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13:53:09 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
13:53:09 <trackbot> Date: 31 May 2012
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14:04:40 <manu1> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2012May/0139.html
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14:05:36 <Steven_> Scribe: Steven
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14:05:43 <manu1> Topic: Last Minute Issues and Concerns
14:06:01 <Steven_> Manu: Are there any last minute issues or concerns about the RDFa 1.1 REC?
Manu Sporny: Are there any last minute issues or concerns about the RDFa 1.1 REC? ←
14:07:14 <Steven_> No last minute concerns or issues.
No last minute concerns or issues. ←
14:09:04 <manu1> Topic: RDFa 1.1 REC Documents and Publication
14:09:06 <Steven_> Ivan: Hopefully nothing bad will happen between now and next Tuesday
Ivan Herman: Hopefully nothing bad will happen between now and next Tuesday ←
14:09:59 <Steven_> Manu: Status sections, and timing of primer
Manu Sporny: Status sections, and timing of primer ←
14:10:34 <Steven_> ... we want to publish the primer as a note, but I want it to have a bit more review
... we want to publish the primer as a note, but I want it to have a bit more review ←
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14:14:21 <Steven_> Manu: Can we update a primer after it's published as a Note?
Manu Sporny: Can we update a primer after it's published as a Note? ←
14:14:24 <Steven_> Steven: Yes
Steven Pemberton: Yes ←
14:15:00 <Steven_> Manu: So planning to publish next Thursday
Manu Sporny: So planning to publish next Thursday ←
14:15:19 <Steven_> ... status sections need to be included
... status sections need to be included ←
14:15:48 <Steven_> Steven: Status sections are Ivan's responsibility
Steven Pemberton: Status sections are Ivan's responsibility ←
14:15:54 <Steven_> Ivan: Yes, boilerplate is fine
Ivan Herman: Yes, boilerplate is fine ←
14:16:04 <Steven_> ... I'll check it tomorrow
... I'll check it tomorrow ←
14:16:09 <ShaneM> it is here: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-core/Overview-src.html - already done.
Shane McCarron: it is here: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-core/Overview-src.html - already done. ←
14:16:53 <Steven_> Ivan: We have to send an official pub request
Ivan Herman: We have to send an official pub request ←
14:17:51 <Steven_> ... I have it prepared
... I have it prepared ←
14:19:14 <Steven_> ... but I am at Semtech on the day it needs to be sent, so I'd prefer someone else to do it
... but I am at Semtech on the day it needs to be sent, so I'd prefer someone else to do it ←
14:19:58 <Steven_> ... and I would like Manu and Shane to be around to answer questions from the webmaster
... and I would like Manu and Shane to be around to answer questions from the webmaster ←
14:20:36 <Steven_> Manu: Will do, Shane and I will be on call for the publication. No call next week.
Manu Sporny: Will do, Shane and I will be on call for the publication. No call next week. ←
14:20:58 <Steven_> ... but two or more meetings before the group ends in July.
... but two or more meetings before the group ends in July. ←
14:25:22 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:29:00 <Steven_> [Discussion on which email list to use; decided on public-rdfa@w3.org]
[Discussion on which email list to use; decided on public-rdfa@w3.org] ←
14:29:15 <Steven_> Shane: No link to errata in lite. OK to add?
Shane McCarron: No link to errata in lite. OK to add? ←
14:29:18 <Steven_> Manu: Yes, please do.
Manu Sporny: Yes, please do. ←
14:29:22 <manu1> Topic: RDFa 1.1 Press and Blog Posts
14:30:02 <Steven_> Manu: Press we have lined up is the announcement at Semtech
Manu Sporny: Press we have lined up is the announcement at Semtech ←
14:30:18 <Steven_> ... and another article
... and another article ←
14:30:28 <Steven_> ... anyone else planning press/posts?
... anyone else planning press/posts? ←
14:31:06 <Steven_> Ivan: There's a panel at Semtech, where it will be mentioned
Ivan Herman: There's a panel at Semtech, where it will be mentioned ←
14:31:34 <Steven_> Manu: Will that be scribed?
Manu Sporny: Will that be scribed? ←
14:31:41 <Steven_> Ivan: Dunno
Ivan Herman: Dunno ←
14:32:00 <Steven_> Ivan: And there is the question of a W3C press-release
Ivan Herman: And there is the question of a W3C press-release ←
14:32:43 <Steven_> ... we're reaching out to companies to see if it is possible.
... we're reaching out to companies to see if it is possible. ←
14:35:01 <Steven_> ... it might happen if we get enough company support.
... it might happen if we get enough company support. ←
14:35:36 <Steven_> Manu: We can plan something for in a week or so, I'm working on contacts
Manu Sporny: We can plan something for in a week or so, I'm working on contacts ←
14:36:06 <Steven_> Manu: and keep announcements coming
Manu Sporny: and keep announcements coming ←
14:37:04 <Steven_> Steven: Is the old content on rdfa.info around? The blog and wiki?
Steven Pemberton: Is the old content on rdfa.info around? The blog and wiki? ←
14:37:12 <Steven_> Manu: We have an archive, but it's not up
Manu Sporny: We have an archive, but it's not up ←
14:37:20 <Steven_> Steven: So old URLs are currently broken
Steven Pemberton: So old URLs are currently broken ←
14:37:34 <Steven_> Manu: Yeah, for now
Manu Sporny: Yeah, for now ←
14:39:08 <Steven_> Steven: Are we publishing on rdfa.info?
Steven Pemberton: Are we publishing on rdfa.info? ←
14:39:23 <Steven_> Manu: No, on your own blog, or on news sites.
Manu Sporny: No, on your own blog, or on news sites. ←
14:39:59 <Steven_> Shane: Note that the specs use xhtml+rdfa, and it's worth pointing it out
Shane McCarron: Note that the specs use xhtml+rdfa, and it's worth pointing it out ←
14:40:09 <Steven_> Ivan: And the primer
Ivan Herman: And the primer ←
14:42:19 <Steven_> gkellogg: RDF and SPARQL WGs should use it as well
Gregg Kellogg: RDF and SPARQL WGs should use it as well ←
14:42:24 <Steven_> Shane: Good idea!
Shane McCarron: Good idea! ←
14:43:06 <manu1> Topic: RDF API and RDFa API publication
14:43:18 <Steven_> Manu: Publishing as notes
Manu Sporny: Publishing as notes ←
14:43:23 <Steven_> ... just requires time
... just requires time ←
14:45:53 <Steven_> Ivan: It is a valuable document, and actually already usable
Ivan Herman: It is a valuable document, and actually already usable ←
14:46:37 <manu1> Topic: @role attribute
14:46:50 <niklasl> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:46:54 <Steven_> Shane: PFWG owns this, need to decide how @vocab and default prefix apply to them.
Shane McCarron: PFWG owns this, need to decide how @vocab and default prefix apply to them. ←
14:46:55 <niklasl> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2012Feb/0069.html
Niklas Lindström: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2012Feb/0069.html ←
14:46:57 <manu1> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:47:00 <Steven_> ... what should we do?
... what should we do? ←
14:47:24 <Steven_> Niklas: vocab shouldn't apply to role
Niklas Lindström: vocab shouldn't apply to role ←
14:47:32 <manu1> ack niklasl
Manu Sporny: ack niklasl ←
14:47:44 <ShaneM> q+ to talk about role and vocab
Shane McCarron: q+ to talk about role and vocab ←
14:48:32 <Steven_> Ivan: The role people have a bunch of values they want to use
Ivan Herman: The role people have a bunch of values they want to use ←
14:48:53 <Steven_> ... role should behave as if the vocab is set to xhv
... role should behave as if the vocab is set to xhv ←
14:48:58 <Steven_> Niklas: Agree
Niklas Lindström: Agree ←
14:49:23 <manu1> ack shanem
Manu Sporny: ack shanem ←
14:49:23 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to talk about role and vocab
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14:49:56 <Steven_> Shane: the intention was that role would have a collection of reserved words in the xhv space
Shane McCarron: the intention was that role would have a collection of reserved words in the xhv space ←
14:50:09 <Steven_> ... ARIA relies heavily on @role
... ARIA relies heavily on @role ←
14:50:13 <Steven_> ... they already use it
... they already use it ←
14:50:27 <Steven_> ... they want to be able to extend the collection
... they want to be able to extend the collection ←
14:50:41 <Steven_> ... and cite predefined roles without anything special
... and cite predefined roles without anything special ←
14:51:00 <Steven_> ... It's fine if vocab doesn't apply, as long as prefix applies
... It's fine if vocab doesn't apply, as long as prefix applies ←
14:51:10 <Steven_> ... and full URIs work
... and full URIs work ←
14:51:57 <Steven_> Ivan: This means that RDFa implementations won't look at @role
Ivan Herman: This means that RDFa implementations won't look at @role ←
14:52:00 <niklasl> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:52:28 <Steven_> Shane: I'm ok with that
Shane McCarron: I'm ok with that ←
14:53:29 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:53:36 <ivan> ack niklasl
Ivan Herman: ack niklasl ←
14:54:02 <Steven_> Niklas: In atom @rel is always set to IANA relations
Niklas Lindström: In atom @rel is always set to IANA relations ←
14:54:18 <Steven_> Manu: That is a parallel issue
Manu Sporny: That is a parallel issue ←
14:54:38 <Steven_> ... are you suggesting we use that as a model for how to deal with @role?
... are you suggesting we use that as a model for how to deal with @role? ←
14:55:37 <Steven_> Niklas: We need to think about the future and increasing possibilities
Niklas Lindström: We need to think about the future and increasing possibilities ←
14:55:52 <Steven_> Ivan: That is for RDFa2
Ivan Herman: That is for RDFa2 ←
14:57:05 <manu1> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:57:22 <Steven_> Ivan: With 4 minutes to go, should we try to do RDFa+Atom as a note?
Ivan Herman: With 4 minutes to go, should we try to do RDFa+Atom as a note? ←
14:57:30 <Steven_> Manu: We need to review it
Manu Sporny: We need to review it ←
14:57:46 <Steven_> Ivan: I have implemented it, it is doable
Ivan Herman: I have implemented it, it is doable ←
14:59:17 <Steven_> Manu: Should we publish it as a note?
Manu Sporny: Should we publish it as a note? ←
14:59:58 <Steven_> Gregg: Future discussion
Gregg Kellogg: Future discussion ←
15:00:37 <Steven_> Manu: We should pull in Sam Ruby and Toby Inkster
Manu Sporny: We should pull in Sam Ruby and Toby Inkster ←
15:00:41 <ShaneM> w.r.t role - I am changing the spec to read: <li>Each value of <aref>role</aref> is an <em>object</em>, forming an
Shane McCarron: w.r.t role - I am changing the spec to read: <li>Each value of <aref>role</aref> is an <em>object</em>, forming an ←
15:00:41 <ShaneM> RDF triple with the subject and predicate defined above. An RDFa Processor MUST behave as if there is an in-scope vocabulary of <code>http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/</code> for the value(s) of the <aref>role</aref> attribute.</li>
Shane McCarron: RDF triple with the subject and predicate defined above. An RDFa Processor MUST behave as if there is an in-scope vocabulary of <code>http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/</code> for the value(s) of the <aref>role</aref> attribute.</li> ←
15:00:55 <Steven_> No call next week.
No call next week. ←
15:01:17 <Steven_> Manu: Thanks all!
Manu Sporny: Thanks all! ←
15:01:32 <Steven_> [ADJOURN]
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15:01:48 <MacTed> trackbot, end conference
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15:01:55 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: no telco planned for the 7th of June
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15:01:57 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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15:01:59 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been scor, Ivan, gkellogg, manu1, MacTed, niklasl, Steven_, ShaneM
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