W3C

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EOWG

18 Jan 2008

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shawn, Jack, Wayne, Andrew, Sylvia, Shadi, William, Helle, Lisa, Doyle, Allen, Justin
Regrets
Judy, Helle, Henny
Chair
Shawn Henry
Scribe
Jack

Contents


 

 

<scribe> scribe: Jack

<scribe> ScribeNick: Jack

<achuter> It's me

<scribe> Agenda: http:// http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2008JanMar/0040.html

Messaging Mobile-Accessibility Overlap documents

<shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/highlights/planning#highlights

Shawn: Planning to publish next Tuesday. Initial 1st draft is done

Alan: Reviews his suggestions

<achuter> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2008JanMar/0045.html

<scribe> ACTION: Shawn mobile messaging - look at text pattern [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action01]

<shawn> http://www.w3.org/News/Overview.html

Wayne: the punch line is burried in the W3C news to the end and should be higher

Shawn: If we can't put it in a list, can we remove the link to Experriences shared by people with disabilities and People Using Mobile Devices

Wayne: would

Wayne remove it

Shawn: Any suggestions for a heading of WAI Highlights

Existing phrase - Accessible and Mobile: Two Birds with One Stone - works for most people

Alternative - Buy one get one free

Another alternative -Accessibile and Mobile - Synergy Rules

WCAG 2.0 Review

<shawn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2008JanMar/

<shawn> questionnaire for WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/WCAG20-11Dec12008/results

<newnick> scribenick: newnew

<shawn> ACTION: shawn - wcag 2.0 comments: for 1.1.1 add reason "the rationale isn't included with the other SC" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action02]

<newnick> scribenick: newnick

<shawn> ACTION: shawn - wcag 2.0 comments: for Guideline 1.1 add reason "the rationale isn't included with the other Guidelines or SC" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action03]

<andrew> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2008JanMar/0041.html

<shawn> Success Criteria 3.1.5 violates academic freedom on my opinion and could not be practiced by universities.

<shawn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2008JanMar/0049.html

Wayne: academic community can not comply with this as being AAA

<shawn> 3.1.5 Reading Level: When text requires reading ability more advanced than the lower secondary education level, supplemental content, or a version that does not require reading ability more advanced than the lower secondary education level, is available. (Level AAA)

<shawn> 1.2.5 Sign language interpretation is provided for prerecorded synchronized media. (Level AAA)

Wayne: Will send in the comment on his own

Helle: Other communities will also have a problem complying

doyle: accessibility should include things like Shakespeare, physics, etc.

<andrew> zakiim, aacc is andrew

Shawn: since there is not agreement in EOWG we will have Wayne submit the comment individually

<shawn> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/wcag20-22Dec-support/results

EOWG Comments on WCAG 2.0 Supporting Documents

<shawn> Results of Questionnaire EOWG Comments on WCAG 2.0 Supporting Documents, 11 December 2008 Draft

EOWG Comments on WCAG 2.0 Supporting Documents

Wayne: How will new techniques get into the understanding documents?

Shawn: Plan is to have updates on a regular basis - yearly perhaps
... Let's talk about customization options

Agree on the ability to turn off HTML

Shawn: Let's talk about Title, does title work

<shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/

<shawn> Implementation Guide

Lisa: the title WCAG 2.0 Quick Reference is OK, though a Quick Reference does tend to be shorter

William: the title implies Quick Reference but the document really deals with customization

<shawn> Customizeable Reference

<andrew> for previous discussion see minutes May 2007 - http://www.w3.org/2007/05/18-eo-minutes#item03 - but I think we want 13/Apr, but missing

<shawn> Interactive

Perhaps WCAG 2.0 Interactive Reference

Doyle: Simple, multipart reference

Lisa: is there anything similiar that we could use

Shadi: it is a checklist

Perhaps -Personal Interactive Checklist

Perhaps - WCAG 2.0 Personal Interactive Reference

Doyle: would insert phrase 'make your document' rather than checklist
... Building Reference Tool

<lisap> Guide to Applicable...?

Sylvia: depending on what you do with it, it can be used quickly

Doyle: Building _____ Quick Reference

<shawn> Personalizing...

Personalizing WCAG 2.0 Reference Documents

<shawn> Tayloring...

<shawn> Adjustable

Alter

<andrew> here is the prevous discussion about the title - http://www.w3.org/2007/05/04-eo-minutes#item01

<lisap> Adjustable Guide to...

Adjusable Guide to WCAG 2.0

Ajustable Maps to WCAG 2.0

<shawn> Customizable Guide to WCAG 2.0

<shawn> Guide to Meeting WCAG 2.0

Ajustable Guide to Meeting WCAG 2.0

<shadi> Adjustable Guide to Meeting WCAG 2.0 (AGM WCAG 2.0)

<shawn> How to Meet WCAG 2.0

How to Meet WCAG 2.0

Many people like the title - How to Meet WCAG 2.0

Shawn: any objections to changing title to How to Meet WCAG 2.0?

no objections

<shawn> ACTION: shawn write up new title suggestion quick ref > How to Meet WCAG 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action04]

Shawn: Do we want to add a ' clear all' button?
... Please submit comments by next Wednesay so they can then be include in next week's teleconference.

WAI-ARIA Update

Update on WAI ARIA documents

Lisa: Provides update on status, timeframe, etc.

Wayne: Back to Quick Reference. Can HTML be turned off>

Shawn: Problem with holes when you do so.

<shawn> jack, here are instructions for cleaning up the minutes: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2003/template.html#during & the next section

Thanks Shawn.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: shawn - wcag 2.0 comments: for 1.1.1 add reason "the rationale isn't included with the other SC" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: shawn - wcag 2.0 comments: for Guideline 1.1 add reason "the rationale isn't included with the other Guidelines or SC" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Shawn mobile messaging - look at text pattern [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: shawn write up new title suggestion quick ref > How to Meet WCAG 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/18-eo-minutes.html#action04]
 
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