ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup
no-hgroup
remove or modify hgroup
- State:
- CLOSED
- Product:
- HTML 5 spec
- Raised by:
- Steve Faulkner
- Opened on:
- 2011-04-19
- Description:
- Change Proposals:
hgroup with the subline element by Steve Faulkner, June 28, 2011
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/hgroup
Drop hgroup and investigate alternatives by Lars Gunther, June 28, 2011
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/dropHgroup
we seem to have 5 bugs at least including what is in the current spec:
1. Drop hgroup, but have an sh child as a child within hn
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11731
2. Drop hgroup. Have nothing instead. Await a microformat to emerge and
prove its worth.
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11828 (Filed by me)
3. Keep hgroup, using hn and hn+1 as children. The current proposal in
the spec.
4. Drop hgroup, introduce sh to be put directly beneath an hn
5.drop hgroup and have a role=subheading or subheading attribute
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0147.html - Related Actions Items:
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Related notes:
Remove bug 11737 from the list per: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0062.html
Sam Ruby, 4 May 2011, 22:56:20WG Decisions to pursue this issue as extension specifications, with the possibility of reintegration into HTML 5.0, 5.1, or 5.2 per the reintegration policy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Oct/0105.html
Sam Ruby, 18 Jan 2013, 16:07:54Display change log