Chair: Jon Gunderson
Date: Wednesday, March 9th
Time: 2:00 pm to 3:30 pm Eastern Standard Time, USA
Call-in: Longfellow Bridge (+1) (617) 252-1038
Chair: Jon Gunderson
Scribe: Ian Jacobs
Gregory J. Rosmaita
IJ All done except maybe number 7.
1.IJ: Split checkpoint 5.1 (28 January Draft) into read and UI write as stated in minutes
2.IJ: Add a cross-reference from 2.1 to 5.1 and say in 5.1 that this is a special case of 2.1
3.IJ: Add techniques to checkpoint 7.2 for synchronous multi-media presentation (space and time)
4.IJ: Ensure that techniques for checkpoint 1.5 talk about using status bar to display message
5.IJ: Incorporate proposal for checkpoint 1.5 from minutes
6.IJ: Update the document based on todays resolutions on 9 March Telecon
7.IJ: Add rationale to Checkpoint 1.5: if you're deaf blind you might need
this (Braille display).
Status: Not done.
8.CMN: Suggest some techniques related to the good bits of the DOM Level 2 event module (related to checkpoint on notification 5.4).
9.DB: Ask IE Team about publication of review of IE 5 and Pri 1 checkpoints
10.DP: Send NN profile info.
11.JA: Rewrite techniques for 3.3 (see minutes)
12.MR: Review techniques for topic 3.1 (Multi-media)
13.MR: Review techniques for Guideline 4 (Multi-media)
IJ: If there are no objections to going to PR, we'll have a face-to-face in New Jersey 10/11 April.
Action IJ: Put up meeting page for ftf.
EH: Comments on word "automatic" in 2.3. Is this necessary?
JG: My main concern is that people understand that the UA pauses itself.
HB: What about breaking sync?
CMN: There are cases when you can't do anything about it, e.g., real world events.
HB: What about auction events?
CMN: You can't slow down the real world. The requirement doesn't apply.
GR: Auction houses notify through color changes <frown> critical events.
a) Added collated text transcript
b) Moved note to checkpoint, added "author-supplied" synch cues.
MK: Sounds ok to me.
MQ: What about adding the word "indexing"?
HB: Indexing in the sense of marking time?
MQ: Marking time.
MK, EH: Ok.
IJ: We could harmonize wording with that of 9.2. Use "not explicitly done by the user."
DP, CMN: Yes,
GR: I think that the focus is to allow the user to configure whether or not the UA. "Allow the user to configure whether the user agent will automatically open a viewport, prompt, or window.
EH: That's a new requirement.
CMN: There are other configuration issues.
GR: It's one thing to control the size/position of something once created and another to talk about suppressing the creation.
IJ: As I recall, we agreed in Austin to put all of it in 4.16.
CMN: I agree with Gregory - there are two separate requirements.
GR: I propose to split the checkpoint:
a) Allow the user to configure the visual rendering.
b) Allow the user to configure alert mechanisms used on opening.
c) Respect user settings when opening windows.
IJ: Sounds like three:
a) Suppress spawning AND/OR prevent focus shifting.
b) Configure alert of spawning.
c) Style the user interface.
IJ: I don't think "respect user settings" get us much.
Action IJ: Add to definition of Configure that users should be able to save settings.
JG: How does all this relate to focus changes (4.15)?
IJ: Why are spawned windows an issue if there's no focus change and you're notified?
GR: Yes, 4.15 and 4.16 are related.
1) MOve note after 4.16 to 4.16 techniques with some clarification.
2) Link from 4.16 techniques to 4.15 techs.
3) Reword 4.16.
Action Ian: Send proposal to list to clarify.
Action IJ: Add a reference to the XHTML Recommendation.
Action IJ: For 5.1, add a technique to take into DOMs defined by other specifications (e.g., SVG). ------
Bug: Ian forgot to add "available"
- FIx bug
- Explain what a W3C Rec is in the techniques document.
Action IJ: change "portion" to "proportion"
Action Ian: Add "in" a profile.
CMN: Is minority objection propagated?
GR: In the definition of documentation, it doesn't talk about updates.
IJ: That's in 1.2.
GR: Things that are supplemental, but provided by the vendor.
Action IJ: Add something about with the product or available elsewhere.
IJ: Any objections to going to PR?