ISSUE-32

table-summary

how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation?

State:
OPEN
Product:
HTML 5 spec
Raised by:
Joshue O Connor
Opened on:
2008-02-07
Description:
Raised by: James Graham on behalf of Joshue O'Connor, 7 Feb 2008
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Feb/0124.html

Vision impaired screen reader users listen to outputted information, without any visual cues, and HTML 5 drafts up to and including http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-20090212/ lack a mechanism that gives an overview of complex tabular data or a brief explanation of that data.

HTML 4 provides a table/@summary attribute where authors may provide this information.

Issue is detailed at: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE 

Summary Draft Text for the Spec - Cynthia Shelly, September 14, 2009
http://dev.w3.org/html5/pf-summary/Overview.html#the-table-element
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Sep/0553.html

PF Advice: @Summary - Janina Sajka, June 3, 2009
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jun/0026.html

May 4, 2009 message asked Janina Sajka (WAI PF WG's new chair) for comments on several items in order to move this issue toward resolution.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009May/0033.html

editor's position given by ian@hixie.ch on February 24, 2009
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0601.html

editor's position is given by ian@hixie.ch on 2008-12-20
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Dec/0175.html

WAI PF WG's position is given in 6 Aug msg from Al G.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0213.html
supplemented by, e.g. "Use and abuse of summary" thread
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0420.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0503.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0512.html

Related email:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE#head-6fcfaa26f41088d2cf13b4dd3247225a49ee7be1

Related Bugs:
7539: Since @summary is an official part of the table element, it is no longer obsolete...
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7539
7633: The use of @summary should be encouraged when circumstances warrant.
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7633

HTML5-SPEC-SECTIONS [tabular-data]
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  1. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-11-19: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task force reports (from oradnio@gmail.com on 2009-11-19)
  2. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-11-19: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task force reports (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2009-11-19)
  3. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-11-19: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task force reports (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-11-18)
  4. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-11-19: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task force reports (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-11-18)
  5. We have a volunteer to write a Change Proposal for ISSUE-32: table-summary (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-10)
  6. minutes of 2009-10-01 telcon (from mike@w3.org on 2009-10-02)
  7. Agenda for HTML WG telcon 2009-09-24 - CfCs, Accessibility TF, Testing TF, etc. (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-09-30)
  8. [Bug 7633] The use of @summary should be encouraged when circumstances warrant (from bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org on 2009-09-29)
  9. minutes for 2009-09-17 telcon (from mike@w3.org on 2009-09-20)
  10. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-09-17 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-09-16)
  11. RE: [html] Summary draft (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-09-14)
  12. Agenda for HTML WG telcon 2009-09-10 - Accessibility TF, Testing TF, etc (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-09-09)
  13. FW: Agenda for HTML WG telcon 2009-09-10 - Accessibility TF, Testing TF, etc (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-09-09)
  14. State of HTML WG Unresolved Issues (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-20)
  15. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-08-20 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-08-19)
  16. {minutes} HTML WG telcon 2009-08-13 for review (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-08-13)
  17. Re: Begin discussions for pushing Last Call into 2010 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-08-13)
  18. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-08-13 (from cooper@w3.org on 2009-08-12)
  19. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-08-13 (from singer@apple.com on 2009-08-12)
  20. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-08-13 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-08-12)
  21. Re: Consolidated issues that may qualify as 'controversial' (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-08-12)
  22. Re: Consolidated issues that may qualify as 'controversial' (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-08-12)
  23. Re: Consolidated issues that may qualify as 'controversial' (from shelleyp@burningbird.net on 2009-08-12)
  24. Consolidated issues that may qualify as 'controversial' (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-12)
  25. Re: summary attribute compromise proposal (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-08-06)
  26. RE: summary attribute compromise proposal (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-08-06)
  27. Re: [DRAFT] Heartbeat poll - update 4 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-08-06)
  28. minutes: HTML WG telecon 2009-08-06 [draft] (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-08-06)
  29. Re: Thoughts regarding Maciej's compromise and the heartbeat publication (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-08-05)
  30. My position (was RE: [DRAFT] Heartbeat poll - update 2) (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-08-02)
  31. RE: [DRAFT] Heartbeat poll (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-08-01)
  32. RE: [DRAFT] Heartbeat poll (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-07-31)
  33. RE: Publishing a new draft (HTML5+RDFa) (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-07-30)
  34. Re: PROPOSAL: Procedure to Promote Progress With Accessibility Issues in HTML5 (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2009-07-20)
  35. Re: PROPOSAL: Procedure to Promote Progress With Accessibility Issues in HTML5 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-07-20)
  36. RE: PROPOSAL: Procedure to Promote Progress With Accessibility Issues in HTML5 (from foliot@wats.ca on 2009-07-19)
  37. minutes HTML weekly 9 July for review (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-07-09)
  38. Re: PF Response: @Summary (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-07-07)
  39. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-06-22)
  40. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-19)
  41. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-06-15)
  42. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-15)
  43. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-06-15)
  44. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-15)
  45. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from karl@la-grange.net on 2009-06-15)
  46. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-06-15)
  47. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from karl@la-grange.net on 2009-06-14)
  48. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-14)
  49. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-06-14)
  50. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-06-14)
  51. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-06-14)
  52. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from joedwil@earthlink.net on 2009-06-14)
  53. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-06-14)
  54. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-06-14)
  55. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-14)
  56. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-12)
  57. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-12)
  58. Re: What is the value of conformance? (was RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32)) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-12)
  59. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-12)
  60. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-12)
  61. Re: What is the value of conformance? (was RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32)) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-12)
  62. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-12)
  63. Re: What is the value of conformance? (was RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32)) (from bzbarsky@MIT.EDU on 2009-06-12)
  64. RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-06-12)
  65. RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-06-12)
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  67. What is the value of conformance? (was RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32)) (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-06-12)
  68. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-12)
  69. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-06-12)
  70. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-12)
  71. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-12)
  72. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-12)
  73. RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-06-12)
  74. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-12)
  75. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from Smylers@stripey.com on 2009-06-11)
  76. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jgraham@opera.com on 2009-06-11)
  77. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-06-10)
  78. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jens@meiert.com on 2009-06-09)
  79. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-06-09)
  80. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-09)
  81. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-06-09)
  82. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-06-09)
  83. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-06-09)
  84. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from murray@muzmo.com on 2009-06-09)
  85. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-06-09)
  86. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from hober0@gmail.com on 2009-06-09)
  87. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from shelleyp@burningbird.net on 2009-06-09)
  88. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au on 2009-06-09)
  89. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from shelleyp@burningbird.net on 2009-06-09)
  90. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au on 2009-06-09)
  91. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from rsayre@mozilla.com on 2009-06-08)
  92. RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from murray@muzmo.com on 2009-06-08)
  93. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-08)
  94. Re: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-06-08)
  95. RE: <font color='blue'> (was ISSUE-32) (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2009-06-08)
  96. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-06-04 -- minutes enclosed (from singer@apple.com on 2009-06-04)
  97. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-06-04 -- minutes enclosed (from singer@apple.com on 2009-06-04)
  98. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-06-01)
  99. Re: Request for PFWG WAI review of summary for tabular data (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2009-05-04)
  100. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-27)
  101. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-21)
  102. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-15)
  103. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-06)
  104. Re: Input on the agenda (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-04-01)
  105. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-31)
  106. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-24)
  107. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-16)
  108. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-09)
  109. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-03-02)
  110. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-03-02)
  111. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-03-02)
  112. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from steveax@pobox.com on 2009-03-01)
  113. Re: Draft text for summary attribute definition (from david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com on 2009-03-01)
  114. Re: Draft text for summary attribute definition (from rob@robburns.com on 2009-03-01)
  115. Re: Draft text for summary attribute definition (from david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com on 2009-03-01)
  116. Re: Draft text for summary attribute definition (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-03-01)
  117. Re: Draft text for summary attribute definition (from rob@robburns.com on 2009-02-28)
  118. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-02-28)
  119. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-02-28)
  120. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from rob@robburns.com on 2009-02-27)
  121. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from Smylers@stripey.com on 2009-02-27)
  122. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-27)
  123. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-02-27)
  124. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from Smylers@stripey.com on 2009-02-27)
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  126. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from Smylers@stripey.com on 2009-02-27)
  127. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-02-27)
  128. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie on 2009-02-27)
  129. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-02-27)
  130. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie on 2009-02-27)
  131. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-02-27)
  132. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from simonp@opera.com on 2009-02-27)
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  145. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mattmay@adobe.com on 2009-02-26)
  146. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk on 2009-02-26)
  147. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-02-26)
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  150. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk on 2009-02-26)
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  155. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mattmay@adobe.com on 2009-02-26)
  156. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-02-26)
  157. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-26)
  158. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-02-26)
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  161. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-02-26)
  162. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-02-26)
  163. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk on 2009-02-26)
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  166. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-02-26)
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  168. minutes: HTML WG Weekly 26 Feb 2009 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-02-26)
  169. minutes: HTML WG Weekly 26 Feb 2009 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-02-26)
  170. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from lhs@malform.no on 2009-02-26)
  171. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-02-26)
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  186. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-26)
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  188. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2009-02-26)
  189. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-26)
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  193. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-02-25)
  194. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie on 2009-02-25)
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  207. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-25)
  208. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-02-25)
  209. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-02-25)
  210. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-25)
  211. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-25)
  212. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-02-25)
  213. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-02-25)
  214. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-25)
  215. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-02-25)
  216. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from janina@rednote.net on 2009-02-25)
  217. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from janina@rednote.net on 2009-02-25)
  218. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from wloughborough@gmail.com on 2009-02-25)
  219. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-02-25)
  220. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from poehlman1@comcast.net on 2009-02-25)
  221. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-02-25)
  222. Re: summary='' in HTML5 ISSUE-32 (from rob@robburns.com on 2009-02-25)
  223. minutes: HTML WG telecon 2009-02-19 [draft] (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-02-19)
  224. minutes: HTML WG telecon 2009-02-10 [draft] (from oedipus@hicom.net on 2009-02-12)
  225. Re: revised table headers design is OK, right? (from chaals@opera.com on 2009-02-11)
  226. revised table headers design is OK, right? (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-02-11)
  227. head@profile: another dropped attribute (from masinter@adobe.com on 2009-02-04)
  228. RE: table-summary argument (from masinter@adobe.com on 2009-02-03)
  229. table-summary argument (from masinter@adobe.com on 2009-02-03)
  230. minutes: HTML WG weekly telcon 22 Jan 2009 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-01-23)
  231. minutes: HTML Weekly Teleconference 15 Jan 2009 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-01-16)
  232. Table feedback (from ian@hixie.ch on 2008-12-20)
  233. Re: toward a schedule of HTML WG issues (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-08-22)
  234. Re: toward a schedule of HTML WG issues (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2008-08-22)
  235. toward a schedule of HTML WG issues (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-08-21)
  236. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-06-26 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-07-09)
  237. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-06-19 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-06-25)
  238. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-06-12 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-06-19)
  239. Re: several messages about tables and related subjects (from ian@hixie.ch on 2008-03-23)
  240. ISSUE-32 (table-summary): Include a summary attribute for tables? [HTML 5 spec] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2008-02-07)

Related notes:

2008-03-23 19:32:35: Rejected by editor due to unclear problem description. [Ian Hickson]

2008-09-25 16:07:23: See also: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE [Shawn Medero]

2008-09-25 16:17:58: Joshue's wiki page was sent to public-html in August 2008 but it looks like the email discussion didn't get linked up to this issue:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Jun/0330.html

Ian Hickson may have followed up here:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0505.html

It wasn't clear to me that he reviewed the wiki summary from this email as Ian is primarily responding to Al Gilman's comments [Shawn Medero]

2009-02-19 21:27:55: citing editor's position, WAI PF position; balancing description a bit [Dan Connolly]

2009-02-26 16:40:05: A more recent (29 Feb 2008) table@summary study from Philip Taylor: http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/summary-20090226.html [Shawn Medero]

2009-03-10 10:14:32: Still ongoing as of March 2009 [Joshue O Connor]

2009-06-01 19:00:19: To move issue 32 toward resolution asked PFWG for comments on several items (May 4, 2009):
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009May/0033.html

Asked PFWG Chair when would be a reasonable date to expect a reply from PF (June 6, 2009).
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jun/0003.html [Laura Carlson]

2009-06-04 13:51:05: PF Response: @Summary from Janina Sajka
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jun/0026.html

Response from editor and ensuing discussion:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/thread.html#msg173 [Laura Carlson]

2009-06-04 18:42:58: Discussion in June 4, 2009 Teleconference:
http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-html-wg-minutes.html#item05
Issue is at an impasse. Sam will send message to working group on summary to update wiki in preparation for vote. [Laura Carlson]

2009-06-25 16:33:37: ACTION: Joshue to draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-html-wg-minutes.html#action01] [Joshue O Connor]

2009-09-17 14:04:17: ACTION-136 Spec Text Drafted
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/136
http://dev.w3.org/html5/pf-summary/Overview.html#the-table-element
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Sep/0553.html [Laura Carlson]

2009-09-29 04:55:48: [MikeSmith]: see also http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7633 (The use of @summary should be encouraged when circumstances warrant)

2009-10-28 12:32:55: Related Bugzilla - Bug 7539
Since @summary is an official part of the table element, it is no longer obsolete. Sufficient warning language exists in it's definition that this entry should be removed:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7539 [Laura Carlson]

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