HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/2-5-coi-minutes

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tom: how much of these data are modeled in sdtm? referals and visits to clinics vipul: limited knowledge of eligibility criteria don will upload his DCM presenation of patient 1 vipul has uploaded his presentation

HELEN: looking at models of RIM into OWL (Rector has done that based on NHS funding)

 wrote an e-mail to Recotr about that but never got anything back
 upload her ontology and the design issues - pay importance on how to 

convert things into the OWL/RDF

properties

 Jello - represent the data in RDF and reasoning

???

CTM Mapping eligibility criteria / data items from narrative to data items

vipul: on the clinical trial side, the data is described via CDM how well can CDM describe data

data always coming fro EMR - describe EMR data via CDM issues of eligility screening

we are getting the value of testing the model on real data

Buffet: stopped working on realistic approach with BFO

 hope to haven a meeting with Alan soon
 develop a better understanding on how BFO expects you to do the modeling

Holger: support this work with BFO

vipul: looking at POMR (Chemize) presentation description of the OWL-Version of GALEN

does the created model make sense? mapping triples to Galen (plain-language triples)

Helen: Galen is huge and so Galen will fail in OWL-Reasoner

vipul: Galen is huge BUT perhaps the modeling is not 100% the way it should be done, but there are is a similarity in structure

to HL7 should we use Galen as a underlying model

 Galen is not an information model
 use ontology only when necessary
 Galen can give you reasing service to enhance the disease model by 

making implicit relations

explicit (elucidating new facts)

vipul: why use Galen? good temporal model helen: temporal constructs in Galen similar to HL7 vipul: select model to chose from - HL7/Galen

 "what are the respective advantages of HL&, Galen, etc. resp.?"
 are the slides understandable? agreement

vipul: goal: best practices for encoding clinical data

 as soon as some RDF (or other) representaion is ready it should be put 

on the web