HCLSIG/SWANSIOC/Meetings/2010-10-18 Conference Call

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DRAFT Agenda

1. Housekeeping

2. Presentation of the SWAN / CiTO / FaBIO / PRISM alignment

3. Next steps

- Alignment with BiBO

- CiTO + SWAN IG Note

4. Wrap-Up


Discussion Materials

SWAN-CiTO alignment process on this wiki
SPAR (CiTO, FaBIO, etc.) Ontologies Home
Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records (IFLA 1998)

Minutes

Paolo: We were working on citations in SWAN & David was working as well separately, basing on FRBR, decided to align the two efforts

Paolo: Working for a while - not an alignment anymore - turned into something different - SWAN citations dropped in favor of new evolution of CiTO, which is more modular than the original

Paolo: why created new entity? SWAN has been around for some time, ditto CiTO, attempt to reduce the number of ontologies - ended up with a single model Paolo: we are starting to use David's model for SWAN, the Annotation Framework, etc.

David: two summer ago I was involved in semantic enhancements of an exemplar paper (adventures in semantic annotations) part of which was to enhance the info about citations, => developed CiTO, "A cites B", "A refutes B", etc. and it contained info about the cited article

David: was aware of existence of BiBO etc, but found the FRBR model very clarifying, it's less flat, so I went with it

David: we converged SWAN and CiTO, and deprecated SWAN.Citations (which actually described bibliographic objects) but in the process of so doing, we decided (assisted by Silvio Peroni) to modularize CiTO into FaBIO for bibliographic objects. The citations are in CiTO, the Bibliographic records are in FaBIO. FaBIO includes the PRISM classes and extends them a bit.

David: to help the alignment with SWAN we relaxed domain and range restrictions and added some restrictions. Paolo suggested a bunch of things. SWAN team can now use them. We just finished a paper on this activity. In process of modularizing CiTO, we also created two more ontologies (have plans for another 4) for other stuff related for citations, e.g. counting etc.) BiRO is for bibliographic references within a bibliographic record. Using SWAN ordered lists we can now create bibliographic lists etc.

David: also plan to create other SPAR ontologies, pub status, roles, workflow, document components - will try to harmonize document components with Anita deWaard's work.

Paolo: we should provide examples of instantiated citations on the Wiki, put in some parts of our paper etc.

David: I've revised the exemplar article from Adventures in semantic annotation, can submit to the wiki

Joanne: how can an individual researcher make use?

David: I make up metadata for all my papers [ will put a sample on the wiki ] CiteULike has just adopted CiTO, btw - they just grabbed it - we had nothing to do with us

Paolo: behind the process of doing an annotation tool for online documents, we may be able to surface bibliographic objects & citations, are working on a version for NIF, that should be able to provide access to CiTO & FaBIO - will be the subject of the call next Monday

David: just posted on the chat channel the URL of CiteULike, from Egon Willihagen, uses methodin to do an indirect citation, method comes indirectly (implicitly)

Jodi: how is that being populated in CiteULike? David: I had nothing to do with it

Paolo: we' will provide more examples on the wiki, use cases - also, we can provide some comparison or alignment between FaBIO and BiBO

David: Silvio and I have used SKOS to represent the equivalence of the BiBO classes to those in FaBIO

David: a lot of equivalent classes, FaBIO is just more expressive, we have been aligning with the BiBO "Expressions"

Paolo: can we provide examples of translations?

David: people also wanted to align with BiBTex (used in PLoS) - we should do that

Paolo: two ways to provide mappings, (a) with SKOS, (b) to describe with examples and tables - second way could be used to give people a clearer idea, for when you are writing software, I'll send you some BiBO examples

Paolo: should we do a note David: yes Tim: yes

Tim: we should also make sure that everything is built into useful applications

David: could build this into Phil Bourne's MS Word plugin

Jodi: you could also use the Cite&Write tools in Zotero, EndNote and Bibtex - could be easier to get traction with those groups

David: Thompson-Reuters is selling this stuff - maybe we should work with the open access people, starting to talk with Mendeley, they seem remarkably open, any other suggestions

David: we and Peter Murray-Rust have a pair of JISC funded projects for open bibliography on the web which will use these models.

Paolo: next week - demo of the Annotation Framework next week, referring back to AO

Gully: recommend using VYEW.com for webcasts...