have not yet set the times of those meetings yet
Hadley Beeman: we have not yet set the times of those meetings yet ←
14:53:58 <PhilA> please fill in the Doodle poll
please fill in the Doodle poll ←
14:54:09 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That would help us fix the slot for everyine
Hadley Beeman: That would help us fix the slot for everyine ←
14:54:36 <PhilA> PhilA: Kangchan Lee (Korea) joined today. ericstephan is in Pacific Time
Phil Archer: Kangchan Lee (Korea) joined today. ericstephan is in Pacific Time ←
14:55:00 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: The chairs will send an agenda at least 2 days before each meeting
Hadley Beeman: The chairs will send an agenda at least 2 days before each meeting ←
14:55:01 <MTCarrasco> Anybody from the West USA or Asia?
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Anybody from the West USA or Asia? ←
14:55:13 <PhilA> Yes MTCarrasco - ericstephan is West USA
Yes MTCarrasco - ericstephan is West USA ←
14:55:29 <PhilA> ... Kangchan Lee is in Seoul I believe
... Kangchan Lee is in Seoul I believe ←
14:56:01 <MTCarrasco> So, it has to be late afternoon in Europe - hard for Seoul
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: So, it has to be late afternoon in Europe - hard for Seoul ←
14:56:08 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Talks about face to face meetings. TPAC is when lots of groups get together. This year in Santa Clara late October
Hadley Beeman: Talks about face to face meetings. TPAC is when lots of groups get together. This year in Santa Clara late October ←
14:56:25 <PhilA> PhilA: (note - we're having a party for 25 years of the Web in Santa Clara)
Phil Archer: (note - we're having a party for 25 years of the Web in Santa Clara) ←
14:56:36 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:56:45 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: And we have a f2f meting in London 31 March April
Hadley Beeman: And we have a f2f meting in London 31 March April ←
14:56:51 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
14:56:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
14:56:53 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:57:06 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: F2F meetings are a chance to get together and you get a lot done
Hadley Beeman: F2F meetings are a chance to get together and you get a lot done ←
14:57:15 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Any questions on meetings and f2f meetings
Hadley Beeman: Any questions on meetings and f2f meetings ←
14:57:23 <PhilA> zakim, who is making noise?
zakim, who is making noise? ←
14:57:33 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JoaoPauloAlmeida (9%), [IPcaller.a] (20%)
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JoaoPauloAlmeida (9%), [IPcaller.a] (20%) ←
14:57:35 <ericstephan> It feels like we are part of a musical
Eric Stephan: It feels like we are part of a musical ←
14:57:41 <PhilA> zakim, mute ipcaller.a
zakim, mute ipcaller.a ←
14:57:41 <Zakim> [IPcaller.a] should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller.a] should now be muted ←
14:57:45 <John_Goodwin> sorry have to go now - catch you all next week.
John Goodwin: sorry have to go now - catch you all next week. ←
14:57:59 <christianmiranda> now we're back, sorry
Christian Miranda: now we're back, sorry ←
14:58:08 <John_Goodwin> bye!
John Goodwin: bye! ←
14:58:15 <Zakim> -??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P20 ←
14:58:20 <PhilA> Topic: Procedures
14:58:43 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We try for volunteers for scribing. If no volunteer, zakim will pick a victim
Hadley Beeman: We try for volunteers for scribing. If no volunteer, zakim will pick a victim ←
14:59:17 <PhilA> PhilA: You might want to look at the tracker https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/
Phil Archer: You might want to look at the tracker https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/ ←
14:59:33 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We need one or more editors for each document
Hadley Beeman: We need one or more editors for each document ←
15:00:02 <PhilA> ... the question is who is going to step up and take charge of the deliverable and who will contgribute
... the question is who is going to step up and take charge of the deliverable and who will contgribute ←
15:00:18 <PhilA> ... we have a wiki that we'll use for our agendas, meeting minutes etc. - everything
... we have a wiki that we'll use for our agendas, meeting minutes etc. - everything ←
15:00:42 <PhilA> ... only WG members can edit the wiki but it can be read by the public
... only WG members can edit the wiki but it can be read by the public ←
15:01:17 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We have 2 mailing lists at the moment. The main one is the one from which you will have received info about this meeting
Hadley Beeman: We have 2 mailing lists at the moment. The main one is the one from which you will have received info about this meeting ←
15:01:42 <PhilA> ... the archives are publicly available
... the archives are publicly available ←
15:01:52 <Vinh> hi, I'm trying to join the teleconference. It's asking for the code, can anyone please let me know what the code is?
Vinh Nguyen: hi, I'm trying to join the teleconference. It's asking for the code, can anyone please let me know what the code is? ←
15:02:21 <PhilA> zakim, code?
zakim, code? ←
15:02:21 <Zakim> the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA ←
15:02:31 <PhilA> there you are Vinh :-)
there you are Vinh :-) ←
15:02:37 <Vinh> thanks Phil
Vinh Nguyen: thanks Phil ←
15:02:58 <PhilA> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/ main mailing list
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/ main mailing list ←
15:03:09 <PhilA> (member only-writeable, publicly visible)
(member only-writeable, publicly visible) ←
15:03:40 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter.html
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter.html ←
15:03:44 <Zakim> + +1.937.343.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.343.aadd ←
15:03:48 <PhilA> Topic: charter
15:04:06 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: The charter is the document that sets out what the group is committed to do
Hadley Beeman: The charter is the document that sets out what the group is committed to do ←
15:04:48 <PhilA> adler1: We're supposed to deliver 3 main documents
Steven Adler: We're supposed to deliver 3 main documents ←
15:05:10 <PhilA> ... Best practices - how to address some of the internal challenges that IT departments face. How od might be used, compared, analysed etc.
... Best practices - how to address some of the internal challenges that IT departments face. How od might be used, compared, analysed etc. ←
15:05:29 <PhilA> ... we have another deliverable around a vocab for describing the quality of data on the Web
... we have another deliverable around a vocab for describing the quality of data on the Web ←
15:05:34 <PhilA> ... and one on the use of data
... and one on the use of data ←
15:05:47 <PhilA> ... the two vocabs are more techie
... the two vocabs are more techie ←
15:05:58 <PhilA> ... and the BP guide is about internal practices, policies etc.
... and the BP guide is about internal practices, policies etc. ←
15:06:06 <MTCarrasco> q+
15:06:11 <PhilA> adler1: Those are 3 separate deliverables
Steven Adler: Those are 3 separate deliverables ←
15:06:29 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: And with that comes at least 3 separate editors and possibly 3 separate task forces
Hadley Beeman: And with that comes at least 3 separate editors and possibly 3 separate task forces ←
15:06:45 <PhilA> adler1: Fortunately we have 3 talented co-chairs
Steven Adler: Fortunately we have 3 talented co-chairs ←
15:06:51 <PhilA> zakim, who is making noise?
zakim, who is making noise? ←
15:07:02 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P13 (81%), HadleyBeeman (30%), Steve (9%), Caroline (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P13 (81%), HadleyBeeman (30%), Steve (9%), Caroline (9%) ←
15:07:03 <adler1> I muted
Steven Adler: I muted ←
15:07:13 <Vagner_Br> Q+
Vagner Diniz: Q+ ←
15:07:15 <PhilA> zakim, mute P13
zakim, mute P13 ←
15:07:15 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA, I do not know which phone connection belongs to P13
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PhilA, I do not know which phone connection belongs to P13 ←
15:07:22 <PhilA> zakim, mute ??P13
zakim, mute ??P13 ←
15:07:22 <Zakim> ??P13 should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ??P13 should now be muted ←
15:07:27 <PhilA> ack MTCarrasco
ack MTCarrasco ←
15:07:57 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: How are you going to treat multilingual issues? HTTP is multilingual but linked data is often not
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: How are you going to treat multilingual issues? HTTP is multilingual but linked data is often not ←
15:08:10 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I don't think that has been decided - that's an issue we can take up
Hadley Beeman: I don't think that has been decided - that's an issue we can take up ←
15:08:14 <PhilA> ... and decide
... and decide ←
15:08:35 <PhilA> adler1: I think multilingual is an important consideration
Steven Adler: I think multilingual is an important consideration ←
15:08:53 <PhilA> ... what forms should vocabs take, how should we do that? How has it been done before?
... what forms should vocabs take, how should we do that? How has it been done before? ←
15:09:14 <MTCarrasco> It must be variant such as the formats
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: It must be variant such as the formats ←
15:09:26 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: The same way we've done other things. If there is enthusiasm in the WG, and it heps fulfil the charter then it's in scope
Hadley Beeman: The same way we've done other things. If there is enthusiasm in the WG, and it heps fulfil the charter then it's in scope ←
15:09:59 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: It you look at the HTTP the language is one of several dimensions.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: It you look at the HTTP the language is one of several dimensions. ←
15:10:09 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Looks interesting - please keep on that tract in this WG
Hadley Beeman: Looks interesting - please keep on that tract in this WG ←
15:10:32 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
15:10:37 <PhilA> ack Vagner_Br
ack Vagner_Br ←
15:10:57 <HadleyBeeman> q+ antoine
Hadley Beeman: q+ antoine ←
15:11:08 <MTCarrasco> Dimensions of negotiation http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2295#section-4.7
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Dimensions of negotiation http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2295#section-4.7 ←
15:11:14 <PhilA> Vagner_Br: On multilimgual - that would be very nice if this group addressed that issue
Vagner Diniz: On multilimgual - that would be very nice if this group addressed that issue ←
15:11:16 <PhilA> q+
q+ ←
15:11:29 <PhilA> Vagner_Br: maybe we should add it to the charter?
Vagner Diniz: maybe we should add it to the charter? ←
15:11:43 <PhilA> ... if we have the expertise in the WG then good. we need to find the people who are interested
... if we have the expertise in the WG then good. we need to find the people who are interested ←
15:11:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me ←
15:11:52 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted ←
15:12:02 <PhilA> .... but my question about the charter... one of gthe missions of the WG is to develop the open data ecosystem
.... but my question about the charter... one of gthe missions of the WG is to develop the open data ecosystem ←
15:12:17 <MTCarrasco> Big Multilingual Linked Data (BigMu) http://dragoman.org/mw7/bigmu.txt
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Big Multilingual Linked Data (BigMu) http://dragoman.org/mw7/bigmu.txt ←
15:12:18 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
15:12:19 <PhilA> ... I could not see in the deliverables where this topic is covered
... I could not see in the deliverables where this topic is covered ←
15:12:32 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
15:12:32 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I'm happy to talk about that
Hadley Beeman: I'm happy to talk about that ←
15:12:36 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
15:12:36 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
15:12:38 <PhilA> q-
q- ←
15:13:22 <Vinh> zakim, +1.937.343.aadd is me
Vinh Nguyen: zakim, +1.937.343.aadd is me ←
15:13:22 <Zakim> +Vinh; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vinh; got it ←
15:14:51 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: To your point about the ecosystem...
Hadley Beeman: To your point about the ecosystem... ←
15:15:08 <PhilA> ... the deliverables we have came out of the holes in the ecosystem
... the deliverables we have came out of the holes in the ecosystem ←
15:15:32 <PhilA> ... the items in the BPs for example, those things without which the ecosystem doesn't function well.
... the items in the BPs for example, those things without which the ecosystem doesn't function well. ←
15:15:46 <PhilA> ... for e.g. when we have understandable and persistent URs, that helps
... for e.g. when we have understandable and persistent URs, that helps ←
15:15:48 <MTCarrasco> One should not make language an special case: apply existing standards; back to basics http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: One should not make language an special case: apply existing standards; back to basics http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html ←
15:16:32 <herrmann> q+
Augusto Hermann: q+ ←
15:16:46 <PhilA> ... likewise the vocabs came out of discussions with others. So the granularity and quality vocab came from developers who say they won't use data if they don't know it will be there this time next week
... likewise the vocabs came out of discussions with others. So the granularity and quality vocab came from developers who say they won't use data if they don't know it will be there this time next week ←
15:16:58 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
15:17:15 <PhilA> ... and it helps people state that a dataset is not accurate - so don't assume it is
... and it helps people state that a dataset is not accurate - so don't assume it is ←
15:17:36 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Describes need for usage vocab
Hadley Beeman: Describes need for usage vocab ←
15:18:03 <PhilA> ... creates a relationship between the publisher and developer
... creates a relationship between the publisher and developer ←
15:18:20 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
15:18:28 <PhilA> Vagner_Br: That helps for a beginning. Let's see what happens later. my vision of the ecosystem is much broader
Vagner Diniz: That helps for a beginning. Let's see what happens later. my vision of the ecosystem is much broader ←
15:18:46 <PhilA> ... how can we address the many disciplines and actors who may not usually be involved
... how can we address the many disciplines and actors who may not usually be involved ←
15:18:50 <Daniel> will we need to have actual data published following what we recommend, as an example?
Daniel Schwabe: will we need to have actual data published following what we recommend, as an example? ←
15:19:09 <PhilA> yes Daniel - you are correct
yes Daniel - you are correct ←
15:19:33 <PhilA> ack herrmann
ack herrmann ←
15:20:12 <PhilA> herrmann: If I look at the deliverables. The BP doc says it should be technologically agnostic - so not only linked data. Also JSON, others etc.
Augusto Hermann: If I look at the deliverables. The BP doc says it should be technologically agnostic - so not only linked data. Also JSON, others etc. ←
15:20:16 <Zakim> -ElieSL
Zakim IRC Bot: -ElieSL ←
15:20:20 <Daniel> Phil, shouldn't this become then an action item? Several participants are directly involved in publishing actual data, many from governments
Daniel Schwabe: Phil, shouldn't this become then an action item? Several participants are directly involved in publishing actual data, many from governments ←
15:21:12 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is on the queue?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the queue? ←
15:21:12 <Zakim> I see antoine, ericstephan, yaso on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see antoine, ericstephan, yaso on the speaker queue ←
15:21:19 <MTCarrasco> Yes Daniel: theory should come the empirical processing and publishing of large multilingual corpora such as Official Journal of the European Union (OJ)
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Yes Daniel: theory should come the empirical processing and publishing of large multilingual corpora such as Official Journal of the European Union (OJ) ←
15:21:39 <christianmiranda> herrmann: so i think it would be a god idea to add a point specific about HATEOAS
Augusto Hermann: so i think it would be a god idea to add a point specific about HATEOAS [ Scribe Assist by Christian Miranda ] ←
15:21:49 <MTCarrasco> 24 languages - terabytes
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: 24 languages - terabytes ←
15:21:50 <christianmiranda> good*
Christian Miranda: good* ←
15:22:21 <PhilA> herrmann: Talking about hypermedia ?? language?
Augusto Hermann: Talking about hypermedia ?? language? ←
15:22:28 <christianmiranda> HAL - Hypertext application Language
Christian Miranda: HAL - Hypertext application Language ←
15:22:31 <PhilA> ... could we invite those authors to tell us about that?
... could we invite those authors to tell us about that? ←
15:22:45 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Can you post a link please herrmann
Hadley Beeman: Can you post a link please herrmann ←
15:22:49 <PhilA> ack antoine
ack antoine ←
15:23:04 <PhilA> antoine: I wanted to ask how we should interpret this line in the charter
Antoine Isaac: I wanted to ask how we should interpret this line in the charter ←
15:23:13 <DeirdreLee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
15:23:16 <christianmiranda> yes Caroline_ sorry about that
Christian Miranda: yes Caroline_ sorry about that ←
15:23:18 <DeirdreLee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
15:23:29 <PhilA> antoine: What Augsut said actually went against that as he was talking about specific technologies
Antoine Isaac: What August said actually went against that as he was talking about specific technologies ←
15:23:38 <PhilA> s/Augsut/August/
15:24:01 <Daniel> s/August/Augusto
15:24:10 <herrmann> on the Open Data best practice guide we should consider adding HATEOAS (hypermedia as the engine of applicaiton state) and linking between resources (even if not RDF). There's work on a specification about adding links to xml and json in Hypermedia Application Langauge - http://stateless.co/hal_specification.html
Augusto Hermann: on the Open Data best practice guide we should consider adding HATEOAS (hypermedia as the engine of applicaiton state) and linking between resources (even if not RDF). There's work on a specification about adding links to xml and json in Hypermedia Application Langauge - http://stateless.co/hal_specification.html ←
15:24:28 <PhilA> antoine: It seems important to have a vocab about data usage, but I wonder what sort of protocol could be used to commiunicate back to the publisher. Which again speaks against the 'tech agnostic' aspect
Antoine Isaac: It seems important to have a vocab about data usage, but I wonder what sort of protocol could be used to commiunicate back to the publisher. Which again speaks against the 'tech agnostic' aspect ←
15:24:29 <MTCarrasco> I volunteer as editor for the general aspects of the URIs and variants. And the particular application to languages and formats.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I volunteer as editor for the general aspects of the URIs and variants. And the particular application to languages and formats. ←
15:24:46 <gguizzardi> I wonder if the group sees metadata as data as well...my question is related to if the quality and usage models the group is supposed to produce could also be used to describe metadata about metadata models (e.g., vocabularies)
Giancarlo Guizzardi: I wonder if the group sees metadata as data as well...my question is related to if the quality and usage models the group is supposed to produce could also be used to describe metadata about metadata models (e.g., vocabularies) ←
15:24:48 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: My understanding of that is that it's trying to not ties us to RDF/LD/CSV
Hadley Beeman: My understanding of that is that it's trying to not ties us to RDF/LD/CSV ←
15:24:55 <MTCarrasco> q+
15:24:58 <PhilA> PhilA: As author of that line I confirm that is what I meant
Phil Archer: As author of that line I confirm that is what I meant ←
15:25:41 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA: The Government Linked Data is wrapping things up now. It specifically government data, and specifically linked data. This working group removes those two restrictions.
Phil Archer: The Government Linked Data is wrapping things up now. It specifically government data, and specifically linked data. This working group removes those two restrictions. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:25:59 <HadleyBeeman> … Those vocabularies will be RDF vocabularies. But the membership didn't want this group to be just tied to linked data.
Hadley Beeman: … Those vocabularies will be RDF vocabularies. But the membership didn't want this group to be just tied to linked data. ←
15:26:18 <HadleyBeeman> … It doesn't mean you can't talk about specific technologies; it means you can talk about more than one.
Hadley Beeman: … It doesn't mean you can't talk about specific technologies; it means you can talk about more than one. ←
15:26:30 <MTCarrasco> One cannot be agnostic about the basic web technologies such as URIs
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: One cannot be agnostic about the basic web technologies such as URIs ←
15:26:37 <HadleyBeeman> … As the W3C we do think in terms of hyperlinks, URIs, the Web. It is data on the Web.
Hadley Beeman: … As the W3C we do think in terms of hyperlinks, URIs, the Web. It is data on the Web. ←
15:27:13 <MTCarrasco> One can be agnostics about data formats http://dragoman.org/format
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: One can be agnostics about data formats http://dragoman.org/format ←
15:27:22 <HadleyBeeman> adler1: I think this a positive development for W3C. Open data is an already existing movement; there are different catalogs and repositories in use.
Steven Adler: I think this a positive development for W3C. Open data is an already existing movement; there are different catalogs and repositories in use. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:27:47 <PhilA> adler1: This is a positive move by W3C I think. People are using lots of different tech, not just LD. There are evolutionary by-products
Steven Adler: This is a positive move by W3C I think. People are using lots of different tech, not just LD. There are evolutionary by-products ←
15:27:55 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
15:28:08 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
15:28:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
15:28:10 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
15:28:21 <MTCarrasco> web != XML - Linked Data != XML
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: web != XML - Linked Data != XML ←
15:28:29 <antoine> Antoine: am satisfied with PhilA's answer.
Antoine Isaac: am satisfied with PhilA's answer. [ Scribe Assist by Antoine Isaac ] ←
15:28:34 <HadleyBeeman> philA: This is part of merging the eGov activity and the Sem Web activity into the Data activity.
Phil Archer: This is part of merging the eGov activity and the Sem Web activity into the Data activity. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:28:53 <HadleyBeeman> … In parallel with this working group, we have the CSV on the Web working group reinforcing this message.
Hadley Beeman: … In parallel with this working group, we have the CSV on the Web working group reinforcing this message. ←
15:28:59 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
15:29:10 <herrmann> btw, the HAL specification has a mailing list as well - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/hal-discuss
Augusto Hermann: btw, the HAL specification has a mailing list as well - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/hal-discuss ←
15:29:25 <PhilA> adler1: Stuff that can be expressed in RDF - we should find ways to express in other tech
Steven Adler: Stuff that can be expressed in RDF - we should find ways to express in other tech ←
15:29:26 <HadleyBeeman> ack eric
Hadley Beeman: ack eric ←
15:29:47 <MTCarrasco> The results must be valid for open and closed (inhouse) usage
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The results must be valid for open and closed (inhouse) usage ←
15:30:07 <Daniel> Zakim, who is muted
Daniel Schwabe: Zakim, who is muted ←
15:30:07 <Zakim> Daniel, you need to end that query with '?'
Zakim IRC Bot: Daniel, you need to end that query with '?' ←
15:30:08 <PhilA> ericstephan: How about outreach to other groups. I think we should think about how we can reach other groups. I was in a forum called Ontolog this week and another under the US NSF
Eric Stephan: How about outreach to other groups. I think we should think about how we can reach other groups. I was in a forum called Ontolog this week and another under the US NSF ←
15:30:17 <PhilA> ... they were aware of and asking questions about the Data Activity
... they were aware of and asking questions about the Data Activity ←
15:30:23 <Daniel> Zakim, who is muted?
Daniel Schwabe: Zakim, who is muted? ←
15:30:23 <Zakim> I see ??P13, Daniel, rtroncy, [IPcaller.a] muted
Zakim IRC Bot: I see ??P13, Daniel, rtroncy, [IPcaller.a] muted ←
15:30:45 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
15:30:53 <martin> zakim, ??p9 is me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p9 is me ←
15:30:53 <Zakim> +martin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martin; got it ←
15:31:08 <Daniel> Zakim, unmute Daniel
Daniel Schwabe: Zakim, unmute Daniel ←
15:31:08 <Zakim> Daniel should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Daniel should no longer be muted ←
15:31:14 <MTCarrasco> Linked Data for Language Technology Community Group - http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Linked Data for Language Technology Community Group - http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt ←
15:31:34 <MTCarrasco> Best Practices for Multilingual Linked Open Data Community Group http://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Best Practices for Multilingual Linked Open Data Community Group http://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod ←
15:31:57 <MTCarrasco> These groups should be informed of this group
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: These groups should be informed of this group ←
15:32:16 <adler1> Steve is still in riga
Steven Adler: Steve is still in riga ←
15:33:00 <Daniel> Zakim, q+ me
Daniel Schwabe: Zakim, q+ me ←
15:33:00 <Zakim> I see yaso, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco, Daniel on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see yaso, DeirdreLee, MTCarrasco, Daniel on the speaker queue ←
15:34:16 <Daniel> Looks like we need to use the Provenance work
Daniel Schwabe: Looks like we need to use the Provenance work ←
15:34:23 <DeirdreLee> Another related group is OGP Open Data Working Group http://www.opengovpartnership.org/get-involved/london-summit-2013/agenda/session/open-data-working-group
Deirdre Lee: Another related group is OGP Open Data Working Group http://www.opengovpartnership.org/get-involved/london-summit-2013/agenda/session/open-data-working-group ←
15:34:29 <DeirdreLee> q-
Deirdre Lee: q- ←
15:35:29 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Our task is to build something, we need to do some writing and that needs review and input from the outside world
Hadley Beeman: Our task is to build something, we need to do some writing and that needs review and input from the outside world ←
15:35:43 <PhilA> ... reaching out to people to review our stuff and feed in is really important
... reaching out to people to review our stuff and feed in is really important ←
15:36:17 <PhilA> adler1: I'll certainly do what I can to promote our work because we want our standards to have traction
Steven Adler: I'll certainly do what I can to promote our work because we want our standards to have traction ←
15:36:27 <PhilA> ... having external groups that wants those standards is important
... having external groups that wants those standards is important ←
15:36:41 <PhilA> ... we have to look up and see that what we're creating is useful
... we have to look up and see that what we're creating is useful ←
15:37:15 <PhilA> adler1: If you have relations with places like cities, share their experiences with us - it's a requirements gathering process
Steven Adler: If you have relations with places like cities, share their experiences with us - it's a requirements gathering process ←
15:37:21 <PhilA> ack yaso
ack yaso ←
15:37:41 <PhilA> yaso: I just want to complete what you're saying. We should list some use cases
Yaso Córdova: I just want to complete what you're saying. We should list some use cases ←
15:37:58 <PhilA> ... this will be part of working out what the ecosystyem is that we're trying to support
... this will be part of working out what the ecosystyem is that we're trying to support ←
15:38:05 <PhilA> ack MTCarrasco
ack MTCarrasco ←
15:38:11 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I am sorry I have to leave
Joao Almeida: I am sorry I have to leave ←
15:38:20 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: One cannot be agnostic about basic Web technologies
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: One cannot be agnostic about basic Web technologies ←
15:38:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> HadleyBeeman, thanks
Joao Almeida: HadleyBeeman, thanks ←
15:38:55 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: XML has been over-used in some cases. Some people equate RDF with XML for example
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: XML has been over-used in some cases. Some people equate RDF with XML for example ←
15:38:58 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
15:39:25 <yaso> (more about zakim here http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html)
Yaso Córdova: (more about zakim here http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html) ←
15:39:46 <PhilA> ... we need to try and avoid overlap. We should use basic Web techs
... we need to try and avoid overlap. We should use basic Web techs ←
15:39:52 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
15:40:03 <PhilA> ack Daniel
ack Daniel ←
15:40:38 <PhilA> Daniel: How are we going to handle non-standardised technologies?
Daniel Schwabe: How are we going to handle non-standardised technologies? ←
15:41:02 <PhilA> ... there are other non-W3C ways to represent that might or might not be standards
... there are other non-W3C ways to represent that might or might not be standards ←
15:41:20 <PhilA> ... are we going to try and accommodate those non-standardised tech?
... are we going to try and accommodate those non-standardised tech? ←
15:41:46 <PhilA> Daniel: Augusto pointed to HAL
Daniel Schwabe: Augusto pointed to HAL ←
15:42:28 <PhilA> ... that's a proposal that may use some standards but it may propose other ways. What are we going to say "you should follow this technique" which is not standardised but use RDF?
... that's a proposal that may use some standards but it may propose other ways. What are we going to say "you should follow this technique" which is not standardised but use RDF? ←
15:42:33 <ericstephan> we use the expression "convention" rather than standard in climate science.
Eric Stephan: we use the expression "convention" rather than standard in climate science. ←
15:42:47 <herrmann> MTCarrasco, i see RDF 1.1 solves this problem by standardizing many other non-XML serializations for RDF
Augusto Hermann: MTCarrasco, i see RDF 1.1 solves this problem by standardizing many other non-XML serializations for RDF ←
15:44:29 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA: We can point to a standard that is stable and recognised, whether it's one of ours or not.
Phil Archer: We can point to a standard that is stable and recognised, whether it's one of ours or not. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:45:05 <gguizzardi> I am sorry but I will have to leave
Giancarlo Guizzardi: I am sorry but I will have to leave ←
15:45:22 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.aa] ←
15:45:48 <gguizzardi> thanks. see u next time
Giancarlo Guizzardi: thanks. see u next time ←
15:45:53 <PhilA> Daniel: I understand that we may have some concrete examples
Daniel Schwabe: I understand that we may have some concrete examples ←
15:45:54 <PhilA> PhilA: yes
Phil Archer: yes ←
15:46:04 <herrmann> Daniel, I think the HAL proposal isn't to the exclusion of publishing RDF as well. It's just a defined way to link XML and JSON resources.
Augusto Hermann: Daniel, I think the HAL proposal isn't to the exclusion of publishing RDF as well. It's just a defined way to link XML and JSON resources. ←
15:48:00 <MTCarrasco> 1) one cannot be agnostic about basic web technologies (URI) 2) one can be agnostic about data formats (XML) 3) language must be consider within the core web technologies (URI variants) 4) inform specialised groups 5) standards must be valid for open and closed usage
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: 1) one cannot be agnostic about basic web technologies (URI) 2) one can be agnostic about data formats (XML) 3) language must be consider within the core web technologies (URI variants) 4) inform specialised groups 5) standards must be valid for open and closed usage ←
15:48:44 <ericstephan> Its only for the love of LD that I'm agreeing to 4am PST time slots in the doodle poll
Eric Stephan: Its only for the love of LD that I'm agreeing to 4am PST time slots in the doodle poll ←
15:48:48 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Reminds people please to fill in the Doodle poll for future timign of calls (which will be 1 hour)
Hadley Beeman: Reminds people please to fill in the Doodle poll for future timign of calls (which will be 1 hour) ←
15:48:58 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
15:49:03 <Daniel> Augusto, it was just an example that came to mind, sorry if it wasn't quite appropriate
Daniel Schwabe: Augusto, it was just an example that came to mind, sorry if it wasn't quite appropriate ←
15:49:18 <PhilA> Daniel: Yep, I'm happy that we'll explain why something is a best practice irrespective of the tech used
Daniel Schwabe: Yep, I'm happy that we'll explain why something is a best practice irrespective of the tech used ←
15:49:50 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Summarises what we've discussed so far
Hadley Beeman: Summarises what we've discussed so far ←
15:50:01 <PhilA> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
15:50:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/24-dwbp-minutes.html PhilA
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/24-dwbp-minutes.html PhilA ←
15:50:12 <herrmann> thanks for the meeting, see you next wek
Augusto Hermann: thanks for the meeting, see you next wek ←
15:51:05 <MTCarrasco> URI examples http://dragoman.org/bigmu/uri.txt
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: URI examples http://dragoman.org/bigmu/uri.txt ←
15:51:09 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Asks for any questions?
Hadley Beeman: Asks for any questions? ←
15:51:19 <PhilA> zakim, who is making noise?
zakim, who is making noise? ←
15:51:30 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel (48%), HadleyBeeman (50%)
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel (48%), HadleyBeeman (50%) ←
15:51:51 <Daniel> sorry
Daniel Schwabe: sorry ←
15:52:02 <Daniel> Zakim, mute me
Daniel Schwabe: Zakim, mute me ←
15:52:02 <Zakim> Daniel should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Daniel should now be muted ←
15:52:03 <MTCarrasco> q+
15:52:16 <PhilA> ack MTCarrasco
ack MTCarrasco ←
15:52:23 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: Is it possible to be a partial editor?
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Is it possible to be a partial editor? ←
15:52:26 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
15:52:31 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Yes, if we can find a co-editor
Hadley Beeman: Yes, if we can find a co-editor ←
15:52:42 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: I'm ready to be a co-editor, not a sole editor
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I'm ready to be a co-editor, not a sole editor ←
15:53:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We can split documents into multiple documents
Hadley Beeman: We can split documents into multiple documents ←
15:53:43 <PhilA> q?
q? ←
15:53:52 <PhilA> ack antoine
ack antoine ←
15:54:14 <PhilA> antoine: I could be interested depending on what is in the doc of course. The scope is still a bit wide
Antoine Isaac: I could be interested depending on what is in the doc of course. The scope is still a bit wide ←
15:54:42 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
15:54:47 <PhilA> ... the scope may remain wide, which means having co-editors is a good idea as each co-editor can take care of the bit that interests them
... the scope may remain wide, which means having co-editors is a good idea as each co-editor can take care of the bit that interests them ←
15:55:13 <PhilA> antoine: Perhaps data usage vocab
Antoine Isaac: Perhaps data usage vocab ←
15:55:33 <PhilA> antoine: I was involved in SKOS for a long time, cultural heritage etc.
Antoine Isaac: I was involved in SKOS for a long time, cultural heritage etc. ←
15:55:36 <MTCarrasco> chop into smaller documents - editor volunteer for the document dialing with URIs, variants and applications to multilingual aspects
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: chop into smaller documents - editor volunteer for the document dialing with URIs, variants and applications to multilingual aspects ←
15:55:37 <PhilA> ack DeirdreLee
ack DeirdreLee ←
15:55:58 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
15:56:05 <PhilA> DeirdreLee: I'd be interested in being an editor... maybe around the BPs, core vocs etc.
Deirdre Lee: I'd be interested in being an editor... maybe around the BPs, core vocs etc. ←
15:56:23 <PhilA> ... or maybe the idea of an ecosystem, cross-domain aspects
... or maybe the idea of an ecosystem, cross-domain aspects ←
15:56:49 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Would it be something that tied in all the pieces of the charter?
Hadley Beeman: Would it be something that tied in all the pieces of the charter? ←
15:58:02 <PhilA> See http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp-scope/
See http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp-scope/ ←
15:58:47 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA: The Mobile Web Best Practices Working group began with an equally wide-open charter. So that group wrote down what it was/wasn't going to cover. Helped focus the group.
Phil Archer: The Mobile Web Best Practices Working group began with an equally wide-open charter. So that group wrote down what it was/wasn't going to cover. Helped focus the group. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:59:06 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
15:59:09 <PhilA> DeirdreLee: I'll take a look
Deirdre Lee: I'll take a look ←
15:59:13 <HadleyBeeman> ack eric
Hadley Beeman: ack eric ←
15:59:37 <PhilA> ericstephan: I wanted to voice my support - maybe a co-ed on one or other vocabulary. Both relevant to work we're doing
Eric Stephan: I wanted to voice my support - maybe a co-ed on one or other vocabulary. Both relevant to work we're doing ←
15:59:56 <PhilA> ericstephan: Slight pref for granularity and quality
Eric Stephan: Slight pref for granularity and quality ←
16:00:27 <Caroline_> I can help DeirdreLee with the edition on BPs, ecossystem
Caroline Burle: I can help DeirdreLee with the edition on BPs, ecossystem ←
16:00:40 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: And a contributor on the other one
Hadley Beeman: And a contributor on the other one ←
16:00:53 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: And Caroline_ is volunteering to work with DeirdreLee
Hadley Beeman: And Caroline_ is volunteering to work with DeirdreLee ←
16:01:07 <PhilA> Caroline_: I can help with editing that and I'll certainly contribute
Caroline Burle: I can help with editing that and I'll certainly contribute ←
16:01:20 <PhilA> q?
q? ←
16:01:26 <PhilA> ack BernadetteLoscio
ack BernadetteLoscio ←
16:01:31 <ericstephan> I have to drop off now. Thank you all and it was nice meeting you.
Eric Stephan: I have to drop off now. Thank you all and it was nice meeting you. ←
16:01:37 <PhilA> are you muted BernadetteLoscio?
are you muted BernadetteLoscio? ←
16:01:51 <Zakim> -ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←
16:02:04 <BernadetteLoscio> yes
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes ←
16:02:07 <BernadetteLoscio> i can hear you
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i can hear you ←
16:02:20 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
16:02:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P13 (muted), Daniel (muted), DeirdreLee, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, Steve, antoine, rtroncy (muted), [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a] (muted), MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P13 (muted), Daniel (muted), DeirdreLee, HadleyBeeman, carlosiglesias, PhilA, Steve, antoine, rtroncy (muted), [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a] (muted), MTCarrasco ←
16:02:24 <Zakim> ... (muted), Caroline, Vinh, martin
Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), Caroline, Vinh, martin ←
16:02:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see martin, Vinh, Daniel, ErikMannens, nathalia, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine, newtoncalegari, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see martin, Vinh, Daniel, ErikMannens, nathalia, adler1, rtroncy, Vanessa_Tonini, Vagner_Br, gsuarez, antoine, newtoncalegari, DeirdreLee, Seiji_Isotani, ←
16:02:24 <Zakim> ... MTCarrasco, carlosiglesias, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: ... MTCarrasco, carlosiglesias, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, yaso ←
16:02:41 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Wold anyone particularly like to contribute/work on?
Hadley Beeman: Wold anyone particularly like to contribute/work on? ←
16:02:53 <BernadetteLoscio> im sorry
Bernadette Farias Loscio: im sorry ←
16:03:02 <BernadetteLoscio> you cant hear me
Bernadette Farias Loscio: you cant hear me ←
16:03:03 <Daniel> Folks, I have to leave now.
Daniel Schwabe: Folks, I have to leave now. ←
16:03:05 <PhilA> adler1: I'd def like to work on the BP doc
Steven Adler: I'd def like to work on the BP doc ←
16:03:08 <BernadetteLoscio> im gonna write
Bernadette Farias Loscio: im gonna write ←
16:03:17 <Daniel> quit
Daniel Schwabe: quit ←
16:03:23 <Zakim> -Steve
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steve ←
16:03:27 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Particular topics in BP?
Hadley Beeman: Particular topics in BP? ←
16:03:38 <Zakim> -Daniel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Daniel ←
16:03:42 <adler1> lost signal
Steven Adler: lost signal ←
16:03:45 <BernadetteLoscio> i'm interested with Quality and Granularity Description Vocabulary.. I have experience with Information Quality
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i'm interested with Quality and Granularity Description Vocabulary.. I have experience with Information Quality ←
16:03:56 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Wraps up the meeting
Hadley Beeman: Wraps up the meeting ←
16:04:01 <PhilA> ... reminds people of Doodle
... reminds people of Doodle ←
16:04:18 <PhilA> zakim, unmute ipcaller.a
zakim, unmute ipcaller.a ←
16:04:18 <Zakim> [IPcaller.a] should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller.a] should no longer be muted ←
16:04:20 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
16:04:27 <HadleyBeeman> http://doodle.com/dt3xax6tkk8grq83
Hadley Beeman: http://doodle.com/dt3xax6tkk8grq83 ←
16:04:38 <yaso> tks Hadley!
Yaso Córdova: tks Hadley! ←
16:04:43 <Zakim> -rtroncy
Zakim IRC Bot: -rtroncy ←
16:04:44 <Ig_Bittencourt> Thanks
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Thanks ←
16:04:44 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!!!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks!!! ←
16:04:44 <Zakim> -martin
Zakim IRC Bot: -martin ←
16:04:47 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee
Zakim IRC Bot: -DeirdreLee ←
16:04:48 <rtroncy> Bye all, thanks !
Raphaël Troncy: Bye all, thanks ! ←
16:04:48 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
16:04:49 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco ←
16:04:51 <Zakim> -carlosiglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: -carlosiglesias ←
16:04:53 <MTCarrasco> Bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Bye ←
16:04:56 <Seiji_Isotani> bye
Seiji Isotani: bye ←
16:04:58 <Zakim> -Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vinh ←
16:05:03 <nathalia> bye
Nathalia Sautchuk: bye ←
16:05:04 <Zakim> -PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA ←
16:05:06 <Zakim> -??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P13 ←
16:05:06 <yaso> bye!
Yaso Córdova: bye! ←
16:05:12 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
16:05:33 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
16:05:37 <Zakim> -Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: -Caroline ←
16:05:38 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended ←
16:05:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Caroline, +1.509.371.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +33.5.56.40.aabb, carlosiglesias, MTCarrasco, ElieSL, Steve, ericstephan, DeirdreLee, Daniel, antoine, yaso,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Caroline, +1.509.371.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +33.5.56.40.aabb, carlosiglesias, MTCarrasco, ElieSL, Steve, ericstephan, DeirdreLee, Daniel, antoine, yaso, ←
16:05:38 <Zakim> ... +33.4.93.00.aacc, rtroncy, [IPcaller], Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari, JoaoPauloAlmeida, christianmiranda_, Vinh, martin
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +33.4.93.00.aacc, rtroncy, [IPcaller], Vagner_br, nathalia, newtoncalegari, JoaoPauloAlmeida, christianmiranda_, Vinh, martin ←
16:06:10 <PhilA> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
16:06:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/24-dwbp-minutes.html PhilA
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