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EOWG - 15 September 2006

Attendees

Present
Wayne_Dick, Doyle_Saylor, Harvey_Bingham, Judy_Brewer, Shawn_Henry, Henny_Swan, Jack_Welsh, Alan_Chuter, Andrew_Arch, Sylvie_Duchateau, Justin_Thorp, Helle_Bjarno, Natasha(second half)
Regrets
Pasquale, Popolizio
Chair
Judy
Scribe
Wayne

Contents


Ingredients of Web Accessibility

Shawn: The draft is rough, and images are rough, this is a concept overviews
... There five questions in the agenda. a) Finding a more friendly word than "components"

Finding a more friendly word than Components

Group Brainstorm: Tool, Core, foundations, fundamentals, pillars, building blocks,

Judy: Which terms translate?

alan: Core will not translate well in Spanish

<shawn> (Helle agrees with Natasha's email)

Helle: There are no Danish translations

Shawn: This is a companion piece, and we must decide if we change from the "components" document or keep it basically the same.

Alan: Components seem to work for him, why should we change?

Judy: In presentations the term component has not connected until the term has been explained.

Doyle: Components do work from him.

<Harvey> components [or building blocks]

Judy: Should we stick with components?

Group: Most want to stay with the terms.

Judy: [Has serious reservations] Perhaps add a parenthetical (building block) with components on the first occurrence.

<judy> ACTION: resume use of "components" (instead of "ingredients") but the first time it's used, add the term "building blocks" in parenthesis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-eo-minutes.html#action01]

<shawn> http://www.w3.org/Talks/wai-components/all-extended.htm

Shawn: Reference the first slide in the new slides: Consider alternatives to the original word "Essential"

<shawn> "Essential"? "Integral"? Currently already have "vital" and "crucial"

Shawn: Is "essential" necessary --- just use "components".

Group: Just leave "components"...

In Slide 9: Assistive Technologies Getting Web Content

Wayne: There are several renderings of the show; and many do not have slides or the entire show... Display problem

Shawn: We currently have an informal definition of assistive technology. Should we link to the official definition but not on this page?

Group: No objections...

Shawn: Now consider "Evaluation tools in creating web content"
... Is there an advantage to creating links to the WAI list of evaluation tools?

Justin: Summarizes group opinion - should point to the evaluation tools.

Shawn: Should we point to the tools list or to list and the selecting tools document?

Group: Just point to the list.

Shawn: Could like from the word "evaluation tools" directly or should we make a more explicit link.

<judy> ACTION: in the evaluation slide, add a link to the tools list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-eo-minutes.html#action02]

Group: Add an explicit link instead of linking from the word "evaluation tools".

Shawn: In the sentence: "Web developers use authoring tools and evaluation tools..." do we need the term usually because authors sometimes don't use evaluation tools.

Group: Usually is not needed.

Shawn: Should we change from the term slide because this is a self study set of topics?

<shawn> Components for Web Accessibility: A Walk-Through

Judy: Do people agree this could be a confusion to call these slides? Would this imply presentation

Jack: Would cause confusion...

Andrew: If they are one by one then ... they are slides.

Judy: One possibility is self-study, self-study slides...

<Harvey> Self-study sets of materials

Judy: When complete people will land on a series of single pages like slides.

Sylvie: The word curriculum

Shawn: Tutorial

Sylve: [Use a term to capture educational]

Group: Prefers tutorial to curriculum...

Shawn: Lesson...

<shawn> course

Judy: Lecture is used in online instruction...

shawn: course

Jack: Slide notes, presentation notes...

<shawn> session

Jack: Tutorial, course add too much robustness...It would be misleading.

<Andrew> Definition: tutorial - a session of intensive tuition given by a tutor to an individual or to a small number of students

Jack: (responding to Judy) A tutorial would be more interactive, more extensive. This is good but it is notes that go along with a curriculum.. Leaning toward self study...

Shawn: The intension is self study, not lecture notes for presentation...

Swan: bite-sized tutorial... mini... small

Judy: It might be more inviting a term may be use a term like mini, bite-size...

<Harvey> Introduction to web accessibility

Jack: Manageable... scoped...

<shawn> Components for Web Accessibility: A Walk-Through

Shawn: Walk through.... "title"... a walk through

William: step trough...

<shawn> Components for Web Accessibility: A Walk-Through Overview

Natasha: Walk through does not translate well...

<shawn> tutorial slides... mini-tutorial

Judy: Go around the room for preferred for terms..

William: tutorial

Harvey: tutorial

Wayne and Doyle: mini tutorial

Swan: mini tutorial

sylvie: mini tutorial

jack and andrew: self study slides or mini tutorial

Helle: mini tutorial

Natasha: Tutorial slides...

Shawn: not sure

Judy: mini tutorial ... think a while.

<Harvey> Tutorial slide sets

<shawn> Please brainstorm: a modifier for slides, other than self-study

Shawn: Could we have an alternative to "Tutorial Slides"

<shawn> ACTION: change to Mini-Tutorial for now, leave in changelog for further consideration [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-eo-minutes.html#action03]

Judy: Mini tutorial was the leading preference but we need to think. not consensus, but leading

<shawn> wayne: accessibility issue: "slide" confuses presentation & content. some people would want to look at it as a single document, rather than "slides"

<shawn> judy: if use "slide" then biasing way you look at it

Wayne: Accessibility of slides... does this confuse presentation with content

Judy: Ensure the format is flexible and use neutral term

Justin: Slides tent to imply proprietary slide formats...

<judy> consensus: make sure that the format is flexible for different needs; and that the title of the material is format-neutral (e.g., don't use the term "slides" in the title)

Additional issues that stand out as concerns, issues, impressions...

Sylve: There is a repeated sentence at the start of multiple slides:

Shawn: the repeated text is to talk about the same item in different contexts.

Shawn

Jack: When we change the display they don't need to be parallel

Judy: [the visual complexity interferes with processing... it is too much]

Availability

<shawn> availability 22 Sept

<Andrew> Andrew: available

<justin> Justin: maybe

Shawn: 22 September

<Henny> Henny: maybe

<Helle> Helle: Regrets

Doyle: Available

William: Available

<judy> Judy: Regrets (regretfully)

Sylvie: Available

<Harvey> available

<Jack> Jack - 22nd not available

<shawn> availability 29 Sept

available

<Jack> Jack - available

<justin> Justin: Maybe

<Henny> Henny: maybe

Shawn: 29 September

<Andrew> andrew: not available

<Helle> Helle: available

Doyle: Available

Sylvie: Available

<Harvey> 29 harvey available

William: Available

regrets

<Andrew> andrew: regrets

Wayne: regrets
... regrets
... available

I tried to edit, and failed: regrets for 29 Sept

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: change to Mini-Tutorial for now, leave in changelog for further consideration [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-eo-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: in the evaluation slide, add a link to the tools list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-eo-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: resume use of "components" (instead of "ingredients") but the first time it's used, add the term "building blocks" in parenthesis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-eo-minutes.html#action01]
 
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