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Susie: Dunja, Paula to give an update on the SW flyer
Dunja: Ian, Ivan, Paula, Dunja had a telecon yesterday
... talked about the 2nd page
Ivan: and the figures!
Dunja: we try to find a good story that make people to read further the flyer
... Ivan sent a couple of example stories as input
... decided to leave the image with the eye out
... and also the layer cake
... not sure if this is a good idea
... also want to make a mockup for next week's call
Susie: good idea to have a mockup
... it helps identifying how much space we have
Dunja: I try to work on the content too
Ivan: not sure about attending EBRC 2007
... we should record that we've agreed on the slogan
Susie: 'Data unleashed' as slogan
+1
Susie: next agenda item - Logos
Susie: Bengee sent out an email on a update
Bengee: not that much news on the logos
... was not sure about the strategy to follow
... I added a new version for the logo...a graph-like
... no news from GRDDL or RDFa groups
... waiting at moment for the Comm Team input
... Ivan proposed to have one version for the Comm Team to review
Ivan: comment on RDFa
... they have something different in mind
... adding RDFa much like the case of HTML
... for the GRDDL case, we should wait for a reply
... we'll have a separate call on discussing the logos
... organize a Comm Team meeting after deciding on one logo proposal
Bengee: imput from a designer to eliminate a couple of them
Susie: for the slogan we had a consensus
... is there a consensus also for the logo?
... 1 and 4 are my preferences
<leobard> urls please :-)
Bengee: number 7
http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Logos
Bengee: 9 is not bad, I like also 2, 6 is too abstract
... there are at least 3 or 4, which I'd take out
Susie: we could do that and put the ones we like most on top
Ivan: Dunja, do you think you can show to your designer the logos? just for a feedback
Bengee: should we decide now which one we can take out?
Ivan: 2 and 6
... 5 also
Susie: how about 8?
Ivan: 8 and 9 are somehow similar
Susie: keep 1, not 2
... how about 3?
Dunja: I can't see anything in 3
Susie: 3 is not in the short list
... keep 4
... keep 5, 7, 9
Ivan: visually speaking I like 7
Susie: agree with Ivan, but S is not that clear
Ivan: discuss this issue further on the mailinglist
Susie: Bengee, do you think you cand send out an email to start the discussion?
Bengee: should we first rearrange them?
Susie: feedback just on the short list
Bengee: ok
Ivan: I did contact many people to see whether they are interested
... e.g. Siemens, Dow Jones
... they might be interested
... also contacted HP from the Jena group...talked with Jeremy
... Susie and I contacted the same person at Elsevier
... might get some input from them too
... nice addition if we could get som input during the next 3-4 weeks
Leo: the redirect works, graphics work, RSS doesn't work yet
... we continue to test it
... waiting for designs for the portal
Bengee: I took the SW Activity web page as a guideline for a design proposal
<bengee> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/PortalPlans/Designs
Bengee: based on last week's discussion
<leobard> looks good, I think we can start with this.
Ivan: the only thing I have is a legal issue...we need to put on the bottom something on the W3C copyright
... it is not a graphical design problem, but which is the best policy about it
Leo: which problem do you mention?
Ivan: the system is based on the fact that you have CC statements for the data....but it might be the case that this will not work
Ivan gives a concrete example on this
Leo: we have to solve this offline
Ivan: we have a problem and we should probably solve it offline
... maybe the system should add CC to the data somehow
... we already had a discussion with the OpenLink group
Leo: we planned not to build a software from scratch
... we should evaluate some systems, as base for our choice
Ivan: the tool should easily generate SPARQL queries
... and make a suitable output of the queries' results
Leo presents his solution to this
Leo: we should make a couple of suggestions on the wiki
... I'll send an email for inviting you to comment these suggestions
<uldis> revyu is from Tom Heath
<MartinD> revyu's a bit different target
Leo: the system is based on RDF but not finished yet
Uldis: revyu looks quite well developed
... we can ask Tom
Leo: no more comments
<uldis> Uldis: we have experience w. Drupal. will add information to the wiki where appropriate.
<leobard> please ask tom, he is cool, btw: i have a revyu account, it works, but its very alpha
Kjetilk: I don't really have updates on the projects
<uldis> leobard: was talking w. Tom recently. what is the exact question(s) we need to ask him?
<uldis> if his system can be used as an engine for infogathering portal?
Susie: next item - Conferences
... the conference Web site is not up to date anymore
... it would be good to have infos on conferences on the site, such as to be able to submit papers
... unfortunately, our paper was not accepted at VLDB
... SW Strategy as a new (series of) conferences
... deadline for paper submission is end of this week
<LeeF> Bob DuCharme organizing Semantic Web Strategies conference
Susie: Next F2F
... are there suggestions on the location and time of the next F2F?
... not really a good idea to colocate it with ISWC
... since it is in Korea and the Tech Plenary is also in November
... would be good to have the meeting in the Boston area
Paula on the next F2F of the W3C RIF WG
it is not clear when it is going to be for the POWDER group
Susie: other meetings might be planned for November
... no need to meet in July
... August is also not that good
... beginning of October would be probably good, in the Boston area
Ivan: workshop on SPARQL on 25-26 of October...we could try to colocate our meeting with this workshop
<MartinD> time sounds good
Susie: I'll send an email on this to see what people think
Dunja: full day meeting or just a couple of hours
Susie: full day meeting
... AOB?
Kjetilk: Semantic Desktop - desktop environments on Linux KDE - RDF-based requierments for the next version
... might be one interesting use case
Susie: is this basically a tool?
Kjetilk: yes, it enables KDE to integrate everything with RDF
... many applications would benefit from it
Susie: who would write such a use case?
Ivan: ideally those who did it
<uldis> it's a part of the Nepomuk project, i think
Kjetilk: Leo might be involved
... I could contact them
Susie: I propose to adjourn
... thank you!
