HCLSIG/SWANSIOC/Nanopublications-Subtask/110311-Skype
Chat History: Nanopublication
Created on 2011-03-11 16:34:21.
- Paolo Ciccarese
- 15:03:09
- Sean could you start the call?
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:06:36
- Paolo: walks through slides.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:06:47
- Simple example from Marchesi
- David R Newman
- 15:07:15
- hi
- David R Newman
- 15:07:38
- shall I call in or does someone need to call out to me?
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:07:49
- Paolo: wrapped claim in a graph.
- Paul Groth
- 15:07:50
- i'll call
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:08:24
- Paolo: Good to wrap everything in a graph so that additional information can be added.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:08:43
- distinguish between authorship and curation
- David R Newman
- 15:09:09
- hmm not sure what happened there paul
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:09:09
- So G1 authored by someone and curated by someone else
- David R Newman
- 15:09:21
- couldn't answer before the window disappeared
- Paul Groth
- 15:10:03
- hold on...
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:10:08
- distinguishing the curation of the statement and the curation of the authorship of the statement.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:11:19
- Hi time
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:11:26
- s/time/Tim
- Tim Clark
- 15:11:27
- hi
- Paul Groth
- 15:12:03
- http://www.w3.org/wiki/images/f/fd/Nanopub_Claim1_AlzSWAN.pdf
- Paolo Ciccarese
- 15:12:06
- http://www.slideshare.net/paolociccarese/alzswan-hyque-and-nanopublications
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:17:38
- Curation simple here: who did it and when.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:21:06
- Distinguish between author/contributor/curator
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:21:12
- author: original knowledge
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:21:17
- contributor: some IP work
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:21:47
- curator: doing stuff but not so much "contribution"
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:23:49
- Tim: heard criticism of SWAN model because claims are "just text". Wanted to avoid cutting out science in order to produce representations.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:23:58
- Some claims may be amenable to this approach.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:24:47
- Paul: We're not trying to model all the rhetorical discourse here.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:25:05
- Tim: What is it you don't want to do?
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:25:32
- Paul: Don't want to model all the judgement.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:25:58
- It says x, there's evidence for x.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:26:21
- Gully: Minimal ontological commitment. Just trying to answer the q what's the provenance of a claim.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:26:31
- text claim + curation information.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:29:18
- onion model. layers
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:29:32
- Tim: look at the social acceptance of technology.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:29:41
- Currently accepted scientific papers as PDF.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:29:48
- Don't want to jump off that.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:30:11
- Relationship between these things and the paper is the outer layer.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:31:40
- Sean: claims as a black box. Nano pubs as infrastructure that allows reasoning about the provenance
- Paolo Ciccarese
- 15:38:22
- With the triples: http://www.slideshare.net/paolociccarese/alzswan-hyque-and-nanopublications
- Paul Groth
- 15:38:43
- paolo can this be shared widely?
- Paolo Ciccarese
- 15:38:49
- sure
- Paolo Ciccarese
- 15:38:58
- it is on slideshare
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:40:43
- Tim: Consider functional aspects
- Sean Bechhofer
- 15:41:38
- Important use case. Data as evidence.
- Paul Groth
- 15:58:00
- do you guys use ORE for that?
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:03:45
- Paul: concrete suggestion.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:03:54
- Use case: text decorating a paper.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:04:02
- Use case: decorating a workflow
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:04:10
- Bunch of nanopubs around an RO.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:04:18
- The RO is a myExperiment pack
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:05:11
- run workflow get some numbers out.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:05:27
- mark those up as nanopubs pointing back to the RO
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:05:46
- RO is supproting evidence for the claim
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:06:09
- Tim: Add interpretational claim to the output.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:07:13
- Sean: what's the interaction between the nanopub and RO?
- Paul Groth
- 16:10:02
- http://www.myexperiment.org/files/461.html
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:12:14
- TIm: thing that produces the data is a black box.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:19:52
- Concrete Actions
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:20:08
- Paolo provide Paul with some RDF. Paul will get that into an RDF store.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:20:36
- Add use cases. 1/ pure data referencing. 2/ workflow/method
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:20:57
- Sean: workflow pack + nice statement
- Gully Burns
- 16:25:07
- Gully: Implement KEfED nanopublications for tract-tracing experiments
- Gully Burns
- 16:27:33
- Method: Use SWAN Claims as the basis ... how to compare these things?
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:29:01
- Wiki as the focal point.
- Sean Bechhofer
- 16:33:04
- Doodle poll for next call.