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13:56:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:56:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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13:56:30 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:56:30 <trackbot> Date: 26 July 2011
13:56:50 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-07-26
13:57:11 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
13:57:23 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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13:57:30 <Zakim> +??P5
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13:57:38 <NickH> Zakim, ??P5 is me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, ??P5 is me ←
13:57:38 <Zakim> +NickH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +NickH; got it ←
13:57:53 <NickH> Zakim, mute me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, mute me ←
13:57:53 <Zakim> sorry, NickH, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
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13:57:57 <NickH> heh
Nicholas Humfrey: heh ←
13:58:59 <Zakim> + +1.310.729.aaaa
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13:59:06 <NickH> Zakim, mute me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, mute me ←
13:59:06 <Zakim> NickH should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: NickH should now be muted ←
13:59:08 <kasei> Zakim, aaaa is me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, aaaa is me ←
13:59:08 <Zakim> +kasei; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei; got it ←
13:59:17 <Zakim> + +49.897.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.897.aabb ←
13:59:45 <NickH> I can here you
Nicholas Humfrey: I can here you ←
13:59:50 <NickH> hear
Nicholas Humfrey: hear ←
13:59:57 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aabb is probably me
Axel Polleres: Zakim, aabb is probably me ←
13:59:57 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres?; got it
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14:00:05 <Zakim> +??P12
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14:00:08 <Zakim> +??P15
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14:00:11 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P12 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P12 is me ←
14:00:11 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:00:11 <AndyS> zakim, ??P12 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P12 is me ←
14:00:13 <Zakim> I already had ??P12 as cbuilara, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P12 as cbuilara, AndyS ←
14:00:19 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), kasei, AxelPolleres?, cbuilara, ??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), kasei, AxelPolleres?, cbuilara, ??P15 ←
14:00:22 <AndyS> zakim, ??P15 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P15 is me ←
14:00:22 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
14:00:24 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:00:39 <AndyS> OK
Andy Seaborne: OK ←
14:00:45 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS
(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)
14:00:50 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aacc
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14:00:54 <Zakim> -kasei
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14:01:05 <MattPerry> zakim, aacc is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:01:05 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
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14:01:39 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry ←
14:01:50 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
14:01:55 <SteveH__> Zakim, ??P9 is me
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P9 is me ←
14:01:55 <Zakim> +SteveH__; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH__; got it ←
14:02:12 <Zakim> +kasei
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14:02:18 <Zakim> + +3539149aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aadd ←
14:02:26 <alex_> Zakim, +3539149aadd is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, +3539149aadd is me ←
14:02:26 <Zakim> +alex_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +alex_; got it ←
14:02:28 <AxelPolleres> scribenick: steveH
(Scribe set to Steve Harris)
14:02:31 <AndyS> scribenick: SteveH__
14:02:59 <Zakim> +??P16
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←
14:03:04 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P16 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P16 is me ←
14:03:04 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:03:06 <SteveH__> AxelPolleres: admin, Lee will be late
Axel Polleres: admin, Lee will be late ←
14:03:28 <SteveH> … regrets: birte, greg
… regrets: birte, greg ←
14:03:31 <kasei> spotty connection.
Gregory Williams: spotty connection. ←
14:03:38 <kasei> but here just this moment.
Gregory Williams: but here just this moment. ←
14:03:38 <AndyS> scribenick: SteveH
14:03:39 <AxelPolleres> regrets: Olivier, Birte, Lee
14:03:53 <SteveH> … admin issues.
… admin issues. ←
14:03:58 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12 ←
14:04:15 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:04:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH__, kasei, alex_, cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH__, kasei, alex_, cbuilara ←
14:04:21 <Zakim> +pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←
14:04:37 <SteveH> Zakim, SteveH__ is me
Zakim, SteveH__ is me ←
14:04:37 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH; got it ←
14:04:57 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12 ←
14:05:16 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: scribe for next meeting, paul
Axel Polleres: scribe for next meeting, paul ←
14:05:34 <SteveH> pgearon: on holiday next week
Paul Gearon: on holiday next week ←
14:06:10 <AxelPolleres> birte should be back
Axel Polleres: birte should be back ←
14:06:19 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: scribe for next meeting, birte
Axel Polleres: scribe for next meeting, birte ←
14:06:47 <SteveH> … publications
… publications ←
14:06:55 <SteveH> … decide today about publication of drafts
… decide today about publication of drafts ←
14:07:13 <SteveH> … tsv-csv-results and json-results
… tsv-csv-results and json-results ←
14:07:29 <SteveH> … json-results should be in last call shape, tsv/csv in shape for FPWD
… json-results should be in last call shape, tsv/csv in shape for FPWD ←
14:07:41 <SteveH> … fed query needs more discussion
… fed query needs more discussion ←
14:07:47 <Zakim> -alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: -alex_ ←
14:08:05 <SteveH> … tsv/csv comments?
… tsv/csv comments? ←
14:08:08 <SteveH> q+
q+ ←
14:08:20 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
14:08:26 <AxelPolleres> go ahead steve
Axel Polleres: go ahead steve ←
14:08:29 <Zakim> +alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: +alex_ ←
14:08:43 <AndyS> ack SteveH
Andy Seaborne: ack SteveH ←
14:08:49 <alexpassant> Zakim, +alex_ is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, +alex_ is me ←
14:08:49 <Zakim> sorry, alexpassant, I do not recognize a party named '+alex_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, alexpassant, I do not recognize a party named '+alex_' ←
14:09:40 <SteveH> AndyS: tsv/csv - ready for FPWD, but still some editorial stuff, but better to publish (as WD) now
Andy Seaborne: tsv/csv - ready for FPWD, but still some editorial stuff, but better to publish (as WD) now ←
14:09:41 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
14:09:42 <SteveH> +1
+1 ←
14:10:04 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: anything on json results?
Axel Polleres: anything on json results? ←
14:10:16 <AndyS> SteveH - could you email the list with comments and I'll see if i can deal with them ASAP or post pub
Andy Seaborne: SteveH - could you email the list with comments and I'll see if i can deal with them ASAP or post pub ←
14:10:19 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html ←
14:10:27 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html ←
14:10:29 <SteveH> AndyS, I already did, ages ago
AndyS, I already did, ages ago ←
14:10:36 <SteveH> AndyS, I think you dealt with them
AndyS, I think you dealt with them ←
14:11:07 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: ask w3c team about dates, any comments?
Axel Polleres: ask w3c team about dates, any comments? ←
14:11:26 <AndyS> Ok - I believe I'm up-to-date - just need to add header mandatory in CVS (if not already done) Can't remember - will check cvs log
Andy Seaborne: Ok - I believe I'm up-to-date - just need to add header mandatory in CVS (if not already done) Can't remember - will check cvs log ←
14:11:44 <AndyS> +1 to publish both
Andy Seaborne: +1 to publish both ←
14:11:47 <SteveH> +1
+1 ←
14:12:02 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date.
ACTION: Axel to inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date. ←
14:12:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-499 - Inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-499 - Inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:12:50 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION4-99)
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION-499) ←
14:12:56 <SteveH> seconded
seconded ←
14:13:21 <AxelPolleres> s/4-99/-499/
14:13:38 <SteveH> +1 [Garlik]
+1 [Garlik] ←
14:13:44 <NickH> +1 [BBC]
Nicholas Humfrey: +1 [BBC] ←
14:13:44 <AndyS> +1 [Apache Software Foundation]
Andy Seaborne: +1 [Apache Software Foundation] ←
14:13:47 <alexpassant> +1 [DERI]
Alexandre Passant: +1 [DERI] ←
14:13:49 <pgearon> +1 [Revelytix]
Paul Gearon: +1 [Revelytix] ←
14:13:50 <kasei> +1 [RPI]
Gregory Williams: +1 [RPI] ←
14:13:51 <cbuilara> +1 [UPM]
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 [UPM] ←
14:13:55 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:14:13 <MattPerry> [Oracle]
Matthew Perry: [Oracle] ←
14:14:45 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION-499)
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION-499) ←
14:16:10 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: JSON results format.
Axel Polleres: JSON results format. ←
14:16:12 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499)
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499) ←
14:16:54 <AndyS> +1 [Apache Software Foundation]
Andy Seaborne: +1 [Apache Software Foundation] ←
14:16:56 <pgearon> +1 [Revelytix]
Paul Gearon: +1 [Revelytix] ←
14:17:03 <SteveH> +1 [Garlik]
+1 [Garlik] ←
14:17:03 <kasei> +1 [RPI]
Gregory Williams: +1 [RPI] ←
14:17:04 <MattPerry> +1 [Oracle]
Matthew Perry: +1 [Oracle] ←
14:17:06 <alexpassant> +1 [DERI]
Alexandre Passant: +1 [DERI] ←
14:17:09 <cbuilara> +1 [UPM]
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 [UPM] ←
14:17:09 <NickH> +1 [BBC]
Nicholas Humfrey: +1 [BBC] ←
14:17:23 <SteveH> I have some small reservations that it's not the right thing, but it's quite widely implemented
I have some small reservations that it's not the right thing, but it's quite widely implemented ←
14:17:43 <kasei> that html document says both "Editor's Draft" and "Working Draft" (?)
Gregory Williams: that html document says both "Editor's Draft" and "Working Draft" (?) ←
14:17:50 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499)
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499) ←
14:18:04 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: aim to publish these two together
Axel Polleres: aim to publish these two together ←
14:18:06 <AndyS> SteveH - pls let me know the reservations sometime.
Andy Seaborne: SteveH - pls let me know the reservations sometime. ←
14:18:10 <SteveH> … Fed Query document
… Fed Query document ←
14:18:41 <SteveH> cbuilara: comments about service with variables, there was a mistake in the semantics
Carlos Buil Aranda: comments about service with variables, there was a mistake in the semantics ←
14:18:52 <SteveH> … not possible to have a variables bound
… not possible to have a variables bound ←
14:19:05 <SteveH> … suggested to add [something]
… suggested to add [something] ←
14:19:22 <SteveH> … working on informative section
… working on informative section ←
14:20:26 <NickH> yes, better
Nicholas Humfrey: yes, better ←
14:20:36 <NickH> little bit of an echo
Nicholas Humfrey: little bit of an echo ←
14:20:55 <SteveH> … moving service to the last section, if everyone agrees
… moving service to the last section, if everyone agrees ←
14:21:12 <SteveH> … will continue formatting
… will continue formatting ←
14:22:13 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: do we have uncommitted changes
Axel Polleres: do we have uncommitted changes ←
14:22:16 <SteveH> cbuilara: yes
Carlos Buil Aranda: yes ←
14:22:26 <SteveH> … I can't commit the last stuff
… I can't commit the last stuff ←
14:22:32 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: please commit
Axel Polleres: please commit ←
14:22:54 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml ←
14:23:28 <AndyS> Beware of mirrors: "26-Jul-2011 14:22 45K"
Andy Seaborne: Beware of mirrors: "26-Jul-2011 14:22 45K" ←
14:24:45 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: concern about example using SERVICE and BINDINGs
Axel Polleres: concern about example using SERVICE and BINDINGs ←
14:25:03 <SteveH> … idea is that impl. could rewrite during execution, using BINDINGS
… idea is that impl. could rewrite during execution, using BINDINGS ←
14:25:12 <SteveH> using subquery to remote servoce
using subquery to remote servoce ←
14:25:17 <cbuilara> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0025.html
Carlos Buil Aranda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0025.html ←
14:25:18 <kasei> this is action 462 which is marked as "to be added post LC"
Gregory Williams: this is ACTION-462 which is marked as "to be added post LC" ←
14:26:39 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: can someone review §2.4 and §4?
Axel Polleres: can someone review §2.4 and §4? ←
14:26:46 <SteveH> … then we can go for publication next week
… then we can go for publication next week ←
14:26:55 <SteveH> … we could leave out §2.4 if there are concerns
… we could leave out §2.4 if there are concerns ←
14:27:43 <SteveH> … any objections to making §2.4 informative, so we're not as strictly bound by LC restrictions
… any objections to making §2.4 informative, so we're not as strictly bound by LC restrictions ←
14:27:58 <SteveH> AndyS: if we could change the example that would be goo, might be confusing to readers
Andy Seaborne: if we could change the example that would be goo, might be confusing to readers ←
14:28:13 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: I proposed different example
Axel Polleres: I proposed different example ←
14:28:24 <SteveH> AndyS: will try and look at proposal
Andy Seaborne: will try and look at proposal ←
14:28:49 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: carlos, write email to group. will have 2+ people review it for LC readiness
Axel Polleres: carlos, write email to group. will have 2+ people review it for LC readiness ←
14:28:58 <AndyS> I can try to review doc when Carlos says it's ready but it's "at risk" for next week.
Andy Seaborne: I can try to review doc when Carlos says it's ready but it's "at risk" for next week. ←
14:29:50 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness
ACTION: Andy to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness ←
14:29:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-500 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-500 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:30:05 <SteveH> call for volunteers
call for volunteers ←
14:30:23 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:30:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH, kasei, cbuilara, pgearon, alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH, kasei, cbuilara, pgearon, alex_ ←
14:30:23 <AndyS> zakim, Pick a victim
Andy Seaborne: zakim, Pick a victim ←
14:30:25 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_ ←
14:30:32 <NickH> sorry, federation
Nicholas Humfrey: sorry, federation ←
14:30:35 <NickH> is not my thing
Nicholas Humfrey: is not my thing ←
14:30:49 <SteveH> Zakim, who's talking?
Zakim, who's talking? ←
14:30:57 <AndyS> :-) Alex -- blame the bots for everything
Andy Seaborne: :-) Alex -- blame the bots for everything ←
14:31:01 <Zakim> SteveH, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres? (86%), AndyS (50%), alex_ (19%)
Zakim IRC Bot: SteveH, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres? (86%), AndyS (50%), alex_ (19%) ←
14:31:06 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Alex to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness
ACTION: Alex to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness ←
14:31:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-501 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Alexandre Passant - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-501 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Alexandre Passant - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:31:13 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness
ACTION: Axel to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness ←
14:31:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-502 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-502 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:31:51 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: carlos, it would be good if you were ready to resolve concerns with reviewrs
Axel Polleres: carlos, it would be good if you were ready to resolve concerns with reviewrs ←
14:32:11 <SteveH> … one point: errata
… one point: errata ←
14:32:17 <SteveH> … not sure how we handle that
… not sure how we handle that ←
14:32:37 <SteveH> … we have particularly on XML result format, which we decided not to update
… we have particularly on XML result format, which we decided not to update ←
14:32:42 <SteveH> … found issues, on errata page
… found issues, on errata page ←
14:32:48 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results ←
14:32:54 <SteveH> … I hope this is complete
… I hope this is complete ←
14:33:08 <SteveH> … some things on protocol, XML results
… some things on protocol, XML results ←
14:33:17 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
14:33:17 <SteveH> … do we need to publish errata for query 1.0? I guess not
… do we need to publish errata for query 1.0? I guess not ←
14:34:03 <SteveH> … for the process of errata we need to collect them in a certain format, then decide what to publish
… for the process of errata we need to collect them in a certain format, then decide what to publish ←
14:34:18 <SteveH> … we need an errata page for results format, and no sure about query 1.0
… we need an errata page for results format, and no sure about query 1.0 ←
14:34:45 <SteveH> AndyS: there are two kinds of errata, ones for doc in progress, we can just make changes. ones were not publishing, we need to pub errata
Andy Seaborne: there are two kinds of errata, ones for doc in progress, we can just make changes. ones were not publishing, we need to pub errata ←
14:35:09 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ ←
14:35:17 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata ←
14:35:23 <SteveH> AxelPolleres, there's an errata link there, which is just empty
AxelPolleres, there's an errata link there, which is just empty ←
14:35:26 <SteveH> … but it's a template
… but it's a template ←
14:35:38 <SteveH> … need to action someone to do it
… need to action someone to do it ←
14:35:43 <AndyS> Tricky bit is http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/result-to-html.xsl -- can we just change it in place?
Andy Seaborne: Tricky bit is http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/result-to-html.xsl -- can we just change it in place? ←
14:35:44 <SteveH> … then approve it
… then approve it ←
14:36:34 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: I will contact sandro about that
Axel Polleres: I will contact sandro about that ←
14:36:50 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata
ACTION: Axel to contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata ←
14:36:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-503 - Contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-503 - Contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:37:18 <SteveH> … we need a volunteer to look at errata format page, and update w.r.t items collected on wiki page
… we need a volunteer to look at errata format page, and update w.r.t items collected on wiki page ←
14:37:39 <AxelPolleres> We need someone to volunteer to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata
Axel Polleres: We need someone to volunteer to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata ←
14:37:51 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:37:51 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_ ←
14:37:56 <AndyS> !!!!!!!!!
Andy Seaborne: !!!!!!!!! ←
14:37:59 <alexpassant> :) no !!!
Alexandre Passant: :) no !!! ←
14:38:02 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:38:02 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose kasei ←
14:38:19 <kasei> Not in the next ~10 days, but afterwards.
Gregory Williams: Not in the next ~10 days, but afterwards. ←
14:39:15 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Greg to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata
ACTION: Greg to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata ←
14:39:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-504 - Incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-504 - Incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:40:21 <AxelPolleres> topic: action review
14:40:33 <AxelPolleres> please complete test case coverage actions bz next week!
Axel Polleres: please complete test case coverage actions bz next week! ←
14:40:35 <AndyS> The ACTION-498 is done by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jul/0006
Andy Seaborne: The ACTION-498 is done by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jul/0006 ←
14:41:12 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-498
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-498 ←
14:41:12 <trackbot> ACTION-498 Contact Sebastian Conca on how to proceed with his comment. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-498 Contact Sebastian Conca on how to proceed with his comment. closed ←
14:41:45 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: all actions should be for next week
Axel Polleres: all actions should be for next week ←
14:41:58 <SteveH> … review action for Lee is still open, but he has no objection to publish
… review action for Lee is still open, but he has no objection to publish ←
14:42:12 <SteveH> … one action open on greg, review [something]
… one action open on greg, review [something] ←
14:42:20 <kasei> q+
Gregory Williams: q+ ←
14:42:24 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
14:42:30 <SteveH> … same action as reviewing fed query last changes
… same action as reviewing fed query last changes ←
14:42:46 <SteveH> kasei: I don't that action is the same
Gregory Williams: I don't that action is the same ←
14:42:58 <SteveH> … it was specifically about text for using BINDINGS
… it was specifically about text for using BINDINGS ←
14:43:25 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: if you could have a look before next telecon it would be good
Axel Polleres: if you could have a look before next telecon it would be good ←
14:43:31 <SteveH> … not mission critical
… not mission critical ←
14:44:00 <SteveH> … carlos, will you tackle that next? some open action on you about a section for testcases
… carlos, will you tackle that next? some open action on you about a section for testcases ←
14:44:13 <SteveH> cbuilara: wrote a small thing about that
Carlos Buil Aranda: wrote a small thing about that ←
14:44:26 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: incorporate it directly into the README.html document
Axel Polleres: incorporate it directly into the README.html document ←
14:45:02 <Zakim> + +1.617.553.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.553.aaee ←
14:45:07 <LeeF> zakim, aaee is me
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aaee is me ←
14:45:07 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF; got it ←
14:46:07 <SteveH> cbuilara: I know that document
Carlos Buil Aranda: I know that document ←
14:46:36 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: ACTION-486 is basically done
Axel Polleres: ACTION-486 is basically done ←
14:46:48 <AxelPolleres> ACTION-486 ... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11
Axel Polleres: ACTION-486 ... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 ←
14:47:06 <SteveH> … is there any more things which need to go in?
… is there any more things which need to go in? ←
14:47:13 <SteveH> … I'm not really able to follow it
… I'm not really able to follow it ←
14:47:19 <SteveH> … how should we proceed?
… how should we proceed? ←
14:47:54 <SteveH> … no distinction with literals without a language tag, and xsd:String literals
… no distinction with literals without a language tag, and xsd:String literals ←
14:48:12 <SteveH> AndyS: current proposal is the lang tag literals may have a class, but no DT
Andy Seaborne: current proposal is the lang tag literals may have a class, but no DT ←
14:48:29 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: functions and BGP matching will be affected
Axel Polleres: functions and BGP matching will be affected ←
14:48:44 <SteveH> … SD may also need to have something in the note, to indicate support
… SD may also need to have something in the note, to indicate support ←
14:49:12 <SteveH> … last thing is entailment regimes, think we need to reflect the non-distinction between plain lit and string lit
… last thing is entailment regimes, think we need to reflect the non-distinction between plain lit and string lit ←
14:49:25 <SteveH> … if you have something, feel free to edit this doc
… if you have something, feel free to edit this doc ←
14:49:45 <SteveH> LeeF: I'll do the result format thing, for wiki page
Lee Feigenbaum: I'll do the result format thing, for wiki page ←
14:49:51 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: great
Axel Polleres: great ←
14:50:09 <SteveH> LeeF: you SHOULD/should not output xsd:string as a datatype
Lee Feigenbaum: you SHOULD/should not output xsd:string as a datatype ←
14:50:34 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11
ACTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 ←
14:50:50 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11
ACTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 ←
14:50:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-505 - Add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-505 - Add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:50:52 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: how can we proceed in populating this doc
Axel Polleres: how can we proceed in populating this doc ←
14:51:14 <SteveH> AndyS: I think it's getting on ok, but we need RDF-WG to give itself a fixed target, meetings every 2 weeks over summer, moving slowly
Andy Seaborne: I think it's getting on ok, but we need RDF-WG to give itself a fixed target, meetings every 2 weeks over summer, moving slowly ←
14:51:33 <SteveH> … from the p.o.v. we can't go faster than them, lets keep it ticking along, but not urgency
… from the p.o.v. we can't go faster than them, lets keep it ticking along, but not urgency ←
14:51:50 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: we don't have an official liaison, we could have it as part of admin issues
Axel Polleres: we don't have an official liaison, we could have it as part of admin issues ←
14:52:00 <SteveH> … along with other liaisons
… along with other liaisons ←
14:52:08 <SteveH> … put it in official agenda
… put it in official agenda ←
14:52:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to put "liaison" in next agenda draft.
ACTION: axel to put "liaison" in next agenda draft. ←
14:52:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-506 - Put "liaison" in next agenda draft. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-506 - Put "liaison" in next agenda draft. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:53:12 <AndyS> ready for review: got one so far from Steve (thx): http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KD-1
Andy Seaborne: ready for review: got one so far from Steve (thx): http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KD-1 ←
14:53:39 <LeeF> I'm happy with KD-1 response
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm happy with KD-1 response ←
14:53:46 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: one typo, provide / provides
Axel Polleres: one typo, provide / provides ←
14:55:19 <SteveH> Zakim, who's speaking
Zakim, who's speaking ←
14:55:19 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's speaking', SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who's speaking', SteveH ←
14:55:21 <SteveH> Zakim, who's speaking?
Zakim, who's speaking? ←
14:55:33 <Zakim> SteveH, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: SteveH, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
14:56:29 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: several comments from michael schneider, will ask birte if she's willing to look
Axel Polleres: several comments from michael schneider, will ask birte if she's willing to look ←
14:56:59 <SteveH> … next time, would like to get back to test cases, please strive to complete relevant actions
… next time, would like to get back to test cases, please strive to complete relevant actions ←
14:57:09 <SteveH> … publication of fed query
… publication of fed query ←
14:57:24 <SteveH> AJOURNED
AJOURNED ←
14:57:31 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
14:57:32 <Zakim> -MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry ←
14:57:32 <Zakim> -alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: -alex_ ←
14:57:35 <AndyS> bye all
Andy Seaborne: bye all ←
14:57:38 <MattPerry> bye
Matthew Perry: bye ←
14:57:38 <SteveH> bye
bye ←
14:57:39 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
14:57:41 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:57:43 <Zakim> -pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon ←
14:57:45 <NickH> Bye!
Nicholas Humfrey: Bye! ←
14:57:45 <Zakim> -SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH ←
14:57:48 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
14:57:55 <Zakim> -NickH
Zakim IRC Bot: -NickH ←
14:58:08 <AxelPolleres> Steve, will you take care of publishing thr minutes?
Axel Polleres: Steve, will you take care of publishing thr minutes? ←
14:58:10 <SteveH> LeeF/AxelPolleres, can you remember how to make minutes?
LeeF/AxelPolleres, can you remember how to make minutes? ←
14:58:30 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html ←
14:58:35 <SteveH> thanks
thanks ←
14:58:52 <SteveH> rrsagent, make records public
rrsagent, make records public ←
14:59:03 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/ --> quite self-explanatory
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/ --> quite self-explanatory ←
14:59:10 <AxelPolleres> thnks again for scribing, talk next week
Axel Polleres: thnks again for scribing, talk next week ←
14:59:20 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres ←
14:59:21 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended ←
14:59:23 <Zakim> Attendees were NickH, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, +49.897.aabb, AxelPolleres, cbuilara, AndyS, +1.603.897.aacc, MattPerry, alex_, pgearon, SteveH, +1.617.553.aaee, LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were NickH, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, +49.897.aabb, AxelPolleres, cbuilara, AndyS, +1.603.897.aacc, MattPerry, alex_, pgearon, SteveH, +1.617.553.aaee, LeeF ←
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