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14:49:25 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
14:49:33 <sandro> rrsagent, make log public
Sandro Hawke: rrsagent, make log public ←
14:49:41 <sandro> zakim, ping
Sandro Hawke: zakim, ping ←
14:52:31 <sandro> zakim, this will be geov
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14:52:31 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, sandro ←
14:52:35 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
14:52:35 <Zakim> ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago
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14:53:39 <sandro> 'morning, Kate.
Sandro Hawke: 'morning, Kate. ←
14:54:00 <kate_geyer> Good Morning Sandro!
Kate Geyer: Good Morning Sandro! ←
14:54:05 <sandro> fadi, I did the rrsagent and zakim setup stuff already.
Sandro Hawke: fadi, I did the rrsagent and zakim setup stuff already. ←
14:54:19 <fadi> snadro, thanks
Fadi Maali: snadro, thanks ←
14:54:36 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has now started ←
14:54:43 <Zakim> + +1.617.619.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.619.aaaa ←
14:59:05 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
14:59:08 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:59:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.617.619.aaaa, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.617.619.aaaa, Sandro ←
14:59:29 <sandro> zakim, aaaa is kate_geyer
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaaa is kate_geyer ←
14:59:29 <Zakim> +kate_geyer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kate_geyer; got it ←
15:00:46 <Zakim> + +03539149aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +03539149aabb ←
15:01:03 <cygri> zakim, aabb is me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, aabb is me ←
15:01:03 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
15:01:07 <Zakim> + +1.202.690.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.690.aacc ←
15:01:09 <cygri> zakim, fadi is with me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, fadi is with me ←
15:01:09 <Zakim> +fadi; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadi; got it ←
15:02:02 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
15:02:24 <cygri> zakim, who is here?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is here? ←
15:02:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, +1.202.690.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, +1.202.690.aacc ←
15:02:25 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, fadi
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, fadi ←
15:02:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see fadi, george, jonphipps, cygri, kate_geyer, Zakim, RRSAgent, martin, Daniel_Bennett, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see fadi, george, jonphipps, cygri, kate_geyer, Zakim, RRSAgent, martin, Daniel_Bennett, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot ←
15:02:28 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
15:02:46 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:02:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, +1.202.690.aacc, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, +1.202.690.aacc, Sandro ←
15:02:48 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, fadi
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, fadi ←
15:03:05 <george> that's george sandro
George Thomas: that's george sandro ←
15:03:15 <sandro> zakim, aacc is george
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aacc is george ←
15:03:15 <Zakim> +george; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +george; got it ←
15:03:27 <george> ok - sorry for still being a zakim noob
George Thomas: ok - sorry for still being a zakim noob ←
15:04:36 <Zakim> + +1.607.785.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.607.785.aadd ←
15:05:16 <sandro> zakim, aadd is jonphipps
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aadd is jonphipps ←
15:05:16 <Zakim> +jonphipps; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jonphipps; got it ←
15:05:19 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
15:06:08 <sandro> zakim, P8 is Vassilios
Sandro Hawke: zakim, P8 is Vassilios ←
15:06:08 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'P8'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'P8' ←
15:06:13 <sandro> zakim, ??P8 is Vassilios
Sandro Hawke: zakim, ??P8 is Vassilios ←
15:06:13 <Zakim> +Vassilios; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vassilios; got it ←
15:06:46 <vassilios> Hi Vassilios Peristeras
Vassilios Peristeras: Hi Vassilios Peristeras ←
15:06:53 <vassilios> Currently muted
Vassilios Peristeras: Currently muted ←
15:07:35 <cygri> zakim, who is here?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is here? ←
15:07:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, george, Sandro, jonphipps (muted), Vassilios
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, george, Sandro, jonphipps (muted), Vassilios ←
15:07:37 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, fadi
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, fadi ←
15:07:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see vassilios, fadi, george, jonphipps, cygri, kate_geyer, Zakim, RRSAgent, martin, Daniel_Bennett, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see vassilios, fadi, george, jonphipps, cygri, kate_geyer, Zakim, RRSAgent, martin, Daniel_Bennett, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot ←
15:08:27 <fadi> chair:cygri
15:08:32 <fadi> scribe:fadi
(Scribe set to Fadi Maali)
15:08:36 <cygri> agenda: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-05-13
15:08:52 <fadi> topic: Admin
15:09:03 <fadi> cygri: scribe for next meeting?
Richard Cyganiak: scribe for next meeting? ←
15:09:45 <fadi> kate_geyer: I can do it
Kate Geyer: I can do it ←
15:09:50 <Zakim> +[CTIC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[CTIC] ←
15:10:01 <Zakim> + +1.202.449.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.449.aaee ←
15:10:08 <martin> zakim, CTI is martin
Martín Álvarez: zakim, CTI is martin ←
15:10:08 <Zakim> sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named 'CTI'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named 'CTI' ←
15:10:10 <sandro> zakim, ctic is temporarily martin
Sandro Hawke: zakim, ctic is temporarily martin ←
15:10:10 <Zakim> +martin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martin; got it ←
15:10:19 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
15:10:23 <martin> Zakim, [CT is martin
Martín Álvarez: Zakim, [CT is martin ←
15:10:23 <Zakim> sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '[CT'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '[CT' ←
15:10:31 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (37%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (37%) ←
15:10:51 <martin> Zakim, [CTIC] is martin
Martín Álvarez: Zakim, [CTIC] is martin ←
15:10:51 <Zakim> sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '[CTIC]'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '[CTIC]' ←
15:11:08 <Daniel_Bennett_> aaee is Daniel Bennet and on mute only
Daniel Bennett: aaee is Daniel Bennet and on mute only ←
15:11:09 <fadi> cygri: we have an issue tracker now
Richard Cyganiak: we have an issue tracker now ←
15:11:16 <Daniel_Bennett_> Bennett
Daniel Bennett: Bennett ←
15:11:27 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page ←
15:11:53 <fadi> sandro: the link to the issue tracker can be found on http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page
Sandro Hawke: the link to the issue tracker can be found on http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page ←
15:12:22 <fadi> sandro: the issue tracker is for all egov Ig so we should label dcat issues
Sandro Hawke: the issue tracker is for all egov Ig so we should label dcat issues ←
15:12:25 <sandro> action-95?
15:12:25 <trackbot> ACTION-95 -- Sandro Hawke to move IG pages to mediawiki -- due 2010-02-10 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-95 -- Sandro Hawke to move IG pages to mediawiki -- due 2010-02-10 -- OPEN ←
15:12:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/95
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/95 ←
15:13:09 <fadi> sandro: follow the syntax direction as in http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/95
Sandro Hawke: follow the syntax direction as in http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/95 ←
15:13:54 <fadi> sandro: include issue id when exchanging related emails (use syntax like "ISSUE-nnnn")
Sandro Hawke: include issue id when exchanging related emails (use syntax like "ISSUE-nnnn") ←
15:14:02 <fadi> ... on the mailing list
... on the mailing list ←
15:14:04 <sandro> sandro: try to use syntax like "ISSUE-nnnn" in your e-mail so it gets indexed.
Sandro Hawke: try to use syntax like "ISSUE-nnnn" in your e-mail so it gets indexed. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:14:21 <sandro> topic: Name and Namespace
15:14:39 <cygri> http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat#
Richard Cyganiak: http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat# ←
15:14:43 <fadi> cygri: what namespace to use for dcat?
Richard Cyganiak: what namespace to use for dcat? ←
15:15:02 <fadi> cygri: the current namespace is http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat#
Richard Cyganiak: the current namespace is http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat# ←
15:15:36 <fadi> ... would it be possible to put it under W3C
... would it be possible to put it under W3C ←
15:15:42 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat ←
15:15:47 <fadi> cygri: is that possible sandro?
Richard Cyganiak: is that possible sandro? ←
15:15:54 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2010/dcat
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2010/dcat ←
15:15:55 <fadi> sandro: yes
Sandro Hawke: yes ←
15:16:01 <fadi> ... we have three options
... we have three options ←
15:16:12 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2010/05/dcat
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2010/05/dcat ←
15:16:16 <fadi> ... http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat
... http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat ←
15:16:31 <fadi> ... or http://www.w3.org/2010/dcat
... or http://www.w3.org/2010/dcat ←
15:16:41 <fadi> ... or http://www.w3.org/2010/05/dcat
... or http://www.w3.org/2010/05/dcat ←
15:16:44 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/ns/data-catalog
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/ns/data-catalog ←
15:16:55 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/ns/gov-data-catalog
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/ns/gov-data-catalog ←
15:17:10 <fadi> cygri: would we be able to host files do redirect?
Richard Cyganiak: would we be able to host files do redirect? ←
15:17:43 <fadi> sandro: not sure if we can delegate, but basically you can ask me to do so
Sandro Hawke: not sure if we can delegate, but basically you can ask me to do so ←
15:18:29 <george> yes - w3 would be great
George Thomas: yes - w3 would be great ←
15:18:30 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:18:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, george, Sandro, jonphipps (muted), Vassilios, martin, +1.202.449.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kate_geyer, cygri, george, Sandro, jonphipps (muted), Vassilios, martin, +1.202.449.aaee ←
15:18:31 <fadi> cygri: opinions regarding the importance of namespace (deri.ie, w3c.org...)?
Richard Cyganiak: opinions regarding the importance of namespace (deri.ie, w3c.org...)? ←
15:18:32 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, fadi
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, fadi ←
15:18:51 <Daniel_Bennett_> aaee is Daniel Bennett
Daniel Bennett: aaee is Daniel Bennett ←
15:18:53 <jonphipps> I think it's important for legitimacy
Jon Phipps: I think it's important for legitimacy ←
15:18:59 <fadi> martin: prefer W3C namespace
Martín Álvarez: prefer W3C namespace ←
15:19:04 <jonphipps> +1 for w3 space
Jon Phipps: +1 for w3 space ←
15:20:04 <fadi> cygri: personally I prefer the ns one out of the three available options
Richard Cyganiak: personally I prefer the ns one out of the three available options ←
15:20:42 <sandro> PROPOSED: We'll use http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat as namespace for this vocabulary
PROPOSED: We'll use http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat as namespace for this vocabulary ←
15:21:03 <martin> +1 (shorter option)
Martín Álvarez: +1 (shorter option) ←
15:21:07 <cygri> +1
Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←
15:21:09 <fadi> +1
+1 ←
15:21:10 <jonphipps> +1
Jon Phipps: +1 ←
15:21:15 <vassilios> +1
15:21:15 <sandro> PROPOSED: We'll use http://www.w3.org/ns/(whatever) as namespace for this vocabulary
PROPOSED: We'll use http://www.w3.org/ns/(whatever) as namespace for this vocabulary ←
15:21:15 <kate_geyer> +1
Kate Geyer: +1 ←
15:21:24 <jonphipps> and I like the proposed ns
Jon Phipps: and I like the proposed ns ←
15:21:28 <fadi> cygri: we will discuss the dcat name next
Richard Cyganiak: we will discuss the dcat name next ←
15:21:33 <sandro> RESOLVED: We'll use http://www.w3.org/ns/(whatever) as namespace for this vocabulary
RESOLVED: We'll use http://www.w3.org/ns/(whatever) as namespace for this vocabulary ←
15:21:34 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:22:18 <fadi> cygri: I will change the namespace of the vocabulary we have at deri
Richard Cyganiak: I will change the namespace of the vocabulary we have at deri ←
15:22:25 <fadi> ... but keep it there for now
... but keep it there for now ←
15:23:26 <fadi> ... mainly for convenience while editing the schema
... mainly for convenience while editing the schema ←
15:23:45 <fadi> ... as we already have a handy editor in place at vocab.deri.ie
... as we already have a handy editor in place at vocab.deri.ie ←
15:24:15 <fadi> ... once things are more stable we will move it to the w3c.org
... once things are more stable we will move it to the w3c.org ←
15:24:37 <fadi> sandro: I can easily keep copying what's on deri site to the w3c
Sandro Hawke: I can easily keep copying what's on deri site to the w3c ←
15:24:46 <cygri> http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat
Richard Cyganiak: http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat ←
15:25:23 <fadi> cygri: I changed the namespace at http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat
Richard Cyganiak: I changed the namespace at http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat ←
15:25:31 <fadi> to the wec.org one
to the wec.org one ←
15:25:51 <cygri> http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat.rdf
Richard Cyganiak: http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat.rdf ←
15:25:59 <fadi> cygri: is the RDF version sufficient for now?
Richard Cyganiak: is the RDF version sufficient for now? ←
15:26:29 <cygri> dcat
Richard Cyganiak: dcat ←
15:26:33 <fadi> cygri: dcat name capitalization?
Richard Cyganiak: dcat name capitalization? ←
15:26:38 <cygri> "Data Catalog Vocabulary"
Richard Cyganiak: "Data Catalog Vocabulary" ←
15:26:44 <fadi> ... we used to use the lowercase version
... we used to use the lowercase version ←
15:26:55 <fadi> ... but no strong reason for that
... but no strong reason for that ←
15:27:00 <fadi> ... any opinions?
... any opinions? ←
15:27:04 <sandro> +1 dcat Data Catalog Vocabulary (but others might be fine too)
Sandro Hawke: +1 dcat Data Catalog Vocabulary (but others might be fine too) ←
15:27:14 <george> +1 sandro
George Thomas: +1 sandro ←
15:27:15 <martin> +1 dcat "Data Catalog Vocabulary"
Martín Álvarez: +1 dcat "Data Catalog Vocabulary" ←
15:27:24 <kate_geyer> +1 dcat "Data Catalog Vocabulary"
Kate Geyer: +1 dcat "Data Catalog Vocabulary" ←
15:27:27 <jonphipps> +1 sandro
Jon Phipps: +1 sandro ←
15:27:40 <fadi> cygri: dcat stands for "Data Catalog Vocabulary"
Richard Cyganiak: dcat stands for "Data Catalog Vocabulary" ←
15:27:53 <sandro> PROPOSED: This is The dcat Data Catalog Vocabulary
PROPOSED: This is The dcat Data Catalog Vocabulary ←
15:28:01 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:28:05 <george> +1
George Thomas: +1 ←
15:28:06 <cygri> +1!
Richard Cyganiak: +1! ←
15:28:09 <martin> +1
Martín Álvarez: +1 ←
15:28:10 <fadi> +1
+1 ←
15:28:11 <kate_geyer> +1
Kate Geyer: +1 ←
15:28:15 <jonphipps> +1
Jon Phipps: +1 ←
15:28:19 <sandro> RESOLVED: This is The dcat Data Catalog Vocabulary
RESOLVED: This is The dcat Data Catalog Vocabulary ←
15:28:38 <fadi> topic: usecases and requirements
15:28:56 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Use_Cases_and_Requirements
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Use_Cases_and_Requirements ←
15:29:26 <fadi> cygri: on the wiki we have currently about 4 usecases and 10 requirements
Richard Cyganiak: on the wiki we have currently about 4 usecases and 10 requirements ←
15:30:13 <fadi> ... catalog federation has got some interest
... catalog federation has got some interest ←
15:30:23 <fadi> ... same for distributed publishing
... same for distributed publishing ←
15:30:35 <fadi> ... more than the other two
... more than the other two ←
15:30:38 <sandro> q+
Sandro Hawke: q+ ←
15:30:59 <fadi> ... which of these scenarios are more important?
... which of these scenarios are more important? ←
15:31:51 <fadi> sandro: confused about the difference between federation and distributed publishing
Sandro Hawke: confused about the difference between federation and distributed publishing ←
15:32:02 <fadi> ... both are about aggregation
... both are about aggregation ←
15:32:27 <fadi> ... if data.gov was not official, then both cases will be the same
... if data.gov was not official, then both cases will be the same ←
15:33:03 <fadi> cygri: in federation the assumption is that the federated catalog is an aggregation of other catalogs
Richard Cyganiak: in federation the assumption is that the federated catalog is an aggregation of other catalogs ←
15:33:16 <fadi> ... while in UC4 the catalog is aggregation of datasets
... while in UC4 the catalog is aggregation of datasets ←
15:34:12 <fadi> cygri: setting up a data catalog requires considerable effort
Richard Cyganiak: setting up a data catalog requires considerable effort ←
15:34:33 <fadi> ... distributed publishing makes it possible to publish the data just by listing it online
... distributed publishing makes it possible to publish the data just by listing it online ←
15:34:46 <fadi> ... without going the whole way of having a catalog
... without going the whole way of having a catalog ←
15:35:00 <fadi> sandro: we need to understand the difference better
Sandro Hawke: we need to understand the difference better ←
15:35:22 <fadi> ... we might go on now and try to refine them later
... we might go on now and try to refine them later ←
15:35:52 <fadi> cygri: maybe renaming/expanding usecases can help clarifying difference
Richard Cyganiak: maybe renaming/expanding usecases can help clarifying difference ←
15:36:15 <fadi> sandro: not sure whether we need to change the names now
Sandro Hawke: not sure whether we need to change the names now ←
15:36:38 <fadi> cygri: we will come back to it later
Richard Cyganiak: we will come back to it later ←
15:37:40 <fadi> cygri: does anyone see that one of usecases is interested?
Richard Cyganiak: does anyone see that one of usecases is interested? ←
15:37:48 <fadi> kate_geyer: UC2
Kate Geyer: UC2 ←
15:38:33 <fadi> ... mapping our catalog to dcat seams an implementation of UC2
... mapping our catalog to dcat seams an implementation of UC2 ←
15:38:55 <george> UC 1-2-3-4 are all good
George Thomas: UC 1-2-3-4 are all good ←
15:39:03 <martin> I find interesting all of 4 UC, but specially UC1 and UC2
Martín Álvarez: I find interesting all of 4 UC, but specially UC1 and UC2 ←
15:39:04 <fadi> ... we might have a combination of federation and distributing oublishing
... we might have a combination of federation and distributing oublishing ←
15:40:06 <fadi> cygri: in reality it will always be some combination of aggregation of datasets from both catalogs and
Richard Cyganiak: in reality it will always be some combination of aggregation of datasets from both catalogs and ←
15:40:21 <fadi> ... other websites that publish individual datasets
... other websites that publish individual datasets ←
15:40:45 <george> i'm actually in another meeting :)
George Thomas: i'm actually in another meeting :) ←
15:41:02 <sandro> pondering the term "downstream reuse"
Sandro Hawke: pondering the term "downstream reuse" ←
15:41:05 <fadi> martin: especially UC1, UC2 are interesting for us
Martín Álvarez: especially UC1, UC2 are interesting for us ←
15:42:10 <fadi> cygri: UC3 looks the least interesting while UC4 need some more clarification
Richard Cyganiak: UC3 looks the least interesting while UC4 need some more clarification ←
15:42:26 <fadi> cygri: any input regarding requirements?
Richard Cyganiak: any input regarding requirements? ←
15:43:11 <fadi> ... any missing one?
... any missing one? ←
15:43:13 <sandro> UC4 == dataset maintainer publishes catalog record; UC1 == Enabling Catalogs without action from dataset maintainers
Sandro Hawke: UC4 == dataset maintainer publishes catalog record; UC1 == Enabling Catalogs without action from dataset maintainers ←
15:43:40 <martin> I would add "Standard queries on metadata" (UC1, UC2,UC3)
Martín Álvarez: I would add "Standard queries on metadata" (UC1, UC2,UC3) ←
15:43:55 <fadi> martin: I would add "having standard queries"
Martín Álvarez: I would add "having standard queries" ←
15:44:28 <fadi> martin: like SPARQL, XQuery...
Martín Álvarez: like SPARQL, XQuery... ←
15:44:59 <fadi> cygri: you mean "it should be possible to query the data using SPARQL, XQuery..." ?
Richard Cyganiak: you mean "it should be possible to query the data using SPARQL, XQuery..." ? ←
15:45:05 <fadi> martin: yes
Martín Álvarez: yes ←
15:45:18 <Daniel_Bennett_> then people could create a list of common queries for use and auditing purposes
Daniel Bennett: then people could create a list of common queries for use and auditing purposes ←
15:45:25 <martin> I will update the wiki
Martín Álvarez: I will update the wiki ←
15:45:49 <sandro> action: martin to add requirement about querying using standard mechanism
ACTION: martin to add requirement about querying using standard mechanism ←
15:45:49 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - martin
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - martin ←
15:46:18 <sandro> action: mlvarez to add requirement about querying using standard mechanism
ACTION: mlvarez to add requirement about querying using standard mechanism ←
15:46:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-106 - Add requirement about querying using standard mechanism [on Martín Álvarez - due 2010-05-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-106 - Add requirement about querying using standard mechanism [on Martín Álvarez - due 2010-05-20]. ←
15:46:52 <sandro> action: Martín to (just testing)
ACTION: Martín to (just testing) ←
15:46:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-107 - (just testing) [on Martín Álvarez - due 2010-05-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-107 - (just testing) [on Martín Álvarez - due 2010-05-20]. ←
15:47:01 <sandro> drop action-107
Sandro Hawke: drop ACTION-107 ←
15:47:07 <sandro> action-107 closed
Sandro Hawke: ACTION-107 closed ←
15:47:07 <trackbot> ACTION-107 (just testing) closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-107 (just testing) closed ←
15:47:12 <fadi> cygri: next steps. we need to hear more from other group members
Richard Cyganiak: next steps. we need to hear more from other group members ←
15:47:39 <fadi> ... regarding requirement I got some private responses.
... regarding requirement I got some private responses. ←
15:47:56 <fadi> ... how to proceed? contacting potential users of the schema?
... how to proceed? contacting potential users of the schema? ←
15:48:39 <fadi> .... to make sure that things that catalog publishers and consumers care about are covered
.... to make sure that things that catalog publishers and consumers care about are covered ←
15:49:11 <fadi> sandro: I think we can go on publishing working draft
Sandro Hawke: I think we can go on publishing working draft ←
15:49:23 <fadi> ... then ask for approval
... then ask for approval ←
15:50:53 <fadi> ... may be we send to the mailing list for more comments
... may be we send to the mailing list for more comments ←
15:51:05 <Daniel_Bennett_> ping?
Daniel Bennett: ping? ←
15:51:16 <sandro> hi Daniel_Bennett_
Sandro Hawke: hi Daniel_Bennett_ ←
15:51:27 <fadi> ... I suggest renumbering them, put UC1 next to UC4
... I suggest renumbering them, put UC1 next to UC4 ←
15:51:31 <fadi> ... as they are related
... as they are related ←
15:51:47 <Daniel_Bennett_> hi sandro. just checking to see if i was still connected to IRC.
Daniel Bennett: hi sandro. just checking to see if i was still connected to IRC. ←
15:51:55 <fadi> cygri: I will try to reorder usecases and clarify them, especially UC1, UC4
Richard Cyganiak: I will try to reorder usecases and clarify them, especially UC1, UC4 ←
15:51:58 <sandro> you are, Daniel_Bennett_ :)
Sandro Hawke: you are, Daniel_Bennett_ :) ←
15:52:51 <fadi> cygri: I think we give people more time to provide some feedback. If we need more feedback, I think we go for some other options
Richard Cyganiak: I think we give people more time to provide some feedback. If we need more feedback, I think we go for some other options ←
15:53:06 <fadi> ... maybe some of the group chairs can help
... maybe some of the group chairs can help ←
15:53:32 <fadi> sandro: it is fine to contact potential users directly
Sandro Hawke: it is fine to contact potential users directly ←
15:54:00 <fadi> cygri: I will email people from RPI and Sunlight Labs regarding usecases and requirements
Richard Cyganiak: I will email people from RPI and Sunlight Labs regarding usecases and requirements ←
15:54:14 <george> ckan?
George Thomas: ckan? ←
15:54:18 <fadi> sandro: we need also to contact people from CKAN
Sandro Hawke: we need also to contact people from CKAN ←
15:54:58 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference ←
15:55:09 <fadi> cygri: we have migrated some of the reference materials we have to
Richard Cyganiak: we have migrated some of the reference materials we have to ←
15:55:17 <fadi> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference
http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference ←
15:55:41 <fadi> ... it is currently a work-in-progress and basically it is an initail list
... it is currently a work-in-progress and basically it is an initail list ←
15:55:57 <fadi> cygri: of classes and properties
Richard Cyganiak: of classes and properties ←
15:56:20 <fadi> ... feel free to contribute to the wiki page
... feel free to contribute to the wiki page ←
15:57:02 <fadi> ... I hope we can start reviewing this in 2-3 weeks
... I hope we can start reviewing this in 2-3 weeks ←
15:57:14 <fadi> cygri: do we need to have a meeting next week?
Richard Cyganiak: do we need to have a meeting next week? ←
15:57:38 <fadi> ... I would suggest we have a short one particularly to discuss usecases and requirements
... I would suggest we have a short one particularly to discuss usecases and requirements ←
15:58:30 <fadi> sandro: what about the discussion regarding vocabulary specific details?
Sandro Hawke: what about the discussion regarding vocabulary specific details? ←
15:58:37 <fadi> ... do we have to conduct it now?
... do we have to conduct it now? ←
15:59:20 <fadi> cygri: I do not think we can get ready to start discussing them next meeting
Richard Cyganiak: I do not think we can get ready to start discussing them next meeting ←
15:59:54 <fadi> ... the initial vocabulary reference still needs a lot of work
... the initial vocabulary reference still needs a lot of work ←
16:00:12 <fadi> ... to fill in the missing details, then we can proceed to more specific details
... to fill in the missing details, then we can proceed to more specific details ←
16:00:59 <george> thanks cygri, sandro and fadi!
George Thomas: thanks cygri, sandro and fadi! ←
16:01:01 <fadi> cygri: we hopefully finish the usecases discussion next week then we proceed to the vocabulary design
Richard Cyganiak: we hopefully finish the usecases discussion next week then we proceed to the vocabulary design ←
16:01:03 <kate_geyer> thanks!
Kate Geyer: thanks! ←
16:01:10 <Zakim> -kate_geyer
Zakim IRC Bot: -kate_geyer ←
16:01:12 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
16:01:13 <vassilios> thanks and bye
Vassilios Peristeras: thanks and bye ←
16:01:17 <cygri> thanks fadi for scribing!
Richard Cyganiak: thanks fadi for scribing! ←
16:01:17 <Zakim> -george
Zakim IRC Bot: -george ←
16:01:17 <jonphipps> Thanks!
Jon Phipps: Thanks! ←
16:01:18 <Zakim> -martin
Zakim IRC Bot: -martin ←
16:01:23 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
16:01:24 <Zakim> -jonphipps
Zakim IRC Bot: -jonphipps ←
16:01:27 <Zakim> -Vassilios
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vassilios ←
16:01:32 <Zakim> - +1.202.449.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.449.aaee ←
16:01:33 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has ended ←
16:01:34 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.617.619.aaaa, Sandro, kate_geyer, +03539149aabb, cygri, +1.202.690.aacc, fadi, george, +1.607.785.aadd, jonphipps, Vassilios, +1.202.449.aaee, martin
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.617.619.aaaa, Sandro, kate_geyer, +03539149aabb, cygri, +1.202.690.aacc, fadi, george, +1.607.785.aadd, jonphipps, Vassilios, +1.202.449.aaee, martin ←
16:02:33 <fadi> sandro, how to proceed for generating the minutes?
sandro, how to proceed for generating the minutes? ←
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