WL  still need to get to policy reviews.  JB  noted, but not
 ready yet.
 
JB  sent detailed summary of demonstration site to WinWriters of Seattle. 
 They are comfortable working with this and will let us know when there
 is something ready for review or if they have questions.
 
JB  Translation of pointer flyer  we now have a Finnish translation.
 
JB  Deliverables page  linking in from the minutes to the deliverables
 list wherever possible.
 
JB  trying to update the status of the deliverables.
 
HB  the presentation he did a week ago  full set of slides was available
 and would be happy to move them out of his area to someplace else. Both
 accessible and graphical version.
 
JB  could hang them off the EO page.
 
HB  will send a message to EO pointing to those slides.
 
JB - User agent guidelines go to Proposed Recommendation sometime in
 November or early December and Page Author to Proposed Recommendation probably
 in December.  Hopes to send out curriculum slides and reference card
 and hopefully the demonstration web site.
 
WL  should show the latest Page Author guideline at the EITAAC meeting.
 
JB  US Access Board to develop standards for electronic information
 technology including web accessibility.  She will have the latest
 copy of the PA guidelines in hand.
 
WL- thinks that WGBH should be involved in the captioning of the WAI/TIDE
 video
 
JB  does Geoff Freed know who in Europe is doing the captioning or
 description?
 
GF  will look into it and get back to Judy.
 
JB  will be recommending they publish in SMIL to the Web.
 
AC  might show people with disabilities working with the Web (i.e.
 designing pages)
 
JB  will request a followup version of the story line for second version.
 
AC  trying to incorporate as many suggestions as will fit or are practical. 
 Would like comments in the next day or two and will provide a third draft.
 
AC  do W3C have a graphic designer to pretty it up?
 
JB  Yes, we do.
 
DD  still has more comments  dislikes the use of duplicate pages
  the message it sends is not what the W3C wants.
 
JB  change guidelines to tips
 
MK  these are related to HTML only
 
AC  as tips, you cant encompass everything.
 
HB  should make it more general to include XML constructs as well
 (the concepts are the same, but actual markup is not transferable).
 
SS  would be nice to add something about consistent navigation.
 
JB  make your comments known to Alan via the list.
 
AC  to summarized: will change Guidelines to Tips, make html examples
 more correct, something about audio for people cant hear, move audio up
 on the list, add more reasons, add consistent in layout, something in
 page layout about navigation.
 
JB  should we send it to PA for a review?
 
CL  doesnt think it would be terribly productive.
 
JB  will think about it.
 
JB  re WWW8  already being addressed by various people.
 
AC - NECC 99 Spotlight on the Future: Technology for the New Millennium
 conflicts with RESNA
 
JB  get RESNA on schedule
 
AC  RESNA is at end of June in Long Beach CA
 
JB  Put in the WAI interest group update, put pointers to Jims message
 and Kitchs list.
 
There was more discussion about WWW8.
 
SS  would like to try coming up with an interesting topic for a panel
 
AC  why not get a guest speaker from an organization which has made
 an effort to work towards accessibility.
 
JB  could work
 
JB  can recommend one or more plennary sessions?  Anybody who
 is high profile?
 
CL  perhaps a CIO in the Government of Canada, but the timing might
 not be right.
 
HB  what about some EITAAC members?
 
JB  might be appropriate.  Will look into it.
 
SS  what about Jacob Neilsen ?
 
JB  will go to Jutta with these suggestions.
 
WL  the web site must conform to access guidelines.
 
JB  Jutta is in charge of the web site so it should be quite accessible. 
 More concerned about the physical access to the site.  Sending Jutta
 an accessibility planning guide.
 
AC  may be able to help Jutta by doing an accessibility audit of the
 WWW8 site.
 
HB  has drill-down stuff which is an improvement over his.
 
AC  thinks these are a great tool.
 
CL  there was considerable discussion about the making of slides and
 using tools and the problems of a layered presentation.
 
JB  Encourages us to use Slidemaker to get a feel for what the slides
 will look like  ensure they are usable on the web, zipped presentation,
 displayed on an LCD, and overhead projection.
 
SS or MK - What about a HELP file?
 
JB  WinWriters are expert at that.
 
- agenda topics for next meetings?
 
JB - Need to get back to policy stuff.
 
JB  next meeting same time next week [error -- next meeting is in
 two weeks, Oct 22]