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14:05:05 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-dpub-irc
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14:05:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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14:05:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be dpub
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14:05:09 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 55 minutes
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14:05:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:05:10 <trackbot> Date: 15 September 2014
14:05:20 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
14:05:50 <ivan> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E028503E8F0110B@SOM-MB.wiley.com
14:06:07 <ivan> meeting agenda for 2014-09-15: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E028503E8F0110B@SOM-MB.wiley.com
Ivan Herman: meeting agenda for 2014-09-15: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E028503E8F0110B@SOM-MB.wiley.com ←
14:58:47 <Zakim> DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM has now started
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14:58:54 <Zakim> + +1.240.421.aaaa
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14:58:55 <Zakim> +azaroth
Zakim IRC Bot: +azaroth ←
14:58:56 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?
Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here? ←
14:58:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, +1.240.421.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, +1.240.421.aaaa ←
14:58:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot ←
14:59:23 <azaroth> zakim, why didn't you recognize me last hour for LDP but do recognize me now?
Robert Sanderson: zakim, why didn't you recognize me last hour for LDP but do recognize me now? ←
14:59:23 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, azaroth.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, azaroth. ←
14:59:38 <Zakim> + +1.650.644.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.650.644.aabb ←
14:59:53 <Zakim> + +1.217.244.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.217.244.aacc ←
14:59:58 <azaroth> zakim, aaaa is MikeMiller
Robert Sanderson: zakim, aaaa is MikeMiller ←
14:59:58 <Zakim> +MikeMiller; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MikeMiller; got it ←
15:00:04 <Zakim> +Tzviya
Zakim IRC Bot: +Tzviya ←
15:00:13 <clapierre> Zakim, +1.650.644.aabb is me
Charles LaPierre: Zakim, +1.650.644.aabb is me ←
15:00:13 <Zakim> +clapierre; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +clapierre; got it ←
15:00:21 <Zakim> + +1.609.216.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.216.aadd ←
15:00:27 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-aix
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-aix ←
15:00:27 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
15:00:28 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
15:00:28 <Zakim> + +1.617.439.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.439.aaee ←
15:00:30 <Zakim> + +1.617.858.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.858.aaff ←
15:00:35 <azaroth> zakim, aaaa is AH_Miller
Robert Sanderson: zakim, aaaa is AH_Miller ←
15:00:35 <Zakim> sorry, azaroth, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, azaroth, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' ←
15:00:56 <pkra> Zakim aaff is pkra
Peter Krautzberger: Zakim aaff is pkra ←
15:01:06 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers ←
15:01:12 <ivan> zakim, aaff is pkra
Ivan Herman: zakim, aaff is pkra ←
15:01:12 <Zakim> +pkra; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pkra; got it ←
15:01:39 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
15:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, +1.217.244.aacc, Tzviya, +1.609.216.aadd, +1.617.439.aaee, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, +1.217.244.aacc, Tzviya, +1.609.216.aadd, +1.617.439.aaee, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers ←
15:01:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot ←
15:01:47 <tzviya> Regrets: Markus, Brady, Vlad, Paul, Thierry, Laura, PhilM, BenKo, dauwhe
Scribe problem: the name 'Laura' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Laura Dawson Laura Fowler . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
15:01:50 <dkaplan3> zakim, aaee is me
Deborah Kaplan: zakim, aaee is me ←
15:01:50 <Zakim> +dkaplan3; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +dkaplan3; got it ←
15:02:31 <Zakim> + +33.1.41.23.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.1.41.23.aagg ←
15:02:34 <ivan> zakim, aadd is Laura
Ivan Herman: zakim, aadd is Laura ←
15:02:34 <Zakim> +Laura; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Laura; got it ←
15:02:47 <ivan> zakim, aacc is TimCole
Ivan Herman: zakim, aacc is TimCole ←
15:02:47 <Zakim> +TimCole; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TimCole; got it ←
15:02:59 <Zakim> + +1.734.904.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.734.904.aahh ←
15:03:03 <Luc> aagg is Luc
Luc Audrain: aagg is Luc ←
15:03:13 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice] ←
15:03:20 <ivan> zakim, Laura is Laura_Fowler
Ivan Herman: zakim, Laura is Laura_Fowler ←
15:03:22 <Zakim> +Laura_Fowler; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Laura_Fowler; got it ←
15:03:22 <azaroth> zakim, aagg is Luc
Robert Sanderson: zakim, aagg is Luc ←
15:03:23 <Zakim> +Luc; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Luc; got it ←
15:03:31 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?
Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here? ←
15:03:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice] ←
15:03:33 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
15:03:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, ←
15:03:34 <Zakim> ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot ←
15:03:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice] ←
15:03:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, ←
15:03:38 <Zakim> ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot ←
15:03:40 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:03:41 <fjh> zakim, ipcaller is me
Frederick Hirsch: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
15:03:42 <Zakim> +Ruben
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ruben ←
15:03:42 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it ←
15:03:52 <ivan> zakim, aahh is Bill_Kasdorf
Ivan Herman: zakim, aahh is Bill_Kasdorf ←
15:03:53 <Zakim> +Bill_Kasdorf; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Bill_Kasdorf; got it ←
15:04:00 <bjdmeest> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Ben De Meester: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:04:00 <Zakim> +??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19 ←
15:04:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, Bill_Kasdorf, [GVoice], Ruben, fjh, ??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, Bill_Kasdorf, [GVoice], Ruben, fjh, ??P19 ←
15:04:07 <bjdmeest> Zakim, Ruben is me
Ben De Meester: Zakim, Ruben is me ←
15:04:07 <Zakim> +bjdmeest; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bjdmeest; got it ←
15:04:14 <bjdmeest> Zakim, mute me
Ben De Meester: Zakim, mute me ←
15:04:14 <Zakim> bjdmeest should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bjdmeest should now be muted ←
15:04:20 <murakami> zakim, ??P19 is me
Shinyu Murakami: zakim, ??P19 is me ←
15:04:20 <Zakim> +murakami; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +murakami; got it ←
15:05:00 <TomDN> Zakim, TomDN is with bjdmeest
Tom De Nies: Zakim, TomDN is with bjdmeest ←
15:05:00 <Zakim> +TomDN; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TomDN; got it ←
15:05:03 <ivan> scribenick: pkra
(Scribe set to Peter Krautzberger)
15:05:14 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-dpub-minutes.html
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-dpub-minutes.html ←
15:05:14 <Zakim> + +1.646.336.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.646.336.aaii ←
15:05:17 <pkra> tzviya: review of last week's minutes.
Tzviya Siegman: review of last week's minutes. ←
15:05:29 <pkra> ... approved.
... approved. ←
15:05:38 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute bjdmeest
Tom De Nies: Zakim, unmute bjdmeest ←
15:05:38 <Zakim> bjdmeest should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bjdmeest should no longer be muted ←
15:06:05 <pkra> ???: new to the group: Ben
Tom De Nies: new to the group: Ben ←
15:06:18 <TomDN> s/???/TomDN
15:06:25 <pkra> Ben: starting PhD at Multimedia Lab.
Ben De Meester: starting PhD at Multimedia Lab. ←
15:06:32 <Zakim> +Bert
Zakim IRC Bot: +Bert ←
15:06:37 <pkra> ... research in digital publishing
... research in digital publishing ←
15:06:52 <Zakim> +madi
Zakim IRC Bot: +madi ←
15:06:52 <TomDN> Zakim, mute bjdmeest
Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute bjdmeest ←
15:06:52 <Zakim> bjdmeest should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bjdmeest should now be muted ←
15:07:01 <TomDN> s/Ben/bjdmeest
15:07:24 <pkra> thx.
thx. ←
15:07:30 <tzviya> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140915T11&p1=179
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140915T11&p1=179 ←
15:07:34 <ivan> Topic: early draft on content and markup
15:07:44 <tzviya> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-content-and-markup
Tzviya Siegman: https://github.com/w3c/dpub-content-and-markup ←
15:07:45 <pkra> tzviya: first agenda item: early draft on content & markup
Tzviya Siegman: first agenda item: early draft on content & markup ←
15:08:26 <pkra> ... we're interested in feedback about the direction of this document.
... we're interested in feedback about the direction of this document. ←
15:08:39 <ivan> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-content-and-markup/
Ivan Herman: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-content-and-markup/ ←
15:08:49 <pkra> ... especially from PF since contact has been limited
... especially from PF since contact has been limited ←
15:09:05 <pkra> ivan: is it possible to give a quick overview?
Ivan Herman: is it possible to give a quick overview? ←
15:09:35 <pkra> tzviya: introducing a vocabulary into aria to have a publishing vocabulary introduced.
Tzviya Siegman: introducing a vocabulary into aria to have a publishing vocabulary introduced. ←
15:09:48 <pkra> ... to bring semantics from publishing.
... to bring semantics from publishing. ←
15:10:06 <pkra> ... helps AT publishing specifics semantics and help user agents to make use of them.
... helps AT publishing specifics semantics and help user agents to make use of them. ←
15:10:17 <pkra> ... maybe people didn't have enough time to digest.
... maybe people didn't have enough time to digest. ←
15:10:18 <pkra> ...
... ←
15:10:25 <pkra> ... perhaps move to next week?
... perhaps move to next week? ←
15:10:31 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:10:39 <tzviya> zck ivan
Tzviya Siegman: zck ivan ←
15:10:45 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ivan ivan ←
15:10:52 <tzviya> s/ack/ivan
15:11:01 <pkra> ivan: what I miss a little bit is how exactly the aria attr. will be used
Ivan Herman: what I miss a little bit is how exactly the aria attr. will be used ←
15:11:12 <pkra> ... how would the terms be defined and by whom
... how would the terms be defined and by whom ←
15:11:19 <Zakim> +??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25 ←
15:11:34 <pkra> tzviya: I was hoping Janina from PF group could comment on that.
Tzviya Siegman: I was hoping Janina from PF group could comment on that. ←
15:12:25 <pkra> ... next step: build it out, work more with PF to have more to present to DPUB IG
... next step: build it out, work more with PF to have more to present to DPUB IG ←
15:12:44 <pkra> ivan: will be exciting to get this developed further
Ivan Herman: will be exciting to get this developed further ←
15:12:58 <Karen> Guest today is Pat Pagano, Director, Digital Content Operations
Karen Myers: Guest today is Pat Pagano, Director, Digital Content Operations ←
15:12:59 <pkra> tzviya: any other comments?
Tzviya Siegman: any other comments? ←
15:13:04 <dkaplan3> thanks for putting this together, tzviya
Deborah Kaplan: thanks for putting this together, tzviya ←
15:13:07 <Karen> from Barnes & Noble
Karen Myers: from Barnes & Noble ←
15:13:11 <pkra> tzviya: main topic: TPAC
Tzviya Siegman: main topic: TPAC ←
15:13:22 <ivan> zakim, ??P5 is Patrick_Pagano
Ivan Herman: zakim, ??P5 is Patrick_Pagano ←
15:13:22 <Zakim> I already had ??P5 as +35121723aacc, ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P5 as +35121723aacc, ivan ←
15:13:24 <pkra> ... several suggestions for meetings with other groups and internal meetings
... several suggestions for meetings with other groups and internal meetings ←
15:13:40 <ivan> zakim, ??P25 is Patrick_Pagano
Ivan Herman: zakim, ??P25 is Patrick_Pagano ←
15:13:40 <Zakim> +Patrick_Pagano; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Patrick_Pagano; got it ←
15:13:41 <pkra> ... a) PF on role attr
... a) PF on role attr ←
15:13:51 <pkra> ... b) HTML5 group on incorporating role
... b) HTML5 group on incorporating role ←
15:13:59 <pkra> ... c) session to talk about a11y
... c) session to talk about a11y ←
15:14:07 <pkra> ... d) with CSS to talk about pagination
... d) with CSS to talk about pagination ←
15:14:31 <pkra> ... e) on i18n / RTL / bidi
... e) on i18n / RTL / bidi ←
15:14:37 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:14:41 <pkra> ... anything missing?
... anything missing? ←
15:14:51 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/ ←
15:15:30 <ivan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP
Ivan Herman: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP ←
15:15:33 <dkaplan3> q+
Deborah Kaplan: q+ ←
15:15:58 <pkra> ivan: check list of registered participants
Ivan Herman: check list of registered participants ←
15:16:09 <pkra> ... not sure if you can't or intend to come.
... not sure if you can't or intend to come. ←
15:16:22 <pkra> ... we have to know if we have enough people for all task forces
... we have to know if we have enough people for all task forces ←
15:16:39 <pkra> ... we should look at individual task forces to see how we can work around this.
... we should look at individual task forces to see how we can work around this. ←
15:16:48 <pkra> madi: for Pearson, I'll be there and others from Pearson
Madi Solomon: for Pearson, I'll be there and others from Pearson ←
15:16:53 <clapierre> I will be there, I just haven't registered yet.
Charles LaPierre: I will be there, I just haven't registered yet. ←
15:17:19 <pkra> ... but I'm not on the list.
... but I'm not on the list. ←
15:17:20 <tzviya> ack dkaplan3
Tzviya Siegman: ack dkaplan3 ←
15:17:25 <pkra> tzviya: same for me.
Tzviya Siegman: same for me. ←
15:17:37 <Karen> Here is link to registration for Technical Plenary: http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/
Karen Myers: Here is link to registration for Technical Plenary: http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/ ←
15:17:49 <Karen> +1 observe other groups
Karen Myers: +1 observe other groups ←
15:18:02 <pkra> ???: besides our meeting, are there any other open meetings DPUB IG members should plan to attend?
???: besides our meeting, are there any other open meetings DPUB IG members should plan to attend? ←
15:18:13 <Bert> (I will be at TPAC and very interested in discussing CSS & pagination, during CSS meeting, during DPub meeting, or both.)
Bert Bos: (I will be at TPAC and very interested in discussing CSS & pagination, during CSS meeting, during DPub meeting, or both.) ←
15:18:23 <Karen> Note: Advance, online registration closes 8 October
Scribe problem: the name 'Note' does not match any of the 82 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Ayla Stein Ben Ko Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu Frederick Hirsch George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Dawson Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Michael Miller Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Priyanka Malik Richard Schwerdtfeger Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vlad Stirbu Vladimir Levantovsky akiyoshi ibuki Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Note: Advance, online registration closes 8 October [ Scribe Assist by Karen Myers ] ←
15:18:27 <pkra> ivan: you can attend every group as an observer.
Ivan Herman: you can attend every group as an observer. ←
15:18:33 <pkra> ... you should say that on registration.
... you should say that on registration. ←
15:18:45 <pkra> ... and please do, so that organizers can plan (room size etc)
... and please do, so that organizers can plan (room size etc) ←
15:19:04 <pkra> ???: aside from ad-hoc meetings and our internal ones, are there any sessions we SHOULD observe
Deborah Kaplan: aside from ad-hoc meetings and our internal ones, are there any sessions we SHOULD observe ←
15:19:18 <pkra> ... do we know when ad-hoc meetings are likely to be?
... do we know when ad-hoc meetings are likely to be? ←
15:19:35 <ivan> s/???/dkaplan3/
15:19:46 <pkra> ... I see on calendar 11--15 booked for ad-hoc meetings each day.
... I see on calendar 11--15 booked for ad-hoc meetings each day. ←
15:20:27 <pkra> ... would ad-hoc meetings all into "our" meetings time?
... would ad-hoc meetings all into "our" meetings time? ←
15:20:36 <pkra> ivan: not clear. We should try to fit it in our slots.
Ivan Herman: not clear. We should try to fit it in our slots. ←
15:20:43 <pkra> ... then talk to staff contacts of other groups.
... then talk to staff contacts of other groups. ←
15:20:47 <Karen> q+
Karen Myers: q+ ←
15:20:54 <pkra> ... then figure out how to organize that.
... then figure out how to organize that. ←
15:21:27 <ivan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP
Ivan Herman: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP ←
15:21:34 <pkra> ... I'm worried: some people are registered and not on the list.
... I'm worried: some people are registered and not on the list. ←
15:21:43 <pkra> ... who else has registered but is not on the previous link?
... who else has registered but is not on the previous link? ←
15:22:20 <pkra> ???: is there a difference between registering for TPAC and attending group meetings?
???: is there a difference between registering for TPAC and attending group meetings? ←
15:22:32 <pkra> ivan: ok, did people not list groups?
Ivan Herman: ok, did people not list groups? ←
15:22:51 <pkra> ... during registration, you're asked which groups to attend -- did you?
... during registration, you're asked which groups to attend -- did you? ←
15:22:57 <pkra> various: yes we did.
Scribe problem: the name 'various' does not match any of the 82 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Ayla Stein Ben Ko Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu Frederick Hirsch George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Dawson Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Michael Miller Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Priyanka Malik Richard Schwerdtfeger Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vlad Stirbu Vladimir Levantovsky akiyoshi ibuki Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown various: yes we did. ←
15:23:08 <pkra> ivan: mpf.
Ivan Herman: mpf. ←
15:23:19 <pkra> (couldn't resist)
(couldn't resist) ←
15:24:09 <pkra> ivan: examples to look into: madi, tzviya
Ivan Herman: examples to look into: madi, tzviya ←
15:25:06 <pkra> ivan: Bill_Kasdorf are you affected?
Ivan Herman: Bill_Kasdorf are you affected? ←
15:25:45 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: wasn't planning. metadata on the agenda. question if metadata is a good fit and if Frankfurt might not be a better opportunity.
Bill Kasdorf: wasn't planning. metadata on the agenda. question if metadata is a good fit and if Frankfurt might not be a better opportunity. ←
15:25:55 <pkra> tzviya: point of this item to figure this out.
Tzviya Siegman: point of this item to figure this out. ←
15:26:35 <pkra> ivan: chicken&egg problem. TPAC could be a more focused opportunity
Ivan Herman: chicken&egg problem. TPAC could be a more focused opportunity ←
15:26:48 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: is this Thursday?
Bill Kasdorf: is this Thursday? ←
15:26:51 <TimCole> I wouId like to see a metadata session some time on Thursday
Timothy Cole: I wouId like to see a metadata session some time on Thursday ←
15:26:55 <pkra> tzviya: Thur&Fri.
Tzviya Siegman: Thur&Fri. ←
15:27:09 <Karen> Digital Publishing IG meetings at TPAC on 30 and 31 October in Santa Clara
Karen Myers: Digital Publishing IG meetings at TPAC on 30 and 31 October in Santa Clara ←
15:27:12 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: still pretty full list
Bill Kasdorf: still pretty full list ←
15:27:20 <pkra> tzviya: let's discuss this on TF meeting tomorrow.
Tzviya Siegman: let's discuss this on TF meeting tomorrow. ←
15:27:37 <pkra> tzviya: Dave will be attending.
Tzviya Siegman: Dave will be attending. ←
15:27:50 <pkra> ivan: but Dave not on the list.
Ivan Herman: but Dave not on the list. ←
15:28:16 <pkra> Luc: ppl in France not planning to attend.
Luc Audrain: ppl in France not planning to attend. ←
15:28:26 <Karen> [from Hachette]
Karen Myers: [from Hachette] ←
15:29:07 <pkra> tzviya: first pending additional item: pagination.
Tzviya Siegman: first pending additional item: pagination. ←
15:29:20 <pkra> ... sharing/working on samples.
... sharing/working on samples. ←
15:29:43 <pkra> ... in particular, STEM => will be in touch with pkra / STEM TF
... in particular, STEM => will be in touch with pkra / STEM TF ←
15:30:24 <pkra> ... item: a11y.
... item: a11y. ←
15:30:35 <pkra> ... conversation with PF on extending role
... conversation with PF on extending role ←
15:30:41 <pkra> ... but also: personalization
... but also: personalization ←
15:30:49 <pkra> ... bringing a11y under the umbrella for personalization
... bringing a11y under the umbrella for personalization ←
15:31:20 <pkra> ... since we went on different directions, this might be useful to unify
... since we went on different directions, this might be useful to unify ←
15:31:34 <pkra> ... we should consider document for user cases on personalization, in particular a11y
... we should consider document for user cases on personalization, in particular a11y ←
15:31:47 <dkaplan3> q+
Deborah Kaplan: q+ ←
15:31:48 <pkra> ... very interesrted to get feedback on this.
... very interesrted to get feedback on this. ←
15:32:01 <pkra> especially from people involved with apip (?)
especially from people involved with apip (?) ←
15:32:04 <ivan> q-
Ivan Herman: q- ←
15:32:33 <ivan> ack dkaplan3
Ivan Herman: ack dkaplan3 ←
15:32:44 <pkra> ???: personalization more generally of interest?
Charles LaPierre: personalization more generally of interest? ←
15:32:59 <pkra> tzviya: we were trying to push a11y TF in one direction.
Tzviya Siegman: we were trying to push a11y TF in one direction. ←
15:33:08 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Accessibility_and_Personalization
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Accessibility_and_Personalization ←
15:33:14 <pkra> ... more areas to explore (e.g., SVG)
... more areas to explore (e.g., SVG) ←
15:33:23 <ivan> s/???/clapierre
15:33:34 <pkra> ... as we collected more use cases, they ended up under personalization
... as we collected more use cases, they ended up under personalization ←
15:33:55 <pkra> ... so it made sense to have this generally.
... so it made sense to have this generally. ←
15:34:36 <pkra> ... is there interest for clapierre and dkaplan3 (?) to draft something?
... is there interest for clapierre and dkaplan3 (?) to draft something? ←
15:34:58 <pkra> ... is it possible to start something ~Oct 13?
... is it possible to start something ~Oct 13? ←
15:35:08 <pkra> ... what else would you need from DPUB people?
... what else would you need from DPUB people? ←
15:35:25 <pkra> clapierre: connect key players in a call. First attempt last week failed.
Charles LaPierre: connect key players in a call. First attempt last week failed. ←
15:35:34 <pkra> tzviya: who do you consider key?
Tzviya Siegman: who do you consider key? ←
15:35:57 <pkra> clapierre: Mike, Ivan, Thierry, Markus, Deborah, myself
Charles LaPierre: Mike, Ivan, Thierry, Markus, Deborah, myself ←
15:36:15 <pkra> tzviya: suggest start offline with Deborah.
Tzviya Siegman: suggest start offline with Deborah. ←
15:36:28 <pkra> ... need someone from validation.
... need someone from validation. ←
15:36:34 <pkra> ... but too early right now.
... but too early right now. ←
15:36:53 <pkra> clapierre: correction: Mia
Charles LaPierre: correction: Mia ←
15:36:56 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:37:07 <pkra> tzviya: get started on the HTML page
Tzviya Siegman: get started on the HTML page ←
15:37:20 <pkra> ... the get me and ivan together, then Markus to connect to the right people.
... the get me and ivan together, then Markus to connect to the right people. ←
15:37:28 <pkra> clapierre: sounds good.
Charles LaPierre: sounds good. ←
15:37:45 <pkra> tzviya: missing items: talked to pkra on STEM.
Tzviya Siegman: missing items: talked to pkra on STEM. ←
15:38:33 <tzviya> <pkra> STEM update - not as far along as had hoped, interviews are in progress
Tzviya Siegman: <pkra> STEM update - not as far along as had hoped, interviews are in progress ←
15:39:18 <tzviya> pkra: summaries are coming shortly,
Peter Krautzberger: summaries are coming shortly, [ Scribe Assist by Tzviya Siegman ] ←
15:39:34 <Zakim> - +1.646.336.aaii
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15:40:06 <tzviya> pkra: should have something in writing by the end of the September
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15:41:30 <pkra> ivan: brings up issue of remote attendance.
Ivan Herman: brings up issue of remote attendance. ←
15:41:40 <pkra> ... should we do that? (Needs heads up to organize tech)
... should we do that? (Needs heads up to organize tech) ←
15:41:48 <clapierre> q+
Charles LaPierre: q+ ←
15:42:10 <pkra> ... pkra could you join remotely?
... pkra could you join remotely? ←
15:42:14 <tzviya> ack dkaplan
Tzviya Siegman: ack dkaplan ←
15:42:15 <pkra> pkra: yes.
Peter Krautzberger: yes. ←
15:42:18 <ivan> q-
Ivan Herman: q- ←
15:42:34 <tzviya> ack Karen
Tzviya Siegman: ack Karen ←
15:43:08 <pkra> Karen: point ppl to sign up for other groups to observe.
Karen Myers: point ppl to sign up for other groups to observe. ←
15:43:14 <pkra> ... wanted to make sure ppl are aware.
... wanted to make sure ppl are aware. ←
15:43:19 <Luc> If joining by call is avalable I would try though time shift isn't easy
Luc Audrain: If joining by call is avalable I would try though time shift isn't easy ←
15:43:21 <pkra> tzviya: thanks. In particular, annotation.
Tzviya Siegman: thanks. In particular, annotation. ←
15:43:27 <tzviya> ack clapierre
Tzviya Siegman: ack clapierre ←
15:43:38 <bjdmeest> I'm in the Annotation WG as well
Ben De Meester: I'm in the Annotation WG as well ←
15:44:01 <pkra> clapierre: to earlier item: Oct 13 actually won't work for me. Oct 20 better.
Charles LaPierre: to earlier item: Oct 13 actually won't work for me. Oct 20 better. ←
15:44:07 <pkra> tzviya: ok, let's work this out offline.
Tzviya Siegman: ok, let's work this out offline. ←
15:44:44 <pkra> tzviya: back to STEM at TPAC .
Tzviya Siegman: back to STEM at TPAC . ←
15:45:01 <pkra> ivan: I'll look into remote access.
Ivan Herman: I'll look into remote access. ←
15:45:55 <pkra> tzviya: should we add STEM to agenda and make it work timezone wise?
Tzviya Siegman: should we add STEM to agenda and make it work timezone wise? ←
15:45:58 <pkra> ivan: yes.
Ivan Herman: yes. ←
15:46:33 <pkra> tzviya: what else should we focus on? Few chances for F2F.
Tzviya Siegman: what else should we focus on? Few chances for F2F. ←
15:47:01 <pkra> ivan: let's spend time on discussing goals for 2015.
Ivan Herman: let's spend time on discussing goals for 2015. ←
15:47:18 <Karen> +1 planning session
Karen Myers: +1 planning session ←
15:47:19 <pkra> tzviya: agreed.
Tzviya Siegman: agreed. ←
15:48:05 <Karen> q+
Karen Myers: q+ ←
15:48:05 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: Great addition. I will try harder to make it.
Bill Kasdorf: Great addition. I will try harder to make it. ←
15:48:24 <pkra> Karen: also inviting guests to observe at technical plenary
Karen Myers: also inviting guests to observe at technical plenary ←
15:48:54 <pkra> tzviya: that was all we had for this on agenda.
Tzviya Siegman: that was all we had for this on agenda. ←
15:49:02 <pkra> ... please be in touch with other topics.
... please be in touch with other topics. ←
15:49:11 <pkra> ... anything else?
... anything else? ←
15:49:22 <pkra> ... ok, then intros.
... ok, then intros. ←
15:49:45 <pkra> ???: Nook media. Before that ebook production.
Patrick Pagano, Nook: Nook media. Before that ebook production. ←
15:49:58 <pkra> ... now looking at epub3, new devices and fitting in old devices.
... now looking at epub3, new devices and fitting in old devices. ←
15:50:10 <Karen> s/???/Patrick Pagano, Nook/Barnes & Noble
15:50:16 <pkra> ... very keen to catch up and get active on the group.
... very keen to catch up and get active on the group. ←
15:50:20 <pkra> thx Karen.
thx Karen. ←
15:50:30 <pkra> tzviya: thanks everybody!
Tzviya Siegman: thanks everybody! ←
15:50:47 <pkra> ... one last question: dress code for W3C gala?
... one last question: dress code for W3C gala? ←
15:50:54 <pkra> Karen: business casual.
Karen Myers: business casual. ←
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15:57:39 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:57:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-dpub-minutes.html ivan
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15:58:10 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon
Ivan Herman: trackbot, end telcon ←
15:58:10 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
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15:58:10 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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15:58:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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15:58:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-dpub-minutes.html trackbot
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15:58:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
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15:58:19 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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