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<trackbot> Date: 18 November 2013
<richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2013Nov/0038.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2013Nov/0037.html
<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Janina
rs: Any actions or issues?
clown: No, no mtg last week because of TPAC
rs: Need to discuss some last tests ...
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testreport?testsuite_id=2&filter_invalid=on&filter_required=on&filter=Filter+view
clown: JC notes "waiting on bug fixes"
rs: AT-SpPI has nothing to test except for a focus event
clown: Unclear from report page that there's nothing to test, it's just blank, should say "NA"
rs: IE11 not even generating
focus event, so table will never pass
... Have they transitioned to UIA? We don't know, haven't been
told
... We have the UIA column, but no info about it
... On line docs only refer to Win8
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
rs: Would like to know what
they're actually mapping
... Wondering whether webkit bugs will be resolved in time for
CR exit?
... We have 2 implementations everywhere except these menu
events
<clown> proposal: In IE11, the focus events disappeared under Win7 using Tooling. How to test? Also, do not see MSAA+UIExpress menu events. How do we test?
<clown> issue: Unable to test IE11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of MSAA column
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-629 - Unable to test ie11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of msaa column. Please complete additional details at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629/edit>.
<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629
<clown> #aapi
rs: Now pointing to ARIA-1.1 in
order to pickup Describedat
... On all elements that Describedby supports
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
issue-398?
<trackbot> issue-398 -- Errata: aria-setsize and aria-posinset should apply to more than just listitem and option -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
rs: Ah, I see it's covered. Good!
issue-464?
<trackbot> issue-464 -- Allow aria-haspopup on more roles -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/464
<clown> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2011OctDec/0054.html
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-pf-minutes.html
clown: This is bubble-help
... Suggested Ctrl-F1 in dhtml guide -- but JN asks "How does
the user know?" -- Discoverability
rs: haspopup becomes confusing
mk: dialog being handled
well
... primarily a kybd access issue
... They are content, can be anything, e.g. business card at
IBM
rs: Maybe better for IndieUI
<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/
<richardschwerdtfeger> rich: this has moved to Indie UI issue 17: https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/17
<richardschwerdtfeger> Resolution: Close issue 464
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