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08:50:00 <Dave_McAllister> sitting in a separate meeting in EC today. Will have to listen in with few comments <zakim> Guest: Owen Amber, StratML <zakim> Guest: James (jdforrester) Forrester, UK Cabinet Office <zakim> Guest: Brian (bdhandspicker) Handspicker <zakim> Guest: Tina Gheen, US NSF <zakim> present: Anne_Washington, Bernadette_Hyland, Brand_Niemann, Daniel_Bennett, Ed_Summers, Gannon_Dick, Hadley_Beeman, Jeanne_Holm, John_Erickson, Rachel_Flagg, Dave_McAllister <zakim> chair: Jeanne_Holm 09:01:00 <olyerickson> doesn't look like zakim is connected to audio 09:01:00 <olyerickson> hmmm, maybe it is... 09:02:00 <Daniel> Daniel has joined #egov 09:02:00 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone? 09:03:00 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #egov 09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is on the phone 09:03:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', jdforrester 09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is on the call 09:03:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the call', jdforrester 09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here 09:03:00 <Zakim> jdforrester, you need to end that query with '?' 09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here? 09:03:00 <Zakim> sorry, jdforrester, I don't know what conference this is #09:03:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar, trackbot, marek 09:04:00 <jdforrester> zakim, this is egov 09:04:00 <Zakim> ok, jdforrester; that matches T&S_EGOV()9:00AM 09:04:00 <olyerickson> zakim, who is here? 09:04:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, ??P2, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, davidwood, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8 #09:04:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar, trackbot, marek 09:05:00 <Zakim> + +44.786.783.aaff 09:05:00 <Zakim> +??P11 09:05:00 <olyerickson> zakim, ??P2 is me 09:05:00 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it 09:05:00 <gdick> gdick is aabb 09:05:00 <chris_biow> chris_biow has joined #egov 09:05:00 <annew> annew has joined #egov 09:05:00 <Daniel> Hi Rachel 09:05:00 <jdforrester> zakim, listen 09:05:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'listen', jdforrester 09:05:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is talking? 09:05:00 <Zakim> jdforrester, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jeanne (52%), +1.509.464.aacc (4%), +1.703.672.aadd (30%), +44.786.783.aaff (52%) 09:06:00 <edsu> edsu has joined #egov 09:06:00 <jdforrester> Hi ed. 09:06:00 <Daniel> someone should give a reminder on how to scribe 09:06:00 <edsu> hi :) 09:06:00 <Dave_McAllister> good day eveyone 09:07:00 <Daniel> hi ed 09:07:00 <Zakim> + +1.571.480.aagg 09:07:00 <Zakim> + +1.301.384.aahh 09:08:00 <bhyland> bhyland has joined #egov 09:08:00 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman 09:08:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here? 09:08:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, olyerickson, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, davidwood, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, 09:08:00 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has joined #egov 09:08:00 <Zakim> ... +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman 09:08:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar, trackbot, marek 09:08:00 <Zakim> - +1.240.515.aaaa 09:08:00 <bhyland> davdwood is me 09:09:00 <bhyland> davidwood is me 09:09:00 <Zakim> + +1.240.515.aaii 09:09:00 <Zakim> - +1.240.515.aaii #09:09:00 <edsu> sandro: you aren't on irc on the plane are you? 09:09:00 <jdforrester> You need to start with "zakim," 09:09:00 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me 09:09:00 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it 09:09:00 <jdforrester> zakim, aaff is Nig Greenaway 09:09:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaff is Nig Greenaway', jdforrester 09:09:00 <Rachel> Rachel has joined #egov 09:09:00 <Zakim> + +1.413.652.aajj 09:09:00 <Zakim> + +1.240.515.aakk 09:10:00 <Daniel> wow. this is a pretty big crowd 09:10:00 <gdick> aabb is gdick 09:11:00 <bdhandspicker> bdhandspicker has joined #egov 09:11:00 <gdick> zakim, aabb is gdick 09:11:00 <Zakim> +gdick; got it 09:12:00 <Owen> Owen has joined #egov 09:14:00 <bhyland> Topic: Overview by Jeanne 09:15:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Overview of priorities discussed on the first meeting (Aug 2011). Summary: 09:15:00 <bhyland> * Use cases & best practices 09:15:00 <bhyland> * Getting information out to citizens 09:15:00 <bhyland> * Intra-government dissemination 09:15:00 <bhyland> * Transparency 09:15:00 <bhyland> * Strategy 09:15:00 <bhyland> * Discussion around Open Data (being addressed in the Gov't Linked Data Working Group) 09:15:00 <bhyland> * Accessibility 09:15:00 <bhyland> q+ 09:15:00 <Zakim> - +1.703.672.aadd 09:16:00 <bhyland> Brand: Would like to talk to apps for the environment 09:16:00 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman 09:16:00 <Daniel> q+ Daniel Bennett 09:16:00 <jdforrester> zakim, q? 09:16:00 <Zakim> I see bhyland, Daniel, Bennett on the speaker queue 09:17:00 <Nig> Nig has joined #egov 09:17:00 <Rachel> + Rachel 09:17:00 <Daniel> also, this is a much larger group. we never needed it previously 09:18:00 <Zakim> + +1.703.672.aall 09:18:00 <olyerickson> + @bhyland; IGs are not WGs ;) 09:18:00 <HadleyBeeman> HadleyBeeman has joined #egov 09:19:00 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman 09:19:00 <bhyland> q- 09:19:00 <bhyland> q? 09:20:00 <bhyland> bhyland: Typically a W3C IG will discuss topics in support of an existing working group who has the responsibility of writing and getting approval for recommendations. 09:21:00 <edsu> bhyland: there's also space for some notes i imagine 09:21:00 <bhyland> Good for everyone to review the eGov IG, see http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/charter-2011 09:22:00 <bhyland> Rachel: The IG could help with bridging the gap between people and technology, make it relevant to people, explaining it in plain language. 09:22:00 <bhyland> Rachel: Would really like to continue that. 09:22:00 <Daniel> +1 Rachel - the Editorial Board should be prominent 09:22:00 <bhyland> +1 Rachel. 09:23:00 <olyerickson> I don't think it's "OGLD" but "GLD..." 09:23:00 <Daniel> too bad it isnt gov. open. linked data .... GOLD 09:23:00 <bhyland> Topic: Gov't Linked Data Working Group. 09:23:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter 09:24:00 <annew> +1 Daniel.. I was thinking the same thing... 09:24:00 <Daniel> hi anne 09:24:00 <annew> hey guys! 09:27:00 <Zakim> +TinaGheen 09:27:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: W3C GLD WG is about applying W3C recommendations and best practices to publishing Open Govt Linked Data 09:27:00 <Zakim> +??P0 09:27:00 <Zakim> -??P0 09:27:00 <Daniel> nice. feedback heaven 09:28:00 <HadleyBeeman> bhyland: we're looking specifically at 5-star linked data, not just CSV or Excel spreadsheets 09:28:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: focus is on Open, standards, TBL's "5-star" ratings 09:28:00 <Zakim> +??P0 09:28:00 <Zakim> -Jeanne 09:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.413.652.aajj 09:31:00 <Zakim> + +1.413.652.aamm 09:31:00 <olyerickson> olyerickson: It's "Tetherless World Constellation" (RPI) ;) 09:33:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: One deliverable is GLD Cookbook to help stakeholders "get from Point A to Point B" 09:35:00 <edsu> q+ 09:35:00 <olyerickson> I have nothing to add; very comprehensive, bhyland 09:35:00 <Daniel> q- 09:35:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Requested to have a liaison to the GLD WG. 09:36:00 <olyerickson> I volunteered last meetng 09:36:00 <Daniel> q- Bennett 09:36:00 <HadleyBeeman> I'm happy to help too 09:36:00 <Daniel> thanks for the great breakdown of the GLD Charter 09:37:00 <bhyland> John Erickson volunteered to be the liaison between the eGov IG and GLD WG. Thanks John. 09:38:00 <bhyland> q? 09:38:00 <Zakim> - +1.240.515.aakk 09:39:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: it *did* sound like you said that that GLD is open to non-members... 09:40:00 <bhyland> High level definition of Linked Data per Tim Berners-Lee, http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html 09:40:00 <edsu> olyerickson: thanks, i'm glad i wasn't the only one :) 09:41:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call? 09:41:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, +1.509.464.aacc, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, +1.703.672.aall, hadleybeeman, 09:41:00 <Zakim> ... TinaGheen, ??P0, +1.413.652.aamm 09:42:00 <jdforrester> bhyland, But doesn't help for SIP. :-) 09:42:00 <Rachel> aacc is Rachel 09:42:00 <Rachel> aacc is me 09:42:00 <jdforrester> Zakim, aacc is Rachel 09:42:00 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it 09:42:00 <Owen> 301-384 is me 09:42:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is talking? 09:43:00 <Rachel> thanks JDForrester! :) 09:43:00 <Zakim> jdforrester, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (7%), ??P8 (92%) 09:43:00 <jdforrester> Zakim, ??P8 is me 09:43:00 <Zakim> +jdforrester; got it 09:43:00 <edsu> jdforrester: thanks for asking that, that was implicit in my questions :) 09:43:00 <jdforrester> edsu, Sure. :-) 09:44:00 <Daniel> aaee is Daniel Bennett 09:44:00 <Zakim> - +1.703.672.aall 09:44:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here? 09:44:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, Rachel, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, jdforrester, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman, TinaGheen, ??P0, 09:44:00 <bdhandspicker> Zakim, aamm is bdhandspicker 09:44:00 <Zakim> ... +1.413.652.aamm 09:44:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Nig, Owen, bdhandspicker, Rachel, bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar, 09:44:00 <Zakim> ... trackbot, marek 09:44:00 <Zakim> +bdhandspicker; got it 09:46:00 <bhyland> Topic: Breadth of the eGov IG 09:46:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Would like to keep it broad, helping government to create transparency, help with interoperability, etc. 09:47:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Focus on a couple of things that we can accomplish i the next few months. 09:48:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Highlighted Community Directory 09:48:00 <Zakim> +??P3 09:49:00 <bhyland> Per the eGov IG charter, "In order to help members of this diverse community find and collaborate with each other, the group may lead or assist in the construction and maintenance of a community directory. 09:49:00 <bhyland> The http://www.w3.org/2011/gld has a similar deliverable, for its community, which overlaps this community. Ideally, the two projects can be coordinated and even interoperate, with the data being maintained separately but browsable together. 09:50:00 <Zakim> +??P6 09:50:00 <Owen> Community Directory objective available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/eGovIG2011-2013wStyle.xml#_266900e6-cdbb-11e0-95aa-922d7a64ea2a 09:50:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Published activities of people involved in gov't projects. Would include subject matter experts. 09:52:00 <gdick> +q 09:52:00 <tlr> tlr has joined #egov 09:52:00 <Daniel> I think that we can help bring about a lot of goals including accessibility, Linkish Data, metadata, authoritative data, human readability of data, etc, by looking at HTML5 publishing by govt. For example, lots of efforts are being wasted on apps and APIs instead of simple publishing techniques. 09:53:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary 09:53:00 <edsu> q+ 09:54:00 <Owen> When time permits I will convert the GLD WG's charter -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter -- to StratML format 09:54:00 <Daniel> thanks HB 09:54:00 <bhyland> Here are some questions the GLD WG put together around deployments, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Questionnaire 09:55:00 <MacTed> MacTed has joined #egov 09:55:00 <HadleyBeeman> q+ 09:57:00 <carlo> carlo has joined #egov 09:57:00 <olyerickson> +1 that GLD Community Directory should consider "application" resources (mashup developers/consultants) as well as conversion/publication resources 09:57:00 <olyerickson> GLD stakeholders need to understand how to *apply* GLD as well as how to create it... 09:57:00 <bhyland> Gannon: Recommended New Zealand format for deployments. 09:58:00 <gdick> http://wiki.open.org.nz/Open_Data_Mini_Case_Studies 09:59:00 <bhyland> Gannon: That is a great reference, thanks. 09:59:00 <edsu> gdick: nice :) 09:59:00 <gdick> q- 09:59:00 <bhyland> FWIW, we are producing a Linked Data application based on FLOSS, that captures deployments, company & vendor info. 09:59:00 <olyerickson> Could HadleyBeeman confirm that she is referring to the UK Patent Office? 10:00:00 <HadleyBeeman> Olyerickson- no, I was referring to a Cabinet Office initiative to deal with identity authentication online 10:01:00 <olyerickson> @HadleyBeeman thanks (I misheard)! 10:01:00 <HadleyBeeman> I've been wanting to connect them with the W3C's group working with identity in the browser… who are thinking about similar issues. 10:01:00 <HadleyBeeman> @olyerickson No problem :) 10:02:00 <bhyland> Open Government Data Camp, in Warsaw Poland, 20-21 October 2011, see http://ogdcamp.org/ 10:02:00 <Daniel> Interesting. I am working with patient identity with Kantara Initiative. 10:02:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.270.aann 10:02:00 <jdforrester> olyerickson, It's called the ID Assurance programme - see http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2011/08/10/a-question-of-trust/ 10:02:00 <bhyland> OGDC is organized by the Open Knowledge Foundation. 10:02:00 <HadleyBeeman> Daniel - can we talk offline about that? Or can you post a link? I'm intrigued 10:02:00 <Daniel> Looking more at OpenID, OpenID Connect, SAML 10:02:00 <jdforrester> olyerickson, disclaimer - colleagues of mine. :-) 10:03:00 <olyerickson> @jdforrester Thanks! 10:03:00 <Daniel> firstname.lastname@example.org 10:03:00 <HadleyBeeman> @jdforrester Thanks — I thought that might be at your fingertips faster than mine :) 10:03:00 <olyerickson> +1 to US and EU f2f opportunities... 10:03:00 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to TPAC and (hopefully) to Open Gov Data Camp 10:04:00 <bdhandspicker> Interesting, we are also working on "person identity" across multiple New York state agencies 10:04:00 <jdforrester> +1 to TPAC (though I might not be able to travel). 10:04:00 <Daniel> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/healthidassurance/Home 10:04:00 <HadleyBeeman> @bhandspicker @daniel @jdforrester Thanks guys— you're totally validating me bringing up the identity issue as an opportunity for collaboration. :) 10:06:00 <bhyland> Topic: eGov IG deliverables - Providing exemplars for licensing government content. 10:07:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Will prepare some examples of where we might be headed. 10:08:00 <Nig> Nig has left #egov 10:08:00 <bhyland> Hadley: At Linked Government (UK), providing examples of Open Data providing concrete examples of cost savings, ROIs. Looking to produce "common collateral" to justify projects. 10:09:00 <HadleyBeeman> Economic case studies for open data (please feel free to add to it): http://wiki.linkedgov.org/index.php/The_economic_impact_of_open_data 10:09:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Meeting with local and state government officials and they all need case studies to justify expenditure. 10:10:00 <bhyland> @Hadley - thanks, good link. 10:10:00 <olyerickson> Getting into the "business case"/"ROI" area seems out of the traditional W3C remit 10:10:00 <annew> +1 Hadley important idea 10:11:00 <HadleyBeeman> @olyerickson Full business case may not be, but common standards (developed from common use cases… which isn't far from "evidence") are rather familiar territory for the W3C. :) 10:11:00 <bhyland> @olyerickson - I think that the W3C is becoming more commercially sensitive to the extent publishing success stories & ROIs to get increased uptake. 10:11:00 <olyerickson> @HadleyBeeman agreed...and really it isn't too far from what TBL is doing as we speak ;) 10:12:00 <gdick> +1 10:12:00 <edsu> q+ 10:12:00 <gdick> brand 10:12:00 <HadleyBeeman> ack hadleybeeman 10:13:00 <bhyland> Brand: The importance data results should not be unemphasized. We have to take an additional step to explain the value added and the value of Open Data. 10:15:00 <bhyland> Rachel: Efforts to work with OMB and WH to improve delivery of gov't info and services online. Goes through Sept 30th. Looking for ways to improve government web sites. Will review web policies, update, to deliver services that people want from the gov't. 10:15:00 <Owen> Value of open data should be explicitly linked to .gov objectives, which should themselves be documented in open standard format 10:15:00 <bhyland> q? 10:15:00 <bhyland> q+ 10:17:00 <olyerickson> "A National Dialog on Improving Federal Websites" http://web-reform-dialogue.ideascale.com/ 10:17:00 <bhyland> EdSummers: It is important to remember this is an international eGov IG, don't focus on US. 10:17:00 <olyerickson> See also: ".gov Reform Effort: Improving Federal Websites" http://www.usa.gov/WebReform.shtml 10:18:00 <Rachel> National Dialogue to Improve Govt Websites http://web-reform-dialogue.ideascale.com/ 10:18:00 <bhyland> @Jeanne - can you put in a link to the LinkedIn group you referenced. Thanks. 10:19:00 <Nig> Nig has joined #egov 10:19:00 <bhyland> Announcement: Open Government Partnership being held in NYC today ... 10:19:00 <Daniel> what next steps for this group? action items? 10:20:00 <Daniel> we are 10 mins left 10:20:00 <olyerickson> RE Open Government Partnership, see http://www.opengovpartnership.org/ 10:20:00 <Daniel> have 10:21:00 <HadleyBeeman> eGovernment interest group on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1800648 10:23:00 <bhyland> Brand's submission: http://appsfortheenvironment.challenge.gov/submissions/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&terms=%22Build+EPA+apps+in+the+cloud%22 10:24:00 <olyerickson> RE Brand's "Build EPA Apps in the Cloud" stuff see: http://bit.ly/pzAzHn 10:24:00 <olyerickson> q+ 10:25:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who's talking? 10:25:00 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P3 (5%), bhyland (70%) 10:25:00 <annew> 5 minutes to go 10:25:00 <olyerickson> q- 10:26:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking? 10:26:00 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (92%), olyerickson (60%), ??P3 (4%), ??P6 (9%) 10:26:00 <Daniel> fyi- cool online book talking about new features of HTML5 like offline ability? http://www.20thingsilearned.com/en-US 10:26:00 <Daniel> please mute them 10:26:00 <olyerickson> I'd be happy to speak to issues w.r.t. organizing and running a topic-focuses Hackathon 10:27:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking? 10:27:00 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P6 (70%) 10:28:00 <bhyland> Jeanne - recap on today's call, and next steps for getting together at the TPAC and/or Open Gov't Data Conference. 10:28:00 <bhyland> Hadley - ACTION: Jeanne to send out a Doodle poll re: TPAC attendance. 10:29:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is on call? 10:29:00 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland. 10:30:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is here? 10:30:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, Rachel, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, jdforrester, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman, TinaGheen, ??P0, 10:30:00 <Zakim> ... bdhandspicker, ??P3, ??P6, +1.202.270.aann 10:30:00 <olyerickson> @bhyland thanks for attending and helping to run meeting ;) 10:30:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see Nig, MacTed, tlr, HadleyBeeman, Owen, bdhandspicker, Rachel, bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, 10:30:00 <Zakim> ... jdforrester, trackbot, marek 10:30:00 <jdforrester> Thank you everyone. 10:30:00 <bhyland> thanks Jeanne & everyone. 10:30:00 <Zakim> -TinaGheen 10:30:00 <Daniel> thanks 10:30:00 <olyerickson> thanks! 10:30:00 <Dave_McAllister> thanks all 10:30:00 <Zakim> - +44.786.783.aaff 10:30:00 <annew> thanks jeanne. 10:30:00 <Zakim> -jdforrester 10:30:00 <Zakim> -??P11 10:30:00 <annew> bye 10:30:00 <olyerickson> olyerickson has left #egov 10:30:00 <bdhandspicker> Thanks 10:30:00 <Zakim> -Rachel 10:30:00 <Zakim> -gdick 10:30:00 <bhyland> rrsagent, generate minutes 10:30:00 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman 10:30:00 <Zakim> -??P6 10:30:00 <gdick> bye 10:30:00 <Dave_McAllister> bye from paris 10:30:00 <Zakim> -??P3 10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.571.480.aagg 10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.202.270.aann 10:30:00 <bdhandspicker> bdhandspicker has left #egov 10:30:00 <gdick> gdick has left #egov 10:30:00 <Zakim> -olyerickson 10:30:00 <Zakim> -bhyland 10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.301.384.aahh 10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.202.684.aaee 10:31:00 <Zakim> -??P0 10:31:00 <Zakim> -bdhandspicker 10:31:00 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended 10:31:00 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, +1.202.684.aaee, +44.786.783.aaff, olyerickson, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, 10:31:00 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, +1.240.515.aaii, bhyland, +1.413.652.aajj, +1.240.515.aakk, gdick, +1.703.672.aall, TinaGheen, +1.413.652.aamm, Rachel, jdforrester, bdhandspicker, 10:31:00 <Zakim> ... +1.202.270.aann 10:31:00 <Rachel> -Rachel 10:31:00 <Rachel> Rachel has left #egov 10:31:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: doesn't look like the RRSAgent and trackbot was invited so we cannot automatically create minutes :-( 10:31:00 <bhyland> We use a little check list in the WG that helps avoid this (we've done it ourselves...) 10:32:00 <bhyland> Everyone has done it in fact. 10:32:00 <HadleyBeeman> @bhyland I have them archived (on my local machine) if you need a file… 10:32:00 <bhyland> Here is a sample an agenda that you can cut & paste from so you have the checklist: 10:33:00 <carlo> carlo has joined #egov 10:33:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.09.15 10:33:00 <bhyland> See the checklist in the above agenda. 10:42:00 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started 10:42:00 <Zakim> +??P2 10:42:00 <Zakim> -??P2 10:42:00 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended # SPECIAL MARKER FOR CHATSYNC. 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