IRC log of eow2 on 2006-08-14
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/08/14-eow2-irc
- 21:21:30 [shawn]
- zakim, this will be eow2
- 21:21:30 [Zakim]
- ok, shawn; I see WAI_EOWG(EOW2)5:30PM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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- WAI_EOWG(EOW2)5:30PM has now started
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- +David_MacDonald
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- +Loughborough
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- +Shawn
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- + +45.20.43.aaaa
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- +Andrew_Arch
- 21:30:26 [shawn]
- zakim, aaaa id helle
- 21:30:26 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'aaaa id helle', shawn
- 21:30:30 [shawn]
- zakim, aaaa is helle
- 21:30:30 [Zakim]
- +helle; got it
- 21:32:06 [shawn]
- zakim, who is here?
- 21:32:06 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Loughborough, Shawn, helle, Andrew_Arch
- 21:32:08 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Andrew, ben, hbj, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn
- 21:33:29 [Zakim]
- +??P22
- 21:33:37 [ben]
- zakim, ??P22 is Ben
- 21:33:37 [Zakim]
- +Ben; got it
- 21:36:22 [David]
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- +Wayne_Dick
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- scribe: David
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- Topic: process document
- 21:40:08 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 21:40:13 [David]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-process
- 21:40:35 [Andrew]
- zakim, +[IPcaller] is Henny
- 21:40:35 [Zakim]
- sorry, Andrew, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
- 21:40:46 [Andrew]
- zakim, IPcaller is Henny
- 21:40:46 [Zakim]
- +Henny; got it
- 21:41:01 [David]
- topic: transtion document
- 21:41:13 [David]
- topic: process
- 21:41:31 [shawn]
- zakim, who is here?
- 21:41:31 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Loughborough, Shawn, helle, Andrew_Arch, Ben, Wayne_Dick, Henny
- 21:41:33 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see David, Andrew, ben, hbj, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn
- 21:42:28 [David]
- zakim, who's making noise
- 21:42:28 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who's making noise', David
- 21:42:41 [David]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:42:52 [Zakim]
- David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: helle (19%), Andrew_Arch (60%), Wayne_Dick (4%), Henny (43%)
- 21:43:54 [David]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:44:05 [Zakim]
- David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_MacDonald (4%), Shawn (90%), helle (28%), Henny (26%)
- 21:44:27 [David]
- zakim, mute helle
- 21:44:27 [Zakim]
- helle should now be muted
- 21:44:43 [David]
- zakim, unmute helle
- 21:44:43 [Zakim]
- helle should no longer be muted
- 21:44:58 [David]
- zakim, mute Henny
- 21:44:58 [Zakim]
- Henny should now be muted
- 21:48:37 [shawn]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/02/AboutW3CSlides/images/documentProcess.png
- 21:53:35 [David]
- zakim, unmute Henny
- 21:53:35 [Zakim]
- Henny should no longer be muted
- 21:55:16 [shawn]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/w3c-process
- 21:55:24 [David]
- We looked at the diagram, still not under consensus, send back for review.
- 22:00:52 [David]
- some discussion about the tone. do we need to say consensus, braod based... shawn responds that there were change logs recommendations included those things.
- 22:03:11 [David]
- overall most say it is in a good direction
- 22:11:51 [David]
- Say somethng about them being stable and will be around for a while
- 22:13:48 [David]
- consent to remove content in the minutes "(To learn how these WAI guidelines fit in with Web development, see Essential Components of Web Accessibility, particularly the Guidelines for Different Components section.) "
- 22:16:00 [David]
- W3C Notes - play around with them to tighten up... say what notes not...
- 22:21:35 [David]
- kill "which are called WAI Resources]"
- 22:38:11 [David]
- need to make sure that that people feel welcome to submit only one comment...
- 22:43:59 [David]
- say "a working group" rather than "the working group"
- 22:51:09 [David]
- last call says that we formally have to respond to all comments... but other stages don't mention responses ..perhaps we should clarify what the resonse obligations are or ar not at other levels.
- 22:51:35 [David]
- gather imlementation experiences to jargonny...
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- s/imlementation/implimentations
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- no other comments, see also notes directly in the documents.
- 22:55:48 [David]
- topics: transition WCAG 1-2
- 22:56:30 [Zakim]
- -helle
- 23:00:33 [David]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/w3c-process
- 23:01:19 [David]
- basically it is good
- 23:01:21 [shawn]
- *rough* initial ideas: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/transition1to2/transition1to2
- 23:03:56 [David]
- I have to Go... thanks folks... need a new scribe...
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- -David_MacDonald
- 23:05:33 [ben]
- Topic: [EARLY ROUGH IDEAS] Managing the Transition from WCAG 1.0 to WCAG 2.0
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- scribe: ben
- 23:09:05 [ben]
- zakim, mute Andrew
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- Andrew_Arch should now be muted
- 23:14:41 [ben]
- BC: Is intro. information about why a transition might be appropriate / what the advantages and disadvantages are needed?
- 23:17:42 [shawn]
- ACTION: Henny, CHANGELOG: earlier in doc: information about why a transition might be appropriate / what the advantages and disadvantages are
- 23:24:27 [ben]
- questions to ask in review: 1) are there things I no longer need to do? 2.) are there new requirements? 3.) are there assumptions I've had that should change?
- 23:24:55 [ben]
- ... what is my current WCAG 1.0 conformance level?
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- -Andrew_Arch
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- -Loughborough
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- -Shawn
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- -Henny
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- -Ben
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- -Wayne_Dick
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- WAI_EOWG(EOW2)5:30PM has ended
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- Attendees were David_MacDonald, Loughborough, Shawn, +45.20.43.aaaa, Andrew_Arch, helle, Ben, Wayne_Dick, Henny