IRC log of wai-wcag on 2008-02-28
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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- RRSAgent, make log world
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- zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, Ben, I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM already started
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0097.html
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- Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +Cooper
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- ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
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- Regrets: Roberto_Scano
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- agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2rquw6>
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2kcvnf>
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- + +1.410.757.aaaa
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- zakim, +1.410 is Drew
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- +Drew; got it
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- +Sean_Hayes
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- +David_MacDonald
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +Tim_Boland
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- +[Microsoft]
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- +??P9
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- scribe: Tim
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- +??P10
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- 06zakim, ??P10 is Roberto_Ellero01
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- +Sofia_Celic
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- Topic: Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben]
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- +??P12
- 21:07:51 [Ben]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 21:07:51 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Alex_Li, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Drew, Sean_Hayes, David_MacDonald, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly, Gregg_and_Ben, Andi_Snow_Weaver,
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- ... Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, Nikolaos_Floratos
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- ack Bruce
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2rquw6> [from Ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2rquw6>" taken up [from Ben]
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- Topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008
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- +??P13
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- Topic: Issue 2389 - Cognitive Support
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- Resolution: Accept issue 2389 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2399 - provide greater support for people with cognitive, language or reading difficulties
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- Resolution: Accept issue 2399 as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2405 - Potential consequences of success criterion 3.2.5 are too severe for "AAA"
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- Action: David to draft understanding doc note re: "initiated only by user request"
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2405 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2415 - Additional failure technique needed
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2415 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2418 - Technique G142 Insufficient
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- Resolution: Accept issue 2418 as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2421 - Conformance Level wrong for SC 2.2.2
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- q+
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- ack Sofia
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- + +1.617.584.aabb
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- Resolution: re: issue 2421 to leave 2.2.2 at AA and reopen for response
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- Topic: Issue 2471 - SC 2.4.5: sweeping generalisation?
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2471 as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2474 - ambiguous if not clear from context already?
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2474 as proposed
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- Topic: Issues 2465, 2501 - User agents' incorrect behaviour while navigating sequentially
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- q+ to say I never thought forcing users to use multiple browsers was part of accessibility supported
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- ack Michael
- 22:12:57 [Zakim]
- MichaelC, you wanted to say I never thought forcing users to use multiple browsers was part of accessibility supported
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- q+
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- ack Ben
- 22:14:24 [rellero]
- 06https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93149
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- Resolution: accept response to issues 2465, 2501 as amended
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 2 closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 3. Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2kcvnf> [from Ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2kcvnf>" taken up [from Ben]
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- Topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008
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- Topic: Issue 2391 - meaningful and logical sequence
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2391 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2443 - 200% seems too ambitious
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2443 as proposed
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- -Drew
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- Topic: Issue 2451 - HTML Version of Understanding WCAG with semantic classes and IDs
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2451 as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2486 - It is unclear if SC 3.1.5 is testable.
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2486 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2508 - Contrast ratio (on text edges)
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2508 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2546 - 80 characters
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- Action: David to ensure that we have a reference that discusses the 80 characters
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- Resolution: accept response to 2546 as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2587- C17- Technique also works in Firefox
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2587 as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2591 - Progress Bar
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2591 as proposed
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- -Tim_Boland
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- scribe: David_MacDonald
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- Topic: 2588
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- Resolution: accept 2588 unanimous
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- Topic: 2393
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack andi
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- ack d
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- q+
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- q+
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- q-
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- q+ sean
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- ack d
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- q+
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- ack s
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- q+
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- ack d
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- ack l
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- ack l
- 23:37:24 [David_MacDonald]
- Action: Gregg, Sean, to work on rewrite of 1.1 and will bring back to the group
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- resolution: leave 2393 open... rewrite coming from Gregg and Sean
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- ack b
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- Topic: Issue 2490: Proposed substantive change to media accessibility
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- -Alex_Li
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- Resolution: respond to 2490 as amended...
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -Sean_Hayes
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- -Cooper
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Gregg_and_Ben
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Alex_Li, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, +1.410.757.aaaa, Drew, Sean_Hayes, David_MacDonald, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Gregg_and_Ben,
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- ... Sofia_Celic, Roberto_Ellero, Nikolaos_Floratos, Katie_Haritos-Shea, +1.617.584.aabb, Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- 02:03:38 [Zakim]
- restarting shortly to install an urgent fix
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- /msg ralph if a restart now will cause you major inconvenience