ISSUE-188: Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format

generic-track-format

Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format

State:
CLOSED
Product:
HTML 5 spec
Raised by:
Adrian Bateman
Opened on:
2011-12-05
Description:
Raised from https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13637

Frank Olivier wrote:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/rendering.html#webvtt-cue-text-rendering-rules
>
> The spec contains several (normative) references to webvtt when
> defining cue and track handling. These sections should be rewritten
> to be generic; webvtt is one of many caption formats that could be
> used in html5.

The timed text track feature provides useful capabilities in HTML that do not need to be bound to one specific format. For example, IE10 PP4 implements a subset of both the W3C Recommendation TTML and the experimental community group driven format WebVTT. Both are equally appropriate formats and IE10 PP4 would be interoperable with a user agent implementing a similar profile of TTML.

WebVTT could also feasibly be used as a timed text format independently from HTML5. There is therefore no reason to tie the two formats together with a mutual dependency.
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Related emails:
  1. RE: CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2012-03-29)
  2. RE: CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2012-03-27)
  3. Re: CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-03-22)
  4. Re: {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-22 (from glenn@skynav.com on 2012-03-22)
  5. {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-22 (from glenn@skynav.com on 2012-03-22)
  6. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-22: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, revert request, F2F registration, task force reports (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-03-21)
  7. Working Group Decision: Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-03-20)
  8. {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-08: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, F2F meeting plans, task force reports (from glenn@skynav.com on 2012-03-08)
  9. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-08: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, F2F meeting plans, task force reports (from glenn@skynav.com on 2012-03-08)
  10. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-08: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, F2F meeting plans, task force reports (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2012-03-08)
  11. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-08: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, F2F meeting plans, task force reports (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2012-03-07)
  12. {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-01: issue progress and heartbeat drafts (from eoconnor@apple.com on 2012-03-01)
  13. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-03-01: issue progress and heartbeat drafts (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-02-29)
  14. [Minutes] (HTML WG telecon 2012-02-23: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, task force reports) (from glenn@skynav.com on 2012-02-23)
  15. [Minutes] (HTML WG telecon 2012-02-23: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, task force reports) (from glenn@skynav.com on 2012-02-23)
  16. FW: counter proposal for issue 185 (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2012-02-22)
  17. Re: HTML WG telecon 2012-02-16: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, task force reports (from ian@iandevlin.com on 2012-02-22)
  18. HTML WG telecon 2012-02-16: issue progress, heartbeat drafts, task force reports (from mjs@apple.com on 2012-02-21)
  19. CfC: Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-02-20)
  20. [minutes] HTML WG telecon 2012-02-16: issue progress (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-02-16)
  21. HTML WG telecon 2012-02-16: issue progress (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2012-02-15)
  22. RE: {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2012-02-09: issue progress, task force reports, revert request, new information deadline, F2F (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2012-02-09)
  23. HTML WG telecon 2012-02-09: issue progress, task force reports, revert request, new information deadline, F2F (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-02-07)
  24. HTML WG Minutes (Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-01-19: issue progress, other business) (from glenn@skynav.com on 2012-01-19)
  25. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-01-19: issue progress, other business (from janina@rednote.net on 2012-01-18)
  26. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2012-01-19: issue progress, other business (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2012-01-18)
  27. ISSUE-188: generic-track-format - Chairs Solicit Alternate Proposals or Counter-Proposals (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2012-01-17)
  28. RE: [msft-html5] ISSUE-188: generic-track-format - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from Frank.Olivier@microsoft.com on 2011-12-11)
  29. RE: {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2011-12-08: actions, issues and task force reports (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2011-12-08)
  30. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-12-08: actions, issues and task force reports (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-12-07)
  31. ISSUE-188: generic-track-format - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-12-07)
  32. HTML-ISSUE-188 (generic-track-format): Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format [HTML 5 spec] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2011-12-05)

Related notes:

[glenn]: generic-track-format call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16

23 Feb 2012, 17:04:20

[glenn]: generic-track-format, Call for Consensus closes Feb 29

23 Feb 2012, 17:07:33

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13637

Sam Ruby, 25 Apr 2012, 11:52:20

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