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20:59:59 <Ben> RRSAgent, do not start a new log
21:00:05 <Ben> RRSAgent, make log world
21:00:09 <Ben> zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
21:00:09 <Zakim> ok, Ben, I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM already started
21:00:15 <Ben> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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21:00:22 <Ben> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0097.html
21:00:26 <Ben> Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:00:27 <Zakim> +Cooper
21:00:32 <Ben> ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
21:00:36 <Ben> Regrets: Roberto_Scano
21:00:42 <Ben> agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
21:00:47 <Ben> agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2rquw6>
21:00:52 <Ben> agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2kcvnf>
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21:01:29 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:01:44 <Zakim> + +1.410.757.aaaa
21:02:03 <Drew> zakim, +1.410 is Drew
21:02:03 <Zakim> +Drew; got it
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21:02:29 <Zakim> +Sean_Hayes
21:02:38 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
21:02:39 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:02:42 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
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21:02:52 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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21:04:53 <Ben> scribe: Tim
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21:05:12 <rellero> 06zakim, ??P10 is Roberto_Ellero01
21:05:24 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
21:05:35 <Tim> Topic: Announcements, Questions, and Updates
21:05:42 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
21:05:42 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben]
21:06:02 <Zakim> +??P12
21:07:51 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:07:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Alex_Li, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Drew, Sean_Hayes, David_MacDonald, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly, Gregg_and_Ben, Andi_Snow_Weaver,
21:07:55 <Zakim> ... Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, Nikolaos_Floratos
21:11:15 <Tim> ack Bruce
21:16:07 <Ben> zakim, close this item
21:16:07 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
21:16:08 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:16:09 <Zakim> 2. Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2rquw6> [from Ben]
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21:16:30 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 2
21:16:30 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2rquw6>" taken up [from Ben]
21:16:31 <Tim> Topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 21 Feb 2008
21:16:58 <Zakim> +??P13
21:17:12 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2389 - Cognitive Support
21:19:06 <Tim> Resolution: Accept issue 2389 as amended
21:19:46 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2399 - provide greater support for people with cognitive, language or reading difficulties
21:20:02 <Tim> Resolution: Accept issue 2399 as proposed
21:20:37 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2405 - Potential consequences of success criterion 3.2.5 are too severe for "AAA"
21:36:03 <Tim> Action: David to draft understanding doc note re: "initiated only by user request"
21:41:28 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2405 as amended
21:42:19 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2415 - Additional failure technique needed
21:43:14 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2415 as amended
21:43:38 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2418 - Technique G142 Insufficient
21:43:59 <Tim> Resolution: Accept issue 2418 as proposed
21:45:05 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2421 - Conformance Level wrong for SC 2.2.2
21:47:38 <Sofia> q+
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21:49:50 <Tim> ack Sofia
21:52:09 <Zakim> + +1.617.584.aabb
21:55:31 <Tim> Resolution: re: issue 2421 to leave 2.2.2 at AA and reopen for response 
21:55:57 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2471 - SC 2.4.5: sweeping generalisation?
21:59:43 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2471 as proposed 
22:00:11 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2474 - ambiguous if not clear from context already?
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22:05:20 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2474 as proposed
22:05:53 <Tim> Topic: Issues 2465, 2501 - User agents' incorrect behaviour while navigating sequentially
22:11:20 <MichaelC> q+ to say I never thought forcing users to use multiple browsers was part of accessibility supported
22:12:57 <Tim> ack Michael
22:12:57 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say I never thought forcing users to use multiple browsers was part of accessibility supported
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22:13:15 <Ben> q+
22:13:23 <Tim> ack Ben
22:14:24 <rellero> 06https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93149
22:23:59 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:25:20 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
22:27:04 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issues 2465, 2501 as amended
22:27:43 <Ben> zakim, close this item
22:27:43 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
22:27:44 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
22:27:45 <Zakim> 3. Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2kcvnf> [from Ben]
22:27:49 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 3
22:27:49 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2kcvnf>" taken up [from Ben]
22:27:51 <Tim> Topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 28 Feb 2008
22:28:27 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2391 - meaningful and logical sequence
22:29:46 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2391 as amended
22:30:25 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2443 - 200% seems too ambitious
22:31:23 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2443 as proposed
22:31:49 <Zakim> -Drew
22:31:58 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2451 - HTML Version of Understanding WCAG with semantic classes and IDs
22:32:12 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2451 as proposed
22:32:34 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2486 - It is unclear if SC 3.1.5 is testable.
22:40:54 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2486 as amended 
22:41:19 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2508 - Contrast ratio (on text edges)
22:41:44 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2508 as amended
22:42:10 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2546 - 80 characters
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22:49:15 <Tim> Action: David to ensure that we have a reference that discusses the 80 characters
22:50:12 <Zakim> -Roberto_Ellero
22:53:48 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to 2546 as proposed
22:54:14 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2587- C17- Technique also works in Firefox
22:54:30 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2587 as proposed
22:54:54 <Tim> Topic: Issue 2591 - Progress Bar
22:59:49 <Tim> Resolution: accept response to issue 2591 as proposed
23:00:03 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
23:00:19 <Ben> scribe: David_MacDonald
23:00:34 <David_MacDonald> Topic: 2588
23:01:44 <David_MacDonald> Resolution: accept 2588 unanimous
23:01:52 <David_MacDonald> Topic: 2393
23:10:09 <Andi> q+
23:10:24 <David_MacDonald> q+
23:12:35 <Loretta> ack andi
23:23:30 <GreggVan> ack d
23:23:41 <David_MacDonald> q+
23:23:42 <Loretta> q+
23:24:24 <Loretta> q-
23:24:51 <Loretta> q+ sean
23:27:25 <GreggVan> ack d
23:27:38 <Loretta> q+
23:28:11 <GreggVan> ack s
23:30:36 <David_MacDonald> q+
23:33:21 <GreggVan> ack d
23:33:21 <Loretta> ack l
23:33:26 <GreggVan> ack l
23:37:24 <David_MacDonald> Action: Gregg, Sean, to work on rewrite of 1.1 and will bring back to the group
23:38:35 <David_MacDonald> resolution: leave 2393 open... rewrite coming from Gregg and Sean
23:40:10 <Loretta> ack b
23:42:45 <David_MacDonald> Topic: Issue 2490: Proposed substantive change to media accessibility
23:50:59 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
23:53:48 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
00:01:49 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
00:02:18 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
00:02:42 <David_MacDonald> Resolution: respond to 2490 as amended...
00:06:47 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
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00:06:58 <Zakim> -Gregg_and_Ben
00:06:59 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
00:07:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Alex_Li, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, +1.410.757.aaaa, Drew, Sean_Hayes, David_MacDonald, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Gregg_and_Ben,
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02:03:38 <Zakim> restarting shortly to install an urgent fix
02:04:31 <Zakim> /msg ralph if a restart now will cause you major inconvenience