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<trackbot> Date: 26 November 2008
<erik> regrets for: Raphael, Guillaume, Michael
<erik> Yves, are you on the phone too?
<thierry> I ammuted but still have a terrible buzz
<erik> ok, let's get started
<erik> Yves, can you scribe?
<thierry> Buz still here ;-(
<scribe> scribe: davy
<scribe> scribenick: davy
Accept minutes of last week?
<erik> +1
<Silvia> +1
minutes accepted
erik: both groups will consist of
10 people
... other people from MMLab and VRT medialab will also attend
the meeting
... there is also a first draft of the agenda
erik goes through the draft agenda
<Yves> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/SecondF2FAgenda
<Yves> sounds good to me!
erik: anyone has some problems with the draft?
<Silvia> looks good to me
3.5 existing technologies
erik: work is ongoing
3.4 RTSP
erik: this page seems ok for the moment
3.3 HTTP
erik: raphael still has to do this
3.2 types of fragment addressing
<Yves> I will take a shot at it as well (HTTP page)
silvia: put information into wiki, decisions about what to support are taken in f2f
<Yves> +1
<erik> +1
+1
<Silvia> +!
<Yves> I'll add thing about pros and cons of different solutions
<Yves> wrt HTTP use
<erik> get better soon! (at least 8 & 9 dec :)
3.1 use cases and requirements
silvia elaborates on the document
silvia: we should still decide what is in and out of scope
ACTION erik to review the use cases and requirements document
<trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - Review the use cases and requirements document [on Erik Mannens - due 2008-12-03].
<Yves> it might be good to publish the use case document as a WG Note at some point (better to reference a frozen document form the main spec0
<jackjansen> the minutes are empty:-(
<Silvia> Yves: it is my expectation that the wiki page will be turned into the FPWD by Raphael - is that how you think about it, too?
<Yves> silvia; yes
action Jack to add additional use cases in the wiki page
<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Add additional use cases in the wiki page [on Jack Jansen - due 2008-12-03].
close ACTION-13
<trackbot> ACTION-13 Examples of combining Media Fragment URI with SMIL clipBegin and clipEnd closed
cache discussion
<Yves> yes
erik: leave this open untill next week
<erik> 4.issues
<erik> elaboration on Davy's page ... http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_Fragment_Caches
<Silvia> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Types_of_Fragment_Addressing
<erik> Davy: still a lot of work has to be done on Table
<erik> Davy: difference between two pages ("types of adressing" & "HTTP Fragment caches") ... but of course some info is overlapping
<Yves> this may be merged in the HTTP page
<Yves> fragments axis in Types_of_Fragment_Addressing
<erik> still a page needed on caching (protocol & handshaking stuff)?
silvia: we should work on the
syntax page
... people are waiting for that
... specially HTML5 group (video element)
jack: is it a good idea for HTML5 group? Values regarding fragments are not longer available as attributes
silvia: attributes are gone, but are still available in the API
jack: we should provide some guidelines based on a given scenario
erik: new member: Conrad Parker
silvia: he will probably only be active on mailinglist
<thierry> No fine