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<scribe> scribe: Jack
<scribe> ScribeNick: Jack
<achuter> It's me
<scribe> Agenda: http:// http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2008JanMar/0040.html
Shawn: Planning to publish next Tuesday. Initial 1st draft is done
Alan: Reviews his suggestions
<scribe> ACTION: Shawn mobile messaging - look at text pattern [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action01]
Wayne: the punch line is burried in the W3C news to the end and should be higher
Shawn: If we can't put it in a list, can we remove the link to Experriences shared by people with disabilities and People Using Mobile Devices
Wayne remove it
Shawn: Any suggestions for a heading of WAI Highlights
Existing phrase - Accessible and Mobile: Two Birds with One Stone - works for most people
Alternative - Buy one get one free
Another alternative -Accessibile and Mobile - Synergy Rules
<shawn> questionnaire for WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/WCAG20-11Dec12008/results
<newnick> scribenick: newnew
<shawn> ACTION: shawn - wcag 2.0 comments: for 1.1.1 add reason "the rationale isn't included with the other SC" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action02]
<newnick> scribenick: newnick
<shawn> ACTION: shawn - wcag 2.0 comments: for Guideline 1.1 add reason "the rationale isn't included with the other Guidelines or SC" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action03]
<shawn> Success Criteria 3.1.5 violates academic freedom on my opinion and could not be practiced by universities.
Wayne: academic community can not comply with this as being AAA
<shawn> 3.1.5 Reading Level: When text requires reading ability more advanced than the lower secondary education level, supplemental content, or a version that does not require reading ability more advanced than the lower secondary education level, is available. (Level AAA)
<shawn> 1.2.5 Sign language interpretation is provided for prerecorded synchronized media. (Level AAA)
Wayne: Will send in the comment on his own
Helle: Other communities will also have a problem complying
doyle: accessibility should include things like Shakespeare, physics, etc.
<andrew> zakiim, aacc is andrew
Shawn: since there is not agreement in EOWG we will have Wayne submit the comment individually
EOWG Comments on WCAG 2.0 Supporting Documents
<shawn> Results of Questionnaire EOWG Comments on WCAG 2.0 Supporting Documents, 11 December 2008 Draft
Wayne: How will new techniques get into the understanding documents?
Shawn: Plan is to have updates on
a regular basis - yearly perhaps
... Let's talk about customization options
Agree on the ability to turn off HTML
Shawn: Let's talk about Title, does title work
<shawn> Implementation Guide
Lisa: the title WCAG 2.0 Quick Reference is OK, though a Quick Reference does tend to be shorter
William: the title implies Quick Reference but the document really deals with customization
<shawn> Customizeable Reference
<andrew> for previous discussion see minutes May 2007 - http://www.w3.org/2007/05/18-eo-minutes#item03 - but I think we want 13/Apr, but missing
Perhaps WCAG 2.0 Interactive Reference
Doyle: Simple, multipart reference
Lisa: is there anything similiar that we could use
Shadi: it is a checklist
Perhaps -Personal Interactive Checklist
Perhaps - WCAG 2.0 Personal Interactive Reference
Doyle: would insert phrase 'make
your document' rather than checklist
... Building Reference Tool
<lisap> Guide to Applicable...?
Sylvia: depending on what you do with it, it can be used quickly
Doyle: Building _____ Quick Reference
Personalizing WCAG 2.0 Reference Documents
<andrew> here is the prevous discussion about the title - http://www.w3.org/2007/05/04-eo-minutes#item01
<lisap> Adjustable Guide to...
Adjusable Guide to WCAG 2.0
Ajustable Maps to WCAG 2.0
<shawn> Customizable Guide to WCAG 2.0
<shawn> Guide to Meeting WCAG 2.0
Ajustable Guide to Meeting WCAG 2.0
<shadi> Adjustable Guide to Meeting WCAG 2.0 (AGM WCAG 2.0)
<shawn> How to Meet WCAG 2.0
How to Meet WCAG 2.0
Many people like the title - How to Meet WCAG 2.0
Shawn: any objections to changing title to How to Meet WCAG 2.0?
<shawn> ACTION: shawn write up new title suggestion quick ref > How to Meet WCAG 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action04]
Shawn: Do we want to add a '
clear all' button?
... Please submit comments by next Wednesay so they can then be include in next week's teleconference.
Lisa: Provides update on status, timeframe, etc.
Wayne: Back to Quick Reference. Can HTML be turned off>
Shawn: Problem with holes when you do so.
<shawn> jack, here are instructions for cleaning up the minutes: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2003/template.html#during & the next section
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