DRM/IPR workshop Trip

2001-01-20 Saturday

17:35 to 19:10

AA #864 to Chicago

20:45 to 20:45

AA #88 to BRU

2001-01-21 Sunday

14:10 to 16:00

AA #6235 to Nice

Arrived in nice; rented a cellphone from Call'Phone; quite reasonable: the only charge is airtime.$$

Tried to avoid the cost of a taxi ride to Antibes by taking the bus$$; missed the Anitbes stop; took a taxi back to Antibes from Cannes.$$

20:30 to 21:30

Dinner w/Alan, ...

2001-01-22 Monday

agenda

9.45 - 10.45

Vora (Hewlett-Packard):

• interesting point: personal profiles are assets; authentication is trade in an asset
• TODO: study zero-knowledge proofs (what logic? any connection to Semantic Web proof theory?)

Still (University of Helsinki); she explained how the US, EU law is based on principles like free flow of information, right to privacy; I wonder: are these principles held in Asia?

first sale doctrine is something I hadn't heard before. MarkM explained it to me later.

I'd like to know if the term license has a home in the legal web; perhaps in the Uniform Commercial Code?

Kawamura (Daisy Consortium) hmm... is screen-reading a performance right?

notes on the discussion:

• participants repeatedly report that extant DRM systems handle exceptions like interlibrary loan poorly.
• rights that expire vs. perpetual rights

13:34 to 15:30

Godfrey Rust (Indecs Project)

The emphasis on events seems like the same modelling strategy I wrote about in protocols for state distribution and Communication Protocol Semantics and my larch HTTP trait

Eric, Ralph, and I discussed the way my brain and the web work so well together; I explained that I use dates as the dominant axis for all navigation; Eric uses places. We realized that events = dates+places.

??

Peter@IBM chimed in about the MPEG data model and such; he referred to a "principles and concepts list" somewhere in the MPEG spec; I asked where I could find it, and he said he'd send it to the workshop list.

16:00 to 18:00

Vaughn Iverson (Intel) regarding our letigious(sp?) society, he recommended The Death of Common Sense.

Stephen Mooney (Pye Brook)

• TODO: connect the E-Book Identifier Sig to our URI work (see also: ZRH chat@@).
• TODO: study EBX trust model

Larry Lannom (CNRI)

• rdf query svc: the handle protocol is basically "select statement where subject=X" or "select statement where subject=X and predicate=Y".
• Hdl protocol: any URI

  Tim, didn't you write, in an early version of the architecture document, something like "if you accept any URI scheme, you gotta accept them all"? I can't find it now. I thought I cited it from the ICE staff comment, but I seem to have copied the information without citing any source.

  New systems should use URIs where a reference exists, without making constraint on the scheme (old or new) which is chosen.

  --arch doc

• Larry claimed 3 million DOIs in use

TODO: Danny suggested a NOTE explaining how to do what DOIs/handles do with existing technology, ala perls. See also: Engelbart's requirement for a hyperdocument library system.

1900

social event. sat next to MPEG guys:

	IBM
Peter P. Schirling Senior Consulting Engineer Digital Media Standards Research Division	River Road MS 862N Essex Junction, VT 05452 Tel +1 802 769 6123 Fax +1 802 769 7362 Mobile +1 802 238 2036 Notes ID: peter schirling@ibmus schirlin@us.ibm.com

Here are the address details I promised you:

Rob Koenen
InterTrust Technologies Corporation

Number is NL:
Land:  +31 10 485 82 15 (until mid feb)
Cell:   +31 6 13 22 83 17 (will keep working)

As of mid February:

tel: +1 (408) 855 0100
fax: +1 (408) 855 0144
4750 Patrick Henry Drive 
Santa Clara, CA 95054
USA

-- Rob K, Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:49:09 -0800

2001-01-23 Tuesday

agenda

9.30 - 11.00

Judie Mulholland (Florida State University) after wandering around a bunch of platitudes that I couldn't really connect with, she presented a slide about W3C's role that I really liked:

W3C Role

• Advocacy
• Collaboration
• Research & Development

Mark S. Manasse (Compaq) great stuff! esp

• digital notarization for fixing transactions in time cheaply
• if pirates rise above the noise, you can find them the same way their customers can (see also: the "scary" monitoring presentation)

11.15 - 12.30

Jeremy Wyant (NTRU) he said his technology is in the standards process; which standards process?

15.30 - 17.00 Closing Session

idea for the workshop report: describe the evolution in publishing economics that was mentioned many times; each time, rightsholders feared the increased access, but each time, it benefitted them economically; why should the Internet not follow the trend?

1. lending libraries
2. video rental
3. internet

also:

• advocacy/collaboration/R&D.
• Rights expression language (architecture: metadata; trusted/signed metadata)
• MPEG liaison (collaboration) timeframe? available resources?
• notarization, tracking/notice-and-takedown (advocacy, architecture)

evening

DIDL with Vaughan, @@ @ HP. TODO: follow up on packaging with www-xml-packaging, RDDL, Jelliffe, ...

later

another 4 course meal; with the sophia team (where was it? photos?)

even later

out to Cannes with Danny, Eric, Nokia guy, @@other guy

Noodling: Rights, Events, ...

an idea tha occurred to me: <myDoc> dc:rights loc:preserve meaning: "I hereby claim copyright under U.S. law and grant the library of congress the right to archive this content." Hmm... perhaps better: "I claim copyright under U.S. law; I have deposited a copy of this document with the U.S. library of congress." Hmm... who is I anyway? authentication...

Eric drew a picture in my notebook; here's an n3 transcription:

:event1
  rdf:type :Creation;
  dc:rights loc:Preserve;
  :place [a City; :called "Sophia"];
  :time "2000-01-23";
  :agent [= :DanC; a Person; :called "Dan Connolly"];
  :output
    [= :myDoc;
       dc:subject ddc:345;
       dc:title "...";
       dc:creator :DanC;
    ].

illustrating a rule ala

{ { :who dc:creator :doc }
  l:means
  { [ a :Event; a Creation;
      :agent :who ] :output :doc. }
} a l:Truth; l:forAll :who, :doc.

modelling patent rights from an events perspective

• application
• grant/issue (or deny)
• publication (prior art)
• product sale (infringement)
• expire
• transfer
• challenge/review

Trusted Hardware

The Gemplus talk acknowledged that smartcards have not been accepted in the marketplace; it got me thinking about various forms of trusted hardware that have been deployed:

• pre-paid phone cards
• credit cards
• cell phones
• PalmPilot and other PDAs

more than hardward, they are accepted social protocols (aka business models) with varying (but widely accepted) levels of privacy, durability, risk, and reward.

2001-01-24 Wednesday

After w3m, Danny and I discussed the patent policy WG schedule. He agreed to take one of his early drafts--one that explained the problem without proposing much of a solution--and publish it as a NOTE (after tweaking it slightly to, for example, mention the WG). We looked at the schedule; the business of ammending the membership contract and such. It's gonna take more resource than we have allocated to it so far.

2001-01-25 Thursday

movies on the plane: "Bring it On" "Heaven can Wait"

05:45 to 06:45

Danny gave me a ride to NCE

09:00 to 10:20

Swissair #755 to Zurich

13:05 to 17:40

DL #067 to Atlanta

Engelbart views
multiview editinq...
Noah, lotus notes vs XSLT
    failed lpl?
Ah... MVC (smalltalk)
rdf model (abstract syntax)

cvs model: lines of text

19:55 to 21:10

DL #1544 to MCI D35

21:30 to 22:30

Quicksilver

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