IRC log of tagmem on 2009-10-22

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16:59:52 [jar]
zakim, this will be tag
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ok, jar; I see TAG_Weekly()1:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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TAG_Weekly()1:00PM has now started
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+Jonathan_Rees
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+Raman
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+Ashok_Malhotra
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+Noah_Mendelsohn
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zakim, noah_mendelsohn is me
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+noah; got it
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see Jonathan_Rees, Raman, Ashok_Malhotra, noah
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On IRC I see raman, noah, RRSAgent, jar, Ashok, Zakim, DanC, ht, trackbot
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+DanC
17:03:45 [ht]
zakim, please call ht-781
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ok, ht; the call is being made
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+Ht
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scribe: Jonathan Rees
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scribenick: jar
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chair: Noah Mendelsohn
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zakim, please mute me
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Ht should now be muted
17:05:42 [DanC]
agenda + site-meta last call comments due 6 Nov (siteData-36 issue-36) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0057.html
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q+
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zakim, agenda?
17:06:01 [Zakim]
I see 11 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. Convene [from DanC]
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2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s) [from DanC]
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3. Administrative items (Brief) [from DanC]
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4. Privacy policy [from DanC]
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5. Security [from DanC]
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6. Forbidding hyperlinks [from DanC]
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7. HTML [from DanC]
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8. Pending Review Items [from DanC]
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9. Overdue Action Items [from DanC]
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10. Any other business [from DanC]
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11. site-meta last call comments due 6 Nov (siteData-36 issue-36) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0057.html [from DanC]
17:06:28 [jar]
zakim, next agendum
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agendum 1. "Convene" taken up [from DanC]
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zakim, next agendum
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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, jar
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q?
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ack danc
17:07:33 [ht]
zakim, unmute me
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Ht should no longer be muted
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+John_Kemp
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zakim, please mute me
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Ht should now be muted
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zakim, next agendum
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agendum 2. "Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)" taken up [from DanC]
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Minutes of 23-25 Sept F2F - table approval
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discussion of 2 week limit
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approved minutes 1 oct
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http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/01-minutes
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john k will read minutes of oct 8; take up approval next time
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zakim, next agendum
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agendum 3. "Administrative items (Brief)" taken up [from DanC]
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me
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who will be at TPAC?
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ashok, raman, noah, henry,
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+DanC.a
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I plan to be at TPAC
17:14:02 [jar]
Noah has worked out meeting time with HTML WG
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exact time depends
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danc: What shall we talk about?
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noah: Thanks to those who responded to the issue summary request
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(re shepherd... here I was thinking I wasn't shepherding any issues, but when I checked, I found the site-data thing was in my court)
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noah: Reminder about call for exclusions; period ends today.
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noah: What HTML-related things might we want to discuss at TPAC?
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noah: (re session planning)
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Zakim, who's on the phone?
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On the phone I see Jonathan_Rees, Raman, Ashok_Malhotra, noah, DanC, Ht (muted), John_Kemp, DanC.a
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danc: How about a poll.
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level of enthusiasm on call is depressing
17:19:13 [jar]
jar: Won't be at TPAC, no particular desires around TAG/TPAC discussions
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raman: Individual discussions will be the important thing
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zakim, unmute me
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Ht should no longer be muted
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ashok: Would like to ask whether there has been any progress since last meeting - anyone listening to the TAG?
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... authoring guidelines, extensibility, URIs, ...
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q+ to note progress on spec modularity
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... not that there hasn't been any; just would like to track progress ...
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danc: Could you (Ashok) go over last time's notes?
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noah: Ian did prepare an authoring draft and wants us to review it
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(I spent some time looking at the authoring draft, as did masinter)
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-John_Kemp
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noah: (continuing poll) Would like to go over our minutes in prep for TPAC
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+John_Kemp
17:24:21 [noah]
ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue for TPAC agenda(s) Due: 2009-10-29
17:24:32 [DanC]
Zakim, who's on the phone?
17:24:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Jonathan_Rees, Raman, Ashok_Malhotra, noah, DanC, Ht, DanC.a, John_Kemp
17:24:59 [noah]
I was supposed to get input from Larry as input to my ACTION 319 on media types. Was hoping Larry would be here today to clarify status.
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ht: RDFa is something where we could get some benefit from discussion
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noah: consider the HTML media type issue
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ht: yes, remember Tim's desire to have XHTML handled properly when served with text/html
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s/served with/served as/
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ACTION: Noah to respond to HTML WG chairs with suggested TPAC topics -- see minutes of 22 Oct
17:27:12 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-320 - Respond to HTML WG chairs with suggested TPAC topics -- see minutes of 22 Oct [on Noah Mendelsohn - due 2009-10-29].
17:27:33 [jar]
danc: (continuing poll) about URIs, what is the time scale? sequencing of the two specs (IRI / HTML5)
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johnk: RDFa / microdata is worth discussing. also distributed extensibility
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-DanC.a
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see Jonathan_Rees, Raman, Ashok_Malhotra, noah, DanC, Ht, John_Kemp
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On IRC I see DanC, raman, noah, RRSAgent, jar, Ashok, Zakim, ht, trackbot
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+DanC.a
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-DanC.a
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zakim, drop DanC
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DanC is being disconnected
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-DanC
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+DanC
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(note to minutes editor: remove "(Brief)" from agendum name)
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 9 items remaining on the agenda:
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3. Administrative items (Brief) [from DanC]
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4. Privacy policy [from DanC]
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5. Security [from DanC]
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6. Forbidding hyperlinks [from DanC]
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7. HTML [from DanC]
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8. Pending Review Items [from DanC]
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9. Overdue Action Items [from DanC]
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10. Any other business [from DanC]
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11. site-meta last call comments due 6 Nov (siteData-36 issue-36) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0057.html [from DanC]
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-John_Kemp
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noah: Call for agenda for TAG meeting at TPAC
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+John_Kemp
17:32:26 [jar]
zakim, next agendum
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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, jar
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q?
17:32:45 [DanC]
ack danc
17:32:45 [Zakim]
DanC, you wanted to note progress on spec modularity
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zakim, next agendum
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agendum 4. "Privacy policy" taken up [from DanC]
17:33:17 [DanC]
action-318?
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ACTION-318 -- Noah Mendelsohn to send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP) Working Group on behalf of the TAG -- due 2009-10-15 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
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* From minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit 2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
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* ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP) Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct 2009
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Continued
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action-318 due october 25
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ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP) Working Group on behalf of the TAG due date now october 25
17:34:43 [DanC]
(does it matter when we send our thingy to the DAP WG? ht? (picking on you somewhat arbitrarily))
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ashok: There's a similar note on policy [...] to media annotations WG -- should we make a more general statement?
17:35:32 [jar]
danc: Not my style. The anybody/nobody/somebody problem
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[DAP WG]
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ACTION Noah to bug Larry about his input to ACTION-318
17:36:21 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-321 - Bug Larry about his input to ACTION-318 [on Noah Mendelsohn - due 2009-10-29].
17:36:43 [jar]
zakim, take up next item
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agendum 5. "Security" taken up [from DanC]
17:37:27 [jar]
This is what wants an answer: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0095.html
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NM: I'm not sure whether the link in the agenda is also pertinent
17:38:28 [noah]
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:22:35 +0200, Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
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wrote:
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> One point of clarification: my (admittedly imperfect) understanding
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> was that the most important parts of CORS have to be implemented
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> _server_-side for the proposal to achieve its goals. If that's true,
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> browser deployment alone is insufficient. Is that a misunderstanding
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> on my part?
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As was pointed out elsewhere in this thread it was.
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I was wondering if the TAG considers this item closed or wishes to know
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something more, in which case I'd like to hear about it! I'm trying to
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wrap up email threads and this is one of them. Thanks!
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Kind regards,
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Anne van Kesteren
17:39:20 [DanC]
(this = the confused deputy stuff or the server/client-side stuff?)
17:39:33 [noah]
I think so Dan
17:39:43 [DanC]
which?
17:40:00 [jar]
raman: Not a security expert, but have heard individuals I respect question it
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(a) the confused deputy problem in 0042 or (b) the server/client-stuff in 0095
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noah: Appropriate for the TAG to become a focal point
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q?
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ht: Looking to see current state of the thread that my email kicked off
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q+ to speak to the confused deputy problem
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noah: Does CORS go to LC on its own?
17:42:11 [DanC]
q_ to note that the confused deputy stuff isn't in the CORS issue list http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/7
17:42:17 [DanC]
q+ to note that the confused deputy stuff isn't in the CORS issue list http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/7
17:42:37 [noah]
q?
17:42:51 [jar]
raman: If we have things to say, we should do so now, not wait for their LC
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q+ to say that if more research is needed, now is a good time to kick it off
17:44:05 [noah]
Dan, I'm curious whether http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0042.html is about CORS at all
17:44:09 [jar]
danc: Regarding 0042 - distinction between "Anne and others" don't see a problem and "the WG" doesn't see a problem
17:44:29 [ht]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0104.html
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... But confused deputy is not in their issues list ...
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... Mark M if he has a problem with this needs to get this onto their issues list
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-John_Kemp
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ht: The thread peters out into unresolved disagreement
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+John_Kemp
17:45:53 [jar]
... we could say: Doesn't look like you're done, but I see that there is no open issue
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... what is their process?
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danc: I think Mark M has raised an issue, and it ought to be added to their list
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s/it ought to be added/I'm inclined to ask the chair to add it/
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(the difference is: their chair might clarify the way they handle issues)
17:48:10 [jar]
noah: Propose ht to send a request on behalf of the TAG, that the WG open an issue [re confused deputy]
17:49:13 [jar]
noah: alternative: ht to send a request (not directly on behalf of TAG) etc
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-John_Kemp
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q?
17:49:45 [noah]
q-
17:49:57 [DanC]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0095.html
17:50:32 [jar]
danc: But that's not what the 8 oct message was about.
17:50:35 [noah]
DC: I am talking about the message of 8 Oct., not 19th
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danc: Two parts of this agendum on today's meeting.
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ht: Thought this was about 19 October.
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danc: Put aside confused deputy for now.
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+John_Kemp
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noah: There was a problem with the agenda..
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danc: OK to let 8 Oct (0095) drop.
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ht: Not competent to judge this...
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need to leave --- bye all!
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-Raman
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noah: This question (about server side deployment) more appropriate for CR time
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NM: Seems to me that need for interoperable server side implementations might be an important CR exit criterion.
17:54:49 [jar]
The confused deputy piece comes from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1215.html
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(note to minutes editor... make sure to get the 2 issues untangled in the minutes)
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Discussion of CR exit critieria. Can criteria be added after LC?
17:56:10 [jar]
danc: Usually some of these decisions wait until discussion with the director
17:59:08 [ht]
Sorry for the delay -- the discussion has clarified the current
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relevance of client-side implementations, and as far as that goes the
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TAG is happy.
17:59:08 [ht]
17:59:08 [ht]
We do assume that demonstrating interoperable server-side
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implementation will be a necessary part of your CR exit criteria --
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could you please confirm that?
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17:59:21 [DanC]
+1
17:59:31 [jar]
q+ jar to talk about 1215 vs. 0095 and apologize for mixing them up
17:59:31 [noah]
should that be s/could/would/ ?
17:59:38 [DanC]
ack danc
17:59:38 [Zakim]
DanC, you wanted to speak to the confused deputy problem and to note that the confused deputy stuff isn't in the CORS issue list http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/7
18:00:29 [jar]
Agreement that HT should send that (see above "Sorry for ...")
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ack jar
18:00:30 [Zakim]
jar, you wanted to talk about 1215 vs. 0095 and apologize for mixing them up
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I was the one who mixed up 1215 and 95, I'm pretty sure
18:01:16 [noah]
JAR: I think we're now OK on server side
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JAR: The one that Henry sent on behalf of the TAG is the 1215 message, on confused deputy. Should they open an issue on that?
18:02:12 [DanC]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1215.html
18:02:13 [jar]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1215.html
18:03:25 [jar]
no.
18:04:09 [ht]
"the new functionality
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> provided would, on the one hand, be insufficiently secure while, on
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> the
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> other, discouraging the provision of something more satisfactory.
18:04:10 [jar]
ht: There are two parts to the paragraph in (1215).
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"
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... Anne responded to the part about server side deployment, asking if that was still an issue for us...
18:04:50 [noah]
I'm still not convinced that the IRC log is getting how the parts of this discussion fit.
18:05:07 [noah]
JAR, are you grokking enough of this to clarify when you edit later?
18:05:24 [jar]
... but that's not the deeper question posed at the end, about how secure it will be.
18:05:32 [ht]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0104.html
18:06:32 [jar]
2nd part of 1215 = the "even if it did" part, which gave rise to "unaddressed security concerns" thread (0014 see above)
18:06:36 [ht]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0102.html
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ht: 0102 is from Mark Miller. You never want confused deputy vulnerabilities; that's what matters.
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s/0014/0104/
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s/want/addressed/
18:07:41 [jar]
ht: That thread has not been reflected as an issue, or been brought to a resolution
18:08:01 [noah]
q?
18:08:30 [jar]
danc: And Anne is the editor, and says "I and others don't see an issue"...
18:08:46 [jar]
noah: We agreed to say something right?
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noah: Henry will send a note to Art
18:09:33 [jar]
zakim, take up next item
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agendum 6. "Forbidding hyperlinks" taken up [from DanC]
18:10:15 [DanC]
URIs, deep linking, framing, adapting and related concerns Rotan Hanrahan (Friday, 16 October) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0031.html
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danc: Rotan H brought this to the TAG
18:11:05 [jar]
noah: As you recall... TAG worked on "deep linking" way back when
18:11:51 [noah]
TAG Finding on Deep Linking: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911
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... and now some sites are saying "don't link to me *at all*"
18:12:30 [noah]
From the finding's conclusion:
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Attempts at the public-policy level to limit the usage, transmission and publication of URIs at the policy level are inappropriate and based on a misunderstanding of the Web's architecture. Attempts to control access to the resources identified by URIs are entirely appropriate and well-supported by the Web technology.
18:13:17 [jar]
q?
18:13:32 [noah]
JAR: I think people are looking for legal advice
18:13:41 [DanC]
q+
18:13:44 [noah]
NM: Finding is anappropriate?
18:13:59 [noah]
JAR: No, but now we need a legal reading.
18:14:34 [jar]
danc: But web architecture is social, it's the whole thing.
18:14:38 [noah]
+1
18:14:42 [DanC]
s/social/also social/
18:14:46 [jar]
... There's no other body that can take a stand here.
18:14:52 [jar]
... (than the TAG)
18:15:29 [jar]
noah: Maybe take deep linking finding and turn it inside out?
18:15:51 [jar]
... linking generally, with deep linking as a special case.
18:15:54 [DanC]
q+ to note that our deep linking finding (and webarch) goes to far in saying "the long-random-number /capability URI pattern is bad"
18:16:22 [noah]
I think that's covered in metadata in URI finding, no?
18:16:27 [noah]
Still could fix this one.
18:16:34 [ht]
Oh bother, /me is late -- bye!
18:16:39 [jar]
danc: Problem, it says don't use security by obscurity. But long random numbers are used to good effect... so that needs revision
18:16:43 [Zakim]
-Ht
18:17:13 [jar]
noah: So it seems we could do better.
18:17:31 [noah]
Dan and I both seem intrigued about doing better, anyone else?
18:17:59 [jar]
ashok: On a conversation about mobile devices, there was a question that a URI couldn't be made public for security reasons.
18:18:19 [jar]
noah: URI for a device - such as a phone?
18:18:32 [jar]
noah: Web server associated with it?
18:18:35 [jar]
ashok: Yes
18:18:55 [jar]
noah: URIs move through the network in the clear a lot, yes?
18:19:31 [jar]
johnk: Often there's a proxy, which might not be talking http on the far side (to the device)
18:19:51 [jar]
noah: Is this really the web, between proxy and the phone?
18:20:20 [DanC]
(indeed, it's using web technologies, but it's not "The Web". or something... I've never found a good way to write this up... it's somewhat like http://my.yahoo.com/ too. and intranets.)
18:21:12 [noah]
q?
18:21:20 [DanC]
ack danc
18:21:20 [Zakim]
DanC, you wanted to note that our deep linking finding (and webarch) goes to far in saying "the long-random-number /capability URI pattern is bad"
18:21:22 [noah]
ack Danc
18:21:27 [jar]
johnk: Not sure that mobile phone URIs are relevant to this discussion...
18:23:19 [jar]
tickets.com vs. ticketmaster etc.
18:24:06 [DanC]
issue-25?
18:24:06 [trackbot]
ISSUE-25 -- What to say in defense of principle that deep linking isnot an illegal act? -- CLOSED
18:24:06 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/25
18:24:31 [noah]
q?
18:24:43 [jar]
jar: Will a revised finding serve the present need?
18:28:00 [noah]
q+ to say, speaking for myself, I don't want to hang up on the legal issues
18:28:19 [noah]
ack next
18:28:20 [Zakim]
noah, you wanted to say, speaking for myself, I don't want to hang up on the legal issues
18:28:21 [jar]
q?
18:29:40 [jar]
noah: What needs to be said: You should understand the value of network effects. That understanding needs to influence your legal decisions. This affects what the web will be like.
18:30:50 [jar]
noah: If we can say something about legal precedent in addition, that's good too
18:31:35 [DanC]
ACTION DanC: ask W3C management for writing resources re hyperlinking
18:31:35 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-322 - Ask W3C management for writing resources re hyperlinking [on Dan Connolly - due 2009-10-29].
18:31:44 [DanC]
agenda?
18:32:03 [jar]
jar: When you're deciding whether to publish a URI, you're not going to ask what web architecture is, you're going to ask whether you're likely to be sued
18:32:05 [Zakim]
-Ashok_Malhotra
18:32:20 [jar]
ADJOURNED.
18:32:34 [jar]
rrsagent, make logs public
18:32:45 [jar]
rrsagent, pointer
18:32:45 [RRSAgent]
See http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-tagmem-irc#T18-32-45
18:39:37 [Zakim]
-noah
18:39:38 [Zakim]
-John_Kemp
18:39:38 [Zakim]
-Jonathan_Rees
18:39:39 [Zakim]
-DanC
18:39:39 [Zakim]
TAG_Weekly()1:00PM has ended
18:39:41 [Zakim]
Attendees were Jonathan_Rees, Raman, Ashok_Malhotra, noah, DanC, Ht, John_Kemp, DanC.a