WAI Education & Outreach Meeting, December 4, 1998
 Last updated: December 10, 1998
 
Scribe: Chuck Letourneau
 
 Posted by: Judy Brewer, WAI EOWG Chair
 
 
 
 
 Attendees
 
 
 - 
 Judy Brewer
 
 
 - 
 Chuck Letourneau
 
 
 - 
 Geoff Freed
 
 
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 Charles McCathieNevile
 
 
 - 
 Alan Cantor (has to leave early)
 
 
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 Harvey Bingham
 
 
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 William Loughbourough
 
 
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 Daniel Dardailler
 
 
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 Kevin Carey
 
 
 
 
 Action Item Summary
 
 
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 All - send Judy your paper-mailing address so she can distribute quicktip
 cards.
 
 
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 JB - Judy to ask Joe Welinsky to show us something soon to determine if
 EO needs to do something additional?
 
 
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 DD - to check with Kitch Barnicle about status of Events Calendar
 
 
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 JB - to look at adding mention of "old people" and multiple disabilities
 to Call for Review.
 
 
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 JB - would like to collect all comments on the quicktips card and revisit
 at the end of the month.
 
 
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 JB - re EO meetings: not sure what is happening with the Europeans with
 this time slot. Will check back with them.
 
 
 
 
 
 AGENDA:
 
 
 1. Action item
 updates, outreach reports & opportunities
 
 
 Report on response to quicktips
 
 
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 JB - Thanks to everyone for feedback. We have a pilot printed version.
 Took some to Kyoto. Tim Berners-Lee liked them very much and was handing
 them out with glee. Other members seemed to like them. JB hasn't looked
 over all the feedback that has been coming in. The quicktips page doesn't
 have an order form or Daniel's good HTML version of the page. JB would
 like to send some out to EO members.
 
 
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 WL - comments that seeing guidelines on a small card says that "this is
 easy".
 
 
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 HB - distributed about 2-dozen and most comments were positive. But first
 thing we should see is the URL for where to get more information was one
 important comment. Second point was the only guideline that evinced any
 contention. And four people had to put on glasses to see it.
 
 
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 JB - remember to inform people who see it that it is a pilot project.
 
 
 
 
 Update on films discussion
 
 
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 JB - was to talk with Kevin Carey and others about restructuring the film
 ideas, and they had come to the same conclusion. JB hasn't had a chance
 to catch up on the e-mail about this topic yet.
 
 
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 KC - read Christine's reply and didn't think she had gotten the message.
 Changes will change shooting schedules and costs. Steve Tyler said to tell
 him how much more money and he would try to get it.
 
 
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 KC - will put out a note to ask people to get up to date and continue as
 planned.
 
 
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 JB - we will have one film that is more general in terms of disability
 and more closely coordinated with WAI.
 
 
 
 
 Update on US DOJ
 referencing guidelines
 
 
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 JB - checked with DOJ people who are referencing our guidelines and made
 sure including clear disclaimers on working draft status, consensus process,
 etc.
 
 
 
 
 Paper & panel submissions
 to WWW8
 
 
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 JB - Wendy and Judy collaborated on a paper submission that was submitted
 late Monday but was accepted. Discussion generally on Web standards to
 draw a wide range of participants but will Trojan horse the accessibility
 guidelines into the discussions. JB - received a waiver on submission for
 a panel discussion - on technical issues relating to access to mobile telephones
 and computing.
 
 
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 WL - mentioned PalmPilot and suggested we should try and partner with them.
 
 
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 JB - will check on whether PalmPilot group is W3C member
 
 
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 JB - Jutta has agreed to host WAI meetings.
 
 
 
 
 Update on demo Web sites
 
 
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 JB - met with Joe Welinsky, President of WinWriters, had agreed to develop
 8 demo web sites, but has now said that 2 or 3 might be more realistic.
 They want to do something more simple. Has nothing to show us yet. May
 see them in January and we will have to provide a lot of feedback in rapid
 fashion. We may have to find some other people to do some sites for us
 as well.
 
 
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 WL - concerned that this is a serious problem.
 
 
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 JB - shall Judy ask Joe Welinsky to show us something soon to determine
 if EO needs to do something?
 
 
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 YES.
 
 
 
 
 Events calendars?
 
 
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 JB - must check with Kitch Barnicle about status of Events Calendar.
 
 
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 WL - Daniel posted an interesting calendar.
 
 
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 JB - must get Kitch to bring the events calendar into the WAI space.
 
 
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 JB - has worked out the accounts for her.
 
 
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 DD - is the directory chosen yet?
 
 
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 JB - No.
 
 
 
 
 Other items.
 
 
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 HB - mentioned the XML conference in Spain and thinks we should be there.
 
 
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 JB - if it is important, WAI might be able to cover expenses to make sure
 we have coverage. Harvey should contact Judy after the conference call
 to discuss further.
 
 
 
 
 2. Review
 of deliverables listing, priorities, resources
 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/EO-Deliverables
 (somewhat updated)
 
 - re-organized (easier to follow??)
 
 
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 WL - Wow! Very impressed. A huge amount of work. Suggests a tighter set
 of links. Suggests dropping archival links for non current work (otherwise
 too confusing). Thinks it is a great working tool.
 
 
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 JB - it is supposed to be a planning tool as well as a reference tool.
 We will review a chunk of the deliverables document each time.
 
 
 
 
 - priorities need updating
 Review of Planning Information priorities:
 
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 Strategies: We should check back every three months or so to verify timelines
 and progress.
 
 
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 Translation and localization: is a high priority and we need to leverage
 our resources to forward this. Stability is needed as more translations
 are added.
 
 
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 Events Calendar/Coverage High priority - In progress
 
 
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 Baseline Data on Web Accessibility Regular - In progress - staring to happen
 through liaison with the Web Characterization Activity. Judy is the lead
 on this. Has to update this section. WL - is there a formal federal agency
 role in this? JB - more likely a non-governmental group. Will make this
 a high priority.
 
 
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 Impact Assessment Regular priority - In progress - how do we want to analyze,
 what questions must be asked? WL - has any consideration been given to
 getting a clipping service. JB - with Sally Khudari's departure, this has
 fallen apart and Judy must get it working again.
 
 
 
 
 3. Reference card feedback
 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/References/QuickTips
 
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 Already discussed previously, but Judy would like to collect all comments
 and revisit at the end of the month. Expect printed laminated cards to
 be ready by late January.
 
 
 
 
 4. Request for
 cross-disability review of guidelines
 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/X-Disability-Review.htm
 
- feedback before it goes out?
 
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 JB - Already got some feedback - and thanks.
 
 
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 WL - no mention of "old folks" in the review. And multiple disabilities.
 
 
 
 
 5. Other,
 upcoming priorities, schedule of 1999 meetings
 Next meeting December 11, 1998 - same time, same bridge (NOT JUDY's OFFICE
 NUMBER)
 
 Then December 18, 1998. And January 8, 15, 22, 29 same time.
 
 
JB - not sure what is happening with Europeans EOWG participants this
 time slot. Will check back with them.
 
 6. Update on Curriculum slides:
 
 
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 Comments: make sure disclaimers for which tools to use to use the curriculum
 are in the introduction and on speakers notes (as appropriate).
 
 
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 JB: can anybody (somebody) look at the slides with the new release of Opera?
 
 
 
CL: people can start reviewing the sample slides for content only at
 this point, although there will be a rash of new changes today and over
 the next while.