ISSUE-144: Add an @itemref-like attribute to RDFa

Add @itemref-like attribute

Add an @itemref-like attribute to RDFa

State:

CLOSED

Product:

RDFa 1.1 in HTML5

Raised by:

Manu Sporny

Opened on:

2012-11-05

Description:

Martin Hepp has asked us to consider adding an @itemref-like attribute to RDFa. Here is an excerpt of his request:

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You need itemref whenever you want to publish:

1. non-trivial data structures (e.g. GoodRelations patterns)
2. from visible markup
3. in non-toy HTML, i.e. the size and complexity of HTML templates used in today's shop systems.

With non-toy HTML, I meant that the RDFa textbook-style examples all assume short, valid, nicely organized HTML templates that come from single source, and in our work, we see:

- long,
- invalid,
- messy and unstructured HTML
- that is also often generated from different software components and collated before returning it to the requester.

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While we have discussed adding this feature to RDFa previously[1], Martin Hepp seems to have *new* implementation experience demonstrating the need for such a feature. We should request a number of examples from Martin, and examine if the evidence shows the need for a new @itemref-like attribute in RDFa.

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-data-tf/2011Oct/0099.html

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1. Telecon Agenda - January 17th 2012, 1500 UTC (from msporny@digitalbazaar.com on 2013-01-13)
2. Telecon Agenda - January 10th 2012, 1500 UTC (from msporny@digitalbazaar.com on 2013-01-10)
3. Re: Updates to HTML+RDFa 1.1 (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2013-01-07)
4. Re: Resolving remaining issues in the issue tracker (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-07)
5. Re: Updates to HTML+RDFa 1.1 (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-07)
6. Re: Resolving remaining issues in the issue tracker (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-07)
7. Resolving remaining issues in the issue tracker (from msporny@digitalbazaar.com on 2013-01-06)
8. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ahby@aptest.com on 2013-01-05)
9. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-05)
10. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ahby@aptest.com on 2013-01-05)
11. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-05)
12. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ahby@aptest.com on 2013-01-04)
13. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ahby@aptest.com on 2013-01-04)
14. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2013-01-04)
15. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ahby@aptest.com on 2013-01-04)
16. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2013-01-04)
17. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-03)
18. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-03)
19. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from lindstream@gmail.com on 2013-01-03)
20. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2013-01-02)
21. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2013-01-02)
22. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-02)
23. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2013-01-01)
24. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-01)
25. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2013-01-01)
26. Re: HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from ivan@w3.org on 2013-01-01)
27. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-31)
28. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-30)
29. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-30)
30. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-29)
31. HTML+RDFa source updated (ISSUE-97, ISSUE-144, ISSUE-146) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-27)
32. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-12)
33. Re: Weighing the ideas around itemref (from scorlosquet@gmail.com on 2012-12-10)
34. Re: Weighing the ideas around itemref (from lindstream@gmail.com on 2012-12-10)
35. Re: Weighing the ideas around itemref (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-10)
36. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-10)
37. Weighing the ideas around itemref (from lindstream@gmail.com on 2012-12-10)
38. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-09)
39. Re: Weighing the ideas around itemref (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-09)
40. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from danbri@danbri.org on 2012-12-08)
41. Re: Another possible problem? Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-08)
42. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-08)
43. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-08)
44. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from lindstream@gmail.com on 2012-12-08)
45. Re: Another possible problem? Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-08)
46. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-08)
47. Another possible problem? Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-08)
48. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-08)
49. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from lindstream@gmail.com on 2012-12-08)
50. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-07)
51. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-07)
52. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-07)
53. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-07)
54. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from danbri@danbri.org on 2012-12-07)
55. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-07)
56. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from gregg@greggkellogg.net on 2012-12-07)
57. Fwd: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-07)
58. Re: Reproducing Gregg/Niklas' thoughts (@itemref issue) (ISSUE-144) (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-12-07)
59. More data on ISSUE-144 (from msporny@digitalbazaar.com on 2012-12-04)
60. Re: Telecon Agenda - November 8th 2012, 1500 UTC (from ivan@w3.org on 2012-11-05)
61. ISSUE-144 (Add @itemref-like attribute): Add an @itemref-like attribute to RDFa [RDFa 1.1 in HTML5] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2012-11-05)
62. Telecon Agenda - November 8th 2012, 1500 UTC (from msporny@digitalbazaar.com on 2012-11-04)

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