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prioritized techniques harvested on earlier Thursday calls: high, medium, low
Script techniques: later
Results of prioritisation process: divide up techniques to be written by TTF members
Version with insertions and deletions sent to list
Discussing: publish mapping as a working draft?
Comment: most notes could be deleted
Resolution: publish the updated mapping - with notes deleted - as a working draft
<wendy> ACTION: christophe clean up mapping (delete notes, clean up deletions/insertion styles), etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/25-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
Discussing: unresolved action item
Discussing: remove example 2 from Guideline 3.2?
No support for keeping the example
resolution: delete example 2 from GL 3.2
<scribe> ACTION: Christophe and Becky work on examples to replace the current one [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/25-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
Discussing: remove example 3 from Guideline 3.2?
resolution: remove example 3 from Guideline 3.2
<scribe> ACTION: Wendy will send proposals for additional examples to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/25-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
Discussing: include suggestion to "use headers consistently" as a technique for Guideline 3.2 Level 2 SC 4
resolution: reject proposed success criterion/technique "use headers consistently"
Discussing: do not include "use templates for consistent presentation of sections or whole site"
No one in favour of treating this as a success criterion.
resolution: create a general technique about using templates for consistent presentation of sections of whole site
Discussing: mapping of this suggested technique
options: GL 3.1 or 3.2
<wendy> propose 3.2 L2 sc1
concern: technique not testable
resolution: map technique for templates as advistory technique for GL 3.2 L2 SC1
Discussing: do not include "controls that look or sound the same should be designed to act the same"
comment: this was also discussed at Brussels F2F
example: traffic lights
... check mark in application
example: 'next page'
<scribe> ACTION: Andi look up example discussed during Brussels F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/25-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action05]
<wendy> action 4 = Yvette, Michael, Gian and Christophe work on proposal regarding "controls that look or sound the same should be designed to act the same"
Discussing: do not include "conventions likely to be familiar to the user should be followed"
Not much support for it, even as advisory item
(Comment: something on following conventions could be included in advisory information)
resolution: reject the proposal "conventions likely to be familiar to the user should be followed"
Discussing: "unusual user interface features or behaviors that are likely to confuse the first-time user should be described to the user before they are encountered"
Some people in favor of a technique
Technique for content-relevant assistance?
<wendy> ACTION: Wendy, Ben, Gian, Roberto Castaldo, yvette to propose technique for "unusual user interface features or behaviors that are likely to confuse the first-time user should be described to the user before they are encountered" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/25-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action07]
Discussing: "allow the user to select different page layout templates for presentation of pages. (e.g. 3 column, linear, adding extra orientation or navigation elements, etc.)"
Some people in favor of a technique
Comment: article on 'A List Apart' - specific to HTML - is something more general possible?
<wendy> ACTION: Becky and Gian to propose a technique and propose mapping to another SC (3.2 doesn't seem best fit) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/25-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action08]
Discussing: Close issue 844?
resolution: close issue 844 (overtaken by events)
Discussing: Replace the existing benefits with the following 3 proposals?
<wendy> ACTION: john contact joe about follow up for "Replace the existing benefits" comments. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/25-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action09]
resolution: adopt proposed wording and insert "or have low vision" after "people who are blind"
Discussing proposal for example 1
resolution: remove example 1
Discussing proposal on all Web sites using the same UI paradign
resolution: reject proposal on all Web site
using the same UI paradigm
... reject proposal on standards for different types of content
... reject proposal to include a Close button on all pop-up windows
discussing issue 1345
example of accessibility issue with unperceivable text: light green links on bright blue background are not readable.
<wendy> http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=892
resolution: close issue 1345
... close issue 1373 because the note has been deleted
... accept straw poll for all other GL 1.4 issues
discussing Gregg's proposal for document templates
resolution: in favor atomic organization of the information rather than huge documents