W3C

ERT WG

22 Nov 2006

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Shadi, David, Johannes, Chris, Daniela, CarlosI
Regrets
CarlosV
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
David

Contents


sequences in the HTTP vocabulary

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Oct/0017

shadi: how to reconr sequences of headers that are sent and recoieved from the server

johannesk: summarises his email - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Oct/0017

shadi: the sequence of values is very important
... not sure the importance of sequence in which headers of different types occur

<shadi> ACTION: saz add an editors note in the WD asking for feedback on potential conflict regarding sequence of *different* header types [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-minutes.html#action01]

<CarlosI> probably sequence is not relevant for our use case in both cases but...

<CarlosI> if we wont the HTTP in RDF vocabulary to be stand-alone...

<CarlosI> I think both sequences could be relevant for other use cases

shadi: HTTP protocol makes no assumption on the order of headers

<JohannesK> "Header: Value1\nHeader: Value2" should result in "Header: Value1, Value2"

proposed resolution: in earl, sequence of values should be flattened out into comma seperated string

RESOLUTION: in earl, sequence of values within the same request/response should be flattened out into comma seperated string

shadi: the other scenario - sequence of multiple requests/responses between client and server

<CarlosI> e.g. content negotiation

<CarlosI> several request and response before getting any content

johannesK: record every piece of content seperately in a webcontent class and combine them together

<CarlosI> but if you want to exactly reproduce the same conditions you need to record all the sequence

johannesK: redirects could be captured in individual webcontent classes
... e.g. redirect = a->b->c, we could capture a,b & c as individual webcontent classes

<CarlosI> and what are the subjects?

<JohannesK> ACTION: jk to write down some thoughts about his proposal of recording 1. simple request/response pair, 2. content negotiation, 3. redirect [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-minutes.html#action02]

additional validity level values

shadi: summarizes discussion thus far

davidr: proposes the introduction of a warning property within the result class

<CarlosI> f

<CarlosI> have always thought warnings are QA bad practices in general

<Daniela> sorry, have to leave a bit earlier today ...

johannesK: chaals raised the point, what kind of warning it is?

<CarlosI> not sure if we should support themm in EARL

<CarlosI> they are a can of worms

<CarlosI> almost each warning is unique

<CarlosI> proposal:

<CarlosI> use always one of the current values: pass, fail, etc.

<CarlosI> then...

<CarlosI> we can add a new warning class you can use

<CarlosI> but not associated with any specific value

<CarlosI> yes

<CarlosI> you use alway one of the current values

<CarlosI> and you can additionally provide a warning

<CarlosI> imposible to star working on it until next tuesday

<CarlosI> ok

<CarlosI> ACTION: CarlosI to summarize his proposal about warnings on the mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-minutes.html#action03]

<CarlosI> bye

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: CarlosI to summarize his proposal about warnings on the mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: jk to write down some thoughts about his proposal of recording 1. simple request/response pair, 2. content negotiation, 3. redirect [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: saz add an editors note in the WD asking for feedback on potential conflict regarding sequence of *different* header types [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-minutes.html#action01]
 
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