W3C

WSA Telcon- August 21, 2003
21 Aug 2003

Attendees

Present: Roger, David, Doug, Hugo, Mike_Mahan, Zulah, Daniel, Eric, Paul

Regrets: Chris, Ugo

Chair: Mike Champion

Scribe: Mike

Contents


Scribe: Champion
... Date: 21 Aug 2003

Discussion of Straw Poll Results http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34341/sync/results

Scribe: CONSENSUS: We can live with the proposed definition, but let's discuss tweaks to clarify "request/response" in light of various comments.

SeveralPeople: Let's distinguish between synch/asynch at the protocol level and at the SOAP/WSDL/user level. For example, email is usually considered "asynchronous" but SMTP is a request/response protocol.

David: Proposed defintion

Scribe: [["An interaction is said to be asynchronous when the associated messages are chronologically and procedurally decoupled. For example, in a request-response interaction, the client agent can process the response at some indeterminate point in the future when its existence is discovered, for example, by polling, notification by receipt of another message, etc. An interaction is said to be synchronous when the participating agents must be available to receive and process the associated messages from the time the interaction is initiated until all messages are actually received or some failure condition is determined. The exact meaning of "available to receive the message" depends on the characteristics of the participating agents (including the transfer protocol it uses); it may, but does not necessarily, imply tight time synchronization, blocking a thread, etc."
... ]]
... ACTION: Hugo will update the glossary with the proposed text and bring it to the WG's attention

PaulD: Wishes to change "client agent" to "requester"

Scribe: ACTION: MikeC will ast the WG to revisit the client/server requester/provider consumer/supplier terminology issue

Why was URI dropped from the ur-Trout definition of Web services?

David: This was not an oversight, we wanted to avoid the QName vs URI rathole.

Roger: Sanjiva posted a good explanation of why this isn't as bad a rathole as we thought.

Scribe: CONSENSUS: We can discuss the URI issue without re-opening the ur-Troutpond
... ACTION: Mike will respond with our explanation for removing URI.
... ACTION: Roger will harvest Sanjiva's explanation for the architecture document.

Hao's proposed definition of SOA

David: Have editorial suggestions and will send them to the list

Miscellaneous issues

Scribe: ACTION: Daniel will present the proposed project plan to the working group soon.
... ACTION: People should check to see that anything they sent to our list is in the archive; if not, resend.
... ACTION: MikeC will put Hao's proposed reliable messaging text on the next telcon agenda
... (adjourn)

Summary of Action Items

ACTION: Daniel will present the proposed project plan to the working group soon.
ACTION: Hugo will update the glossary with the proposed text and bring it to the WG's attention
ACTION: Mike will respond with our explanation for removing URI.
ACTION: MikeC will ast the WG to revisit the client/server requester/provider consumer/supplier terminology issue
ACTION: MikeC will put Hao's proposed reliable messaging text on the next telcon agenda
ACTION: People should check to see that anything they sent to our list is in the archive; if not, resend.
ACTION: Roger will harvest Sanjiva's explanation for the architecture document.

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