Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
18 Nov 2013


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+1.541.678.aaaa, janina, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joseph_Scheuhammer


<trackbot> Date: 18 November 2013

<richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus



<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Janina

UAIG Items

rs: Any actions or issues?

clown: No, no mtg last week because of TPAC

rs: Need to discuss some last tests ...

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testreport?testsuite_id=2&filter_invalid=on&filter_required=on&filter=Filter+view

clown: JC notes "waiting on bug fixes"

rs: AT-SpPI has nothing to test except for a focus event

clown: Unclear from report page that there's nothing to test, it's just blank, should say "NA"

rs: IE11 not even generating focus event, so table will never pass
... Have they transitioned to UIA? We don't know, haven't been told
... We have the UIA column, but no info about it
... On line docs only refer to Win8

<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

rs: Would like to know what they're actually mapping
... Wondering whether webkit bugs will be resolved in time for CR exit?
... We have 2 implementations everywhere except these menu events

<clown> proposal: In IE11, the focus events disappeared under Win7 using Tooling. How to test? Also, do not see MSAA+UIExpress menu events. How do we test?

<clown> issue: Unable to test IE11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of MSAA column

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-629 - Unable to test ie11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of msaa column. Please complete additional details at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629/edit>.

<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629

<clown> #aapi


rs: Now pointing to ARIA-1.1 in order to pickup Describedat
... On all elements that Describedby supports


<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398


<trackbot> issue-398 -- Errata: aria-setsize and aria-posinset should apply to more than just listitem and option -- open

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398

rs: Ah, I see it's covered. Good!


<trackbot> issue-464 -- Allow aria-haspopup on more roles -- open

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/464

<clown> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2011OctDec/0054.html

<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-pf-minutes.html

clown: This is bubble-help
... Suggested Ctrl-F1 in dhtml guide -- but JN asks "How does the user know?" -- Discoverability

rs: haspopup becomes confusing

mk: dialog being handled well
... primarily a kybd access issue
... They are content, can be anything, e.g. business card at IBM

rs: Maybe better for IndieUI

<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/

<richardschwerdtfeger> rich: this has moved to Indie UI issue 17: https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/17

<richardschwerdtfeger> Resolution: Close issue 464

Summary of Action Items

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