Accept this agenda?

-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-agenda

Accepted?

Accept minutes from the previous meeting?

-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/08-minutes

Accepted.

Next meeting: 22 Oct 2014

No regrets heard.

Norm: No telcon on the 29th, we'll have f2f meetings on the 27th/28th at TPAC

Norm: I'll attempt to setup some sort of telepresence on both days at 11:00a CDT (09:00a PDT, 16:00GMT)

Face-to-face in Edinburgh in ... June?

Norm mutters about the value of another f2f.

Henry and Jim both offer to host.

Norm: I don't think we have to plan further now, but let's start imagining we might meet in Europe in the summer.

Review of open action items

Norm: With respect to A-252-01, I've made some progress. Commit msgs now appear on the comments list. It appears not to be possible to have issues go to the comments list directly.
... However, I have procmail.

<scribe> Continued. Norm will get to it asap.

The "no parameter ports" proposal

-> https://github.com/xproc/specification/issues/28

-> https://ndw.github.io/specification/langspec/no-param-ports/head/

Norm summarizes the changes from last week.

Henry: It's all fine. But I'd like to get some more housekeeping out of the way.
... The description of c:param and c:param-set are in conflict with this work.
... Similarly, the descriptions of c:param-set and c:param refer to "parameter inputs" which no longer exist.
... I think we ought to say something about the mapping of command line input parameters to a parameter map and a recommended way of doing that.

Norm: Yes, I think we should say that.

Vojtech: Isn't this covered by options?

Norm: Yes, of course, parameters are just options now.

Vojtech: How you pass the map is implementation defined.

Henry: We need to call out the fact that implementations may or may not support some types from the command line.

Some discussion of how processors might do this.

<jfuller> read it, Henry already covered off .. +1 for accepting pursuant to added story on binding

Vojtech: There's no story about magic binding yet, right?

Norm: Right.

Vojtech: What about backwards compatibility or upgrading.

Norm: We have an issue for that, suggest we revisit when we've made more progress on V2.

Norm proposes to adopt the no-param-ports draft as the status quo.

Any objections?

None heard. So resolved.

<jfuller> +1 for adoption with the mentioned proviso

Any other business?

<jfuller> could you add for next week review, https://github.com/xproc/specification/issues/38 as I published (and will be republishing well before our next meeting)

Yes, apologies, jfuller. An oversight on my part.

Adjourned.