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Comment LC-1999

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Commenter: Luca Passani <passani@eunet.no>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeContent Transformation Guidelines 1.0 Abstract Status of this Document Table of Contents Appendices 1 Introduction (Non-Normative) 1.1 Purpose 1.2 Audience 1.3 Scope 1.4 Summary of Requirements 2 Terminology (Normative) 2.1 Types of Proxy "A transparent proxy is a proxy that does not modify the req... A non-transparent proxy is a proxy that modifies the request... 2.2 Types of Transformation Restructuring content is a process whereby the original layo... Recoding content is a process whereby the layout of the cont... Optimizing content includes removing redundant white space,... 3 Conformance (Normative) 3.1 Classes of Product 3.2 Normative and Informative Parts 3.3 Normative Language for Conformance Requirements 3.4 Content Deployment Conformance 3.5 Transformation Deployment Conformance 4 Behavior of Components (Normative) 4.1 Proxy Forwarding of Request 4.1.1 Applicable HTTP Methods 4.1.2 no-transform directive in Request 4.1.3 Treatment of Requesters that are not Web browsers 4.1.4 Serving Cached Responses 4.1.5 Alteration of HTTP Header Values In this section, the concept of "Web site" is used (rather t... 4.1.5.1 Content Tasting 4.1.5.2 Avoiding "Request Unacceptable" Responses 4.1.5.3 User Selection of Restructured Experience 4.1.5.4 Sequence of Requests 4.1.5.5 Original Headers 4.1.6 Additional HTTP Headers 4.1.6.1 Proxy Treatment of Via Header 4.2 Server Response to Proxy 4.2.1 Use of HTTP 406 Status 4.2.2 Server Origination of Cache-Control: no-transform Including a Cache-Control: no-transform directive can disrup... 4.2.3 Varying Representations 4.2.3.1 Use of Vary HTTP Header 4.2.3.2 Indication of Intended Presentation Media Type of Representation 4.3 Proxy Forwarding of Response to User Agent 4.3.1 Receipt of Cache-Control: no-transform 4.3.2 Receipt of Warning: 214 Transformation Applied 4.3.3 Server Rejection of HTTP Request 4.3.4 Receipt of Vary HTTP Header 4.3.5 Link to "handheld" Representation 4.3.6 Proxy Decision to Transform 4.3.6.1 Alteration of Response 4.3.6.2 HTTPS Link Re-writing 5 Testing (Normative) A References B Example Transformation Interactions (Non-Normative) B.1 Basic Content Tasting by Proxy B.2 Optimization based on Previous Server Interaction B.3 Optimization based on Previous Server Interaction, Server has Changed its Operation B.4 Server Response Indicating that this Representation is Intended for the Target Device B.5 Server Response Indicating that another Representation is Intended for the Target Device C Applicability to Transforming Solutions which are Out of Scope (Non-Normative) D Scope for Future Work (Non-Normative) D.1 POWDER D.2 link HTTP Header D.3 Sources of Device Information D.4 Inter Proxy Communication D.5 Amendment to and Refinement of HTTP E Administrative Arrangements (Non-Normative) F Acknowledgments (Non-Normative)
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Comment:

- There should be restrictions over how short a page transcoders are
allowed to reformat. In no case should a page smaller than 10kb be
reformatted (ideally this threshold should be higher, but 10kb will make
it consistent with BT, so it would be a step in the right direction)

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WG Notes: See: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/20-bpwg-minutes.html#item26 Final resolutions: - Ref LC-1999 Resolve no commenter and point out to commenter that size on its own is unsafe as an indicator of mobile friendlines e.g content with embedded flash

Resolution: Size of page on its own is not a safe indicator that a page is designed for mobile, so this heuristic has not been added to the working draft. Some examples of pages where page size is not a good indicator of mobile friendliness include: pages that consist of one large Flash animation, small pages linked off the main page (e.g., login pages), google.com, etc.

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