Chat History: Nanopublication

Created on 2011-03-11 16:34:21.

Paolo Ciccarese: 15:03:09; Sean could you start the call?
Sean Bechhofer: 15:06:36; Paolo: walks through slides.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:06:47; Simple example from Marchesi
David R Newman: 15:07:15; hi
David R Newman: 15:07:38; shall I call in or does someone need to call out to me?
Sean Bechhofer: 15:07:49; Paolo: wrapped claim in a graph.
Paul Groth: 15:07:50; i'll call
Sean Bechhofer: 15:08:24; Paolo: Good to wrap everything in a graph so that additional information can be added.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:08:43; distinguish between authorship and curation
David R Newman: 15:09:09; hmm not sure what happened there paul
Sean Bechhofer: 15:09:09; So G1 authored by someone and curated by someone else
David R Newman: 15:09:21; couldn't answer before the window disappeared
Paul Groth: 15:10:03; hold on...
Sean Bechhofer: 15:10:08; distinguishing the curation of the statement and the curation of the authorship of the statement.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:11:19; Hi time
Sean Bechhofer: 15:11:26; s/time/Tim
Tim Clark: 15:11:27; hi
Paul Groth: 15:12:03; http://www.w3.org/wiki/images/f/fd/Nanopub_Claim1_AlzSWAN.pdf
Paolo Ciccarese: 15:12:06; http://www.slideshare.net/paolociccarese/alzswan-hyque-and-nanopublications
Sean Bechhofer: 15:17:38; Curation simple here: who did it and when.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:21:06; Distinguish between author/contributor/curator
Sean Bechhofer: 15:21:12; author: original knowledge
Sean Bechhofer: 15:21:17; contributor: some IP work
Sean Bechhofer: 15:21:47; curator: doing stuff but not so much "contribution"
Sean Bechhofer: 15:23:49; Tim: heard criticism of SWAN model because claims are "just text". Wanted to avoid cutting out science in order to produce representations.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:23:58; Some claims may be amenable to this approach.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:24:47; Paul: We're not trying to model all the rhetorical discourse here.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:25:05; Tim: What is it you don't want to do?
Sean Bechhofer: 15:25:32; Paul: Don't want to model all the judgement.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:25:58; It says x, there's evidence for x.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:26:21; Gully: Minimal ontological commitment. Just trying to answer the q what's the provenance of a claim.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:26:31; text claim + curation information.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:29:18; onion model. layers
Sean Bechhofer: 15:29:32; Tim: look at the social acceptance of technology.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:29:41; Currently accepted scientific papers as PDF.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:29:48; Don't want to jump off that.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:30:11; Relationship between these things and the paper is the outer layer.
Sean Bechhofer: 15:31:40; Sean: claims as a black box. Nano pubs as infrastructure that allows reasoning about the provenance
Paolo Ciccarese: 15:38:22; With the triples: http://www.slideshare.net/paolociccarese/alzswan-hyque-and-nanopublications
Paul Groth: 15:38:43; paolo can this be shared widely?
Paolo Ciccarese: 15:38:49; sure
Paolo Ciccarese: 15:38:58; it is on slideshare
Sean Bechhofer: 15:40:43; Tim: Consider functional aspects
Sean Bechhofer: 15:41:38; Important use case. Data as evidence.
Paul Groth: 15:58:00; do you guys use ORE for that?
Sean Bechhofer: 16:03:45; Paul: concrete suggestion.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:03:54; Use case: text decorating a paper.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:04:02; Use case: decorating a workflow
Sean Bechhofer: 16:04:10; Bunch of nanopubs around an RO.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:04:18; The RO is a myExperiment pack
Sean Bechhofer: 16:05:11; run workflow get some numbers out.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:05:27; mark those up as nanopubs pointing back to the RO
Sean Bechhofer: 16:05:46; RO is supproting evidence for the claim
Sean Bechhofer: 16:06:09; Tim: Add interpretational claim to the output.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:07:13; Sean: what's the interaction between the nanopub and RO?
Paul Groth: 16:10:02; http://www.myexperiment.org/files/461.html
Sean Bechhofer: 16:12:14; TIm: thing that produces the data is a black box.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:19:52; Concrete Actions
Sean Bechhofer: 16:20:08; Paolo provide Paul with some RDF. Paul will get that into an RDF store.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:20:36; Add use cases. 1/ pure data referencing. 2/ workflow/method
Sean Bechhofer: 16:20:57; Sean: workflow pack + nice statement
Gully Burns: 16:25:07; Gully: Implement KEfED nanopublications for tract-tracing experiments
Gully Burns: 16:27:33; Method: Use SWAN Claims as the basis ... how to compare these things?
Sean Bechhofer: 16:29:01; Wiki as the focal point.
Sean Bechhofer: 16:33:04; Doodle poll for next call.