MINUTES of EOWG call June 11, 1998
Posted by: Judy Brewer, EOWG Chair
Last updated: September 30, 1998
Next Phone Meeting:
Will be Thursday June 18, same time 10:30 to 12:00 noon US EDT.
Phone # info to follow.
NOTE: June 18 meeting cancelled; next meeting Thursday July 2, 10:30
a.m. to 12:00 noon US EDT.
Present:
Jb: Judy Brewer - W3C - WAI
Ss: Sheela Sethuraman - Cast
Db: Dick Banks - EASI
Mn: Masafumi Nakane - W3C WAI
Cl: Chuck Letourneau - Starling Access Services
Wl: William Loughborough - Smith-Kettlewell
Dd: Daniel Dardailler - W3C WAI
Hb: Harvey Bingham - YRIF
Kb: Kynn Bartlett - HTML Writer's Guild
Pb: Peter Bosher - BCAB
St: Steve Tyler - RNIB
Mp: Mike Paciello - YRIF
Ja: Jim Allen - IBM
Gf: Geoff Freed - WGBH/ NCAM
Review Action Items
Contacts
Jb: Reminder to send Judy links if you want them from the membership list.
Still asking for some additional contacts who do EO-like things.
Ss: still thinking about contacts in Asia
Db: suggested a name from Asia - will send the contact info to Judy
today.
Jb: did contact Jaap from EU, but he may not participate.
St: did send something to Judy, but will resend.
WAI-TIDE/RNIB EO workpackages
Pb: the package Steve is sending has important info on videos and presentation.
Sample implementations
Jb: code sample development - has talked to Harvey. Three areas most
helpful: tables, interactive forms, and maybe stylesheets. Chris
Lilly and Hakon Lie's stuff may be pretty good. If Harvey focuses
on tables, is anyone willing to take on interactive forms?
Jb: described the project as good examples or code samples.
Wl: talk to Dave Ragget - best on forms.
Reference card
Jb: Dick was to draft up a quick reference card.
Db: time constraints, but he guarantees will be done and up by Monday.
Jb: - the InterNIC 15-minute series -
Interactive CD/Web site
Possibility of getting funding for a reference CD, but she is leaning towards
an interactive Web site. Exchanging e-mails with Sunrise people in
Australia who have a site/cd and has asked them what kind of content it
contained.
More on group participation
Hb: not able to get someone from SoftQuad to join the EO.
Mp: talked to SoftQuad last evening and thinks they may now be interested.
Jb: would be very happy to have SoftQuad representation.
Wl: what about Cynthia Waddell
Jb: has been trying to contact her.
Events calendar
Jb: Kitch Barnicle has agreed to coordinate the "event's calendar" information
Review timeline & deliverables
Jb: had started a planning list with about 30 different deliverables
Jb: compiled a list of deliverables that appeared anywhere and has
tried to identify owners: list is partial right now. She and Daniel have
started going through the list to see which need to be coordinated with
WAI/TIDE activities. List is not yet available to the WG.
ACTION ITEM: Will put it out by this weekend.
Discussion on
hard copy promotional material
Jb: What are the most essential hard copy things we need to have available?
One was the Quick Reference Card. Basic promotional brochure.
Cl: a general brochure with paragraphs about the W3C, the WAI, the
WG's, and pointers to WAI resources.
St: seconds Chuck's comment. A general overarching look at the
project for general audiences.
Ss: include a few "whys" about why access is important.
Hb: add up front that "these techniques are useful for hands-free/eyes
free" i.e universal access.
Mn: would like to say that Japan is further behind than North America
and Europe.
Jb: we could add something saying that some countries are not at the
same level and provide references. Should look professional but not
cluttered.
Cl:: would require a Canadian French version, but could probably get
it translated over here.
Dd: identifying languages: through EC commisioner to see what language
priorities - probably 5 languages in priority, and up to 12 for less critical.
Ss: on what basis will we make translation decisions? For instance,
the Indian subcontinent would be a good target if Hindi is available.
Jb: probably looking at current involvement in WAI for priorities,
but volunteers for translation are wildly appreciated.
Ss: might be able to get a Hindi translation.
Jb: Dutch translation also been volunteered.
Slide sets - curriculum set
Jb: what kinds of things should we have.
Mp: would best like to see a set that would allow people to mix
and match for the needs of a particular workshop.
Db: could we beg borrow or steal for EO to ask people who are doing
it?
Jb: would like some uniformity for what we are presenting under.
Some modules might be:
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WAI Overview
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In depth walk through of PA guidelines
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In depth walk through of authoring tools
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Walk through of HTML 4.0 accessibility
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Walk through of CSS2 accessibility
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User agent design
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Other access initiatives and how WAI ties in to them
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User usability and involvment (what the end user can do to improve access)
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Business Case
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Accessibility & Universal Design
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Other Access inititives -- in other parts of the world -- initiatives,
related efforts
MP: heavier set related to PAG's, but also need for sysadmins, WebMasters,
etc., need more on Java, frames, etc., rather than easier things to do;
but sometimes get other groups that are heterogeneous;
Jb: who else is doing presentations besides those on call: DOIT,
Alan Cantor, Geoff Freed, Gregg Vanderheiden, Cynthia Waddell, Jutta Treviranus.
Wl: will the master slide set preclude someone like Chuck or
Mike from using their own slides or putting their own spin on things.
Mp: too early to say - will depend on a lot of factors - since he has
to tailor his presentations carefully to the individual audience.
Jb - isn't comfortable asking people to "committ" to using the WAI
set, and these would be a resource, but not a requirement. Wants
to make sure sets are high-quality, mix & match modular
Jb: would like to talk to a few folks offline about writing different
modules for this. Who would like to help?
Sheela, Peter, Chuck, Masafumi, Geoff, Jim, Mike, William (collecting),
Harvey, Jutta (suggested)
ACTION ITEM: William would like to help compile existing slides.
ACTION ITEM: Cl: will provide a URL of his current slide set at the
next meeting.
Ja: provide speaker notes if possible.
Jb: Powerpoint is not very accessible
ACTION ITEM: Mn: knows of a powerpoint to html converter and will provide
information.
ST: translation agencies, France, Germany, Japan, Spain, Italy
ACTION ITEM: DD: will talk with EC Officer, for priority translation
requirements
Gf: uses a lot of pre-whacked sites in preparation examples for presentations
Updates on interactive
"pre-whacked" web site
Jb: describe a number of possible sections. Those most interested
Sheela, Geoff, Steve, Helen (suggested), Sunrise (suggested)
Ja: Jim will work with Kitch
St: as part of the EC and RNIB funded work - working with Helen
Petrie to develop a web site of resources with lots of materials.
It would make sense to have a joint effort.
Jb - the Sunrise people of Australia should brought in.
Next Meeting
Would like to think about meeting weekly
Next meeting: June 18, 1998, 10:30 AM EDT
Agenda Items:
Deliverables List
Quick Reference Card (Dick)
Business Case (tentative)
Judy Brewer
July 1, 1998