<janina> Hey, Josh!

hey, janina, dialing in in a moment

for reference: http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/Caucus

HTML5 Issues & Requirements start page: http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5

sorry about that - it's going to take another few minutes before i can call in again

meantime http://www.galaxyzoo.org/

"Your job is very simple! When classifying you will be shown an image of a galaxy and be asked a series of questions about it."

GZ: "All you need to do is to look for features that mark out different types of galaxy and answer the questions as well as you can."

(GZ = globalzoo not gez lemon!)

GZ: "If you find it hard to decide upon the answer to a particular question, don't worry!"
... "By looking at all the answers given for each galaxy, scientists will be able to work out which is most likely to be the right one"
... "Your individual opinion is extremely important to making that possible."

GZ is not only an extremely intriguing project, it also exposes the fallicy of 2 red-herrings:

1. the "Flickr" argument against requiring alt for images that are mass uploaded

(it is up to the uploading aggregator app to provide a means of adding alt to images so that the final product can validate)

2. the "image hueristics" canard - GZ: "This is a job that humans are much better at than computers"

need to change topic to gregory WILL flood the buffer

<Joshue> @summary issue: Action 111 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/111

<Joshue> Janina, Sam notes on the above page that "Not finding any takers to date, if I don't find one by the end of the month, I'm inclined to close this due to lack of interest."

https://www.galaxyzoo.org/how_to_take_part

https://www.galaxyzoo.org/story

http://www.galaxyzoo.org/copyright

<Joshue> thats a good find GJR

http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/MachineImageProcessing

<Joshue> I gotta say they are amazing photos also..

http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/HumanImageProcessing

i like to go through JPL photos with my teenaged nephew

"There MUST be a means of adding human parseable terse descriptors using alt or aria-labelledby. Tools like Flickr should aim for ATAG and WCAG compliance. Ideally, the author should be prompted to provide terse descriptors at load-time or pre-load, but definitely MUST provide a facility to attach terse descriptors to each image post-load."

<Joshue> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/111

<janina> We want to discuss profile attribute on head for a Wednesday call

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Default Present: +2, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Cynthia_Shelly
Present: Josh Janina Gregory Cynthia Michael_Cooper
Regrets: Gez
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2009AprJun/0157.html
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