IRC log of hcls on 2006-03-23
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-hcls-irc
- 15:56:37 [em]
- zakim, this will be HCLS
- 15:56:37 [Zakim]
- ok, em; I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
- 15:57:14 [em]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Mar/0114.html
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- SW_HCLS()11:00AM has now started
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- Chair: EricN and TonyaH
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- Scribe: BrianG
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- + +1.301.435.aaaa
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- em has changed the topic to: hclsig mar 23 telecon - agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Mar/0114.html
- 15:57:51 [teds]
- back at ya!
- 15:58:03 [teds]
- eric, how do you get the * bit to go?
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- +Lee_Feigenbaum
- 15:58:32 [teds]
- "teds" does look plural.
- 15:58:37 [em]
- heh :)
- 15:58:39 [LeeF]
- zakim, Lee_Feigenbaum is me
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- +LeeF; got it
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- +Ted_Slater
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- LeeF has changed the topic to: hclsig mar 23 telecon - agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Mar/0114.html
- 16:00:14 [em]
- zakim, dial emiller-bos
- 16:00:14 [Zakim]
- ok, em; the call is being made
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- +Emiller
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- 16:00:29 [em]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:00:40 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +1.301.435.aaaa, LeeF, Ted_Slater, Emiller
- 16:00:54 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see gilmanb, Davide, eneumann, teds, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, em
- 16:01:35 [Zakim]
- +Brian_Gilman
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- +davide
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- +JimM
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- + +1.781.665.aabb
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- +??P21
- 16:02:05 [Zakim]
- +Eric_Neumann
- 16:02:07 [em]
- zakim, +1.781.665.aabb is EricN
- 16:02:11 [Zakim]
- +EricN; got it
- 16:02:25 [em]
- zakim, +1.781.665.aabb is Susie
- 16:02:25 [Zakim]
- sorry, em, I do not recognize a party named '+1.781.665.aabb'
- 16:02:34 [gilmanb]
- zakim, scribe is gilmanb
- 16:02:34 [Zakim]
- sorry, gilmanb, I do not recognize a party named 'scribe'
- 16:02:44 [em]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:02:44 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +1.301.435.aaaa, LeeF, Ted_Slater, Emiller, Brian_Gilman, davide, +1.732.594.aacc, EricN, ??P21, Eric_Neumann
- 16:02:47 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see gilmanb, Davide, eneumann, teds, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, em
- 16:03:00 [LeeF]
- Scribe: gilmanb
- 16:03:03 [em]
- zakim, +1.732.594.aacc is JimM
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- +JimM; got it
- 16:03:13 [em]
- zakim, EricN is SusieS
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- +SusieS; got it
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- -JimM
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- +TimC
- 16:04:18 [em]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:04:18 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +1.301.435.aaaa, LeeF, Ted_Slater, Emiller, Brian_Gilman, davide, SusieS, ??P21, Eric_Neumann, +1.617.947.aaee
- 16:04:21 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see gilmanb, Davide, eneumann, teds, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, em
- 16:05:06 [em]
- zakim, +1.617.947.aaee is TimC
- 16:05:06 [Zakim]
- +TimC; got it
- 16:05:11 [em]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:05:11 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +1.301.435.aaaa, LeeF, Ted_Slater, Emiller, Brian_Gilman, davide, SusieS, ??P21, Eric_Neumann, TimC
- 16:05:14 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see gilmanb, Davide, eneumann, teds, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, em
- 16:05:31 [Zakim]
- +Alan
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- convene 11:06 am
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- zakim, +1.301.435.aaa is KarenS
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- +KarenS; got it
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- + +3539151aacc
- 16:07:59 [em]
- zakim, +3539151aacc PatC
- 16:08:01 [Zakim]
- I don't understand '+3539151aacc PatC', em
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- -SusieS
- 16:08:12 [LeeF]
- zakim, +3539151aacc is PatC
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- sorry, LeeF, I do not recognize a party named '+3539151aacc'
- 16:08:14 [em]
- zakim, +3539151aacc is PatC
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- sorry, em, I do not recognize a party named '+3539151aacc'
- 16:08:30 [LeeF]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 16:08:35 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see KarenS, LeeF, Ted_Slater, Emiller, Brian_Gilman, davide, ??P21, Eric_Neumann, TimC, Alan, +3539151aaff
- 16:08:43 [LeeF]
- zakim, 3539151aaff is PatC
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- sorry, LeeF, I do not recognize a party named '3539151aaff'
- 16:09:13 [PatCroke]
- I am 35391
- 16:09:26 [em]
- zakim, +3539151aaff is PatCroke
- 16:09:26 [Zakim]
- +PatCroke; got it
- 16:09:27 [Zakim]
- +Vipul_Kashyap
- 16:09:29 [gilmanb]
- pick up where we last left - old business
- 16:09:49 [gilmanb]
- alan and tim put use case around reagents - use case has been posted on the wiki
- 16:10:08 [Zakim]
- +JimM
- 16:10:53 [gilmanb]
- next call is April 6th - no dissent
- 16:11:07 [gilmanb]
- new participants - Lee
- 16:11:42 [gilmanb]
- Lee makes intro: Sean's stand in right now - Internet technology group - working to build life sciences research workbench
- 16:11:52 [gilmanb]
- Making RDF DB as a "stack component"
- 16:12:01 [gilmanb]
- working with SWAN and Tim Clark
- 16:12:03 [em]
- Resolved: Next HCLSIG meeting April 6th; @@ who to scribe? @@
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- q
- 16:13:08 [vipul]
- q+
- 16:13:15 [vipul]
- +1 to thar
- 16:14:01 [gilmanb]
- would like to put use cases on top level of the wiki
- 16:14:05 [gilmanb]
- current use cases at http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGUseCases?action=show&redirect=HCLS%2FOntologyTaskForce%2FUseCases
- 16:14:19 [eneumann]
- q?
- 16:14:25 [em]
- ack vipul
- 16:14:27 [eneumann]
- ack vipul
- 16:14:30 [gilmanb]
- eric neumann asks to put use cases at the top level of the wiki
- 16:14:48 [gilmanb]
- vipul - all use cases should be put at a higher level +1
- 16:14:52 [gilmanb]
- brian +1
- 16:15:20 [gilmanb]
- vipul second issue - need to be specified
- 16:15:48 [eneumann]
- ack TimC
- 16:15:51 [gilmanb]
- vipul - use cases need to be specified - opinion -> use case does not define a solution they specify a problem
- 16:16:11 [vipul]
- I did not imply that
- 16:16:31 [eneumann]
- q?
- 16:18:00 [gilmanb]
- Vipul would like to have main area point at use cases in task forces
- 16:20:09 [em]
- q?
- 16:21:31 [gilmanb]
- Can we agree to point at use cases from the main part of the wiki?
- 16:21:43 [gilmanb]
- we don't need a governing body for the use cases
- 16:22:19 [gilmanb]
- Ideas -> tasks agenda item
- 16:22:36 [gilmanb]
- identify tasks that we can complete in the near term
- 16:22:43 [em]
- q?
- 16:22:55 [em]
- q+
- 16:23:01 [gilmanb]
- EN opens floor to discuss tasks
- 16:24:29 [gilmanb]
- EM - wants to talk about signing up for tasks on the wiki
- 16:24:41 [gilmanb]
- q+
- 16:24:58 [Zakim]
- - +1.732.594.aagg
- 16:24:59 [gilmanb]
- q?
- 16:25:00 [eneumann]
- ack em
- 16:26:04 [gilmanb]
- Susie thinks that people are starting to sign up for tasks
- 16:26:34 [gilmanb]
- em - what's happening with NCBI data?
- 16:26:53 [gilmanb]
- susie -> looking at tasks in detail and figuring out what to sign up for
- 16:27:43 [gilmanb]
- karen -> workshop going on immunology and ontologies
- 16:28:18 [em]
- q+
- 16:28:23 [eneumann]
- ack gilmanB
- 16:29:02 [em]
- q+ to note phone call are great, but please send discussions resolutions to the list and update the wiki
- 16:30:00 [eneumann]
- ack TimC
- 16:30:58 [vipul]
- very good question Tim!!!
- 16:31:05 [gilmanb]
- what is success of the task force and this group in general?
- 16:31:06 [vipul]
- q+
- 16:31:11 [gilmanb]
- asked by TimC
- 16:31:12 [teds]
- q+
- 16:31:28 [gilmanb]
- em -> W3C would like things to show up on the PR space
- 16:31:33 [gilmanb]
- woops
- 16:31:34 [LeeF]
- s/PR/TR/
- 16:31:36 [gilmanb]
- PR -> TR
- 16:32:13 [gilmanb]
- tasks forces create use cases, specifications, publications
- 16:33:32 [gilmanb]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/#mission
- 16:33:53 [eneumann]
- q?
- 16:35:40 [gilmanb]
- ack em
- 16:35:44 [Zakim]
- em, you wanted to note phone call are great, but please send discussions resolutions to the list and update the wiki
- 16:36:05 [vipul]
- q-
- 16:38:28 [eneumann]
- ack teds
- 16:39:41 [gilmanb]
- Need some practical/important "stuff" that we can produce for others and ourselves
- 16:40:23 [em]
- q-
- 16:41:20 [gilmanb]
- q+
- 16:41:51 [gilmanb]
- action: en and brian spell out ROI on the wiki
- 16:41:57 [eneumann]
- ack gilmanb
- 16:42:45 [gilmanb]
- q-
- 16:43:17 [gilmanb]
- action: Brian keeps discussion going with task forces and places names next to tasks on the wiki
- 16:43:37 [gilmanb]
- gadget discussion
- 16:43:51 [gilmanb]
- em - overview: history, use
- 16:44:13 [LeeF]
- http://simile.mit.edu/gadget/
- 16:44:52 [gilmanb]
- simile leverages semweb in a practical sense
- 16:45:15 [gilmanb]
- how do you build tools that make data integration easier
- 16:45:46 [gilmanb]
- how do we make XML collections easier to browse for semantic meaning
- 16:45:54 [gilmanb]
- gadget may help this issue
- 16:46:32 [gilmanb]
- rips through large collections of XML and provides some useful statistical analysis to get "emergent semantics" out of the corpus
- 16:46:58 [gilmanb]
- sounds like a structured nlp tool
- 16:47:38 [Davide]
- q+
- 16:47:47 [gilmanb]
- works for collections where you don't have access to the folks to define elements
- 16:47:50 [eneumann]
- ack Davide
- 16:48:04 [gilmanb]
- stats on schema or xml files?
- 16:48:21 [gilmanb]
- outputs stats for xml not DTD's/Schema
- 16:49:09 [gilmanb]
- em - question: What tasks that people no of about converging XML -> RDF?
- 16:49:25 [gilmanb]
- Davide -> XML -> RDF in BioRDF group/task force
- 16:49:37 [gilmanb]
- Davide -> NLP -> XML-> RDF
- 16:50:06 [gilmanb]
- q+
- 16:50:09 [eneumann]
- Possibly useful for converting CDISC XML -> RDF
- 16:51:15 [PatCroke]
- +1.
- 16:51:19 [PatCroke]
- Q+1
- 16:51:26 [PatCroke]
- q+1
- 16:51:33 [PatCroke]
- q+
- 16:52:42 [PatCroke]
- Does the NLP group subsume the Text to RDF task force ?
- 16:52:51 [eneumann]
- ack gilmanb
- 16:53:22 [LeeF]
- q-1
- 16:55:21 [Davide]
- the text to RDF task force is very welcome to join the NLP group, I wouldn't think in terms of susumption
- 16:56:32 [eneumann]
- ack PatCroke
- 16:57:18 [em]
- q?
- 16:58:06 [Davide]
- q+
- 17:00:13 [eneumann]
- ack Davide
- 17:01:26 [em]
- rrsagent, list actions?
- 17:01:26 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'list actions'
- 17:01:36 [em]
- rrsagent, actions?
- 17:01:36 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'actions'
- 17:01:42 [em]
- hmm
- 17:01:49 [Davide]
- brian?
- 17:01:50 [Zakim]
- -TimC
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- -Ted_Slater
- 17:01:59 [gilmanb]
- yes davide?
- 17:02:02 [Zakim]
- -Alan
- 17:02:04 [Davide]
- do you want to talk here
- 17:02:05 [Zakim]
- -??P21
- 17:02:07 [Zakim]
- -PatCroke
- 17:02:10 [Zakim]
- -KarenS
- 17:02:13 [teds]
- bye
- 17:02:14 [Zakim]
- -Vipul_Kashyap
- 17:02:16 [gilmanb]
- I actually don't have time today
- 17:02:17 [em]
- rrsagent, print actions?
- 17:02:17 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'print actions'
- 17:02:22 [Davide]
- ok let me nkow
- 17:02:25 [gilmanb]
- can we do it tomorrow?
- 17:02:25 [vipul]
- Eric .... can I talk to regarding ISWC 2006?
- 17:02:32 [em]
- sure
- 17:02:34 [gilmanb]
- RRSAgent: actions
- 17:02:34 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'actions', gilmanb. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:02:34 [Davide]
- yes, morning
- 17:02:35 [em]
- i'm still on phone
- 17:02:42 [PatCroke]
- \q
- 17:02:46 [em]
- zakim, who is here?
- 17:02:46 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see LeeF, Emiller, Brian_Gilman, davide, Eric_Neumann
- 17:02:47 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see vipul, PatCroke, gilmanb, Davide, eneumann, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, em
- 17:02:55 [LeeF]
- rrsagent, what are the actions?
- 17:02:55 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-hcls-actions.rdf :
- 17:02:55 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: en and brian spell out ROI on the wiki [1]
- 17:02:55 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-hcls-irc#T16-41-51
- 17:02:55 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Brian keeps discussion going with task forces and places names next to tasks on the wiki [2]
- 17:02:55 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-hcls-irc#T16-43-17
- 17:03:03 [eneumann]
- Vipul, I will get back to you after I speak with Karen
- 17:03:06 [LeeF]
- sure
- 17:03:32 [Zakim]
- -davide
- 17:03:38 [LeeF]
- "show actions" or "list action items" also should work ( http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent#actions ), ridiculously enough.
- 17:03:46 [em]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 17:03:46 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-hcls-minutes.html em
- 17:04:10 [PatCroke]
- quit
- 17:04:18 [em]
- zakim, who is here?
- 17:04:18 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see LeeF, Emiller, Brian_Gilman, Eric_Neumann
- 17:04:19 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see vipul, PatCroke, gilmanb, eneumann, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, em
- 17:05:07 [em]
- zakim, mute Eric_Neumann
- 17:05:07 [Zakim]
- Eric_Neumann should now be muted
- 17:07:41 [gilmanb]
- I need to go guys
- 17:07:43 [gilmanb]
- sorry
- 17:07:44 [gilmanb]
- bye bye
- 17:08:10 [Zakim]
- -Brian_Gilman
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- gilmanb has left #hcls
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- -Emiller
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- -LeeF
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- disconnecting the lone participant, Eric_Neumann, in SW_HCLS()11:00AM
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- SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.301.435.aaaa, LeeF, Ted_Slater, Emiller, Brian_Gilman, davide, JimM, Eric_Neumann, SusieS, TimC, Alan, KarenS, +3539151aacc, PatCroke, Vipul_Kashyap